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post Jun 1 2008, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(Disciple @ Jun 1 2008, 07:36 AM)
Hello Darkie, i was wondering what exercises that i can do for my forearms...i have weak forearms and its affecting my other exercises like the bench press, dumbell press and even the EZ bar curls....

I currently finished HST Cycle 2 and in that cycle i was rotating between EZ bar curls and dumbell curls, would it be wise if i substitute the EZ bar curls with some wrist curls in the next cycle?
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Work your forearms on arm day. Reverse curls and some wrist curls. You're lucky you still have the potential for strong forearms. I fractured both of my wrists during a rollerblading incident many years ago. My wrists will never be up to full strength.

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ May 31 2008, 12:39 AM)
If i'm focusing on my triceps, i stay upright. If I want to hit my chest, i lean forward.
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Heh nice tip biggrin.gif thanks darkie.
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post Jun 1 2008, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jun 1 2008, 11:56 AM)
Work your forearms on arm day. Reverse curls and some wrist curls. You're lucky you still have the potential for strong forearms. I fractured both of my wrists during a rollerblading incident many years ago. My wrists will never be up to full strength.
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sorry to hear about your forearm incident...reverse curls, ok...ill include it on my program thumbup.gif thanks darkie notworthy.gif
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post Jun 1 2008, 07:21 PM

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Arms 1/6/2008

Warm up
Hammer chins
BW x 9
BW x 9

Dips
BW x 9
BW x 9

Dumbell curls
45lbs x 8
50lbs x 7
45lbs x 8
40lbs x 8

Supersetted with:-
Weighted dips
BW + 45lbs x 11
BW + 70lbs x 11
BW + 80lbs x 10
BW + 95lbs x 10

Concentration curls (drop sets)
35lbs x 7, 30lbs x 7, 25lbs x 4
30lbs x 7, 25lbs x 7, 20lbs x 4
25lbs x 7, 20lbs x 7, 15lbs x 4
25lbs x 7, 20lbs x 7, 15lbs x 4

Supersetted with:-
One arm db overhead extensions (per hand)
35lbs x 10
35lbs x 10
30lbs x 12
30lbs x 12

Hammer curls
20lbs x 12
20lbs x 10
20lbs x 10
20lbs x 10

Supersetted with:-
Tricep rope extensions
100lbs x 10
100lbs x 10
90lbs x 10
80lbs x 15

Comments:-
None. Just new PRs on dips. Drop sets on conc curls gave me a new kind of pump. Tried them out after watching Milos Sarcev's vid on bicep training.

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post Jun 1 2008, 07:31 PM

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got vid??? Btw is it a big deal to lock out on dips?
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post Jun 1 2008, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(JIB-89 @ Jun 1 2008, 07:31 PM)
got vid??? Btw is it a big deal to lock out on dips?
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I thought i already took a vid of me dipping 90lbs? Extra 10lbs isn't much of a difference. Lemme get to around 120lbs dips then i'll take another vid. =) And yeah, i lock out very briefly at the top. Max contraction.
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post Jun 1 2008, 11:06 PM

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Hi darklight79,
sry if i miss something... but
can you elaborate your abs exercise?
please and thank you
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post Jun 1 2008, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroLeingod @ Jun 1 2008, 11:06 PM)
Hi darklight79,
sry if i miss something... but
can you elaborate your abs exercise?
please and thank you
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When you want abs to show, it's not the exercises which matter but the amount of cardio you do and your diet which influences their visibility. That said, if a person has a naturally wide waist, i would advise him from doing any weighted abdominal work as doing so would cause the midsection to look thicker which is not pleasing in an aesthetic way.


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post Jun 3 2008, 08:43 PM

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Back (Thickness oriented) 3/6/2008

Barbell rows
Warm up
Bar x 12
135lbs x 12

Work sets
205lbs x 10
205lbs x 10
185lbs x 10
185lbs x 9
135lbs x 12

Cable rows
110lbs x 10
100lbs x 11
100lbs x 11
100lbs x 11
100lbs x 11

Hammer grip pulldowns
100lbs x 10
100lbs x 10
100lbs x 10
100lbs x 10

Dumbell shrugs (per hand)
90lbs x 15
90lbs x 15
90lbs x 15
90lbs x 12

Comments:-
I upped the ante on intensity. All sets were done within 30 - 45 seconds. My training partner (who benches 405lbs for reps) pushed me to the limit, allowing me to rest only when he was working in with me during his sets. That ba$tard. tongue.gif

Strength levels pretty good despite the fact that it's still a lil' fresh after my 2 weeks layoff and it's been a month since I've done barbell rows. Motivation levels are strong and steady. That's it folks.


