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INTEL P4/PM 478/479 THREAD, >>V6<<,, The Journey Continues Here!

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TSraymond5105	Feb 26 2008, 09:04 PM, updated 18y ago Show posts by this member only \| Post #1
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	V6 continues at here. Previous thread has reach the 2500 posts. PROUD P4 478 USERS Pentium 4 'C' Northwood/Gallatin (30cappers)/Pentium 4-M 800FSB HT 1) siauann - 2.8C @ 3.71 \| Abit IC7-G \| Corsair XMS XPERT ddr530 \| Leadtek 6600GT 2) zeustronic - 2.8C @ 3.3 \| Asus P4S800 \| A-Data ddr400 512mb2 \| Palit Radeon X800 3) d3x - 2.8C @ 3.08 \| Asus P4P800 Deluxe \| Hynix ddr400 512mb2 \| Sapphire Radeon X1600Pro 4) kucingfight - 2.8C @ 3.8 \| Abit AI7 \| Infeneon CE5 ECC ddr400 1gb2 \| Galaxy 6600 5) KahLooN - 2.6C @ 3.25 \| Abit AI7 \| Team Xtreme 512mb x 2 \| HIS x1950pro AGP 6) evilnickwong - 2.4C @ 3.0 \| Asus P4P800-E Deluxe \| A-Data Vitesta ddr500 512mb2 \| Grandmars 6600GT 7) raymond5105 - 2.6C @ 3.315 \| Asus P4P800-X \| Hynix BT-J ddr400 256mb4 \| Leadtek FX5900 7) raymond5105 - 3.2C @ 3.68 \| Abit IC7-G \| Kingston Hynix BT-D43 ddr400 512mb2 \| Gecube 9550XT 8) saiaha - 3.06C @ 3.24 \| MSI Neo 2 \| OCZ ddr400 512mb2 \| GeCube Radeon 9600XT 9) mulut99 - 3.4GHz Extreme Edition @ stock \| P4P800SE \| Mushkin Level2 DDR434 512MB X 4 \| GeForce XFX 7900GS 10) toch3 - 2.4C @ stock \| MSI P4M800 \| Kingston ddr400 512+Apacer ddr400 512mb2 \| Gigabyte Radeon 9550 11) enter - 3.2C @ stock \| Intel D865GBF \| Kingston ddr400 256mb4 \| ATI Radeon 9550 12) choongkeat - 2.8C @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Corsair DDR400 512MB2 \| Sapphire ATI Radeon X1950Pro 512MB DDR3 13) Nostalgia - 2.8C @ 3.22 \| Asus P4P800 \| OCZ EL Platinum Rev.2.0 ddr400 512mb2 \| PowerColor Radeon 9800 Pro 14) allenultra - 2.8C @ 3.3 \| Abit AI7 \| Kingston Hynix ddr400 512mb2 \| HIS Radeon 9550 15) glo - 2.8C @ 3.4 \| Asus P4C800 Deluxe \| Kingston HyperX ddr400 512mb2 \| XFX 7800GS 16) glo - 2.8C @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Geil ddr400 1gb \| XFX 6600GT 17) shift - 2.8C @ stock \| MSI 848P Neo V \| Transcend ddr400 512mb \| nVidia FX5200 18) AREA51 - P4-M 2.2 @ 3.12 \| Asus P4P800-X \| Apacer UCCC ddr520 512mb2 \| Leadtek 6800NU 19) jayhan - 2.6C @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Apacer ddr400 512mb2 \| GeCube Radeon 9550XT 20) allenultra - 2.4C @ stock \| Intel D865PERL \| Kingston Hynix ddr400 512mb2 \| HIS Radeon 9550 21 iori_argami - 3.0C (es) @ stock \| Abit AI7 \| A-Data Vitesta ddr500 512mb2 \| Gigabyte Radeon 9600XT 22) altie - 2.6C @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Corsair XMS Pro LED ddr400 512mb2 \| Unika Radeon X800XT 22) altie - 2.8C @ stock \| MSI 865 Neo2 \| Kingston ddr400 512mb2 \| PowerColor Radeon 9800Pro 24) miraged - 2.4C @ 3.24 \| Asus P4P800-X \| Kingston HyperX ddr400 512mb2 \| ATI Radeon X800GTO 25) tyrion4 - 2.8C @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Corsair XMS ddr400 512mb2 \| ATI Radeon 9800Pro 26) momochi zabuza - 2.4C @ 3.0 \| Abit IS7-E \| Geil ddr400 512mb2 \| Galaxy Glacier 6800 27) kenling - 2.6C @ 3.2 \| MSI 865PE Neo 2-V \| Kingston ddr492 512mb2 \| Inno 3D 6600GT 28) almostthere - 2.8C @ 3.22 \| Abit IS7 rev. 1.0 \| 256Mb Infineon -5b2 \| GeForce FX5200 29) shinjite - 3.0GHz ES \| Abit IS7-E \| 2GB Aeneon DDR400 \| Leadtek NV FX5900XT 128MB 30) fo33il - 2.4c @ stock /color] \| [color=blue]Asus P4V8-X \| Kingston DDR400 512MB \| MSI nvidia Fx5200 31) merzchan - 2.4C \| Abit IS7-E \| 1.5 GB Kingston HyperX DDR400 RAM \| HIS Radeon 9600XT 128MB Turbo Edition 32)edministrator - 3.0C @ 3.3 \| Asus P4P800 \| APACER 512MB x 4 \| 7600GS DDR3 33)kabukiawie - 2.8C @ 3.36 \| Asus P4P800-X \| Kingmax 512mb 2 \| Galaxy 7300GT 34)ryu00717 - 2.8c @ stock \| Asus P4P800se \| Kingston pc3200 dual 1GB \| Sapphire X1650pro DDR3 35)busta_dude - P4 3.2GHz@ stock - ASUS P4P800-X - XFX 7800GS EE 36)carlito - 2.6C@stock \| Intel D865PERL \| kingston DDR400 5122 \| GeForce FX5200 37)speedguy10 - 2.8C @ stock \| MSI 865 Neo2 \| Geil DDR400 256mb2 \| MSI FX5200. 38)deale30 - 2.4C @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Kingston ddr400 256mb2 \| Sapphire ATI Radeon 9250 39)bunyani - 3.4C @ stock\| MSI 865PE Neo2-V\| Kingston Hyper-X ddr400 2Gb \| PowerColour Radeon X1650Pro 40)ravewar - 3.2GHz@stock\|INtel D865GBF\| Kingston XMS 2x512MB\| 9600PRO 41)ravewar - 2.4GHz@stock\|MSI P4M\| Corsair VS DDR400 512MB Pentium 4 'B' Northwood 533FSB 1) pengster - 2.4B @ 2.8 \| MSI Neo2-V \| Kingston ddr400 512mb2 \| Palit6800GS 2) gmail - 2.66B @ 3.2 \| Asus P4P800S-X \| Kingston ddr333 512mb \| Asus MX440 3) QD_buyer - 2.8B @ stock \| Asus P4V8X-MX \| Corsair XMS ddr400 512mb \| Sapphire Radeon X1600Pro 4) wk1168 - 2.66B @ stock \| Intel D865PERL \| Kingston ddr400 512mb2 \| Asus GeForce 3 5) kramuse - 2.4B @ stock \| MSI 645E Max-U SiS645DX \| Kingston ddr333 512mb \| MSI FX5700 6) rg470 - 2.4B @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Kingston ddr333 512mb2 \| EVGA 7600GS 7) helangkawi - 2.4B @ 3.06 \| Aopen AX4SPE-UN \| Kingston ddr400 512mb+Apacer ddr400 256mb \| GeCube Radeon 9550XT 8)Mooneyes - 2.4 GHz \| ASROCK P4VM890 \|KINGSTON KVR 512 X2\|GALAXY GEFORCE 7300GT 9)kevinwcw - 2.66GHz \| Gigabyte GA-81848P-G Mobo \| 1gb corsair value ram(512x2) \| Galaxy 6600GT 10)l3th9l - 2.4Ghz @ stock \| MSI 865PE NEO 2 \| Kingston DDR266 256MB x 2 \| MSI 256MB FX5600 11)zeipher - 2.4GHz @ 2.7Ghz \| Asus P4P800S-X \| 1x Kingston DDR333 512MB 1x Apacer DDR333 512MB \| MSI GeForce4200 Ti 12)Redundant - 2.4GHz @stock \| Intel 845PESV \| 2 512mb Kingston DDR333 \| Asus ATI 9550GE 256MB 13)HMMaster - 2.4GHz @ 2.7GHz \| MSI 865PE Neo2-PLS \| 2x 512mb DDR400 Kingston \| xpertvision Geforce 6600 14)astria - 2.4GHz @ 2.75GHz \| MSI MS-7031 \| 768MB DDR400 \|Sapphire X1950GT GDDR3 Pentium 4 'A' Northwood/Willamette 400FSB 1) hyperyouth_firepower - 2.4A @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Air ddr333 256mb2 \| His Radeon X1300 2) polisdirajasarawak - 1.8A @ stock \| Lite-On i845 \| Advance Module ddr266 512mb \| PowerColor Bravo Radeon 9600Pro 3) hihihehe - 2.8A @ stock \| Acer E61ML \| Apacer ddr400 512mb+Transcend ddr400 256 \| MSI 6600 4)Nemesis181188 1.8GHz/Asus P4P800 Deluxe/2x512mb Kingston/ Powercolor 9600pro 5)randoll - 2.8A @ stock \| Asus P4P800 \| Kingston 512mb2 Apacer 256mb2 \| XFX 7600GS 6)takezo88 - 1.7GHz \| asrock pmvm800 \| corsair 512mb 400 MHz \| ABIT 9600 xt 7)dlwl \| 2.0 GHz @ stock \| Soltek 845G \|512MB SD RAM \| AOpen Geforce 6200 256MB modded to 8 pipelines Pentium 4 'E' Prescott 800FSB HT 1) Mowgli - 3.0E @ 3.75 \| Asus P4P800-E Deluxe \| Team X-Treem TCCD ddr600 512mb2 \| XFX 6800NU 2) sHawTY - 3.0E @ 4.00 \| Asus P4C800-E Deluxe \| Kingston ddr534 512mb2 \| ATI Radeon X1300 3) hurricane21 - 3.0E @ stock \| Abit AI7 \| Kingston HyperX ddr400 256mb2 \| Sapphire Radeon X1600Pro 4) mulut99 - 3.0E @ stock \| Asus P4C800 Deluxe \| Mushkin Enhance LVL2 ddr440 512mb2 \| nVidia 7800GS 5) ReaperOfSoul - 2.8E @ 3.08 \| Asrock P4i65G \| Kingston ddr440 512mb2 \| ATI X800GTO 6) tompok82 - 3.0E @ 3.75 \| Asus P4C800 Deluxe \| Kingston ddr500 512mb2 \| ATI Radeon X1300 7) barry80 - 2.8E @ stock \| MSI 865PE PLS \| Corsair ddr400 512mb2+256mb2 \| PoweColor Radeon 9600Pro 8) xinghuei - 3.2E @ stock \| DFI PT880ELF \| Corsair ddr400 512mb2 \| ATI Radeon 9200SE 9) wk1168 - 3.0E @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Corsair ddr400 512mb2 \| MSI 6600 Diamond 10) SkyDriver - 2.8E @ stock \| MSI PM8M-V \| Kingston Hynix ddr400 512mb2 \| Colorful X700 11) apexi78 - 2.8E @ stock \| Abit IC7-G \| Corsair XL Pro ddr400 512mb2 \| nVidia 7800GS 12) kcng - 2.8E @ stock \| Asus P4P8X \| Corsair XMS ddr400 256mb4 \| Leadtek 6600GT 13) Hitman66 - 3.0E @ stock \| Gigabyte GA-8I848P-G \| Kingston ddr400 512mb2 \| nVidia 6800XT 14) maxlim - 3.0E @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Corsair ddr400 512mb2 \| MSI 6600GT 15) kcng - 2.8E @ stock \| Asus P4P8-X \| Corsair XMS ddr400 256mb4 \| Leadtek 6600GT 16) kenling - 3.4E @ stock \| Abit IS7-E \| Kingston D43 ddr400 512mb2 \| BFG 6800Ultra OC 17) alexandros_18th - P4 3.0E @ Stock \| Asrock P4i65G \| Apacer 512 + Kingston 256 DDR400 \| Galaxy 7300GT 18)Fylon - 3.2E @ 4.017 \| Asus P4P800SE \| Patriot PDP Extreme Performance PC4200 512MB2 \| XFX GeFroce 6800GT 19)sang_karim - 3.0E @ 3.8\| Asus P4P800-SE \|OCZ Platinum PC3200 512MB x 2 \| 128 ATI RADEON 9250 \| 20)GCI99 - 3.0E @ 3.22 HT \| 2 1GB Kingston PC3200\|P4P800 - Duluxe\|6800 GT. 21)khai84siong - 3.0E@stock\| ASUS P4P800\| Mushkin PC3200 Black lvl 2 2512MB \| XFX 7600GT 22) overclockalbert - 2.8E @ 3.8 \| Abit IC7 \| Elpida 512X2 \| Palit 6800GS 23)axern959 - 3.0E @ stock \| MSI PM8M-V \| Kingston DDR400 1GB + 256MB \| Leadtek Winfast 7600GT 24)herojack41 - 2.8E @ stock \| P4P800SE \| Kingston DDR400 1024MB \| Nvidia Geforce 6200A-Le 25)icp - 3.0E@stock \| MSI 865PE Neo2-PS \| Kingston DDR400 5122 \| ATI Radeon 9600XT 26)Ryeeson- 3.0 E @ stock \| ASUS P4P800 SE \|Kingstone DDR400 512mb4 \|XFX6600GT 27)joellim - 2.8E @ 3.3 \| ASRock P4i65G \| 2 * 512MB KVR \|HiS ATi X1650 Pro IceQ 28)sniperz11 - 3.0E @ 3.3 \| Asus P4P800-X \| Kingston 512Mb x 2 \| HIS ATi Radeon x1650xt 29)Tanakwagu_noh - 2.8E @ 3.75 \| Asus P4P800 Deluxe \| Kingstom ddr400 1GB4 \| Nvidia Geforce 6600 30)bai1101 - 3.0E @ stock \| P4p800X \| DDR400 1 GB \| 6600GT 128MB 31)helangkawi - 3.0GHz @ stock \| MSI 875P NEO2 \| Kingston Value Ram DDR400 1GB \| Nvidia Quadro 4 580XGL 32)helangkawi - 3.0GHz @ stock \| Biostar P4M900-M4 \| Corsair Value Ram DDR667 2GB \| Gigabyte 8800GTS G80 32)stealth89 - 3.00GHz @ Stock \| Intel D865PERL \| 512MB Kingston DDR400 x4 \| WinFast GeForce 7600GT 33) sheeeng - 3.00GHz @ Stock \| VIA P4M800 Pro/P4M800 CE/VN800/CN700 \| 512MB DDR333\| VIA/S3G UniChrome Pro IGP 34)Jcsy - 3.0GHz@ stock \| DFI 865PE \| 3072MB RAM \| HIS IceQII Radeon X800Pro 35)emy_xvidia - 3.0GHz@ stock \| Gigabyte 865G \|Kingston Hyper 1 X 1.0GB DDR400 \| Gigabyte 7600GT 35)The Silent Killer - 3.0GHz @ stock \| Asus P4P800 \| Corsair DDR400 512MB X2 \| ATI RADEON 9250 36)llutephie - 3.2GHz @ stock \| MSI-7104 VIA P4M800 Pro \| Kingston 400 21GB \| ATI Radeon HD3850 AGP Pentium 4 'A' Prescott 533FSB 1) kabukiawie - 2.4A @ 3.0 \| Asus P4P800-X \| Kingmax ddr400 512mb2 \| MSI Radeon 9800Pro 2) Freak` - 2.4A @ stock \| Abit IS7-E \| Kingston ddr400 512mb+256mb \| Asus Radeon 9200SE 3) iman_210 - 2.4A @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Kingston Hynix ddr400 512mb2 \| XFX 6600GT 4) mr_habuk - 2.4A @ stock \| Intel D865PERL \| Kingston ddr400 512mb2 \| GeCube Radeon 9550XT 5) nelza_ax - 2.4A @ 3.95 \| Abit IS7-EG2 \| Kingston DT-D43 ddr400 512mb \| MSI 6200 6) ToGo - 2.4A @ 3.0 \| Asus P4P800-E Deluxe \| Corsair VS ddr400 512mb2 \| Asus Radeon 9600XT 7) swhung - 2.4A @ 2.73 \| Gigabyte 8VM533M-RZ \| Kingston ddr333 512mb+Hynix ddr266 128mb \| PowerColor Radeon 9550 8) apek - 2.4A @ 2.73 \| Asus P4P800-X \| Kingston ddr400 512mb2 \| GeCube Radeon X1600Pro 9) apek - 2.8A @ stock \| Intel D865PERL \| Transcend ddr400 512mb2 \| Galaxy 6800NU 10) RokXIII - 2.4A @ 3.0 \| MSI i865PE Neo-2 \| Corsair ddr400 512mb \| Sapphire Radeon 9550PE 11) GameSky - 2.4A @ stock \| Asus P4V8X-X \| Apacer ddr333 512mb+Kingston ddr333 512mb \| ATI Radeon 9200SE 12)0168257061 - 2.4A @ stock \|Asus P4VP-MX \| 1GB DDR 266 RAM \| Gecube 9550 Extreme 256MB DDR2 Pentium M Dothan CTP-479 1) cycquest - 750 1.86 @ stock \| Asus P4P800-E Deluxe CTP-479 \| Apacer ddr400 512mb \| eVGA 6800Ultra 2)astria - 725 1.6GHz @ stock \| Intel 915GMS Express Chipset \| DDR333 2512MB \|Graphic Media Accelerator 900 Added on August 28, 2007, 10:21 am QUOTE(nelza_ax @ Jan 2 2007, 11:09 PM) USEFUL INFO FOR P4 478? Details of your P4 CPU Check all the P4 siblings n details n type of the cpu at the link above? Info share from wikipedia. Added on August 28, 2007, 10:24 am QUOTE(nelza_ax @ Jan 2 2007, 11:09 PM) Let's compete against each other for our old skool P4 478 machine...our machine can't compare wif those X2, FX, C2D.... P4 478 HALL OF FAME [TOP 20]* SUPER PI 1M 01. fylon - 3.2 @4.017GHz- 251MHz @2.5-3-3-8 - 33.532s 02. sang_karim 3.0GHz @3.8GHz - 254MHz @ 2.5-3-3-7 34.875s 03. nelza_ax - 2.4 @ 4.05GHz - 225.5MHz @ 2.5-3-3-7 - 35.641s 04. siauann - 2.8 @ 3.78GHz - 270.2MHz @ 2.5-3-3-6 - 36.64s 05. raymond5105 - 3.2 @ 3.68GHz - 230.3MHz @ 3-4-4-8 - 37.592s 06. colinwong89 - 3.0 @ 3.6GHz - 240MHz @ 2.5-4-3-7 - 37.968s 07. tyrion4 - 2.8 @ 3.78GHz - 216.4MHz @ 2.5-4-4-8 -? 