GN Arms arrives just in time to save CB. It looks like a METEOR unit made for Exia. Hmmm. Poor Lockon. But i dun think he's dead. In the world of Gundam, the only way you can die is getting sliced in half by a beam saber in the cockpit.

No they don't. The cannon fodders are just seriously injured after their MS explodes and after few days in hospital they are put back in the Tao Tze, Tierens, Flags, and Enacts to fight another day getting shot down.

Only those with visual snapshot getting dismembered in cockpit really die.

let the Mobile Suit spam begin.
model kits galore!

Nah they just know Virtue's particle compression ratio.

But surprised Dyname's rifle can't even go through GN-X's armour.

Well beam saber can cut through any physical armour (unless got anti beam coating), that's the same throughout all Gundam universe.

I guess the Gundams all have some super gundarium alloy with anti beam coating but like UC the coating becomes less effective with repeated fire.

GEKIGANNNN PUNCHHH!!!

Then there's the emo aestivalis pilot. lulz.

I dunno what's goin on but i'll just say...

"JUST AS PLANNED!"

LOL! Macross style art by Mikimoto?

WARNING! INCOMING BUTTRA3P!

This post has been edited by wolfx: Mar 10 2008, 02:42 PM

I think its more because the technology allows them to make smaller gundams...not to cut costs.

Trans-Am sounds like old muscle cars. XD

Were u missing during the revelation of Allejandro's plan, Aeolia revealing himself, and Lagna Harvey's involvement in the whole thing? There's your storyline.

00 may not have too much character development since its the 1s gundam that actually concentrated on the whole world's situation told from perspectives of a few characters from different factions, rather than classic Gundams that stick to one main emo character and overdevelop them.

Agreed. I prefer 00 style story telling compared to Zeta style or even Seed style that over-develops their characters and make me bored/angry with them and want to Bright-Slap them.

Wing and 00 as some ppl mentioned have similar story-telling by focusing on the politics but 00 does it better with the execution without boring u to death, though some ppl here seem to complain about it...not sure why.

But omg ep 22's yaoi Tiera x Lockon moments really made me cringe. There surely lotsa doujins coming out soon......Tiera is bloody Uke....

*facepalms*

Because some stupid spoiler reader read china animator spoilers and posted it big big....i now know the truth about Trinity, Allejandro etc. ARGHHH!!! DAMN YOU @*(&!*(@&(!@!.

*sigh*

I wasn't too far off the mark either.

Like whom?

You want less characters and more focused on the emo Setsuna u mean?

GN Drive seems to defy gravity, so no prob.

I dunno if you been watching bad subs, or no subs, or if u understand the story....or maybe u never watched episode 22 yet which reveals almost everything bout CB.

CB's goal is to eliminate war through conflict. In ep 22, it is revealed that CB's plan has been this all the while. Aeolia and Veda's plan has been the same all this time. No "JUST AS PLANNED" as we theorised in the beginning, quite thankfully. Even the meisters were confused if their destruction was part of the plan. When their GN-drives were unlocked , they realised they were Aeolia's backup plan so their destruction wasn't part of the plan.

From ep 22, we know:

1.) Aeolia earnestly and sincerely wanted world peace and created CB and Gundams for this purpose.
2.) Allejandro and his whole family has manipulated CB for their own needs. They want to rule the unified world and use the CB technology for their own means. I accidentally read some spoilers that will be revealed later more about the Corner family and their involvement in CB.
3.) Trinity, GN-X, Lagna Harvey and Allejandro basically are rogue elements not existing in Veda's plan, thus spoiled Aeolia's plans for peace. In ep 20, you could see that if CB continued interventions without these outside interferences, they would've gained peace by now. But then there will be no more story to tell if this was the case right? So comes in Allejandro and his treachery. Story continues.

Thus i disagree the story is stagnant. The story is moving. You somehow aren't realising it?

Its a cold war. Cold war does not equal peace. If anybody started a small fight, the world will suffer. CB wanted to defuse the delicate bomb before it explodes into full scale global war, by 1st being the common enemy of the 3 nations, and also to deter them from starting any conflicts by marshalling them like a guardian angel. Thus CB acts as a judge, jury and executioner to "scare" ppl to be at peace.

Trinity was made by Allejandro and his faction and isn't part of Veda's plan but team trinity themselves don't know this. They are made more as a distraction and deterrent to the original CB team. You realised that CB couldn't carry out any interventions during Team Trinity's interventions....and also their interventions spoiled Sumeragi and Veda's plans.


Real motive of CB, i mentioned above. It has never changed. At 1s ppl was confused if there was an ulterior motive but there isn't. Trinity, also explained above. As a distraction for CB.

