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post Mar 4 2008, 02:12 PM

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WTF man.... new thread and all spam? tongue.gif

I've a suggestion. Should we put some important links for gundam such as gundamofficial, mahq, gunota etc on the first page so that fellow gundam fans can have easy access to information around the web?

And if possible, it'll also be nice to list out all Gundam series in chronological order and of course divided accordingly to its respective Universe.
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post Mar 4 2008, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(ahhann @ Mar 4 2008, 02:27 PM)
We'll leave that important task to you. Now, get going with the suggestion and post it tonight ! Do it for the long live CHAR !!!
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I don't mind doing it since it's just a simple copy and paste URL task... but will need firedauz's help to alter the first post.

Char's dead... It's Furu Folontalu now... !!

QUOTE(gaijin_otoko @ Mar 4 2008, 04:26 PM)
haha i agree

i dont think that listing the gundams in chronological order would be necessary as the info can be found easily in wikipedia

but well if you insist to do so, plz do  thumbup.gif

now...err wut was the last thing that we discussed in V5? hehe forgot already  tongue.gif
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Yes, google and wiki has most of the answers... but it's just for people who are lazy to search tongue.gif

Last thing in V5... Saji I think tongue.gif
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post Mar 4 2008, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(300078 @ Mar 4 2008, 05:25 PM)
all i know is Gunpla! And my gunpla knowledge is more than my gundam knowledge so cant help!
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Hehe... indeed, gunpla information is easier to find on the net compared to the animes...
You have to watch more gundam... because Tomino said so. whistling.gif laugh.gif

Here you go firedauz... just copy the code.

And if anyone comes across comprehensive and informative gundam sites, feel free to add...
Sharing is caring.

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post Mar 5 2008, 04:59 AM

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Mar 5 2008, 12:02 AM)
WTf... I know G-saviour is crappy but atleast catogarize it properly.. Its should be under altenative UC..

but if it sucks so much how come Anime News Network rated it an A-..
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tongue.gif But I wasn't wrong in the categorisation since G-Saviour was indeed disowned from the original UC line.

Well you could let firedauz know about this... I don't care much about G-Saviour since virtually no one likes it, and even Tomino kicked it out of the original UC line.

QUOTE(redeye84 @ Mar 5 2008, 03:13 AM)
he is Saji Crossroad..

With the lost of his sister and the hand of his GF.. Saji when into a hyper state of emotional rollercoaster..

With his heart loads of vengeance he sworn revenge on all Gundams.. So he manage to modify a Tieren and manage to replicate the GNX generator...

THis is his final result

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post Mar 5 2008, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(firedauz @ Mar 5 2008, 12:12 PM)
What's the final verdict? G-Savior under a category called Alternative UC? biggrin.gif
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Righto...

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post Mar 6 2008, 05:52 AM

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QUOTE(aprisis @ Mar 5 2008, 07:02 PM)
the o got mg meh?
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There is... in Keroro's world.
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post Mar 6 2008, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(300078 @ Mar 6 2008, 07:39 AM)
and i hope it will also become true in the real world!
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That'll cost a bomb if it's true. The gigantic Sazabi is already 8000 yen, The O would probably be around that region...

Anyway, that's more gunpla than anime stuff.

Oh yeah firedauz... add one more link to the first post:
Zeonic Corps
Good for translated scanlations.

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[URL=http://www.zeonic-republic.net/]Zeonic Corps[/URL]


And does anyone want Belthorchika's Children or 0079 novel? In Chinese though... Can put it at the front link or something...
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post Mar 6 2008, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(RCrex @ Mar 6 2008, 01:00 PM)
i think lockon din die la
high potential from my experience

anyone read crossbone gundam x's comic b4?
the X1 pilot who was formerly f91 pilot
got sliced by beam saber by the X2 who betray the crossbone

but then the X1 pilot return alive juz he lost an arm

yet lockon's case is less serious
n haro not spoiled also

maybe lockon will b the one wearing mask
since they may b scars on his face coz of the glass of his helmet broke
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Using the Gundam rule, anyone who wasn't shown in the anime to die via explosion/decapitation/stabbed/chopped in cockpit has a chance to be resurrected.