39.641s 08. KahLooN - 2.6 @ 3.38GHz - 225MHz @ 2-3-3-5 - 39.953s 09. kabukiawie - 2.8 @ 3.29GHz - 235MHz @ 2-3-3-5 - 40.516s 10. RokXIII - 2.4 @ 3.23GHz - 168MHz @ 2-3-3-5 - 41.938s 11. kabukiawie - 2.8@3.361GHz 240MHz- 2.5-3-3-7 - 42.672s 12. khai84siong 3.0GHz@3.307GHz@ 220MHz @ 43s 13. ReaperOfSoul 2.8GHz @3.08GHz 220MHz @45.485s 14. choongkeat? 2.8GHz@stock - 200MHz - 2.5-3-3-8 -53.781s 15. pengster 2.4@2.7GHz @ 2.5-3-3-7 @ 150MHz - 56s . NORTHWOOD . PRESSCOTT SiSANDRA LITE 2007 . PROCESSOR ARITHMETIC 01. raymond5105 - 3.2 @ 3.68GHz - 9486 02. sang_karim- 3.0 @ 3.8GHz -9173 03. fylon - 3.0@ 3.6GHz - 9108 04. RokXIII - 2.4 @ 3.23GHz - 7262 05. choongkeat - 2.8@stock - 7149 06. kabukiawie - 2.4 @ 3.02GHz - 6780 07. pengster - 2.4@ 2.7GHz -5686 . MEMORY BANDWIDTH 01. sang_karim - 3.0@3.8GHz @254MHz @ 2.5-3-3-7 - 5985 02. raymond5105 - 3.2 @ 3.68GHz @ 230MHz @ 3-4-4-8 - 5525 03. fylon - 3.2@3.75GHz @235MHz - 2.5-3-3-6 5500 04. kabukiawie - 2.8 @ 3.36GHz? @ 240MHz @ 2-3-3-6 - 4974 05. RokXIII - 2.4 @ 3.23GHz @ 225MHz @ 2-3-3-5 - 4132 06. choongkeat- 2.8GHz @ stock @ 200MHz @ 2.5-3-3-8 - 3690 07. pengster - 2.4 - 2.7GHz @150MHz @ - 3247 . NORTHWOOD . PRESSCOTT P4 478/479 benchies. Link to V2 thread... Link to V3 thread... Link to V4 thread... Link to V5 thread... This post has been edited by raymond5105: Sep 23 2008, 08:45 AM
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Tanakwagu_noh	Feb 26 2008, 09:27 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #2
Photographer Senior Member 866 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: "Pak Pak Kangku Noh"	Bro, pls include my name on Pentium 4 'C' Prescott 800FSB HT member. 1)Tanakwagu_noh - 2.8C @ 3.75 \| Asus P4P800 Deluxe \| Kingstom ddr400 1GB*4 \| Nvidia Geforce 6600 my old rig that hold my torrent and downloading machine..
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sang_karim	Feb 26 2008, 09:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #3
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(Tanakwagu_noh @ Feb 26 2008, 09:27 PM) Bro, pls include my name on Pentium 4 'C' Prescott 800FSB HT member. 1)Tanakwagu_noh - 2.8C @ 3.75 \| Asus P4P800 Deluxe \| Kingstom ddr400 1GB*4 \| Nvidia Geforce 6600 my old rig that hold my torrent and downloading machine.. u running on 4Gb ram? i've never seen that b4 ... very2 nice dude ...
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edministrator	Feb 26 2008, 10:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #4
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Tanakwagu_noh, 4GB? Don't you feel the 4GB a bit wasted by our x86 CPU that cannot utilise the additional RAM above 3GB? :-)
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TSraymond5105	Feb 26 2008, 10:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #5
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(Tanakwagu_noh @ Feb 26 2008, 09:27 PM) Bro, pls include my name on Pentium 4 'C' Prescott 800FSB HT member. 1)Tanakwagu_noh - 2.8C @ 3.75 \| Asus P4P800 Deluxe \| Kingstom ddr400 1GB*4 \| Nvidia Geforce 6600 my old rig that hold my torrent and downloading machine.. I've added your list under E class since it's a prescott core.Welcome to the club. QUOTE(edministrator @ Feb 26 2008, 10:09 PM) @Tanakwagu_noh, 4GB? Don't you feel the 4GB a bit wasted by our x86 CPU that cannot utilise the additional RAM above 3GB? :-) 4GB in S478 is really rare,this is the first time i see 4GB.But his rig is a bit wasted as it's just a torrent & downloading machine only. Nice mobo and proc for o/c.
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fylon	Feb 26 2008, 10:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #6
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Woah woah woah.. Just away for few hours and V6 is created! Still raymond be the boss! Good good.. Old dude! Btw.. 4GB for torrenting? Is a big waste man!! If the 4GB given to Edmin.. Cant imagine how he gonna torture his rig again!
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edministrator	Feb 26 2008, 10:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #7
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Feb 26 2008, 10:39 PM) Woah woah woah.. Just away for few hours and V6 is created! Still raymond be the boss! Good good.. Old dude! Btw.. 4GB for torrenting? Is a big waste man!! If the 4GB given to Edmin.. Cant imagine how he gonna torture his rig again! fylon, if 4x1GB throw 2 me, i will do the following: 1. give u 1GB 2. give kabu 1GB 3. I take the rest, assemble a new s478 rig. 4GB sayang coz x86 CPU can only address 3GB max in OS. This post has been edited by edministrator: Feb 26 2008, 10:51 PM
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fylon	Feb 26 2008, 10:57 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #8
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@edmin Haha.. Pity i my mobo dont have slot already. Oh yea.. Kinda waste 4GB on P4. How was everyone? Lol..
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sang_karim	Feb 26 2008, 11:29 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #9
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	oredi try to install latest driver from ati website ... download for windows xp professional/home and didn't work ... also ati tools by ray adams .. keep pop up sumkind address error when start windows ... i geuss stick with the old driver ... .. guys, i'm trying to make partition for my Sata hdd ... should be at command prompt type fdisk rite? i've try but not working .. any clue?
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TSraymond5105	Feb 26 2008, 11:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #10
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Wao,ATI card really not that user freindly on their drivers. Las time i was headache with the driver too!
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sHawTY	Feb 26 2008, 11:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #11
Frequent Reporter All Stars 14,909 posts Joined: Jul 2005	Wow V6 already? I'm surprised!
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barry80	Feb 27 2008, 12:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #12
Casual Junior Member 490 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: Somewhere I belong	gosh! it reached v6 already just got my old s478 a final "upgrade" b4 the chinese new year. mobo changed to msi 865pe-p platinum; stock cooling changed to gigabyte g-power(reapply arctic cooling MX-2 thermal paste); 1.5G ram to 2G; chieftec 310w pure psu changed to silverstone st50f; cap ayam casing to CM690(4 X coolermaster sleeve bearing 12cm fans + 1 vantec double ball bearing 12cm fan); coolermaster CCFL X 2 & the rest remain the same as my xfire sig. but still, the temperature of the prescott aka "preshot" only manage to bring down 10C'+
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Ezonizs	Feb 27 2008, 12:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #13
~~Freak~~ Senior Member 1,055 posts Joined: Sep 2007 From: Subang Jaya	lol in a month ++ V5 now V6 congratz
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ac_N1	Feb 27 2008, 12:10 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #14
brotherhood of the leaves Senior Member 1,029 posts Joined: Apr 2007 From: All Blue	Waa... V6 edi Old skool rigs still rocks
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sniperz11	Feb 27 2008, 03:04 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #15
Casual Junior Member 400 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: KL	Yaaaa, still rock...
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kabukiawie	Feb 27 2008, 06:50 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #16
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	wow!! V6!!!!! i cant believe my eyes... haha......it smells new in this new thread. i like it. hohoho.... @Ed haha.... the 1gb you "gave" me will be in my socketA. my 478 out of slot already. @sang whats wrong with your card?? for the partitioning, if not for windows, then try use computer management>disk management. or use partition magic. if just want to install new windows on the sata hdd, then create the partition when installing windows. @Ray OT:hows your 9550?? i recently got a gecube 9550 256mb for my socket A. the score seems a bit low i think. 3dmark01 = almost 9k(expecting near 10k) 3dmark03 = 3.3k+-(expecting near 4k) currently running at 464/340. i checked already, it seems i have 2.5ns ddr2 hynix ram but it cant pass 350. i saw alot of 9550 user can easily push the core above 500 and ran above 700. hmm..... here's the atitool screeny... have you ever think of flashing it to 9600pro or xt?? mine is r360(96xt core)... hand a bit itchy... keke... p.s. i know is off topic, just tumpang thread awhile. This post has been edited by kabukiawie: Feb 27 2008, 07:05 AM
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fylon	Feb 27 2008, 09:38 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #17
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@sang_karim Hm.. If need a user friendly type of software to make partition. U may can have try on norton partition magic. It does a good job thou. @sHawTY Lol.. Did u see any other old school which can survive up to 6 thread? @barry80 Dude.. Thats is not little upgrade eh. Cooler, PSU, add ram, 690 casing! One of our fav case in this thread. Nice upgrade bro! Seems like old school still been treating good. @Ezonizs, ac_N1 & sniperz11 Old school spirit still rocking @ss man! @kabukiawie GC modding again? Btw.. Sang's 96PRO ram only run at 200. Dont it think can been flash to XT thou. 100mhz pump is away too much. But heck.. My previous old 98PRO was a gem.. No sweat from PRO spec flash to XT and able to push up until 800mhz memory & 500mhz for core.
