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post Apr 18 2008, 05:25 PM, updated 18y ago

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STOP!
Please remake your votes here: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=97&t=677793&st=0

Ok gamers.Hey wait..what about Nintendo Wii?
Hmmm for Nintendo Wii I won't compare it because it is a different type of console and of course gamers will say things like graphics,casual games and this console is a fair friendly console so it doesn't stick to it.
Yes.Results says Nintendo Wii selling the most.Yeap congrats Nintendo! rclxms.gif
This topic is the comparison between xbox360 and ps3
Ohh!! So tough to decide!! shakehead.gif

I got this video from youtube.
This guy is judging the xbox360 and ps3 himself.
Take a look at this video and see whether is there anything you want to comment abt it before we move on.




LETS see what gamers say

watch the video and give comments here and wait till the results comes.

Continued

Ok the videos that this guy posted some things are right and not right.
Why?
I mean look....he didn't even mention the games right.
Xbox360 has FAR more games compared to ps3.
We are to enjoy and play more games as we can to satisfy ourselves.
Also,you can burn hdvd games for modded,so this is the part where consumers are possesed at.


xbox360 exclusive game that are releases and unreleased yet. *TO DATE*

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PS3
exclusive games that are releases and unreleased yet. *TO DATE*

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So in terms of exclusive games releases I will go for Xbox360.

ps3 0 - xbox360 1

As I said something aren't right.
The xbox360 graphics a.k.a xenon.
The guys posted in the video he didn't know what's the capacity of xenos and he gives 1 score each.LOL?
I tell you guys.Xenon has a higher capacity compared to PS3'S graphics.
Why?
This battle will be very similar to last generation.

32-bit FP madd
PS2 CPU - 6.0 GFLOPS
Xbox CPU - 2.932 GFLOPS

PS3 Cell - 204.8 GFLOPS
Xbox CPU - 115.2 GFLOPS

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PS3
Not exact, but similar. You even program them the same way - Cell being a major pain to program and very flexible, XCPU being a piece of cake but less flexible. The difference lies in the video cards. PS3 and X360 will have similar video cards - Xbox's video philosophy is implemented on the PS3 (large memory, little cache, seperate pixel/vertex shaders). So RSX can provide a lot of power - rendering a game like GoW at 1080p. When combined with Cell, lets just say big things will happen. It could be a while before anyone starts using Cell for graphics though.

But even then widespread use is unlikely (like Emotion Engine utilization for PS2). So Cell is a good word to describe the chip, since developers feel as if they are in a 'cell' when first trying to program it, constrained by local memory management, no brand prediction on the SPEs, assembler programming, SPE kernel management for seven processors, etc. Loop unrolling is practially mandatory (128 vector registers for each SPE) as well as compiler modicactions. Of course things won't as bad as the Emotion Engine, where developers had no cache, tools, documentation, examples, tutorials, or how-to guides on how to use EE, making them feel very angry EMOTIONS while trying to develop for it.

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Xbox360
Xenon has the juice to provide developers full-optimization of its CPU with quick turnaround time. Microsoft being the benevolent software company that they are, have given Xenon the best development environment yet seen on a console (as said by John Carmack). The dot-product instruction makes running 3D code easier then before, along with copious cache and branch prediction.

But Microsoft forgot about programming ease when they decided to include TWO threads per each of the three cores of the CPU. Parallezing your code among three processors caused lots of Emotion on PS2, and will undoubtedly cause similar Emotions on X360. At least X360 has plenty of cache and good tools.

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Terms of graphics.Xbox360 wins

ps3 0 - xbox360 2

Continued

Ok now lets move on to physical dimensions and design cool2.gif
The guys posted in this video did not mention the physicial dimension as is not so important to him I guess.
He didn't even post completely the editions/designs/models that the xbox360 released same goes to Ps3.
So is quite unfair at that case.
But in this case things are yet to be resulted correctly and true.

The Xbоx360 weights 7.7 pounds (3.5 kg) and is:

309 mm wide x 83 mm high x 258 mm deep

12.15 in wide x 3.27 in high x 10.15 in deep

The PS3 weights 11 pounds(5kg)

sorry gamers,I don't have the measurements for PS3 yet.
but 11 pounds is quite heavy though.

So PS3 lacks in physical dimensions.As you can see.

PS3 are available in piano black(original colour),ceramic white and satin silver not to mention the models of 40gb and 80gb
(20gb and 60gb stop production f.y.i)
Most gamers likes piano black in colour not to mention ceramic white and satin silver.
But in editions and designs are only ONE with DIFFERENT colours RESPECTIVELY.