And about 1 dimensional characters...i guess this is one show where its plot driven. Not character driven. The characters are all just small pawns to portray an epic story. I know that lately the trend is to make character driven anime where god-like characters are very developed where the whole plot and story revolves around 1 or few characters, but it seems with 00 its going back to anime's roots and making a more plot-driven story where each character is just one cog in a giant machine.

I guess u can call it 1 dimensional characters but to me it is just a different narrative form.

I personally felt the Naturals vs Coordinator bits COULD have been interesting but got bored with the theme because you don't feel the troubles of the world due to this issue. Coordinators are just minority gifted people who are being bullied by a bigger (jealous) race. Think Nazi vs Jews. If they made it this way like show how the coordinators are being oppressed, how they want peace, and how the naturals are not stupidly "KILL ALL COORDINATORS" i think the story would be way better. But too bad its just a "LOL I HATE YOUR RACE SO I MUST KILL U" and the coordinators "YOU ATTACK US SO I ATTACKU U BACK!" kinda story. They could even show on Orb how Coordinators and Naturals live a very peaceful life and how they get along with each other but this was all downplayed cuz why?Cuz the plot revolves around Kira F*****g Yamato and Shin F*****g Asuka.

He found out about Allejandro and the Corner faction ....so he ordered Throne to kill him...under guise of "intervention".

That's cause Allejandro wanted to rule the world himself with CB as the scapegoats. Aeolia hoped that the current meisters that Veda specifically chosen (so that they won't betray Aeolia's ideals) will fight on for eradication of war thus unlocking the Trans-Am system.

You're right, maybe there will be peace if the meisters just "disappear" but that bad guy Allejandro is gonna rule the world!! If there is peace, its only temporary before he becomes more power hungry and wanna start more wars to gain profit!! Maybe selling GN drives to the highest bidder or something. Aeolia doesn't want that thus gives the meisters the power.

That's what U.S is doing now isn't it?
And u say u dun believe it, but fact is it works. A necessary evil.
You think Iraq will be better if US didn't "intervene"? At least now it has no Saddam and democracy is being placed but unfortunately US has its own agenda under guise of peace, (just like Allejandro Corner)

Sometimes i wonder if i'm the only one watching the show PROPERLY.....

Yeah....CB is doing what Raito did basically. Whether wrong or not is up to you to choose la. But what i'm saying is it works! You can't deny that it works. Just thought i'd say that.

And about other comments i just correction some mistakes or points missed while u guys watched 00 cuz seems u guys have some gaps in the story and blame it on story of 00 when they have already explained it.


Well now he is APPARENTLY dead....cuz we only see crack glass...never see his head explode into blood in the casket, according to Gundam rule of death.

So if he is truly dead, we won't know if he had an agenda or not. But like i posted above, Eifman's death was most probably due to Allejandro, not CB.

But actually due to the *!@&!*(@ spoiler , i know just a little bit more about the relation between Allejandro and CB but i'll keep quiet for everyone's enjoyment here....since my enjoyment of theory-creation is gone now.


yeah...some of his actions is really emo and stupid....but at least he sincerely wanna stop war based on his personal experiences as a child soldier. Guess this is Veda's selection criteria.

Hmmm...so in short , you just want a 13 episode anime compared to 26 ?

Allelujah...uhh who is this paralysis again?

Saji: Why not civ pov important? Of course its important. Saji represents us, the people. The people who suffer due to war. Not people who fight just cuz they are soldiers. And having him lose his sister and Louisse's arm, it definately hints on later developments that he will further his sister's work just like his sister who followed their dad. If they replaced Saji with a nameless faceless cannon fodder character, viewers won't feel the attachment and just treat this person as.....a cannon fodder.

Moralia: Shows that even with EU banded together with the help of mercenaries, they are no match for Gundams. Every attempt to capture Gundam after that conflict was met with a stronger and stronger resistance finally leading to that joint operation that almost ended with CB's defeat. Also shows that PMC isn't making money in a world lacking of conflict due to CB and that PMCs were proxies of countries that were waging "undeclared wars". CB's work is definately starting to show effect.

HRL GUndam Capture: So you rather Nadleeh didn't strip and they all get captured right away and show ends at that episode? Tiera had to strip to escape.

If you wanna blame filler episodes, you'd best blame Seed and Seed Destiny. Some episodes just had them running from the enemy ship without any development of plot.

Well i think i'm quite sure they will have an episode that shows everyone's motivation to join CB later.

LOL....TV broadcasters will hate you as a writer.

I'm sure all will be revealed in due time. We have 4 + 26 episodes more to go after all. I rather the development happened across the 2 seasons rather than super development in season 1 with nothing else, and rush towards a non-epic battle by s1 end. Then start throwing shit against the fan in season 2.

Even in Code Geass not everything is revealed yet like Marianne's death, the Emperor, V.V/C.C's objective, etc etc but I don't see you complaining?