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TSraymond5105	Feb 27 2008, 11:05 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #18
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Feb 27 2008, 06:50 AM) wow!! V6!!!!! i cant believe my eyes... haha......it smells new in this new thread. i like it. hohoho.... @Ed haha.... the 1gb you "gave" me will be in my socketA. my 478 out of slot already. @sang whats wrong with your card?? for the partitioning, if not for windows, then try use computer management>disk management. or use partition magic. if just want to install new windows on the sata hdd, then create the partition when installing windows. @Ray OT:hows your 9550?? i recently got a gecube 9550 256mb for my socket A. the score seems a bit low i think. 3dmark01 = almost 9k(expecting near 10k) 3dmark03 = 3.3k+-(expecting near 4k) currently running at 464/340. i checked already, it seems i have 2.5ns ddr2 hynix ram but it cant pass 350. i saw alot of 9550 user can easily push the core above 500 and ran above 700. hmm..... here's the atitool screeny... have you ever think of flashing it to 9600pro or xt?? mine is r360(96xt core)... hand a bit itchy... keke... p.s. i know is off topic, just tumpang thread awhile. Kabu,my 9550 is not really good also.I can set my card runs at 500/700 to run 3D mark 03 and i got nearly 4.4k. Then later try to run only get nearly 4k. Both proc and Gc is already overclock. My version is using DDR2 also.I do notice from other forum saying that this batch of 9550 with DDr2 can go above 500/700 but i can't go beyond that. Benchmarking is benchmarking,my stupid ATI driver loves to jump back to default speed when i'm playing games.My screen will freeze awhile when it's setting back to the default speed. ATI card not really stable and good in my opinion. Added on February 27, 2008, 11:06 am@fylon,9600 also has 2 types. One is real pro and one is not the real pro. Real pro is running on 400/600 on stock. This post has been edited by raymond5105: Feb 27 2008, 11:06 AM
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kabukiawie	Feb 27 2008, 11:07 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #19
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	maybe need some extra cooling lo..... hmm..... i thought sang's 96pro is having 300mhz ram. maybe is the the other edition of 96pro. hmm..... have think of flashing to 9600pro or xt. hehe..... @ray wao..... 4k ooo......i not yet try with game yet. yesterday i keep finding the max core and mem, end up cant even get close to 500 core. i think my rig bottlenecking the performance. axp2000+ stock with 512ram @ddr266. well.... just oc for fun. This post has been edited by kabukiawie: Feb 27 2008, 12:59 PM
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TSraymond5105	Feb 27 2008, 01:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #20
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@kabu,9600pro or XT is really nothing compare to those 6 series GC.Becareful if you want to flasg your card.Make sure the bios you use is corect.If you wnat 96Xt speed,just o/c it to 500/700.It's the same in performance.For ATI tools,don't use the auto detect for finding the max core and max mem. speed. The software is not accurate one.I guess your proc sure bottleneck a bit on your gc,but it's still acceptable.About my card cooling,it comes with a huge heatsink fan on the card same like those on 9600XT,but seems like useless.
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fylon	Feb 27 2008, 02:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #21
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@kabukiawie Lol.. Now changing to GC topics again? Ya socket A also on OC mode? Really hardcore.. All ur rigs been OC. @Ray Ic.. Hm.. Not really know about ATI stuff eventhough i had use it for past a year. Btw, i never use software OC for my previous 9550 and 9800. I used to used soft modded by dump the original bios of the card then mod it and reflash it back again. Play safe without flashing in other card bios in.
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herojack41	Feb 27 2008, 04:15 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #22
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	long live intel p4 478 socket btw guys...just got my HDD cooler....i still duno da temperature yet...just reformat comp
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TSraymond5105	Feb 27 2008, 04:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #23
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon,actually last time my brother mis-flash bios into his MSI 9550 and end up can't boot up. But somehow he used a PCI base card to boot up his pc,then log into Windows to re-flash the 9550.Then the 9550 was alive again.I also not sure how's the way he did it.My younger brother is indeed more superior than me. Hehe.
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edministrator	Feb 27 2008, 04:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #24
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Feb 27 2008, 04:28 PM) @fylon,actually last time my brother mis-flash bios into his MSI 9550 and end up can't boot up. But somehow he used a PCI base card to boot up his pc,then log into Windows to re-flash the 9550.Then the 9550 was alive again.I also not sure how's the way he did it.My younger brother is indeed more superior than me. Hehe. i tried a trick before to solve similar issue with yours. It is called 'blind flash'. Powderful.
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sang_karim	Feb 27 2008, 04:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #25
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Feb 27 2008, 04:28 PM) @fylon,actually last time my brother mis-flash bios into his MSI 9550 and end up can't boot up. But somehow he used a PCI base card to boot up his pc,then log into Windows to re-flash the 9550.Then the 9550 was alive again.I also not sure how's the way he did it.My younger brother is indeed more superior than me. Hehe. actually i have read bout that sumwhere last nite .... if u flash with wrong bios, u have to use other pci gc and then flash back the back up bios for the gc .. for expert, it's gonna be easy i think ... but i don't think that i dare to do that ...
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kabukiawie	Feb 27 2008, 04:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #26
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon not hardcore la, just curious that how well this gc will go. i cant oc my axp. i wish i have a nf2 mobo... oc for fun only, i think after this i will run it at stock. hehehe.... for long term use.
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fylon	Feb 27 2008, 06:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #27
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Just finished 3 C&C 3 NOD mission. Gosh.. Now then i feel the pain of gaming at high resolution. Currently run C&C at 1280*1024 full high resolution. Feel the pain when whole bunch of army and car rush at a time. Need some powderful GC now.. @raymond5105 Yea.. But provided u owned at PCI card on hand 1st. Otherwise, never try this trick or else ur card will end with wrong bios been flashed. @edministrator Blink flash? Meaning flashing the card without the monitor? Thats what i can think off. Mind explain it? @Kabu Lol.. All got OC. Not bad lo.. But rarely too see Socket A user around now. P4 still strong yet Socket seems like disappear already.
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TSraymond5105	Feb 27 2008, 06:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #28
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@edmin,oh blind flash.But sadly i'm not familiar with it.Else i can share with you all. @sang,I heard my brother said it's pretty safe and easy to do it.Before flashing any bios,make sure it's compatible or lese just softmod them.Softmod is the safest way. @kabu,NF2 mobo.Once a legendary mobo with good o/c.Now quite hard to get the mobo even 2nd hand. Added on February 27, 2008, 6:49 pm@fylon,want to let go your 7600GT again? This post has been edited by raymond5105: Feb 27 2008, 06:49 PM
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edministrator	Feb 27 2008, 06:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #29
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	blind flash is a simple method of having a backup copy of the bios copy with an autoexec.bat that will autoflash with backup bios copy when your system boots. No need for PCI card. btw, nf2 was previously reign supreme that topples the sales of i845 and i865 mobo. i love the nf2, especially the ones that comes with soundstorm. SWEET. @fylon, u do not need a more powerful card for cnc3. trust me, its the CPU bottleneck. tried running high details on an AMD A64, 2GB DDR400 and 7600GT AGP before. butter smooth with lots of AI units on screen. This post has been edited by edministrator: Feb 27 2008, 07:04 PM
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KahLooN	Feb 27 2008, 07:01 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #30
~(^^)~ Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Cheras	Wowo, V6 already. Cool, we still can survive very long. That is a good point for our old school rigs. @ray Looking for new card? Hehe.
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fylon	Feb 27 2008, 07:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #31
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@raymond5105 Lol.. No la! This will be the last upgrade already.. Unless can find 79GS with RM200 then upgrade again. But that will be in dream lo.. @edministrator Ic.. Thanks for telling me about. Learning something new again. Ic.. still thought can get a good fps when gaming with 76GT & 2GB of ram. Who knows.. Gotta clock more!! After changed all the thermal paste and rearrange my cable and then plus in some DIY fan. My GC temp drop by 2'c.. Is now run cooler then my procs. My cooler lacking of high cfm now.. Temp on idle @ 3.68'c around 41-43'c.. @KahLooN Wanna let go ur X1950PRO to ray? I guess ray gonna get crazy if u sell it to him. Haha..
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KahLooN	Feb 27 2008, 09:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #32
~(^^)~ Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Cheras	@fylon Haha, if i sell my card to him then i no need use also. Currently the card already come back from warranty and i haven't had any time to claim it back. Probably this coming friday will go lowyat. Also try change to a noisier fan such as the delta, LOL. Sure will decrease the temp.
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TSraymond5105	Feb 27 2008, 09:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #33
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon,79GS for RM200 i think that will be only happened after 2 to 3 years i guess.Then your 7600GT would be properly less than RM100 during that time. @kahloon,your X1950pro really a great card.No need to o/c playing games at stock speed can feel the power already. By right now you are the king here in GC as your card is the strongest among all. @edmin,that's for explaining the blind flash method.But my brother wasn't using this way to flash back the bios.
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Redundant	Feb 27 2008, 10:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #34
Gundam Freak Senior Member 1,713 posts Joined: Feb 2005	guys, i see tat u all love to OC your p4 rigs... too bad im on an intel board where the proc speed is locked... there is one thing tat i can change though, the RAM timings... i hav a pair of mixed KVR DDR333(hynix) and DDR400(kingston), wonder if i make them run at 2-3-2-6? is it safe to do so? will it burn my rams / mobo? thnx again sifus =)
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kabukiawie	Feb 27 2008, 10:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #35
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon my axp no oc(no chance), but i oc the gc. i oc my p4, downclock 73gt(no choice). wahahaha..... @Edmin you reminds me your quadro last time. wahahahaha..... blind bet + blind flash. @redundant it wont burn if running at that timing, but i think it hardly run at that tight timing unless your ddr333 hynix ram is CL2 high performance ram. correct me if wrong.
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fylon	Feb 27 2008, 10:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #36
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@raymond5105 Dont think in another 2 years time 79GS will drop and hit RM200 price thou. Until now.. A normal entry level 9550 also cost around 150 lo.. Haha! @KahLooN Haha.. Delta fan? Gosh! That is a kill man. Cant tahan for the noise. Ever saw my cousin use it on XP90 with fan control and run full speed! Phew.. The sounds is killing. But nice performance. @Redundant Owh? Then ya DDR400 only run at DDR333. Abit waste. Btw, make sure ur ram can cap the CL2. Normally VR are clocked to hold CL3 or CL2.5 thou. CL2 is kinda tight. If both of ur ram cannot take this timing after u set it, ur mobo wont get bootup. But fear not, just switch off everything and take off the bios battery to reset it. @Kabu Lol.. both of ur rigs ge vice versa. Able try to slot ur 73GT to ur Axp? Can that mobo hold the factory default clock speed? Hm.. Was wander how come P4P800-X were having alot of compatible issues. Ram ratio, GC speed.. This post has been edited by fylon: Feb 27 2008, 10:38 PM
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ReaperOfSoul	Feb 27 2008, 10:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #37
On my way Senior Member 648 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: TTDI	Hi!! Long time nv visit this thread liao Please update my details: Pentium 4 'E' Prescott 800FSB HT 5)ReaperOfSoul - 2.8E @ stock \| Intel D865GBF \| Kingston ddr440 512mb2 \| ATI Radeon 9550 to 5)ReaperofSoul- 2.8E @ 3.08 \| Asrock P4i65G \| Kingston DDR 400 512mb2 \| ATI X800GTO 400/700 @ 430/779 All on stock cooling Attached thumbnail(s)
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fylon	Feb 27 2008, 10:43 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #38
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@ReaperOfSoul Hi.. Welcome back to visit this thread. Btw.. Ur proc temp seems scary abit. Ever think off get a better cooler?
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ReaperOfSoul	Feb 27 2008, 10:44 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #39
On my way Senior Member 648 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: TTDI	Scary meh 51 C only wor...the 78C one someone told me its nothing ..
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kabukiawie	Feb 27 2008, 10:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #40
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon haha... dont want la....lazy to cabut test. and 73gt is bottlenecking the gc, no point. not p4p800x having prob, is me out of luck. @reaperofsoul at 51C is still acceptable but keep an eye on the temp. even though not too high but need attention. if got chance, grab a 3rd party hfs to tamp the temp down. i believe you will enjoy the cooler cpu temp and quieter experience.
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TSraymond5105	Feb 27 2008, 11:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #41
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@ReaperOfSoul,already editted your profile in the list. Long time didn't see you ehre.You already sold off your intel mobo? @fylon,what i mean is after 3 years the value of 2nd 79GS become RM200 like that. @Redundant,you may try the timing with 2.5-3-3-5. I bet your mobo and proc sure will be stalbe with this speed.But gain of performance is not significant.CL 2 on your RAM may cause BSOD as hynix don't prefer tight timing at higher frequency.
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kabukiawie	Feb 27 2008, 11:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #42
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@raymond after 3 years, i would get 1950pro or 3xxx agp version la... haha... cheap also that time.
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Redundant	Feb 27 2008, 11:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #43
Gundam Freak Senior Member 1,713 posts Joined: Feb 2005	currenly set to 2-3-3-6... boots up okay... tried running warcraft 3 dota AI... no probs for the whole game... means i can stay with it? can i try 2-3-3-5 now? p/s: i bought the ddr400 coz it's cheaper than the ddr333 at tat time... and also becoz my i845 mobo only supports up to ddr333 =/
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kabukiawie	Feb 27 2008, 11:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #44
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	if no problem then everything is fine, but you can check the stability with orthos or memtest for the ram. if fail try loosen the timing.
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Redundant	Feb 27 2008, 11:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #45
Gundam Freak Senior Member 1,713 posts Joined: Feb 2005	can i just test it with everest's system stability stress test? =)
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TSraymond5105	Feb 27 2008, 11:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #46
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@Redundant ,good to see you can run with CL 2 ...2-3-3-6 and 2-3-3-5 doesn't show much different.No need to run everest already i think.Keep on playing games then you will know your RAM stable or not.
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barry80	Feb 27 2008, 11:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #47
Casual Junior Member 490 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: Somewhere I belong	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Feb 27 2008, 09:20 PM) @kahloon,your X1950pro really a great card.No need to o/c playing games at stock speed can feel the power already. By right now you are the king here in GC as your card is the strongest among all. lol TS, u forgot there actually got 2 S478 user is currently using X1950pro. 1 is kahloon for his legendary HIS ati agp & the other 1 is...me, on powercolor but i agree with u, kahloon still the king for his HIS QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Feb 27 2008, 11:08 PM) after 3 years, i would get 1950pro or 3xxx agp version la... haha... cheap also that time. yeah, at that time we can all upgrade to 3xxx agp liao who know those ati partner won't come out new series of 5xxx; 6xxx; 8xxx; 9xxx; Xxxx in agp. by that time, our S478 still survive kah ?
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fylon	Feb 27 2008, 11:57 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #48
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Woah.. New thread hit 3 page at a day. Not bad! @ReaperOfSoul Well.. For me it was. Im very concern with my rigs temp. Even a rise of 1-2'c also will make take action already. Well.. Burnt few components before thus I'm very alert to temp. @kabukiawie Haha.. Lol! Btw, ur axp is running on AGP 8x or 4x? I still remember my 98PRO were sold to the owner with AGP 4x and cant use the card end up he resell the card again. duh.. Owh? ATI 3xxx card? Wish nvidia has 8xxx for AGP. But then, sure CPU bottleneck alot in gaming. No point to get such an high end card but the CPU bottleneck it. By the, provided the GC comes with HDMI then can use for movieee!! HTPC! @Ray Hm.. Might be. But in this comming years i think AGP still owned his place in the market thou. Seems like ATI still coming out with AGP so probably the value of AGP wont drop that fast. And also, nvidia are alway a head further stable then ATI their might be higher.
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sniperz11	Feb 28 2008, 12:55 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #49
Casual Junior Member 400 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: KL	QUOTE(barry80 @ Feb 27 2008, 11:40 PM) by that time, our S478 still survive kah ? Hehehe... I hope so...
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kabukiawie	Feb 28 2008, 06:55 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #50
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon my mobo only support till 4x. cant expect much from a via kt266 mobo la. nvidia already chop off the agp line for its new series. i dont think in the future they will produce agp card anymore. @barry i believe so. just assuming. cause now ati still come out with 3xxx series for agp, in future maybe no more agp. agp users still will be around i believe. some of my friend still using socketA and even PIII for normal office work. depends on what purpose la.