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Xbox360 has a halo3 edition(spartan green and gold finsih),elite edition(black) and the premium(original colour) not to mention 20gb and 120gb models.
But in editions and designs are only THREE with ONE colour RESPECTIVELY.
In future there maybe more editions and designs.
[FACTS]
MS can release halo3 edition in xbox360 why not Gears of Wars and Assasin Creed?
So is possible.

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In physical dimensions are not a problem for PS3 although Xbox360 is lighter than ps3.
But in designs and editions is important for us gamers.
It gives us choices of varieties of designs and editions for us to choose.
ps3:0 xbox360:3

Should I give a chance to Sony for future improvements?

ps3:1 xbox360:3

What about the controllers?

XBox360 Controller

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Features

2.4GHz wireless technology with 30-foot range
Use up to four Wireless Controllers simultaneously with one console
Integrated headset port for Xbox Live play
Adjustable vibration feedback for longer battery life
New left and right shoulder buttons are designed for ease of use
Use the Xbox 360 Guide button to keep track of your friends, access your games and media, or power on and off your Xbox 360 console

Description

High-performance wireless gaming is here! Using optimized technology, the Xbox 360 Wireless Controller lets you enjoy a 30-foot range and up to 40 hours of life on the two included AA batteries-and when they run low, you're given ample warning so you can connect a Play & Charge Kit for uninterrupted play. Plug the Xbox 360 Headset into the controller for full duplex (both directions at once) voice communication: a wireless first. With quick access to Xbox 360 features including DVDs, music, pictures, and more, along with the ability to support four wireless controllers simultaneously, gamers can experience wireless freedom, precision, high quality, and performance for endless gameplay.

Note: One of the most significant changes in the Xbox 360 Controller compared to the original Xbox controller is the addition of the left and right bumpers. Unlike the original Xbox controller, the Xbox 360 Controller does not have a black button or a white button. The black and white buttons were replaced by the left and right bumpers. The left and right bumpers are located on the top of the controller above the triggers.

PS3 DualShock 3 Controller

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Features

Pressure sensors that rumble with each action making every impact feel like you're right in the game
SIXAXIS(tm) highly sensitive motion control system senses your every move
Features Bluetooth technology for wireless game play; the PLAYSTATION(R)3 system can support up to seven wireless controllers at one time
Can be charged at any time through the PLAYSTATION(R)3 system using the controller's USB cable

Description

The DUALSHOCK(R)3 wireless controller for the PLAYSTATION(R)3 system provides the most intuitive game play experience with pressure sensors in each action button and the inclusion of the highly sensitive SIXAXIS(tm) motion sensing technology. Each hit, crash and explosion is more realistic when the user feels the rumble right in the palm of their hand. It can even detect natural movements for real-time and high precision interactive play, acting as a natural extension of the user's body.

DUALSHOCK 3 utilizes Bluetooth technology for wireless game play and the controller's USB cable to seamlessly and automatically charge the controller through the PLAYSTATION(R)3 at anytime. By integrating all of these features into the popular PlayStation controller design, the DUALSHOCK 3 will further enhance the advanced game play experience only available on the PLAYSTATION(R)3 system.

So which one is better?
Honestly I am getting use to PS buttons and it is comfortable.
Before xbox released.I had a ps2 long time ago.So I was and still a playstation owner.It does not need as many buttons to controll compared to the xbox360.
In looks,Xbox360 has the ugliest childish controller. Look at the buttons it comes with colourful colours.Man that sucks.But it looks better in halo3 edition.From the back view it looks awful with the battery pack on it.
Dualshock 3 in all colours looks very neat and tidy looking.
From the back view it looks good too.
Also,Dualshock 3 is lighter than the xbox360 controller
I won't compare how many controllers that you can use in 1 console because I do no need that many so were you.
Also xbox360 controller with 30foot range I would say is further than enough.You don't need a 70foot range unless you're playing on a screen projector.
The guy posted in the video says xbox360 does not have play and charge kit and no vibrations.Lol?
Both xbox360 and ps3 has a play and charge kit and have an adjustable vibration system.
So overall I would say PS3 Dualshock 3 is the best.

PS3 :2 Xbox360 :3

AC Power Cable/Brick??

Xbox360's power brick
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PS3's power cable

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Xbox360's power brick is obvious that it is heavy and big.
PS3's power cable is lighter and won't cause any overheat problems.

ps3
:3 xbox360:3 A DRAW! shocking.gif


I have exams next month.Wish me luck!
TO BE CONTINUED FOR FURTHER RESULTS!


This post has been edited by ExTgAmer: Apr 21 2008, 10:07 PM
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post Apr 19 2008, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(5zal06 @ Apr 18 2008, 07:08 PM)
ya i think ps3 is better

but for now..u better buy xbox360 first..because the games is a lot cheaper than the ps3 game

extgamer..

what fan do u use??for your xbox360..sorry off topic..im so curious
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is just intercooler that gamers solution setted up for me =). Don't have to bother the intercooler brand is almost the same. Is just watt and multiple fan difference.
I use table fan as an external.
My top casing is opened.
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post Apr 19 2008, 10:51 AM

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TO BE CONTINUED.


