It doesnt take a genius to finish STPM at 18+. There are many students doing that. And i thought you were comparing the age of STPM and UEC grads, no?
From your post, it is obvious you are a non-bumi. I do admit that there are some limitations on non-bumi, but lets not go into there since it isnt allowed except in RWI. You dont need to compare everything with other races. You make do with what you can achieve, what you can do. Anyway, there are other alternatives despite not being able to get matrix. You can say UTAR is one of them, many people have this perception anyway.

But what was your point again?

This post has been edited by SuN_RaE198: May 1 2008, 11:27 PM

course transfer during my time(1 year++ ago) requires u to go in person and fill up a form(maybe they'll ask u to write a letter...jz simply draft 1 wif a reason will do)...processing fee? sry, forgotten how much coz too long ago, gettin old, suffering brain impairment

anyway, i enjoyed my 3 yrs uni life in utar, so i hope u all enjoy urs too

lolz lolz lolz. yeah.totally support Sun_rae...i thought we're talking about age,uec and studying previously?so, it's only natural that we include inside? i wouldn't want to say that m'sia is now practising 100% racial bias anymore esp in education. i got the offer to get into Matriculation, but i opt for form 6 instead. i could've got a good course in public uni in m'sia.but i din get and i opt for utar instead. my sis got the offer to study matri too.and she went in, now she's a pharmacy undergrad in UKM KL. lolz.u said smart so how?of course,being smart,eventually there alot of ways for u to get into uni or other unis around the world. being smart and having the etiquette is of course, the best thing cuz with that, it's no hard work to get lots of offer coming your way.

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Added on May 1, 2008, 11:48 pmlolz. this is also due to m'sia education system that we are able to take advantage of it. there's so many loopholes that we can find and with proper ways, there's alwiz a way into everything. choices are available everywhere

This post has been edited by devilousangel85: May 1 2008, 11:48 PM

i got ukm but i also didnt went to it, akane comparing malaysia with other country , where ppl can go to university after high school at early age ? in malaysia, obviously u have to go form 6 or if you are rich u can choose a level and UEC, how can compare with other country ? for non bumi, 10% rate only can enter matrix so low percentage, thats there reason we have utar and why utar are so popular with the student doubling up the fixtures every year

I seriously don't get you. At first, you were bragging about too much 18 y.o. in the University and bash UTAR for accepting UEC students. And whilst I defended that 18 y.o. is good enough to be in university as compared to other countries that accept young students, you come out with this post about "how can Malaysia system compared to other countries". And suddenly you are talking about race ratio in local universities. If so, what is the relevant point between race or age? Even a 3 year old kid will know how to differentiate what is "race" and what is "adult or kiddo".

Ok. If so, you were trying to say that 18 y.o. dont deserve/or too young to be at uni level, then why you said so? Because they are immature? Because they are playful ? Because they are stupid ? As long as they finish their pre-university programme, no matter whats their age, they still qualified.

Did I mention anything about people entering University after high school . Quote it out if possible as I am lazy to review all my post. Oh, yeah Foundation maybe. But, degree program, did I mention anything about it ?

Izzit these few sentence mislead you?

This post has been edited by Akane: May 2 2008, 01:44 AM

lolz...y cant we go uni after secondary sch?like i said last time.if i remember correctly,there are tests that you can sit to prove to the education system that u're at tertiary level of education and doesn't need to undergo the normal system. there are people who went to those tests are still went in uni after their high sch.lolz.

Kampar have hostel by UTAR one.. but currently full already. they now are locating new student to kTar hostel. whereby they say got buses wor.... U believe it o not lor

But nearby got housing area also.... Quite cheap ..but only nid to wory for your trasporting problem

Nice twist, talking from UEC to quota shits. All I can say is I smell jealousy in all of your posts. Jumping here and there only make it worst.

i guess in my days there is no option rather than form 6, a level is about 10k per semester, i guess you guys are lucky since, you all can take uec and jump from standard 3 to 5, i think utar/ktar is a nice place for the one who is left out in ipta application, in my days many students drop out after spm and stpm, cause they cant find a place in local university, ya u can go to uni after high sch, but my days is not practical, maybe im outdated =X

if i took engineering course at utar...which campus am i going?...setapak or pj

are you like really really old? dropping out after spm/stpm isnt that common nowadays.

depends on which engineering course.

lolz.how old can u be?i'm wondering.lolz

I firmly disagree on your statement about " UTAR / KTAR is a nice place for the one who is left out in IPTA application", you made UTAR sounds as if it is a second choice university and "no-choice-but-to-go-there" university, and i can rest assure you that it isn't. I have a few seniors that rejected the offer from IPTA and instead pursue their studies at UTAR.. and they are doing quite well, and they have no regrets about it.