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TSraymond5105	Feb 28 2008, 08:50 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #51
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@barry80,your list haven't up to date yet. The list is showing you on 9600pro. Now already change to X1950 pro ? @kabu,VIA KT266 is already very very old already.I think your mobo is at least 8 years old now.Nice to see your mobo can serve you that long.I think in future the AGP users might just serve the AGP machines as secondary for movies,BTing,light gaming like that...So AGP users will still able to survive in this few years.
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kabukiawie	Feb 28 2008, 10:10 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #52
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@ray wahaha.... i know is old. mine is combo somemore! can run sdram. well.... it still rock stable. kekeke.... i salvaged from a friend cause he upgrade his pc. good for torrenting lo. like i say, depends on what we use on the pc. if not heavy use, even after 2 more years our 478 rig still going strong for torrenting, watch movie, listen mp3 etc. This post has been edited by kabukiawie: Feb 28 2008, 10:13 AM
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fylon	Feb 28 2008, 10:58 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #53
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@kabukiawie & Barry Haha.. For now, atleast ATI still giving AGP user some favor thou. Anyways, hope in the coming year, ATI AGP got price slash! Im going to LYP next week, try see survey the ATI 3000series card price. Well kabu, atleast u got a torrent machine man.. I got torrent with my main rigs. Anyways, on my way to get a Celeron 666 ask soon. Use as torrent machine not bad thou. @raymond5105 Haha.. Barry change his rigs withou notice thou. Yea.. 2nd kabu's word. After 2-3 years light applicaton guess still ok for S478. Perhaps after that time, gonna change it into HTPC lo. Still powderful in movie!
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Redundant	Feb 28 2008, 11:01 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #54
Gundam Freak Senior Member 1,713 posts Joined: Feb 2005	My pc is really for bting, msn, surf net, light gaming (dota and cs), and lots and lots of anime!!! gave up gaming since my pc couldnt play games after cnc3 =(
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TSraymond5105	Feb 28 2008, 11:26 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #55
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	How come your pc can't play C&C 3 ? 9550 can support the game what.
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fylon	Feb 28 2008, 11:32 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #56
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Redundant Hah.. Yea. 2.4Ghz proc really is a pain when playing recent game. Even mine o/c til 3.6+ still can feel the pain when on C&C 3 @ full details. But then, 60% of my pc resource still in watching anime and music.
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TSraymond5105	Feb 28 2008, 11:37 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #57
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	3.6GHz still not satisfy fylon? :lol,don't set the details into high ...I don't play them in full details. Looks like grpahics is really important to most gamers.
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fylon	Feb 28 2008, 12:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #58
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Ray Haha.. Not really. When doing encoding.. Its take me sometime to finish it. Especially encoding some audio files. Other game like Dawn of War 3.6Ghz still able to hold the match. But not really for C&C3 as edmin says, that game required high processing power from cpu. Ehehe.. Not really.. But since the graphic card can handle the game with full details, why not give it a shot? Dont waste man! This post has been edited by fylon: Feb 28 2008, 12:04 PM
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barry80	Feb 28 2008, 02:04 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #59
Casual Junior Member 490 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: Somewhere I belong	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Feb 28 2008, 08:50 AM) @barry80,your list haven't up to date yet. The list is showing you on 9600pro. Now already change to X1950 pro?? Yeah, just check back the list, i missed out another X1950pro user = choongkeat with his Sapphire 512mb somemore. If my memory serve me well, he bought his Sapphire at SG. & i just check Bell price list, they still got X1950pro agp for sell. Since there got 3 S478 users on X1950pro, why not someone make a quantum leap for the very first S478 user to own a ati 3xxx agp ? Maybe just maybe a nvidia 9xxx agp lol
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ReaperOfSoul	Feb 28 2008, 02:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #60
On my way Senior Member 648 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: TTDI	@ raymond The intel mobo still with me ler The capasitor got problem ..only need changing. It supports 4gb ram Btw..my load temp never exceeds 70C i think . Btw 3.1 ghz is the max stable for my asrock board edi
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TSraymond5105	Feb 28 2008, 02:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #61
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(fylon @ Feb 28 2008, 12:00 PM) @Ray Haha.. Not really. When doing encoding.. Its take me sometime to finish it. Especially encoding some audio files. Other game like Dawn of War 3.6Ghz still able to hold the match. But not really for C&C3 as edmin says, that game required high processing power from cpu. Ehehe.. Not really.. But since the graphic card can handle the game with full details, why not give it a shot? Dont waste man! I thought C&C 3 requirement not that high in processing power.I was thinking it needs more graphic processing power. QUOTE(barry80 @ Feb 28 2008, 02:04 PM) Yeah, just check back the list, i missed out another X1950pro user = choongkeat with his Sapphire 512mb somemore. If my memory serve me well, he bought his Sapphire at SG. & i just check Bell price list, they still got X1950pro agp for sell. Since there got 3 S478 users on X1950pro, why not someone make a quantum leap for the very first S478 user to own a ati 3xxx agp ? Maybe just maybe a nvidia 9xxx agp lol Another user here waiting for HD3xxx AGP. QUOTE(ReaperOfSoul @ Feb 28 2008, 02:28 PM) @ raymond The intel mobo still with me ler The capasitor got problem ..only need changing. It supports 4gb ram Btw..my load temp never exceeds 70C i think . Btw 3.1 ghz is the max stable for my asrock board edi I see.Intel mobo cap leak? Between,your Asrock mobo comes with internal grpahics,it's good already as you can still o/c a little bit.
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kabukiawie	Feb 28 2008, 03:57 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #62
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	i got 9xxx agp!! dont play play. XD but is radeon lo... not nvidia. hehe... @reaperofsoul wao..... not exceed 70C?? mean somewhere 60++?? not healthy la..... try maintain it below 60C.
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fylon	Feb 28 2008, 04:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #63
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@raymond5105 Lol.. Edmin say he tried with Athlon 64, 2GB ram and 76GT on C&C3 it was butter smooth thou. But in fact, 76GT should be able to hold this game well. I face when in crowded scene. Especially when whole bunch of army group together and attack. @barry80 Go grab the ATI HD 3series AGP now!!! Then sell me ur X1950PRO @ RM200.. Hahaha.. Jk jk! Btw, the AsRock mobo was rocking stable. Owned 2 of them before.. Well.. No doubt for its performance as it was from Asus. @kabukiawie Haha.. I was what will nvidia next series of card call after the 9 series. Since i know about PC thingy start until now, nvidia has been evolute from Geforce 4 until now Geforce 9.. 9 generation in less then 6 years time i guess. @
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TSraymond5105	Feb 28 2008, 05:01 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #64
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon,C&C 3 is really nice. Recently just try to play with skirmish hard enemy. I guess your proc is just now if you run on 3.8GHz since you said your game isn't that smooth when in group attacking.But i believe the GC is also one of the main hardware as it renders pictures too!
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edministrator	Feb 28 2008, 05:43 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #65
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Feb 28 2008, 05:01 PM) @fylon,C&C 3 is really nice. Recently just try to play with skirmish hard enemy.� I guess your proc is just now if you run on 3.8GHz since you said your game isn't that smooth when in group attacking.But i believe the GC is also one of the main hardware as it renders pictures too! it is more likely the CPU usage AI computation+on screen units rendering, all taxing CPU. Simple example if you wanna know it is GPU or CPU bottleneck. drop your resolution/details and run the game again. If it still lags with multiple AI units on screen, then u can confirm is CPU bottleneck. Added on February 28, 2008, 5:46 pm QUOTE(fylon @ Feb 28 2008, 04:33 PM) @kabukiawie Haha.. I was what will nvidia next series of card call after the 9 series. Since i know about PC thingy start until now, nvidia has been evolute from Geforce 4 until now Geforce 9.. 9 generation in less then 6 years time i guess. heh, me and kabu was there since long ago, even before geforce series. still remember TNT Vanta from Nvidia, struggling hard to beat Voodoo. Nvidia emphasize more on Direct3D while 3dfx promoting Glide. Suddenly these buggers from nvidia 'swallowed' 3dfx alive! This post has been edited by edministrator: Feb 28 2008, 05:47 PM
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Redundant	Feb 28 2008, 05:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #66
Gundam Freak Senior Member 1,713 posts Joined: Feb 2005	i can play cnc3 at custom settings made out of low and medium... looks acceptable but will lag when the army is too big or when u fire the ion canon... lolx! i love the ion canan's effect at full effect... watched it b4 on my fren's 8800gt ^^ i cannot play games after cnc3 dy... such as bioshock... =( hoping tat i can still play the upcoming starcraft 2... the requirement shud b okok rite? This post has been edited by Redundant: Feb 28 2008, 05:59 PM
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ReaperOfSoul	Feb 28 2008, 06:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #67
On my way Senior Member 648 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: TTDI	@ kabukiawie Im trying hard to make my processor burn so that can get new rig I consider this computer kinda good already Served me well for 4 years . Can still play Crysis wei
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fylon	Feb 28 2008, 06:11 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #68
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@raymond5105 Lol.. Gonna test out edmin suggestion to see whether either is the GPU or the CPU is bottlenecking the game. @Edmin Yea.. The 1st GC that i use was the TNT. Hm.. Its 32mb type if im mistaken. Forgot already. But now.. Dont think it still exist lo. Rarely to find it at garage sales as well. Haha.. @Redundant Ever tried with prostreet? Haha.. Never had a chance to touch wit bioshock thou. Wander our game tester here Edmin test this game with his rigs yet.
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edministrator	Feb 28 2008, 06:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #69
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Feb 28 2008, 06:11 PM) @Edmin Yea.. The 1st GC that i use was the TNT. Hm.. Its 32mb type if im mistaken. Forgot already. But now.. Dont think it still exist lo. Rarely to find it at garage sales as well. Haha.. @Redundant Ever tried with prostreet? Haha.. Never had a chance to touch wit bioshock thou. Wander our game tester here Edmin test this game with his rigs yet. Bioshock, tested. Runs smooth (40-60fps) in medium-high settings, 1024 x 768, 76GT + P4 3.3Ghz + 2GB RAM.
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Redundant	Feb 28 2008, 06:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #70
Gundam Freak Senior Member 1,713 posts Joined: Feb 2005	@fylon, haha, my comp cant even run most wanted smoothly... can to adjust to lowest settings which makes it look suckier than ps2's... better off playing it on the console btw, my 9550 can only run at AGP 4x due to my mobo =/ as for using it for anime... so far i've collected 90GB of anime on my hard disk... lolx... dragon ball z took almost 40GB already ><
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TSraymond5105	Feb 28 2008, 07:01 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #71
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@edmin and fylon,i'm using 12801024 resolution in the game on my 9550. Average i can get average 30FPS in the game. Is that good enough?I tried before 1024768,it was giving the same framerate too.
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kabukiawie	Feb 28 2008, 07:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #72
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@redundant easy only, sponsor the cpu to me and get yourself a new pc. jk jk me also 9550 user. XD @fylon Edmin is old bird in gc. i knew him when he crazying on voodoo3 that time. hoho....... many years lo....
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edministrator	Feb 28 2008, 07:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #73
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Feb 28 2008, 07:01 PM) @edmin and fylon,i'm using 12801024 resolution in the game on my 9550. Average i can get average 30FPS in the game. Is that good enough?I tried before 1024768,it was giving the same framerate too. bro, cnc3 engine is capped at 30fps Added on February 28, 2008, 7:20 pm QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Feb 28 2008, 07:14 PM) @redundant easy only, sponsor the cpu to me and get yourself a new pc. jk jk me also 9550 user. XD @fylon Edmin is old bird in gc. i knew him when he crazying on voodoo3 that time. hoho....... many years lo.... bro, i recalled, i started the 3D craze in 97, after sick of s3 Virge i was even a crew of a foreign 3rd party 3dfx drivers modder team for creating tweaked drivers package, and it does make a difference for lots of enthusiasts, especially when we tried it on NFS3, hehe... those were the days. This post has been edited by edministrator: Feb 28 2008, 07:24 PM
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kabukiawie	Feb 28 2008, 07:29 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #74
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@ed haha...... s3 virge i still not knowing you yet. when i know you that time all people crazy about 2 x voodoo3 pci. @Ray seems 9550 have good performance in cnc3. want to try it on my both rig. i looking for hl2 both episodes. keke...... hand itchy again.
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Redundant	Feb 28 2008, 08:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #75
Gundam Freak Senior Member 1,713 posts Joined: Feb 2005	9550XT shoud hav higher clock speed than 9550GE rite? o.O
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TSraymond5105	Feb 28 2008, 08:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #76
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@kabu,ya you may try the gc with this game.Quite good with the default settings in the game. @Redundant , 95XT is a bit faster than the GE version in core and memory speed.
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Tanakwagu_noh	Feb 28 2008, 08:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #77
Photographer Senior Member 866 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: "Pak Pak Kangku Noh"	if wan to used 3 unit of hdd, let say 80g,200g and 320g.What is the best psu to use and how many watt..if say i'm also got used 5 fan..(3 unit of 8cm and 2 unit of 12cm)..
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TSraymond5105	Feb 28 2008, 08:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #78
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	You are using same socket with us?Suggest at least a 450w psu to run on them.
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herojack41	Feb 28 2008, 09:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #79
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	@Tanakwagu_noh 450 true power psu should be enough....if u r very heavy user and need to on da comp 24 hour...i suggest 500watt true power.... u might wanna try Enlight and HEC this two brand psu.....i got a streamyx customer which is using Enlight psu over 20 years....still rocking and stable.
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ReaperOfSoul	Feb 28 2008, 09:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #80
On my way Senior Member 648 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: TTDI	Im using the same amount of harddisk and overclocking Currently using Enermax FMA II 460W . Its kinda worth it for the price i paid RM 199 only
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TSraymond5105	Feb 28 2008, 10:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #81
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Your FMA 460W is damn cheap,new unit?
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fylon	Feb 28 2008, 10:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #82
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Ray Lol.. OT abit.. Did u know that actually there were another secret skirmish in C&C3? But with the rules of u gotta complete both GDI & NOD skirmish with hard level then u can unlock it. Anyways, is a good game! Mind training type. By then.. Im running at the same resolution as u. But just i run all at ultra high details. Abit torture for the GC i guess. Oh yea.. How do u cap the fps during gaming? Last time i was using ATI tools but now change to nvidia card wander what software can be use to cap the fps. @Edmin Have u play C&C3 before with ur rigs? Lol.. I tested the method that u suggest just now. Ultra high setting with 1024*768 reso.. Seems like the lagness is gone. Seems like is the GC problem.. @kabukiawie Gosh.. S3!! Nearly forgot this card. Actually my 1st GC wasnt TNT but S3/2D Trio! Haha.. Still remeber it. The card still alive in my uncle pc. @herojack41 Bro, doesnt means on the pc 24/7 then need to have high watt PSU. A 450W will do as well. Just the component inside ur rigs that count on the power usage.