Not sure about Seabook in Xbone though... never read that before... was he truly shown to be sliced into half? If not, he has every chance to survive.
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post Mar 6 2008, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(Hellscream @ Mar 6 2008, 05:21 PM)
How to explain Gundam Seed?
Andrew Waltfeld with his Bacue, coclpit hit back Strike Gundam Dagger. But still alive, only lost a arm and a eye ...... sad.gif

When the whole Strike Gundam is destroy and the pilot "Mu" helmet floating at space, In GSD he come back alive as mask man ...... blink.gif
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Ask Fukuda and his team of writers... Mwu is dead in GS... he was only brought back to life after they edited the helmet thingy in the special edition of GS. Andrew... well, I have no bloody idea why too... did a beam go through his body? If it's just explosions that surrounded him, he's still pretty much intact by the Gundam rule.

After all, how did Kira survive Aegis' blast when the cockpit and chair was melted into semi-liquid?
Because 1. he didn't get decapitated/beam-pierced. 2. his helmet didn't fill up with blood.

QUOTE(Exiled_Gundam @ Mar 6 2008, 05:54 PM)
Huhu, true2. That just reminds me of Gundam X anime. I think Gundams(and some grunt MS like Crouda) in that series is among the one that has toughest armor in Gundam history, coz they can withstand beam attack without some sort of defense field or special coating. However, the can't withstand beam weaponry from Space Revolutionary Army, coz theirs have higher outputs.
Hehe... this is why some UC elitists hate AU coz of the indestructible armour.

I can accept the fact that the AU armour is able to block bullets eg Leo's rifle, but beams should cut though those armour easily unless coated with antibeam layer. The Tauruses sliced Deathsycthe and Shenlong easily with their beam rifles.

Then again, GX and DX got hell lots of beam shots from the Frost brothers and didn't even get destroyed dry.gif

QUOTE(wolfx @ Mar 6 2008, 07:44 PM)
Well beam saber can cut through any physical armour (unless got anti beam coating), that's the same throughout all Gundam universe.

I guess the Gundams all have some super gundarium alloy with anti beam coating but like UC the coating becomes less effective with repeated fire.
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TallGeese's beam sabre didn't manage to penetrate Heavyarms' torso when Zechs slashed it repeatedly, and that surely WTFed Zechs... otherwise Heero would have been vaporised and the show will end there tongue.gif

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QUOTE(kyon22 @ Mar 6 2008, 10:54 PM)
I went WTF after I found Mu La Fraga still alive in GSD and rau le cruest got a son?..(I know rey za burrel is a clone)
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It's pretty obvious from the start that Rey is a Raw/Mwu clone... they didn't specifically say it, but it couldn't get any less obvious.

And the first second I saw Neo I shouted, "MMMMMWWWWWWWWUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!"

The best is still Gilbert, my first impression was "CCCCCCCHHHHHHAAAAAAAARRRRRRRR !!" thanks to his seiyu... that has got to be the most memorable and sexy voice in the whole of Gundam.

QUOTE(aprisis @ Mar 6 2008, 10:58 PM)
his helmet cracked la..
rau is the only character i feel worth watching in GS, not mentioning GSD

another 1 is aisha.
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Aisha? shocking.gif Well she did nothing except dying icon_rolleyes.gif Ok that's harsh, but she wasn't of any importance in the show hehe...
Rau le Klueze is WIN. Providence is WIN, no CE antagonist beats him in terms of badassness.
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I LOL'ed at this... now Exia is going to have a Unicorn-like glowing skeleton !!
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post Mar 8 2008, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(Sey @ Mar 8 2008, 06:11 PM)
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from animesuki zomg
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OMFG... That is seriously SUCK. This is gundam, not power rangers !!!

Bate disapproves of this shit.
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Why we watch GSD even though it's bad.
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Keroro... Gandamu.... Ikimasu !!
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QUOTE(boltguard @ Mar 9 2008, 12:21 PM)
lao XD, i was away for a while & V6 pops out XD, lawl,

anyways, remember lil' hathaway? biggrin.gif, i happen to found this pic sumwhere,
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and judging from the pic, there's amuro in it XD, so i guess he's "god-mode_on" huh?  laugh.gif
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That's Hathaway's flash... why is Amuro in the poster? tongue.gif New type ghost again?