FYI, since year 2000, there is no such thing as PTS anymore ( the test that enables one to jump from std 3 to std 5 )

which campus will i be going to if i took
1.falcuty of science
2.Bachelor of Science (Hons) Biomedical Science
3.Bachelor of Engineering (Hons) Chemical Engineering
4.Bachelor of Engineering (Hons) Biomedical Engineering
thx

Well. UTAR isnt my first choice as well . Back then, I was quite immature. I was given the chance to do my degree in RMIT/Monash Australia/ UNSW. Haha, but due to my small heart, I do not dare to take the challenge of living by myself there without my family. And also for certain reason, I opted not to go oversea thou I dont have any financial problem at all. That time, UTAR was something new, and I remembered one of my uncle who is a MCA-kia told me good things about UTAR. Then I made up my mind and joined UTAR.

At first, it wasn't something great. I am a banana, and thus I have hell of a time mixing around with friends during my foundation years. It was hard, real hard. I can't speak good mandarin, nor they can understand my Cantonese. But, I am eager to learn, as I felt mastering Mandarin is quite important too (since my dad always brag tat I dont know mandarin, i wanna prove to him that I can learn it by myself). Slowly, I adapted to the environment and it become something so exciting that, I am eager to meet my friends daily. Trust me. Its addictive to have friends like mine. Haha.

Then from Foundation, I went up to degree. The lecturer standard change, but I still can feel the warm-ness of UTAR's lecturer which you cannot find in top colleges or university in Malaysia. Maybe its due to the "Chinese to Chinese environment" factor la. But still, its great to have friendly, understanding and hardworking lecturer who are willing to answer my call in midnite, reply my mail on Sunday/off-day and meet us for consultation even she is suffering from nausea.

People always tell me "UTAR sucks". But after my industrial training in a TOP MNC Research Centre, I feel what they said to me its jz pure jealousy. UTAR is one of the private university that has some of the best lab equipment which they allow the student to use it for their resarch/experiment purpose. Now Imagine a university where you pay the double/triple the price of UTAR, but they dont allow you to touch/use a simple machine such as the centrifuge machine even when you are in the brink of entering your final year. Now Imagine there is this type of university where, they don't allow their students to perform their experiment, but instead the lecturers will do it while you jz look at it. And yes, that occurs throughout their diploma years. What I mention here are all true cases, that I listen to during my training time. The funniest part is when they ask me "Har!, they allow you do all this in your uni ah. Yerr.. so good wan, we all no chance wan la".

You be the judge. For me, UTAR is definitely good enough for me. I am planning to do my postgrad in Australia, but I never regreted my choice for my degree.

You will be entering Faculty of Science and Engineering, if they accept you. But regarding which campus, that have to depend on which course you get. Biomedical Science should be in Kampar, whilst the other 2 Engineering Course should remain in Setapak till 2011.

if its in May08 intake, they should all be in Setapak but will shift to Kampar sooner or later.

lolz.mine too.agreeing with what akane said,i too had a few choices in my hand. but i opted for UTAR instead. well,i've never regretted my decision.cuz in the end, utar has one of the best students inside and the lecturers as well.

Guys, would like to ask something. I had received the offer letter and student bill. It states there I should have three copies of the student bill while I only have two. Anyone in my shoes as well?

it should be student's copy, bank's copy and university's copy when you received it. after you made the payment at the bank, you'll only get student's copy back.

This post has been edited by LYR: May 13 2008, 07:48 PM

I received the student's copy and the bank's copy only. Already made the payment, the banker took their copy and gave me back my copy. You mean the bank would take the university's copy as well right? Wait, I can't really be sure how many copies I had in the first place. drats.