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TSraymond5105	Feb 28 2008, 10:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #83
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon,else u can use also Fraps.Just on the program when u play game.If you want to use higher resolution then you might need to get a more powerful GC.1024768 can play with ultra high is not bad on your 76GT. Added on February 28, 2008, 10:41 pmI didn't know about this.Do you play hard in skirmish?I play using GDI to beats Scrins. This post has been edited by raymond5105*: Feb 28 2008, 10:41 PM
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ReaperOfSoul	Feb 28 2008, 10:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #84
On my way Senior Member 648 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: TTDI	@ raymond Yeah its a new one Bought it at AllIT during pc fair. Damn good offer I was the first one to get
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fylon	Feb 28 2008, 10:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #85
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@raymond5105 Lol.. Frap again. Hm.. Gotta look for the ehem version. Oh yea.. There were a secret skirmish. Lol.. I played all the mission in hard mode in order to unlock it. On my way now.. Hm.. Ultra setting for C&C3 suppose to be ok. Try UT3 then u will know what the pain is. Haha.. Mine, i can run with full texture details but world detail on can take 3 out of 5 the maximum.. 4 is playable but will cause u die fast when in shooting mode. Then 5? Dont need say.. This post has been edited by fylon*: Feb 28 2008, 11:11 PM
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Tanakwagu_noh	Feb 28 2008, 11:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #86
Photographer Senior Member 866 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: "Pak Pak Kangku Noh"	QUOTE(ReaperOfSoul @ Feb 28 2008, 09:56 PM) Im using the same amount of harddisk and overclocking Currently using Enermax FMA II 460W . Its kinda worth it for the price i paid RM 199 only thanks...now hunting for psu at least 500w true power....do you think tecom 500watt is capable to support all this...
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ReaperOfSoul	Feb 28 2008, 11:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #87
On my way Senior Member 648 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: TTDI	Tecom brand? I havent heard about it b4 though..Better ask the sifu's in Lowyat or use uncle Google : www.google.com
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fylon	Feb 28 2008, 11:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #88
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Tanakwagu_noh Haha.. TECOM? Gosh man..That more worse the iCute FYI. iCute atleast can let me clock my previous 3.0E til 3.6Ghz before it explode and cause my mobo & proc dead.. The TECOM are only written 500W, actually continues output might only 3xxWatt only. Bro, i suggest u, if u got the $$, hamtam for ST400. Worth ur money.
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Redundant	Feb 28 2008, 11:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #89
Gundam Freak Senior Member 1,713 posts Joined: Feb 2005	i also saw the enermax fma II 460W selling for rm199 in all it when i bought my st400 (rm169)... wanted to buy tat one, it has 2 fans, 3 yrs warranty and plenty of stock ^^ but err, since sifus here recommend me silverstone, so i better stick to it This post has been edited by Redundant: Feb 28 2008, 11:17 PM
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fylon	Feb 28 2008, 11:27 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #90
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Redundant Lol.. Enermax FMA II was a good kit. But well.. Price vs Performance, i think ST400 take the lead. Thats why most of the time, i will suggest go for ST400.
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edministrator	Feb 29 2008, 12:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #91
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Feb 28 2008, 10:26 PM) @Edmin Have u play C&C3 before with ur rigs? Lol.. I tested the method that u suggest just now. Ultra high setting with 1024768 reso.. Seems like the lagness is gone. Seems like is the GC problem.. @herojack41 Bro, doesnt means on the pc 24/7 then need to have high watt PSU. A 450W will do as well. Just the component inside ur rigs that count on the power usage. @fylon so your sweet spot would be 1024 x 768 in cnc3 ultra all with 4xAA, same as my rig. higher resolution not that smooth anymore. @herojack41 like fylon says, 24/7 does not mean you need high power PSU. Simple scenario, a wooden hut that can only fit 2 person, if you squeeze 3 more persons, the wooden hut might collapse and killing the people inside along with it. Same goes for the PSU case, if it cannot feed enough juice to your components, possibility of frying your components along with the PSU is possible. 24/7 rig requires a PSU that can provide stable power instead of high wattage. This post has been edited by edministrator*: Feb 29 2008, 12:10 AM
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shinjite	Feb 29 2008, 12:33 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #92
�ŞħĬΩĵΐŦ�� All Stars 19,321 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Klang	V6 adi >.>" Geez...it must be a while since I last step foot into this thread
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kabukiawie	Feb 29 2008, 07:06 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #93
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon & Ed waa...... C&C3 @ 1024*768 all ultra setting with 4xAA butter smooth i think mine only manage to get there without the 4xAA i think. maybe worse.
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TSraymond5105	Feb 29 2008, 09:32 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #94
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(ReaperOfSoul @ Feb 28 2008, 10:42 PM) @ raymond Yeah its a new one Bought it at AllIT during pc fair. Damn good offer I was the first one to get I think this psu for normal and slightly overclocking is still fine.Quite a good & reliable psu. QUOTE(fylon @ Feb 28 2008, 10:58 PM) @raymond5105 Lol.. Frap again. Hm.. Gotta look for the ehem version. Oh yea.. There were a secret skirmish. Lol.. I played all the mission in hard mode in order to unlock it. On my way now.. Hm.. Ultra setting for C&C3 suppose to be ok. Try UT3 then u will know what the pain is. Haha.. Mine, i can run with full texture details but world detail on can take 3 out of 5 the maximum.. 4 is playable but will cause u die fast when in shooting mode. Then 5? Dont need say.. Fraps i dun have the ahem one and i couldn't record down the game played. But i notice in the game mine is always getting 28-30FPS in gaming.In crowd,i have forgotten already.Next time need to notice and see. QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Feb 29 2008, 07:06 AM) @fylon & Ed waa...... C&C3 @ 1024*768 all ultra setting with 4xAA butter smooth i think mine only manage to get there without the 4xAA i think. maybe worse. 9500 can't expect so much.Forget about 4XAA.
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fylon	Feb 29 2008, 10:24 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #95
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Edmin Lol.. But i think urs should be got more butter then mine. Whats the spec of ur 76GS edmin? Is it 600/1600? @Kabu Hee... But well.. Its on medium reso la! If 12801024 can run full details then baru syok! @Ray Lol.. Hm.. I just need something to measure the fps during gaming only. Can get the ehem version good as well, got extra function.
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sang_karim	Feb 29 2008, 10:27 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #96
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	iskk ... i've decided to install new windows to my Sata hdd ... but when it comes to install gc driver, the problem strike again ... i dunno what is the problem .. when i remove ati driver through safe mode and restart again, then can view windows like normal but of coz no ati display drive la ... is it the driver problem?
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edministrator	Feb 29 2008, 10:39 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #97
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Feb 29 2008, 10:24 AM) @Edmin Lol.. But i think urs should be got more butter then mine. Whats the spec of ur 76GS edmin? Is it 600/1600? yes, flashed to 600/1600, oc'ed from 500/1450 Added on February 29, 2008, 10:41 am QUOTE(sang_karim @ Feb 29 2008, 10:27 AM) iskk ... i've decided to install new windows to my Sata hdd ... but when it comes to install gc driver, the problem strike again ... i dunno what is the problem .. when i remove ati driver through safe mode and restart again, then can view windows like normal but of coz no ati display drive la ... is it the driver problem?� have you tried older drivers? what is your exact issue actually? i have faced few times on nvidia cards that installing the windows is fine, safe mode is fine but when it comes to initiating the drivers for it, it will blank screen and hang. this is due to the GPU issue, and has sent the card for warranty. This post has been edited by edministrator: Feb 29 2008, 10:42 AM
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kabukiawie	Feb 29 2008, 11:00 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #98
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Feb 29 2008, 09:32 AM) 9500 can't expect so much.Forget about 4XAA. i mean 73gt la... cant expect much from 9550. QUOTE(fylon @ Feb 29 2008, 10:24 AM) @Kabu Hee... But well.. Its on medium reso la! If 1280*1024 can run full details then baru syok! can 1. just change 1950pro or 79gs will do. XD QUOTE(sang_karim @ Feb 29 2008, 10:27 AM) iskk ... i've decided to install new windows to my Sata hdd ... but when it comes to install gc driver, the problem strike again ... i dunno what is the problem .. when i remove ati driver through safe mode and restart again, then can view windows like normal but of coz no ati display drive la ... is it the driver problem? maybe you can try older driver or 3rd party. just try. whats your previous card?? nvidia?? suspecting previous driver not completely removed.
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sang_karim	Feb 29 2008, 11:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #99
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(edministrator @ Feb 29 2008, 10:39 AM) yes, flashed to 600/1600, oc'ed from 500/1450 Added on February 29, 2008, 10:41 am have you tried older drivers? what is your exact issue actually? i have faced few times on nvidia cards that installing the windows is fine, safe mode is fine but when it comes to initiating the drivers for it, it will blank screen and hang. this is due to the GPU issue, and has sent the card for warranty. after finish installing windows ... screen can view windows but when i'm installing display driver using the cd given for tha gc .. after restart ... screen can't view windows but th screen showing like tv habis siaran .... so i removed the driver through safe mode and keep trying installing the driver but still didn't work ...
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TSraymond5105	Feb 29 2008, 12:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #100
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@kabu,i guess your 7300GT should be able to play smooth in 1280*1024 resolution display. Open 4XAA ? erm...i'm not that confident it can play smooth.
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fylon	Feb 29 2008, 12:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #101
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Edmin Lol.. No wander the clock speed are different from what i see. Btw, stable at that speed huh? 100mhz extra juice from GPU and 150mhz extra from memory.. Thats alot of juice man.. Whats ur idle temp for this OC result? On my way to OC mine now. Lazy to OC my procs as recently keep on torrent for drama an anime.. OT: The Sarah Connor Chronicles season 1 gonna end soon is it? Was download it now.. Got ah moi cantik inside.. @kabukiawie Haha.. Wait the price drop until RM200! @Sang Hm.. Seems like the driver was causing u problem.. Are u using CRT or LCD? Had try the latest driver from ATI? U using the official driver right? Try to swap with 3rd party type and see how was it. Omega driver was one of my choice last time. @Ray Lol.. Kabu 73GT should be able to hook decent fps without AA on. But once AA on, i think he will start suffer already as 128mb vram wasnt enough for shader thou.
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TSraymond5105	Feb 29 2008, 01:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #102
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon,that's why i ask kabu not to practice that.Else he will be crying along the game.Haha.Your 76GT if can o/c another extra 100MHz...wao i just you problem will be able to solve in crowded scene.
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kabukiawie	Feb 29 2008, 01:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #103
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@sang are you able to see the loading bar?? if just blank when reach desktop and all your keyboard still working, then should be driver problem.
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edministrator	Feb 29 2008, 02:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #104
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Feb 29 2008, 12:19 PM) @Edmin Lol.. No wander the clock speed are different from what i see. Btw, stable at that speed huh? 100mhz extra juice from GPU and 150mhz extra from memory.. Thats alot of juice man.. Whats ur idle temp for this OC result? On my way to OC mine now. Lazy to OC my procs as recently keep on torrent for drama an anime.. OT: The Sarah Connor Chronicles season 1 gonna end soon is it? Was download it now.. Got ah moi cantik inside.. @kabukiawie Haha.. Wait the price drop until RM200! @Sang Hm.. Seems like the driver was causing u problem.. Are u using CRT or LCD? Had try the latest driver from ATI? U using the official driver right? Try to swap with 3rd party type and see how was it. Omega driver was one of my choice last time. @Ray Lol.. Kabu 73GT should be able to hook decent fps without AA on. But once AA on, i think he will start suffer already as 128mb vram wasnt enough for shader thou. yes, rock stable at that speed. idle temp with the zalman HSF is 43C, load @ 55C. And yes, Sarah Chronicles ending @ episode 12 for Season 1.
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khai84siong	Feb 29 2008, 02:51 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #105
Getting Started Junior Member 249 posts Joined: Jul 2007 From: ~Some where over the rainbow~	as expected, V6 in just a few months come come oc ur rig then we all cn prepare popcorn @raymond hey bro u haven edit my rig ler in the 1st page could u edit it as shown at my sig? thx man
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sang_karim	Feb 29 2008, 03:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #106
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Feb 29 2008, 01:56 PM) @sang are you able to see the loading bar?? if just blank when reach desktop and all your keyboard still working, then should be driver problem. i can see the loading bar .... it's all ok until the loading bar and then the siaran habis screen starts ... will try use that omega drive today ... ..one more thing, is it normal my 160Gb hdd detected as 130Gb when i make partiton for that hdd?
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TSraymond5105	Feb 29 2008, 03:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #107
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(khai84siong @ Feb 29 2008, 02:51 PM) as expected, V6 in just a few months come come oc ur rig then we all cn prepare popcorn @raymond hey bro u haven edit my rig ler in the 1st page could u edit it as shown at my sig? thx man Sorry i was not aware that you have change mobo and RAM. Your Gigabyte sold off already ?Already updated on the first page. QUOTE(sang_karim @ Feb 29 2008, 03:17 PM) i can see the loading bar .... it's all ok until the loading bar and then the siaran habis screen starts ... will try use that omega drive today ... ..one more thing, is it normal my 160Gb hdd detected as 130Gb when i make partiton for that hdd? Your GC still have problem with driver use? Seems like ATI GC has serious campatibility issues.
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kabukiawie	Feb 29 2008, 03:43 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #108
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@sang if omega still give you the same problem, maybe get older version driver try it out. since the difference is not much as newer driver mostly for game fix and optimize newer gc. just my 2 cents. as for hdd detect fewer gb, its normal.
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fylon	Feb 29 2008, 04:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #109
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@ray Lol.. Yea! He told me before. Well.. 128mb really not enough juice for AA. Just tried to push my GC. 600/750 seems stable during 3Dmark06. @sang Seems like my previous case where the driver was having issues with the monitor refresh rate. Try revert to older version and see how was it. And its normal for hdd to lost few GB of space when u plug it into ur rigs. Haha.. Dont worry its fine. @edin Not bad.. Are ur card using samsung chip? Mine wasnt, but hopefully it can be still push more abit. @khai84siong C'mon siong! Got get a DDR booster and boost ur rigs!! Go go go!!
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TSraymond5105	Feb 29 2008, 04:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #110
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon,600/750 on your card can get how many marks?3D mark 06 is a bit stressing on your 7600GT.
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khai84siong	Feb 29 2008, 05:01 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #111
Getting Started Junior Member 249 posts Joined: Jul 2007 From: ~Some where over the rainbow~	@sang i think there's smth wrong when u do partition should be the same total when u add all the other partition 2gether i mean if ur hdd is 160GB, u should hv between 145-150GB 130GB is too low @raymond thx man my gigabyte mobo i keep at home spoil ad nt sure cn repair o nt keep as memory @fylon still searching for the booster
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kabukiawie	Feb 29 2008, 05:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #112
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	fylon, with the siong's rig. i would recommend get a better hfs before get the ddr booster. presHott ma... other components are fine. to get further, grap high performance ram.