OMFG... GN Flag... despite how kickass it might be, the 00 gundams will surely churn out some Bates-disapproved moves... Last time it was Omnislash... maybe this time Exia will perform Shinryu-Ken or Syoru-Reppa... doh.gif doh.gif: doh.gif

Origami Zgok !! WIN !!
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QUOTE(Eisenmeteor @ Mar 9 2008, 11:00 PM)
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Two of them died? Died as in "truly dead" aka beam-pierced or died as in "resurrectable"?

Not another Heine case where they are just cameos... dry.gif

QUOTE(boltguard @ Mar 10 2008, 01:45 AM)
lawl, i just finished watching Zeta movie III, its somehow different from the one in the original anime, after zeta screwed Scirocco's The O, Scirocco somehow forgot to "screw" back to Kamille, lol, in the end, Kamille replies as Fa talks =D, in which it doesnt happened in the original series, where Kamille turns into a coo-coo head  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  rolleyes.gif

anyways, dayem, i'm sooo interested in how Mafty Nevue Erin a.k.a Hathaway got caught, i mean, i cant really tell who's the real hero here XD, seeing Hathaway as Bright's son, he was supposed to be the hero of the whole story, but since he was given, or rather stole the RX-105 Xi Gundam, he carries on the will of the Zeon's, that is still to make people of Earth to migrate into space -____-, but on the other hand, Rein Eim pilots he prootype RX-104FF Penelope Gundam, which has the same abilities as Xi, is in the Earth Federation XD, lol, dunno who to support, but the story's been decided anyways, lol  tongue.gif

so i did some research, just wanna see how Hathaway actually got caught XD, curiosity, curiosity:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuph0dARbso

^ his voice sounds sooo childish tongue.gif, and he stupidly fell into the trap >_<

but in the game SD gundam g generation spirits, he somehow sound so "manly" (of course, as the Mafty taiko, he needs to act macho cool >w<

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hf24j6Kjz8

i dun really read the novel, so i dunno much about Hathaway's Flash tongue.gif
wow, guess i wrote too much xD
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No no no, you didn't write too much... in fact it's good icon_idea.gif

Z3... Scirocco for the WIN !! No one can be as pimpin' yet kicking ass like Paptimus did.
I still can't accept why Emma died... vmad.gif At least go down heroically like Henken did, not by a piece of shrapnel... dry.gif

I'll appreciate whoever comes and gives us an explanation about Hathaway's Flash since that novel is quite obscure. In fact, I'm not sure whether it's canon or not despite being written by Tomino. As for the video games, I don't think they can be taken that seriously.

The best I could find were these, and I think you probably have read them before:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Suit_G...way's_Flash
http://www.geocities.com/gundam_hathaway/index.html
http://www.gearsonline.net/gundam/hathaway.php

Maybe some Japanese sites would help more, but me no read Jepun.

Now everybody has a Meteor-like machine. WTF man...
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 10 2008, 11:57 AM)
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QUOTE(boltguard @ Mar 10 2008, 08:04 AM)
eheheh  laugh.gif thx sooo much for teh info StarGhazzer-san XD, actually, when it comes to UC era ~ u noe better than i do >33, its really useful >w<, yoooosh, Hathaway is my Idol now, no moar Char, shoo shoo  doh.gif , i wonder if Amuro god_mode_on & Hathaway will make appearence in the Unicorn series  whistling.gif  ~~, since Hathaway's still alive until UC 105 (2nd Universal Century)  whistling.gif ~~

btw, i heard from my friends that Unicorn will be out in a single movie format? i thought it's in a anime series format?  rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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First up, where did you get the Unicorn news? Some of my friends were saying that too but I couldn't find any sources online... My opinion is that there won't be an OVA/Movie in the near future since the novel is scheduled all the way till 2009... So there's more than a year's time to go before the story ends.

Seriously, I have no idea how the story has developed so far. The only thing I know from quick browsing and forum surfing is that Barnage and his Unicorn has been captured by Full Frontal's forces.