Added on April 19, 2008, 10:53 am
QUOTE(lamusiqa @ Apr 19 2008, 02:48 AM)
Hahaha Some of the games in the 360 exclusive games list is not even exclusive.

Seriously, the whole comparison is seriously outdated. PS3 versions of multiplatform games were bad because the tools wasnt matured yet. Now, we're already in the 2nd gen of PS3 games and there are already PS3 games that looks better than 360's current best graphics.

To us Asians, the factors of buying a console comes down to our wallet. Do you want to play pirated games or not? If not, then I think PS3 is a more viable and reasonable system to invest in. You get free online multiplayer, the most powerful gaming console which also doubles as a Blu-ray player, wireless controller with built-in battery and it's fairly affordable now. Last I checked 40GB PS3 goes for RM1300 nowadays.

But it's always true when they say you're losing out a lot if you stick to just one console.
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Yes these are exclusives.
Just telling..okay..I am not sticking to one console.
In looks I would say PS3.
Wait for further results ya biggrin.gif

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post Apr 19 2008, 12:32 PM

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currently

ps3:1 xbox360:3

I will post out 3ROD and which will give a penalty score.

So no worries man.

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post Apr 19 2008, 03:09 PM

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hehe bring up the post =D
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post Apr 19 2008, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(slickz @ Apr 19 2008, 05:02 PM)
what a flawed poll. So PS3 has no exclusive games ? HA HA HA
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if that's what you think.
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post Apr 19 2008, 08:15 PM

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if it's a fact means he what he say is true?
no exclusive games?
Lol..I didn't even say there is no exclusive games.
What I meant at the poll is.
xbox360 has more exclusive games.
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post Apr 19 2008, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Apr 19 2008, 09:18 PM)
your poll shows otherwise wink.gif
you should've thought it over properly before posting unnecessarily  doh.gif
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post Apr 20 2008, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Apr 20 2008, 02:35 AM)
dude,seriously...just close this thread la..
sooner or later some stupid "event" will take place,and a war erupts doh.gif

no point having good intentions here..fanboys will still take center stage rclxub.gif
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Why do I need to close this thread.
Nah..is okay biggrin.gif
Thats the purpose of this thread man.
Cheers biggrin.gif
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post Apr 20 2008, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(G-Shonen @ Apr 20 2008, 12:30 PM)
PS3

Pros:
Better console
HDD standard

Cons:
Sucky controller (IMO)

360:

Pros:
Best controller

Cons:
Die-box
HDD not standard
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errmmm I like ps3 controllers..is easy user friendly =D
thats why i give a score to ps3 for controllers.


Added on April 20, 2008, 1:55 pm
QUOTE(nonamekid @ Apr 20 2008, 12:26 PM)
depends on ur taste lar..both oso have their own exclusive game. if u have the money,buy both. When u enter to the game..is all bout the gaming experience, not looking so deeply into the technology. But my vote will goes for PS3 coz due to the RROD problem for Xbox360. Both have their advantage. Purpose of creating this thread is to enjoy both fans argueing for their favourite consoles?  sweat.gif
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yeap pls continue supporting this thread bro smile.gif


Added on April 20, 2008, 1:56 pm
QUOTE(nakata101 @ Apr 20 2008, 11:45 AM)
LOL, dun close it, i like this thread.....For my personal,for PS3, i only interest it when Sony decide release shadow of the colossus 2 on PS3, i m already bore with the game like MGS and FF, i only finish MGS and FF7 at my PS, all series of MGS and FF at PS2, i never finish it, all play at early stage, then i stop it, those game i play make me feel bore.... no mood to continue it. At PS2, i only found God of War n shadow of the colossus give me mood to finish the game, i want another game like shadow of the colossus. About god of War??? I think i will stop play it, bcoz in the market got too many this kind of game came out already, example like Conan, but i bought PS2 just bcoz of Winning Eleven.  tongue.gif
For XBox360, Gear of war really give me the first step to grab it, second Dead Rising, Dead or Alive Xtreme 2(Sometime my eyes need fresh) and Ninja Gaiden which i waiting for so long. Ya, someone like to said some good game like GOW will release on pc, but is up to u if u want to wait for a year or more than that to play this game. 3rod? This one must depend how deep u really like the game of xbox360, anyway my xbox360 still can work perfectly after nearly 2 years, also got hit by 2rod many time ad, but it still work, maybe my luck r better. So i must said this 2 console have nothing to compare when u got 1 of them, bcoz is u decide to use ur money pay for it, not money decide u buy it, so dun jealous on other console owner. Just my personal 2cent....  whistling.gif
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post Apr 20 2008, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(enCORe @ Apr 20 2008, 02:03 PM)
Althought this kinda flamewar give benefits for those who planning to choose the right console,