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ReaperOfSoul	Feb 29 2008, 05:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #113
On my way Senior Member 648 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: TTDI	Latest overclocking Trying to reach sub 40's with stock cooler Attached thumbnail(s)
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fylon	Feb 29 2008, 05:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #114
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@ray Haha.. Didnt run the full test. Just run part of the test to the stability. So far so good.. Even with the HIS chip atleast its better then my previous 68GT which cant be OC. @Kabu Lol.. But then light OC stock HSF should be ok. Just his ram hold back the OC ability thou. BH-5!! Ever think once to get this type of ram but end up still stick with TCCD. @ReaperOfSoul Nice score u got there. By then ur proc was C0 stepping.. That might one of the reason ur temp is high. AFAIK, C0 was a piece of hot chip. Whats ur ram timing dude? This post has been edited by fylon: Feb 29 2008, 05:51 PM
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ReaperOfSoul	Feb 29 2008, 05:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #115
On my way Senior Member 648 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: TTDI	3-3-3-8 Kingston Value Rams Edit: I cool the rams with a 8cm fan This post has been edited by ReaperOfSoul: Feb 29 2008, 05:54 PM
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Redundant	Feb 29 2008, 05:57 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #116
Gundam Freak Senior Member 1,713 posts Joined: Feb 2005	QUOTE(edministrator @ Feb 29 2008, 02:14 PM) yes, rock stable at that speed. idle temp with the zalman HSF is 43C, load @ 55C. And yes, Sarah Chronicles ending @ episode 12 for Season 1. i tot next week is the 2 hour season finale already? @@
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ReaperOfSoul	Feb 29 2008, 05:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #117
On my way Senior Member 648 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: TTDI	How do i reach higher clocks ? It seems like my rams are limiting me...Should i put looser timings or tighter one? should i put 2.5-3-3-7 ?
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fylon	Feb 29 2008, 06:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #118
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@ReaperOfSoul Ic.. No wander the PI score seems abit slow. Hm.. VR its a bit hard to be clock higher. Whats ur ram chip? D-43? If it was, then ur had a pair of overclockable ram thou. Mine ever high FSB251 with 3-4-4-8 timing. Oh yea.. If ur ram was base on D-43 chip then i suggest u loosen the timing to 3-4-4-8 to archived high speed. These chip can hit very high speed with 2.8v vdimm but with the conditon u must ran it at loosen timing. Btw, what ratio are u using? @Redundant Ur terminator fan's also? Haha.. I was on my way to DL the whole series now. I was watch chinese sub's.. Latest epi was 07.
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edministrator	Feb 29 2008, 06:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #119
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(Redundant @ Feb 29 2008, 05:57 PM) i tot next week is the 2 hour season finale already? @@ bro, u r absolutely right. looks like i m outdated. hm..sorry for that. original plan was 12 episodes. now they cut it short to 9 epsisodes during post production. thank you for correcting me.
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ReaperOfSoul	Feb 29 2008, 06:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #120
On my way Senior Member 648 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: TTDI	My kingston rams are labelled as Kingston. How do i check what chips is it? Edit: I dont think my mobo have the ram divider ratio thing lar...only see Auto / DDR 333 / 400 bla bla...nothing much This post has been edited by ReaperOfSoul: Feb 29 2008, 07:55 PM
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khai84siong	Feb 29 2008, 07:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #121
Getting Started Junior Member 249 posts Joined: Jul 2007 From: ~Some where over the rainbow~	@kabu hehheheh, i gt tuniq tower 120 but i cant install to my casing coz too big ad the hsf planning to buy cm690 then only install the hsf then after that cn oc kao kao
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Redundant	Feb 29 2008, 09:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #122
Gundam Freak Senior Member 1,713 posts Joined: Feb 2005	QUOTE(edministrator @ Feb 29 2008, 06:25 PM) bro, u r absolutely right. looks like i m outdated. hm..sorry for that. original plan was 12 episodes. now they cut it short to 9 epsisodes during post production. thank you for correcting me. oic... haha, i watch it becoz of the lui terminator still prefer T-X from terminator 3 thou... sexier!!!
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fylon	Feb 29 2008, 10:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #123
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@khai84siong Haha.. Time for new case to shine ur rigs man.. CM690? CM Stacker much more better.. Anyways, get a better casing does improve the air flow thus can lower down the temp. @Redundant Yea.. Yea.. TX-2!! Sexier.. Cameron so so lo.. Aikz.. OT! Haha.. Turn into drama thread now.. I just completed download Epi 1 - 7, wanna find time to watch. Next weekk 8 and 9 will out.
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khai84siong	Feb 29 2008, 10:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #124
Getting Started Junior Member 249 posts Joined: Jul 2007 From: ~Some where over the rainbow~	@fylon cm stacker over my budget man u wan sponsor me? hehhehehhe just joking k
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kabukiawie	Mar 1 2008, 12:08 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #125
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@siong aiyo........ with tuniq but didnt use?? haha... if i were you, i rather open side panel and put psu on top of casing give space for tuniq. now your cpu needs to be cooled down la. cm690 is a nice casing to grab. @reaperofsoul the score not as expected. last time my 2.4A 533 prescott running at 3.3GHz manage to squeeze till 40s. the fsb is only 192 and ram speed not even touch 400mhz. whats the divider you using now?? try set manually to 400, dont use auto. 1:1 can score better. thats my 2 cents. hope it helps.
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ReaperOfSoul	Mar 1 2008, 01:45 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #126
On my way Senior Member 648 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: TTDI	Im using 1:1 devider and tried every single timings i could use Nevermind lar...this board is cheap one
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fylon	Mar 1 2008, 09:59 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #127
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@khai84siong Haha.. sponsor u the picture can la.. Myself also planning for a better case once i move to KL. @Kabu Lol.. Ur legend chip? Sold already right.. What a pity.. Haiz.. Recently mad with torrenting drama and anime.. No time for OC..
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KahLooN	Mar 1 2008, 10:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #128
~(^^)~ Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Cheras	@khai84siong CM690 is not bad for a casing, in addition is not that expensive thou. If im not mistaken is around rm 300+ rite? @fylon Haha, busy with torrenting yea? @ReaperOfSoul Have you try MemSet before? Well is a program where you can alter the memory timing.
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fylon	Mar 1 2008, 10:33 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #129
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@KahLooN Yea.. Kinda! Haha.. Terminator drama series, Knight Raider series, Airwolf, Street hawk! Gosh.. All is my childhood hero! Well.. Got the chance now then DL to keep as collection.
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khai84siong	Mar 1 2008, 12:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #130
Getting Started Junior Member 249 posts Joined: Jul 2007 From: ~Some where over the rainbow~	@KahLooN mmm, so expensive ad ka? coz last 2 months i know they sell bout RM245 did they increase the price ad? @fylon gt ppl still torrent airwolf? so long ad the movie This post has been edited by khai84siong: Mar 1 2008, 01:05 PM
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fylon	Mar 1 2008, 01:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #131
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@khai84siong If im not mistaken, not long ago i read a post says that due of CM690 was the favo case for almost all the user. So the shop raise the price. But.. Not sure is true or not..
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choongkeat	Mar 1 2008, 02:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #132
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Jun 2005 From: KL	wow... i just installed Call Of Duty 4 to play.... with my P4 rig.... during loading... the video already play finish... loading also not yet finish.... Seems like its high time to change a new rig already.... My cousin's pc using Athlon X2.... loading finish.... the video still long way to go.... oh man....
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TSraymond5105	Mar 1 2008, 03:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #133
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Now become BT thread already. chongkeat,your proc is running on stock only?Why not o/c a bit?During the game will it lag ?
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choongkeat	Mar 1 2008, 03:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #134
Getting Started Junior Member 164 posts Joined: Jun 2005 From: KL	I scared the PC suddenly die on me..... that time *** loh....
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TSraymond5105	Mar 1 2008, 04:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #135
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	AS long as your proc doesn't exist 1.6V then it will be safe from the syndrome.I believe your proc can easily o/c to reach 3.2GHz.
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fylon	Mar 1 2008, 05:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #136
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@khai84siong Oh yea.. Haha! But i not sure the quality of the movie yet. Still prefer knight rider.. @choongkeat Dont worry dude.. Haha! Keep ur o/c status below 15% from stock wont harm alot. Like me and ray o/c chun 15% from stock so far so good. And i think my rigs on longer time then ray as i torrent alot.. It should be alright..
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khai84siong	Mar 1 2008, 09:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #137
Getting Started Junior Member 249 posts Joined: Jul 2007 From: ~Some where over the rainbow~	@fylon knight rider? is it about the car which cn talk? gt macguvyer? i forgot how to spell it gt lots of english movie i also wanna c, but cant download some more bout the a guy which cn change his appearance to become animal, bout the fighting helicopter, ...... those were the days............
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Redundant	Mar 1 2008, 09:57 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #138
Gundam Freak Senior Member 1,713 posts Joined: Feb 2005	haiz, assassin creed just came out... min requirement by far out of spec for my com =/ another game im missing out... sadz =(
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fylon	Mar 1 2008, 10:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #139
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@khai84siong OT: Haha.. Yea! The intelligent car which can talk and think. Now got the movie eh! i just DL it and watch.. New car already! Mustang! By then its kinda hard to DL unless ur bypassing the tmnut SSL script which is throttling P2P with VPN. Otherwise it will be a pain to DL those series. Eh.. I thought TV2 or TV3 is showing macguvyer now? But its on midnight thou.. Yea! It was on those day when PC still not part of ur life. @Redundant Gosh! That game gonna release on April right? Wait.. Going to check the requirement spec 1st! Guys.. Check the details.. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Ubisoft unveil the PC specs for Assassin's Creed All credit goes to Sionyboy for heading this info our way - top man! Anyway, Ubisoft have "released" the hardware requirements for the forthcoming PC version of Assassin's Creed... not in any big press release though. No, they decide to hide them away in their Help & Support section. Anyway, here are the gory details: In order to play this game properly, your PC MUST meet or exceed these minimum requirements: Supported OS: Windows XP / Vista (only) Processor: Dual core processor 2.6 GHz Intel Pentium D or AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Intel Core 2 Duo 2.2 GHz or AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ or better recommended) RAM: 2 GB (3 GB recommended) Video Card: 256 MB DirectX 10.0-compliant video card or DirectX 9.0-compliant card with Shader Model 3.0 or higher (512 MB video card recommended) (see supported list)* Sound Card: DirectX 9.0 or 10.0 compliant sound card (5.1 sound card recommended) DirectX Version: DirectX 10.0 libraries (included on disc) DVD-ROM: DVD-ROM dual-layer drive Hard Drive Space: 12 GB Peripherals Supported: Keyboard, mouse, optional controller (Xbox 360 Controller for Windows recommended) *Supported Video Cards at Time of Release: ATI RADEON X1300-1950 / HD 2000 / 3000 series NVIDIA GeForce 6600-6800 / 7 / 8 / 9 series Laptop versions of these cards may work but are NOT supported. These chipsets are the only ones that will run this game.
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Redundant	Mar 2 2008, 12:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #140
Gundam Freak Senior Member 1,713 posts Joined: Feb 2005	i guess even those two yr old pentium D pcs may hav trouble playing this game ><
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shinjite	Mar 2 2008, 12:26 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #141
�ŞħĬΩĵΐŦ�� All Stars 19,321 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Klang	QUOTE(choongkeat @ Mar 1 2008, 03:38 PM) I scared the PC suddenly die on me..... that time *** loh.... 1.7V (already killin adi for a Northwood) max but make sure good cooling~~
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swhung	Mar 2 2008, 12:39 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #142
Regular Senior Member 1,559 posts Joined: Nov 2005 From: Cheras	hi everyone, just dropping by. im stil a 478 user good ol' prescott i have here, still going strong.
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sniperz11	Mar 2 2008, 02:50 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #143
Casual Junior Member 400 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: KL	Tomorrow will get new GC, Ati X1650XT... Hehehe, long time not upgrade my PC...
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khai84siong	Mar 2 2008, 05:49 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #144
Getting Started Junior Member 249 posts Joined: Jul 2007 From: ~Some where over the rainbow~	@swhung mind posting your hardware so that raymond can add you into our family? ps: raymond i hope its not a burden for u @sniperz11 congratz for getting a new gc after that post your benchies pls
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sniperz11	Mar 2 2008, 05:59 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #145
Casual Junior Member 400 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: KL	@khai84siong Hehehe... Just a normal GC... But better than my 9550 now...
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TSraymond5105	Mar 2 2008, 09:53 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #146
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@khai84siong ,if members post out the spec,surely i will add in their list.No worry.Between i think X1650XT is about the same level with 76GT right?sniperz11 , post out your benchies when you get new GC. Many of us are waiting for you.
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edministrator	Mar 2 2008, 09:59 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #147
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	1650XT != 76GT DDR3 1650XT = 76GS DDR2 comparison of performance wise, of course. This post has been edited by edministrator: Mar 2 2008, 10:02 AM
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fylon	Mar 2 2008, 01:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #148
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@raymond5105 Should be on par with 7600 thou. Seems like the X1650 having more pipeline and vertex shader eh.. @Edmin Lol.. What the different with the one with "!" at behind?
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edministrator	Mar 2 2008, 01:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #149
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 2 2008, 01:18 PM) @raymond5105 Should be on par with 7600 thou. Seems like the X1650 having more pipeline and vertex shader eh.. @Edmin Lol.. What the different with the one with "!" at behind? != not equal to = equal to hehe...programming languange..keke... pipeline and vertex shader does not matter in this case. real world performance is different. i believe is the tech implementation difference.
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fylon	Mar 2 2008, 01:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #150
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@edmin Lol.. Study that before in my previous courses. But cant recall it in a sudden. Have u try crysis on P4? Guess low / mid low setting should be fine with ur rigs right?
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herojack41	Mar 2 2008, 02:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #151
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	heya guys...im back with some off topic question... does any1 Addvalue this USB modem driver??where can i dl??i googled and yahoo-ed still no result This post has been edited by herojack41: Mar 2 2008, 02:17 PM
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TSraymond5105	Mar 2 2008, 02:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #152
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	We wait and see if the X1650XT benchies will be posted here or not.Your Prostreet and C&C 3 play until boring already?Now want to move forward to Crysis already? Added on March 2, 2008, 2:25 pm@herojack41 ,what is the name of the chipset using by the modem? This post has been edited by raymond5105: Mar 2 2008, 02:25 PM
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edministrator	Mar 2 2008, 02:27 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #153
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 2 2008, 01:45 PM) @edmin Lol.. Study that before in my previous courses. But cant recall it in a sudden. Have u try crysis on P4? Guess low / mid low setting should be fine with ur rigs right? crysis tested. too laggy to play on low details also, <30fps.
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herojack41	Mar 2 2008, 02:29 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #154
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	@ray ray korkor....this 1looks so chapalang......i got his this few info only Model No: Adsl-8mu got this code at sticker RAS13701MP100326
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fylon	Mar 2 2008, 02:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #155
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Ray Edmin just reported the case. The game is killing P4 system i guess. :sweat:So no crysis for our system. Wander will the same case happen if Assassin Creed been applied to our system. @Edmin Ehe.. Just do some homework before i fly to KL later. Btw.. Just now try pushed my system and the maximum speed i can hit is 4.080Ghz 1.45v @ FSB255. Anything above that will cause window crash. FSB256-7 is bootable but blank page after POST. RAM were set to 2.5-4-4-8 @ 2.75 1:1 ratio. Wander is due of i was using 4dimm that why hardly to up.