I'm pretty interested in the Laplace System as no one knows what exactly it is. A Zero system like computer program? Or just a bunch of top secret files that holds the key to the so-called "mystery" of Universal Century? Absolutely no idea. And since the year is set in 0096, would it span all the way till 0100 where Zeon surrenders and gets integrated back into EF?

Hathaway... not sure whether I want him to be in Unicorn or not. He's Katz MKII... who the heck shoots at his ally in the battlefield? And worse still, he shoots a immobilised ReGZ instead of a full functional opponent. Damn... at least he did better in Belthorchika's Children where he took down Quess' Alpha Azeiru even though it was a fluke shot like his downing of Chan.

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Cheimin? Blonde hair? She was a brunette in Z and CCA... oh well, the teenage years... pan leng leng, go dye hair.

No more Char? Read on... Taken from Chapter 9 of the novel.
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The translated parts for those who don't understand Chinese:
1. Barnage: "Are you Full Frontal?"

2. Full Frontal: "I'm only a medium (actual word is container)."
Barnage: "A medium?"
FF: "I'm a medium which carries the will of those who are exiled into space, the ambitions of those who hold true to the ideology of Zeon. If they truly have these ambitions, then I will be Char Aznable... And this mask, exists for this sole purpose."


So there you go, FF neither admits or denies his identity... but from the picture, you guys decide. Look at his forehead.
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Then again, if FF is truly Char; I hope Amuro doesn't make a comeback coz:
1. He might steal the show and overwhelms Barnage as the protagonist
2. Having one character survive the cockpit evaporation in CCA is bad enough, having TWO? WTF man...
3. It'll be Char-Amuro all over again... rolleyes.gif Meaning Lalah will once again play a role... let her rest in peace ler
4. Char will get his ass kicked perpetually by Amuro... damn it let him win for once lah...

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QUOTE(300078 @ Mar 10 2008, 02:39 PM)
wow if Char and Amuro come back! It will really be WTF with this 2 old geeks! They should retired!
By the way did u bought any of the Chinese translated Unicorn Novel?
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Nah... you can get the Chinese version here... just go to page 2
http://photo.163.com/photos/led2989/

QUOTE(wolfx @ Mar 10 2008, 02:41 PM)
LOL! Macross style art by Mikimoto?
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Mikimoto = WIN. His art in 0080 and Ecole du Ciel is WIN. Asuna is WIN.
At least his characters look different unlike GSD's.

Damn... I went to youtube and watched the Omnislash again... OMFG... first they stole Unicorn's glowing frame, then F91's afterimages, and Cloud's Omnislash.... PPPFFFFFFHHHHHHHHH !!

Where's the creativity guys? shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(300078 @ Mar 10 2008, 04:48 PM)
lol maybe he is just some clone of Char! And by the way if we want to argue it will gonna go back to the gundam theory thing again! A gundam pilot only dies if u see he in his cockpit explode or slash by some beam saber!
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Char clone.... Gaia Gear again? dry.gif

QUOTE(redeye84 @ Mar 10 2008, 04:55 PM)
That also my beef with Gundam also.. What the deal with pilots MS blowing up and the pilots come out in 1 piece..

The least they should had done is that pilots surviving must have atleast 3rd degree burns.. Look at Howard Hughes in The Aviator..

His plane crash and was on fire.. He made it out alive but aint exactly in a good condition.. Pilots must show some sort of permatant scars or pain in these crashes or it reflect as a pointless mistake.. Or victory came with a price..

Sigh... I aint gonna do comparing cos some members will take this as UC fanbois rants..
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3rd degree burns ain't nothing. A skin graft will do just fine, leaving behind ugly scars.

An explosion in your face should probably blow every bit of flesh off...
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QUOTE(RCrex @ Mar 10 2008, 09:40 PM)
i wonder how unicorn's story links to gundam XI?
o even how they r related to the comic moon crisis?

unicorn seems to hav higher technology than XI gundam o F91
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At the moment we have no idea how powerful the Unicorn can be. Late UC units have the Minovsky Drive tech which enables the mecha to fly/float in the atmosphere. We don't know for sure whether Unicorn's mechas can do that or not. I don't think Unicorn mechas are overpowered at the moment since they are pretty much a continuation of CCA units. Psychoframe tech is already budding by 0093 hence Anaheim should have advanced within 3 years.