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hey dark, do you think you could post a video of your barbell rows the next time around? thanks biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kege @ Jun 4 2008, 12:34 AM)
hey dark, do you think you could post a video of your barbell rows the next time around? thanks biggrin.gif
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Yeah sure.
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Legs 4/6/2008

Rotation Day 10

Squats
Warm up
135lbs x 12
225lbs x 8

Work sets
315lbs x 6
325lbs x 6
335lbs x 5
225lbs x 13

Leg curls
5 plates x 11
5 plates x 11
5 plates x 11
4 plates x 13

Leg extensions
180lbs x 15
195lbs x 13
210lbs x 12
225lbs x 11

Standing calf raises (per leg)
BW + 20lbs x 23
BW + 30lbs x 20
BW + 30lbs x 20
BW + 20lbs x 20

Comments:-
Mmmm... good. I needed 2 spotters for squats. tongue.gif Chest tomorrow.



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post Jun 5 2008, 08:44 PM

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Chest/Shoulders 5/6/2008

Rotation Day 11

Incline dumbell bench (per hand)
Warm up
45lbs x 12
50lbs x 12

Work sets
90lbs x 10
100lbs x 8
90lbs x 7
80lbs x 5

Flat dumbell bench
60lbs x 12
70lbs x 10
70lbs x 8
60lbs x 10

BW Dips
BW x 12
BW x 12
BW x 12

Cable crossovers
60lbs x 12
60lbs x 12
50lbs x 13

Dumbell lateral raises
35lbs x 10
30lbs x 10

Seated dumbell laterals
25lbs x 12
20lbs x 12



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post Jun 6 2008, 12:24 AM

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how come you reduce your volume by so much? and also how come u flat bench so much less than your incline? going for higher reps?
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post Jun 6 2008, 02:14 AM

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QUOTE(kege @ Jun 6 2008, 12:24 AM)
how come you reduce your volume by so much? and also how come u flat bench so much less than your incline? going for higher reps?
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I need a change. Besides overall volume is the key here, not total number of sets. Notice how im beginning to go for straight sets. If in one workout I do 90lbs x 10, then 80lbs x 10, it would be (90lbs x 10) + (80lbs x 10), the total poundage would be 1700lbs.
Then my next progressive workout, I do (100lbs x 10), then (90lbs x 10), that would be 1900lbs total. Obviously i don't need that many burn sets later. But my RM maxes would still be around 75% to 80% as to still induce hypertrophy. I'm lazy to calculate the total poundages of all my sets here but you get the idea. If i get stronger i obvious would have to reduce the volume slightly to compensate, then work my way up to the same number of sets of reps again.
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hey i just wanna ask, is WPI better in terms of cost and benefit compared to a WPC or should I just stick with a WPC for post-workout?
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post Jun 6 2008, 09:22 AM

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How are ya dark?

See, I have this silly issue, My triceps tend to get messed up during my push routine so this basically affects my dips. I have to actually do my dips first and then go for the shoulder press and db chest press. I am wondering, how do you train to keep the triceps steady even after chest work. Oh yes another one is, my wrist tend to hurt when I curl, does it mean that my forearms are weak?
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QUOTE(sanesaint @ Jun 6 2008, 06:37 AM)
hey i just wanna ask, is WPI better in terms of cost and benefit compared to a WPC or should I just stick with a WPC for post-workout?
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I thought most powders come in both WPI and WPC content, just that the ratio differs? I wouldn't sweat it though, protein is protein and unless we're preparing for IFBB competitions, it wouldn't be really an issue. =)

QUOTE(shanecross @ Jun 6 2008, 09:22 AM)
How are ya dark?

See, I have this silly issue, My triceps tend to get messed up during my push routine so this basically affects my dips. I have to actually do my dips first and then go for the shoulder press and db chest press. I am wondering, how do you train to keep the triceps steady even after chest work. Oh yes another one is, my wrist tend to hurt when I curl, does it mean that my forearms are weak?
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Imo, the push/pull/legs routine may not be for everyone. It depends on your goals and muscular endurance. Hola Bola did it for a while but he later switched to a routine where he gave arms its own separate day. Some people work shoulders together with arms. Either you eliminate dips from your workouts or try giving arms a separate day if their your priority.

Lol.... my wrists hurt after EZ and straight bar curls too. That's why i dropped them for a while and switched to db curls and preachers. You can try that.
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post Jun 6 2008, 12:20 PM

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I paused and started thinking, its bloody true, I probably suffered some endurance drop. I am actually looking at the rotations. Thanks, been alot of help
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post Jun 6 2008, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(shanecross @ Jun 6 2008, 12:20 PM)
I paused and started thinking, its bloody true, I probably suffered some endurance drop. I am actually looking at the rotations. Thanks, been alot of help
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Bob Chic always believed in working each bodypart fresh. I feel the same way too. The only time i do 2 push parts in a day are chest and shoulders because i only do lateral raises for my delts anyway. =)

So what're your plans?

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