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herojack41	Mar 2 2008, 02:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #156
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 2 2008, 02:39 PM) @Ray Edmin just reported the case. The game is killing P4 system i guess. :sweat:So no crysis for our system. Wander will the same case happen if Assassin Creed been applied to our system. @Edmin Ehe.. Just do some homework before i fly to KL later. Btw.. Just now try pushed my system and the maximum speed i can hit is 4.080Ghz 1.45v @ FSB255. Anything above that will cause window crash. FSB256-7 is bootable but blank page after POST. RAM were set to 2.5-4-4-8 @ 2.75 1:1 ratio. Wander is due of i was using 4dimm that why hardly to up. @fylon pushed max liao? .later when u fly to kl here.....ajar saya OC OC ar .....
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fylon	Mar 2 2008, 03:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #157
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@herojack41 Not yet i guess. Might be the ram dimm issues. Will try again when i back to home town. Time to go airport. Haha.. See ya!
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herojack41	Mar 2 2008, 03:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #158
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	rig aku...Spider RIG! GC This post has been edited by herojack41: Mar 2 2008, 03:29 PM
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TSraymond5105	Mar 2 2008, 03:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #159
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon,nice to see your RAM can acheive 255MHz with that timing.4GHz is damn nice for gaming. Have a safe journey to KL. Added on March 2, 2008, 3:42 pm@herojack41 ,your modem really has limited info. You lost your original driver>? This post has been edited by raymond5105: Mar 2 2008, 03:42 PM
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edministrator	Mar 2 2008, 04:11 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #160
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	@fylon, safe trip 2 KL. hope to hear 4Ghz stability report when u come back soon. btw, crysis engine really CPU taxing. on 800x600 with low settings (look like HL1 engine) still barely managed around 30fps only. on your OC, try set agp voltage to 1.8V (I am running 1.8V all the time) and bump up CPU + RAM voltage, see it helps or not. This post has been edited by edministrator: Mar 2 2008, 04:14 PM
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herojack41	Mar 2 2008, 04:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #161
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	@ray yea...its a chapalang USB modem which is no need power plug ......it got driver but.....my boss already finish give it to customer.... shh...i requested this modem because monday till friday my dad keep my modem
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kabukiawie	Mar 2 2008, 06:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #162
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@sniperz11 1650XT?? if ddr2 then i believe the performance wont be great. actually the 1650=7600, mostly the agp for 1650 is ddr2. then the lerformance will be more or less like Edmin mentioned, 76GS ddr2. as real gaming performance for X1650 is lost to 76gt. even with ddr3 it should be stay between 76gt and 76gs. correct me if wrong. QUOTE(edministrator @ Mar 2 2008, 01:23 PM) != not equal to = equal to hehe...programming languange..keke... pipeline and vertex shader does not matter in this case. real world performance is different. i believe is the tech implementation difference. walao.... programing language also come out <> also can be use. hehehe
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edministrator	Mar 2 2008, 09:44 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #163
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Mar 2 2008, 06:36 PM) @sniperz11 1650XT?? if ddr2 then i believe the performance wont be great. actually the 1650=7600, mostly the agp for 1650 is ddr2. then the lerformance will be more or less like Edmin mentioned, 76GS ddr2. as real gaming performance for X1650 is lost to 76gt. even with ddr3 it should be stay between 76gt and 76gs. correct me if wrong. walao.... programing language also come out <> also can be use. hehehe bro, 10Q, u explained much of my point of view, and the statements are based on past reviews/benchmarks from the net. any new projects lately? This post has been edited by edministrator: Mar 2 2008, 09:56 PM
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fylon	Mar 2 2008, 10:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #164
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Ray & Ed Just step my foot at kl.. Now stay at my fren's house. Oh yea.. with FSB254 my 4 stick TCCD still able to hold 2.5-3-3-5 timing. But i dint mange to let load into windows as i was rushing to push the rigs. Well.. This project still in progress as i havent found the real reason why the system can boot into POST but cant load windows. At FSB255 it still can boot but i not sure whether it can load into windows or not. Haha.. Anyways, my last try was 1.45v vcore and 2.75v vdimm and agp on 1.6v and that stop me at POST. Report again in 8 days time. Edmin and kabu.. Need anything from lowyat? I can give a hand.
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edministrator	Mar 2 2008, 11:03 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #165
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 2 2008, 10:37 PM) @Ray & Ed Just step my foot at kl.. Now stay at my fren's house. Oh yea.. with FSB254 my 4 stick TCCD still able to hold 2.5-3-3-5 timing. But i dint mange to let load into windows as i was rushing to push the rigs. Well.. This project still in progress as i havent found the real reason why the system can boot into POST but cant load windows. At FSB255 it still can boot but i not sure whether it can load into windows or not. Haha.. Anyways, my last try was 1.45v vcore and 2.75v vdimm and agp on 1.6v and that stop me at POST. Report again in 8 days time. Edmin and kabu.. Need anything from lowyat? I can give a hand. yes, need a lot of stuff from lowyat, C2Q6600, X38 mobo, 9600GT, etc etc. u sponsor? 10Q in advance ya...kekekeke.... your OC maybe lack of voltage power, when u get back try up them a bit and try again. This post has been edited by edministrator: Mar 2 2008, 11:04 PM
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herojack41	Mar 3 2008, 08:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #166
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	fylon....can help me buy 1 nice thermal grease? i never been to lowyat before
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busta_dude	Mar 3 2008, 09:48 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #167
Casual Junior Member 302 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Bangi	http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=642097&hl= Check this out guys. Maybe you interested with the stuff...
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fylon	Mar 3 2008, 11:21 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #168
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Edmin Haha.. No problem. I will gunting all the picture from the paper then give it to u. @Busta Guess ur moving on dark side already huh.. Good luck on ur sales! Anyone need 30cap procs and XFX7800GS do pm me.. HAha!
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busta_dude	Mar 3 2008, 11:26 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #169
Casual Junior Member 302 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Bangi	@fylon Yalor...currently involve some multimedia n programming business. My rig seems like won't go for it anymore. Thought on Core 2 Duo as my solution. Anybody here interested with the item?????
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sang_karim	Mar 3 2008, 11:48 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #170
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	@busta_dude yeah .. interested if it's comes for free ... joke .. joke ... gud luck in ur sales dude .. my gc driver finally ok .... i'm using cd installer from my radeon 9250 ... .. dunno what is the problem actually .. i'm just happy that can use the card at last ... fylon oredi fly to kl ... shoping kaw2 aaa fylon?
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busta_dude	Mar 3 2008, 12:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #171
Casual Junior Member 302 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Bangi	Guys you think how much the good price on letting go my 7800GS?Also my Corsair XMS 2*512?
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fylon	Mar 3 2008, 01:07 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #172
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@busta_dude Haha.. To tell the truth.. The 78GS might only worth around 350-300 in between. As i saw many seller let go their 76GT at the price of RM280-310. And i got my 76GT @ RM250. And ya Corsair XMS.. I got mine with the price of RM160 include shipping.. What do u think? And the one i get still is PC4400 which is DDR550 and based on TCCD chip.
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TSraymond5105	Mar 3 2008, 01:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #173
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Nice items for sale,fylon you are going to build another monster rig for yourself?
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fylon	Mar 3 2008, 01:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #174
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@raymond5105 Dont want already.. Now abit phobia with the OC'ed card.. Cant push further from the stock. Making another rigs will gonna burnt some holes on my pocket thou. No money dy..
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Redundant	Mar 3 2008, 01:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #175
Gundam Freak Senior Member 1,713 posts Joined: Feb 2005	QUOTE(sang_karim @ Mar 3 2008, 11:48 AM) @busta_dude yeah .. interested if it's comes for free ... joke .. joke ... gud luck in ur sales dude .. my gc driver finally ok .... i'm using cd installer from my radeon 9250 ... .. dunno what is the problem actually .. i'm just happy that can use the card at last ... fylon oredi fly to kl ... shoping kaw2 aaa fylon? ati 9250 shoud use the older drivers (6.5)... ver 7.XX and 8.XX is not compatible with it... dl it here =)
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herojack41	Mar 3 2008, 02:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #176
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	@RAY ray korkor....any idea on da driver?
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ReaperOfSoul	Mar 3 2008, 04:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #177
On my way Senior Member 648 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: TTDI	Just now installed Assasins Creed. Was so happy because managed to get into the game But when i went in i only saw white screen Wasted my hard work for making it work . My Graphic card doesnt support SM 3.0 . I think thats the problem . Now so angry . Btw if anyone want to sell their 7series graphic card pls pm me Sell cheap cheap yeah
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sang_karim	Mar 3 2008, 04:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #178
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(Redundant @ Mar 3 2008, 01:52 PM) ati 9250 shoud use the older drivers (6.5)... ver 7.XX and 8.XX is not compatible with it... dl it here =) i've oradi try the official driver and omega driver but didn't work ... as long the card can be detected .. i'm ok with that ...
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sniperz11	Mar 3 2008, 04:07 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #179
Casual Junior Member 400 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: KL	@everyone My Gc is DDR3, so it = 7600... Here is my 3Dmark05 score when i run on stock speed... And here is when i overclock... Hehehe, what u all think... I think my rig on average only... But i happy with it...
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edministrator	Mar 3 2008, 04:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #180
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(ReaperOfSoul @ Mar 3 2008, 04:02 PM) Just now installed Assasins Creed. Was so happy because managed to get into the game But when i went in i only saw white screen Wasted my hard work for making it work . My Graphic card doesnt support SM 3.0 . I think thats the problem . Now so angry . Btw if anyone want to sell their 7series graphic card pls pm me Sell cheap cheap yeah busta_dude wanna let go his 7800GS. PM him!
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fylon	Mar 3 2008, 04:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #181
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@ReaperOfSoul Yea.. Busta is going to let go his XFX 7900GS Extreme Edition. U may refer to his thread. But well.. Prepare atleast 350 for this card. Note that.. Its AT LEAST 350. http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=642097&hl=
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TSraymond5105	Mar 3 2008, 04:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #182
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(herojack41 @ Mar 3 2008, 02:56 PM) @RAY ray korkor....any idea on da driver? Really hard to find drivers for your modem. I see some one is selling similar modem .Maybe you can PM and ask him about the driver and see. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/436692
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busta_dude	Mar 3 2008, 04:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #183
Casual Junior Member 302 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Bangi	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 3 2008, 04:08 PM) @ReaperOfSoul Yea.. Busta is going to let go his XFX 7900GS Extreme Edition. U may refer to his thread. But well.. Prepare atleast 350 for this card. Note that.. Its AT LEAST 350. http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=642097&hl= 7800GS la fylon. U put up so high xpectation la. Haha. Actually I expect my sweet baby (7800GS EE) will earn more coz this is kinda rare gem. This post has been edited by busta_dude: Mar 3 2008, 04:36 PM
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ReaperOfSoul	Mar 3 2008, 04:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #184
On my way Senior Member 648 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: TTDI	Im planning to sell off my X800GTO..How much i can sell with this card ? Thanks Edit: 7800GS can play Assasins Creed? When i check system requirements it says that i need dual core proc to run it. Is it true / really needed? Added on March 3, 2008, 4:41 pmNvm lar I think ill just get a C2Q rig soon This post has been edited by ReaperOfSoul: Mar 3 2008, 04:41 PM
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fylon	Mar 3 2008, 04:43 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #185
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@ReaperOfSoul Haha.. Yea! The specs says need to have Dual Core proc in order to play that. Well.. Havent give a try for that game. Not sure about the requirement is true or not thou. X800 series is a good card but just it wasnt SM3 card. Maybe around RM2500-300 is the best price that u can hook for ur card. Has stay at garage sales for quite sometime.. Roughly the price are around that. @busta_dude Ops.. Haha! My bad. Wrong info. Btw.. That time i saw a forumer sell off his Galaxy 7900GS with 2 years plus warranty for the price of RM400. I think is kinda hard to hook up good price anyways as if urs the warranty period has been over. This post has been edited by fylon: Mar 3 2008, 04:44 PM
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TSraymond5105	Mar 3 2008, 05:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #186
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	More and more ppl are going to the dark side already.Anyway,the 78GS is quite a strong performer.This card still have a certain market value even it's already stop for production.
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fylon	Mar 3 2008, 06:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #187
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Ray Haha.. Yea! Higher pipeline and vertax shader. And also it was having 256bit memory inteface..
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herojack41	Mar 3 2008, 08:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #188
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	@ray thanks ray
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KahLooN	Mar 3 2008, 11:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #189
~(^^)~ Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Cheras	Lately everyone is letting off their sc478 rig, guess sooner or later not much users will left. Well, indeed the 7800GS is strong for its range. So whoever searching an AGP card should not look else where, juz get that card from busta_dude.
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fylon	Mar 3 2008, 11:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #190
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@KahLooN Haha.. How about u? Moving soon as well? Guess not much old school user left thou. So far active user are few only only. Guys dont let go so easily. AGP HD3000 series is coming!!
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KahLooN	Mar 3 2008, 11:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #191
~(^^)~ Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Cheras	@fylon Haha, i guess im not switching to dark side. I don't need so much processing power as im juz ordinary users. LOL~, AGP HD3000. Guess it would be waste for AGP users since the CPU will heavily bottleneck the card itself.
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Tanakwagu_noh	Mar 3 2008, 11:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #192
Photographer Senior Member 866 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: "Pak Pak Kangku Noh"	after bought new raptor psu ..i realise that psu cable was to big and cannot fit in to original socket that only 8 pin..what psu brand do you use..
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khai84siong	Mar 3 2008, 11:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #193
Getting Started Junior Member 249 posts Joined: Jul 2007 From: ~Some where over the rainbow~	yup i agree with KahLooN, the cpu will bottle neck the gc itself see for example our s478 3dmark06 CPU score i think every1 score would be in the range 800-1000 right? i myself also quite disappointed with the score CPU test FPS doesnt even reach 1FPS, its only 0.5FPS
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herojack41	Mar 4 2008, 12:00 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #194
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 3 2008, 11:21 PM) @KahLooN Haha.. How about u? Moving soon as well? Guess not much old school user left thou. So far active user are few only only. Guys dont let go so easily. AGP HD3000 series is coming!! fylon....i dun think have much ppl will funding hd 3xxx on agp....i rather get pci-e
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KahLooN	Mar 4 2008, 01:55 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #195
~(^^)~ Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Cheras	@khaisiong Yeah, our CPU can't produce enough power for the GC to work at it top. So no point investing in a super high-end card unless you want those extra feature on the HD3000 series. @herojack Yeah, save the money and invest on other parts is much better. But still there is plenty users sticking on the old school rigs, that is why ATI no giving up on AGP platform.