Don't underestimate the technology in F91. It outmanoeuvred, outran, and outgunned everything it went up against. Chances are it might be stronger than Unicorn era suits.
Same with Victory suits where agility pwns brute force.

0083's units overwhelm those seen in Z... and the excuse is that the entire Gundam Project was swept under the carpet.

A simple reason will suffice in bridging the tech gap... Maybe Laplace wiped out the remaining history of early UC?
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QUOTE(300078 @ Mar 11 2008, 11:46 AM)
I dun think Unicorn can match with late UC mecha! Those buddy are fast and agile! U saw those Jegan pawn to hell by those Crossbone Grunts! And the beam power already been upgraded a lot since then! Their beam saber can easily chop of the shield of Jegan while older beam saber cant blow the shield in one hit! Fire power was also seriously upgraded!

0083 unit are Black History of UC so does the AoZ! Even Sentinel Gundam novel is overpowered!
they is still some fan translate version out there! And if u understand Chinese u could even buy some translated Gundam Novel to read (TW got lots of them)
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As I've said, we don't know the full capabilities of the Unicorn era MSes yet to make a decision. They could easily be more powerful than late UC, or the other way round.

Late UC mechas are horrendously overpowered when compared to their small size. The VSBRs of F91 cuts through almost everything, while V2 has beam wings which disable units which flies through the Minovsky particle field. Not forgetting that such a small unit like V2 can generate enough output to levitate the mecha as well as power the Assault-Buster pack + beam shields + VSBR (unused in anime though). And if that's not crazy enough, the Zanneck's particle cannon scorches Earth like the Ion Cannon from C&C.

0083... well apart from the Dendrobium/Nuel Ziel which is a one-man-army, the only indication that the mecha surpasses early Zeta units is their spec sheet. In fact, the MKII and Hyaku Shiki are underpowered machines considering the fact that EF had so much technology on their side in 0083. GP01 is just a normal Gundam with higher output, in fact the Alex should be a better machine as it has slightly higher acceleration and maneuverability. GP02... it's pretty useless without the nuke despite the amazing generator output.

The point is, we can only speculate about Unicorn era suits.
My speculation is that they will be (and should) slightly more powerful than CCA units yet not quite devastating as late UC suits.
Grunts aside, the Kshatriya is pretty much a Queen Mantha + Quebeley hybrid so it should be a formidable foe, Unicorn's basic mode is quite mediocre and its Destroy mode's capabilities are still less well known. Sinanju? We have no idea about its potential... It could pretty much be like the Sazabi, i.e. commander suit with nothing much to show off except higher output thrusters and weapons.

I won't be surprised if the Sinanju opens up the armour and bling-blings its psychoframe. After all it is one of the prototype suits which preceded the Unicorn.

One thing worth mentioning is that the tech advancement from the very beginning i.e. 0079 onwards is absolutely fast. The old suits like RX78 and even Zakus only have 1/2 or even 1/4 outputs of the later suits of Z, ZZ and CCA while the weight of the mechas are not that much different.

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 11 2008, 10:47 PM)
that is no doubt. but i personally would view it as all the pilots are "equal skill" minus the aces like graham/ali, so they can be on "even grounds" even when CB technology is ahead. i mean, if you wanna friggin wage war with the entire earth, its only logical to be ahead no?

but for the sake of an anime, no matter what you have to keep the grounds even so it will be interesting to watch. so what we constantly see is 1 side being better, then suddenly the other, then right now as trans-am is out, shifted back into CB's favor. but who knows what will happen when the GN-X are mass produced? (they are in the process of doing that assumingly)
GW units > Leos and Aries

Taurus + Virgos > GW units

GW upgrade !!

GW upgrade > Taurus + Virgos

Ring a bell?

To be fair, in most gundam series the factions involved will always churn out new and more powerful mechas.
The main criticism now for 00 is that the surprises keep on coming just to turn the tide towards one side, then show off crazy pwning skills, and few episodes later some secret is unlocked and shifts the advantage back to the original faction. Where the heck is the storyline + character development?

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