Mar 13 2008, 01:52 AM
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Heero's plot armor or not, it still doesnt change the fact that tallgeese cant do a thing to the gundams. (lets leave skill, specs etc etc out on this one for a sec) which was the whole point im trying to bring, the gundams are NOT opposed at all. in 00, you can actually capture a gundam (well that failed.), pin them down (until lol trinity surprise buttsecks show up), and slice their cockpit apart (almost killin lockon). to me thats a BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG difference, and to my believe was a factor in the storyline's pace.
true, for the most part the writer is responsible a storyline's pace. but i personally believe that above mentioned would also influence the pace one way or another. theres just a lot to tell in a political view of gundam 00, and if you look back at W, things were rather *stale*. like almost no story behind the characters, antagonist, and thats even when the show is pretty much focused around the 4 pilots + zechs + a few other randoms.
again, while the "basic concept" of the grunts are just to be cannon fodder aka free frags. i would like to point out the major difference and what i was mainly point to was the fact that 00 grunts gives the feel that the pilots of said grunts are actually trying rather than standing still and bending over. like the HRL grunts, they form formations, co-op in pinning down the gundams etc. Union's overflag squadron is even better in doing that needless to say. not much to comment on AEU as there isnt much spotlight on them, but the moralia pmc part does give an idea of how they actually fight vs bending over and die for screentimes.
i personally dont find zechs being dynamic over the current 00 antagonist. i dont see any basic background storyline of zechs minus his retarded hatred for the gundams, and his plots involving OZ. graham, ali (especially this guy), patrick, hrl's soma peiris and sergei all shown a very steady and as you may put it, dynamic development and background storyline too. i personally believe the reason behind your saying is from the fact that there is one zechs, for example, vs a splitted "attention" of say 5 antagonist in 00, so the resulted "value" of the character lessens considerably. but as wolfx also mentioned before, 00 doesnt resolve in the classic 1 hero 1 villian story telling. so theres that and i would say it would be up to personal preference instead one being better than the other or the other way around.
as for kira's soap drama, im not really reffering to his emotions, rather, the times during the space ship where he isnt fighting for example, just drag the whole show showing him standing still, thinking random emo thoughts, then lacus comes around, or the other random girl comes around, waste more screentime, more emo thoughts, yada yada, getting the drift here? i hope so, because im already in agony remembering those scenes T_T
now all that said, if they remove those scenes for say, more gundam fights, or more meaningful character developments for the OTHER CHARACTERS instead of 'jesus' kira, i believe GS/GSD could actually be pretty damn good, by this alone.
think the biggest example of "fighting random gundams" (yes gundams, not grunts, btw) would be from GS, the whole spaceship chasing part. chase a few, gundam launch, pew pew pew, chase again, gundam launch, pew pew pew pew pew, add in some drama spice, some energy low scenes, sudden burst of skill, some pwning. /facepalmmuch
well since your so firm on not even letting it go about wanting to mix up the entire gundam name, ill just leave it at there. since ive made my point on why its bad. and previous thread already proven said point. hopefully this thread continues its positive flow and wont turn into a shitfest resulting the thread totally goin mildly inactive due to everyone not willing to give an inch to their preferred gundam series and causing everyone having less opportunity to even put up a decent discussion.
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