Until now I still could not decide to choose among 2, the problem is everywhere like ps3 with lense issue, xbox with 3ROD. This keeping me delay & confuse that possibly end with dekstop gaming, (and suddenly become offtopic biggrin.gif )

till then keep fighting (lol) , maybe I reconsidering going to console gaming,
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ps3 lens problems doesn't occur frequently bro.
is just unlucky that you get the console.
once fix it won't be a problem anymore.
unlike the xbox360 3rod.

in one of the game shops

19 xbox360 consoles are under repairment due to 3rod problem
1 ps3 are under repairment due to lens prob

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post Apr 20 2008, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(MSA @ Apr 20 2008, 04:28 PM)
I find xbox controllers are awesome for FPS. I even use my xbox controller to play Crysis / Bioshock on PC. I've got kinda used to it . I have "YET" to try a ps3. But i will be getting one by the end of this month. I wanna watch blu ray ..

Btw does any1 here know how big a PS3 adapter is comparing to the monstrous XBOX power brick
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I already edited my thread.
You can check out the adapter.
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post Apr 20 2008, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(G-Shonen @ Apr 20 2008, 08:13 PM)
To me 360 controller is the best this gen. It comfortable, triggers feel just right, analog placement didn't hurt my thumb plus the inclusion of the "R1 (RB)" and "L1(LB)" button.

Now I haven't touched a sixaxis or dual shock 3 but it looks kinda the same as last gen (with triggers). I had some bad times with the DS 2 (slipped thumbs, awkward analog placement), so I'm basing my thoughts on this.

It's not just FPS, most of next gen games utilizes the use of two analog sticks (one for movement, the other for camera for example), so IMO 360 controller is the best for this.

PS controllers have great d-pads but those are for last gen 2D fighter games, those games are near extinct. In short, if I ever get a PS3, it'd be cool to use 360 controller while playing its games.
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there's no six axis in production
now is dualshock 3.
but the xbox360 controller is heavy ...and there's a battery back on the back.
I hate the buttons the colours are so chidlish!

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post Apr 21 2008, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Apr 21 2008, 09:56 AM)
user posted image
doh.gif
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I don't see why is funny hmm.gif
even though I typed wrong..
is actually a power cable.
so what?
I am just comparing lol..not getting the name right...that's so lame man


Added on April 21, 2008, 6:19 pm
QUOTE(stevechan360 @ Apr 21 2008, 03:27 PM)
I have both 360 and PS3,
but bcoz of the 3Rod case,
i'm actually quite disappointed with 360.
Now my 360 is still in Singapore,
waiting for Microsuck$ to change a new one for me.
Now i'm in fully potential with PS3.
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you need a falcon 1..
and take care of it.
don't play too long...even though you want to..is not good for your eyes too.
and don't put console near the walls.
put a fan there..
it helps also.
trust me.


Added on April 21, 2008, 6:21 pm
QUOTE(G-Shonen @ Apr 20 2008, 11:05 PM)
Well, I don't look at the controller much when I'm playing tongue.gif! You could be right about GH3 and PES because I didn't play those kinda games. I'm noticing a trend this gen where both analog sticks are being used in the videogame genre that I like so 360 controller is my choice.
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YEA!!


Added on April 21, 2008, 6:24 pm
QUOTE(clemong_888 @ Apr 20 2008, 06:56 AM)
from a wii owner, i would go for ps3. i dont care about size or graphics but games are important. i'm not really interested in 360's exclusives like halo or gears of war but i'm more interested in ps3's side like gt5(though forza on 360 looks tempting),ff13,mgs4,kingdom hearts,etc...

it all boils down to the the gamer and his preference on games.
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you said games are important..so is also matters in graphic performances.
why I choose xbox360 games?
well,most of xbox360 games has action games which you can play OVER and OVER again in XBOXLIVE
it wouldn't be boring and a neverending game just like DOTA!


Added on April 21, 2008, 6:29 pmand also I am wondering should I warn abt those ps3 and xbox360 owners are only allowed to vote in that poll?
Because I just find ppl voting without questioning and unknowing knowledge about xbox360 and the ps3.
Ppl who own it have the experiences and is true. =D

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post Apr 21 2008, 08:57 PM

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lol.
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post Apr 21 2008, 09:50 PM

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Btw..sorry xbox360 and ps3 fans.
I won't be here with you guys for quite some time till end of May.
Got exam man. sad.gif
Sorry bros unsure.gif

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