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herojack41	Mar 4 2008, 06:19 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #196
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(KahLooN @ Mar 4 2008, 01:55 AM) @khaisiong Yeah, our CPU can't produce enough power for the GC to work at it top. So no point investing in a super high-end card unless you want those extra feature on the HD3000 series. @herojack Yeah, save the money and invest on other parts is much better. But still there is plenty users sticking on the old school rigs, that is why ATI no giving up on AGP platform. yes...cause agp x8 motherboard already stop making liao.......
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TSraymond5105	Mar 4 2008, 09:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #197
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(khai84siong @ Mar 3 2008, 11:50 PM) yup i agree with KahLooN, the cpu will bottle neck the gc itself see for example our s478 3dmark06 CPU score i think every1 score would be in the range 800-1000 right? i myself also quite disappointed with the score CPU test FPS doesnt even reach 1FPS, its only 0.5FPS 76GT only manage to score 800-1000 marks only? That's really low. You are running on stock proc speed?
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kabukiawie	Mar 4 2008, 04:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #198
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@raymond how's yours?? maybe we can try benchmark our cpu using 3dmark06 and see how far can our 478 can go... ou....i have to download 3dmark06... hmm....
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khai84siong	Mar 4 2008, 04:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #199
Getting Started Junior Member 249 posts Joined: Jul 2007 From: ~Some where over the rainbow~	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Mar 4 2008, 09:13 AM) 76GT only manage to score 800-1000 marks only? That's really low. You are running on stock proc speed? for CPU score only, that time i can only oc my ram to 210Mhz (3.147Ghz my proc speed) so my proc score was 928 only if i nt mistaken fylon did post his 3dmark06 score in previous post i not sure where ad, but bis score was around >1000 also IMO no matter how fast we oc our s478 we cant exceed the CPU score of 1100 or 1200 for 3dmark06 hence our 3dmark06 score cant achieve vy high mark although we have a very good gc (but the SM2.0 score and HDR/SM3.0 score of the gc will be quite high though )
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TSraymond5105	Mar 4 2008, 06:01 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #200
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Mar 4 2008, 04:10 PM) @raymond how's yours?? maybe we can try benchmark our cpu using 3dmark06 and see how far can our 478 can go... ou....i have to download 3dmark06... hmm.... Using my 9550 to run?Or just want to try on the CPU score only? QUOTE(khai84siong @ Mar 4 2008, 04:38 PM) for CPU score only, that time i can only oc my ram to 210Mhz (3.147Ghz my proc speed) so my proc score was 928 only if i nt mistaken fylon did post his 3dmark06 score in previous post i not sure where ad, but bis score was around >1000 also IMO no matter how fast we oc our s478 we cant exceed the CPU score of 1100 or 1200 for 3dmark06 hence our 3dmark06 score cant achieve vy high mark although we have a very good gc (but the SM2.0 score and HDR/SM3.0 score of the gc will be quite high though ) Opps,maybe can ask fylon about his CPU score.I've no idea on it.Our CPU seems like really hold back the GC by a lot in 3D mark 06.
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fylon	Mar 4 2008, 06:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #201
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Woah.. Just home from lowyat.. Guess what i hunted? Razer Krait & Razer XactMat + Exact Rest. Hunt down some cheap gaming gear.. Well well.. Oh yea.. Not to sey the HD3 series.. I guess our system also bottle Nvidia 78/79 series & ATI 19xx series lo. Yup. Do run 3Dmark06 on my system before. That time was comparing with siong! My pc score was around 1000+.. Forgot the exact value already. Hm.. Maybe 4Ghz of speed can break 1.1k i guess. Well.. Just an assumption. Haha..
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edministrator	Mar 4 2008, 06:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #202
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 4 2008, 06:46 PM) Woah.. Just home from lowyat.. Guess what i hunted? Razer Krait & Razer XactMat + Exact Rest. Hunt down some cheap gaming gear.. Well well.. Oh yea.. Not to sey the HD3 series.. I guess our system also bottle Nvidia 78/79 series & ATI 19xx series lo. Yup. Do run 3Dmark06 on my system before. That time was comparing with siong! My pc score was around 1000+.. Forgot the exact value already. Hm.. Maybe 4Ghz of speed can break 1.1k i guess. Well.. Just an assumption. Haha.. nice...but alang alang.... should have gotten a luxurious keyboard also to match the razer...
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fylon	Mar 4 2008, 07:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #203
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@edmin Yea.. Count the price before i bought. Seems like postage cost more then bought on the spot then grab it @ All IT. Luxurious keyboard? Expensive bro.. Tarantula & Lycosa price are all above RM3xx.. Thats a pain to invest. Not now la.. When i got extra penny to spend on it than buy. Edit: Double Post.. Wireless connection here kinda sux. This post has been edited by fylon: Mar 4 2008, 07:34 PM
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herojack41	Mar 4 2008, 07:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #204
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	@fylon look at da sky today.....and some popular area like sungei wang...mostly those maxis and celcom wireless bandwitdh already exceeded limit....im maxis and celcom agent too Added on March 4, 2008, 7:59 pmangkat la streamyx dari saye...sekarang ade promosi....dengan fixed line..bayar rm110 sudah include fixed monthly rental dan 1mbps+free modem This post has been edited by herojack41: Mar 4 2008, 11:22 PM
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kabukiawie	Mar 4 2008, 09:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #205
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@raymond aiyo.... i still have my 478 with 73GT la.... cant run 3dmark06 on my socketA+9550. haha... just wondering hows our rig can go... but i think should be not much better as old tech hardly push far with the new benchmark due to single core.
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edministrator	Mar 4 2008, 09:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #206
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	no need benchmark la... bench here bench there with new software but old hardware, sure make u feel stressed out one, why bother? Don't benchy, be happy! Want to benchy? try 3Dmark2k1 or 3Dmark2k, sure happy, hehehe... This post has been edited by edministrator: Mar 4 2008, 09:53 PM
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kabukiawie	Mar 4 2008, 11:51 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #207
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@Ed haha... i know... thats why i dont install 3dmark05, 06. take tons of spaces and make me feddup. i dont install 3dmark2k la, 01 and 03 is just fine. well.... now all running stock. no point running oc but don use is heavily. hahaha..... aim for long term.
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TSraymond5105	Mar 5 2008, 09:39 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #208
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@kabu,i also don't install the 3D mark 05 & 06. They are heavy for my GC and processor too.I can suggest you to use Sandra if you want,you may directly compare your benchmark of your proc to other newer procs like C2D.By the time you see it,you will know our old school is not really powerful.
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fylon	Mar 5 2008, 09:56 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #209
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Ray, edmin & Kabu Lol.. I installed all the Futuremark software series to my system thou. Beside 3Dmark01 the rest like 03,05,06 & PC mark 05 all got. Just to try out see what the softare exactly is ma.. I second edmin's work, all hardware.. Cant expect much from it but atleast know how our rigs go. Yesterday go LYP.. Gosh! Those 9 series GC are hang like "kiam hu" aka salted fish on the shop. Kuching really no fight. Haha.. By then, i still saw some shop selling 2nd hand P4 proc thou. saw 1 3.0E @ RM250.. @herojack41 My place at Cheras dude.. Yesterday night the streamyx was down for 3 hrs right before can connect back.
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edministrator	Mar 5 2008, 10:02 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #210
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 5 2008, 09:56 AM) @Ray, edmin & Kabu Lol.. I installed all the Futuremark software series to my system thou. Beside 3Dmark01 the rest like 03,05,06 & PC mark 05 all got. Just to try out see what the softare exactly is ma.. I second edmin's work, all hardware.. Cant expect much from it but atleast know how our rigs go. Yesterday go LYP.. Gosh! Those 9 series GC are hang like "kiam hu" aka salted fish on the shop. Kuching really no fight. Haha.. By then, i still saw some shop selling 2nd hand P4 proc thou. saw 1 3.0E @ RM250.. if kuchingnites having a 1st trip to LYP, sure jammed there, the varieties available really a lot more compared to out hometown market. well, me & kabu will be there year end to see the kiam hu...hahaha.. i would say benchmark does not matter, the thing that matters most is that your s478 can your rig satisfy your needs, or are you satisfied with what u have.
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fylon	Mar 5 2008, 10:11 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #211
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Yea.. Well.. The biggest IT store for the moment at kch i guess should be PC Image.. But heck.. I heard that Boulevard IT is going to slay down PC Image. Dont did u u guys feel that or not.. Wherever PC Image got their branch, Boulevard sure will establish another 1 on the same spot. Well.. Good also.. So we got more choice. Survey the whole day.. Seems like ALL IT stuffs are cheaper thou. Didnt been there for few years already.. Oh yea.. But somehow just hand itchy right after done some tweaking.. Just wan to try out see how much our old rigs can do.
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edministrator	Mar 5 2008, 10:24 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #212
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Mar 4 2008, 11:51 PM) @Ed haha... i know... thats why i dont install 3dmark05, 06. take tons of spaces and make me feddup. i dont install 3dmark2k la, 01 and 03 is just fine. well.... now all running stock. no point running oc but don use is heavily. hahaha..... aim for long term. doesn't that mean running stock speed for you would result in your RAM running only in 333Mhz for 4 x 512MB? Added on March 5, 2008, 10:26 am QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 5 2008, 10:11 AM) Yea.. Well.. The biggest IT store for the moment at kch i guess should be PC Image.. But heck.. I heard that Boulevard IT is going to slay down PC Image. Dont did u u guys feel that or not.. Wherever PC Image got their branch, Boulevard sure will establish another 1 on the same spot. Well.. Good also.. So we got more choice. Survey the whole day.. Seems like ALL IT stuffs are cheaper thou. Didnt been there for few years already.. Oh yea.. But somehow just hand itchy right after done some tweaking.. Just wan to try out see how much our old rigs can do. support kaw kaw u pushing the limit, update us on your oc journey Btw, more choice is another matter, what matters the most to me is best bang for the buck, don't suck blood lah... This post has been edited by edministrator: Mar 5 2008, 10:26 AM
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TSraymond5105	Mar 5 2008, 12:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #213
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon,update us with your new o/c result if have.Me,kabu and edmin are waiting for you.You are correct,all the IT stuff in LYP are cheaper compare to other places.Even in my hometown,Kajang there is an All IT Hyper but the shop there is lame.Lack of latest products.
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fylon	Mar 5 2008, 01:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #214
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Ray Haha.. Cant put all hope on me la.. Guess i near hit the wall already. Well.. Still having edmin suggestion by up the vagp to the max and see what is going on. Might be also the problem of running 4dimm at a time. Oh yea.. At LYP not all shop are cheap, gotta survey from the bottom to the top right before purchase anything. Otherwise sure regret if bought at rush. I got my razer mice with RM95 whether i saw some shop sell it for RM129 without less.
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herojack41	Mar 5 2008, 01:43 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #215
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	@fylon wherever u are.....also can register streamyx...unless u at singapore...i cant help u register
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edministrator	Mar 5 2008, 01:51 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #216
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(herojack41 @ Mar 5 2008, 01:43 PM) @fylon wherever u are.....also can register streamyx...unless u at singapore...i cant help u register this post need to move to trading section ler bro...
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blonely	Mar 5 2008, 01:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #217
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	really long time din comes up d... already V6 11 pages.. ==" guys still vr active ya~
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edministrator	Mar 5 2008, 02:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #218
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 5 2008, 01:17 PM) @Ray Haha.. Cant put all hope on me la.. Guess i near hit the wall already. Well.. Still having edmin suggestion by up the vagp to the max and see what is going on. Might be also the problem of running 4dimm at a time. Oh yea.. At LYP not all shop are cheap, gotta survey from the bottom to the top right before purchase anything. Otherwise sure regret if bought at rush. I got my razer mice with RM95 whether i saw some shop sell it for RM129 without less. i up the vAGP to 1.8, keeps my system stable and the AGP card temp is still like normal during load and idle (the power of zalman HSF! ). Previously having random crashing back to desktop when playing CnC3 with 1.6v. (no issue in orthos) Fed up and increase all the way to v1.8. Problem solved.
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fylon	Mar 5 2008, 02:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #219
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@blonely Haha.. Yea! Ofcause active.. Old school still rocking @ss! Some of the user here still pump their rigs with better gear. @Edmin Owh? Having issues with C&C3? Maybe is because ur pumping ur card right? Alright.. Will give a try when i go back to kch next week. Wanna go midvelly now. @herojack41 If @ sing, i would go for sing tel / starhub already... Get rid of screamyx!
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herojack41	Mar 5 2008, 03:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #220
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 5 2008, 02:17 PM) @blonely Haha.. Yea! Ofcause active.. Old school still rocking @ss! Some of the user here still pump their rigs with better gear. @Edmin Owh? Having issues with C&C3? Maybe is because ur pumping ur card right? Alright.. Will give a try when i go back to kch next week. Wanna go midvelly now. @herojack41 If @ sing, i would go for sing tel / starhub already... Get rid of screamyx! haha.....but so far...i din encounter any streamyx blocking or bad service o ...my package were 66 512k...so far so good...bt or http download max 50 on http 55~65 bt download
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kabukiawie	Mar 5 2008, 03:44 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #221
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@herojack wao..... you seems very desperate want to sell you streamyx here. trading thread please. or just make it in pm. @fylon kuching stuff never update fast enough and price sky high. nice grab for the great mouse. @Ed haha..... not bad. up vagp really can help stabilize the system more especially when oc. since the temp doesnt go up, adding more juice to it should be harmless.
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fylon	Mar 5 2008, 04:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #222
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Kabu Haha.. Kch stuff are only few % catch up to new tech. I hope the soon opening stall, Boulevard IT at Saberkas 3rd floor (next to my previous work place) can bring in some better stuff. :shakhead: Oh yea.. The mice! Actually save my penny for this item for quite sometime. Haha.. Finally got it. And also the pad.. Not bad lo.. Use for gaming! This post has been edited by fylon: Mar 5 2008, 04:30 PM
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kabukiawie	Mar 5 2008, 04:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #223
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	feddup with kuching market already. Fylon, where arepics on your new toys??
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fylon	Mar 5 2008, 04:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #224
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Haha.. Not now la.. Still in box.. Place here dont have card reader and bluetooth.. Well.. Not own house abit hard to upload lo.
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herojack41	Mar 5 2008, 07:04 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #225
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	@kabu i still left rm500 my darkside rig is up sorry abt off topic
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edministrator	Mar 5 2008, 07:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #226
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(herojack41 @ Mar 5 2008, 07:04 PM) @kabu i still left rm500 my darkside rig is up sorry abt off topic left RM500 only? wow, good luck bro! hope 2 c your new monster rig soon. Added on March 5, 2008, 7:39 pm QUOTE(herojack41 @ Mar 5 2008, 03:42 PM) haha.....but so far...i din encounter any streamyx blocking or bad service o ...my package were 66 512k...so far so good...bt or http download max 50 on http 55~65 bt download same speed here. This post has been edited by edministrator: Mar 5 2008, 07:39 PM
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KahLooN	Mar 5 2008, 07:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #227
~(^^)~ Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Cheras	@herojack41 Dude, we can't wait for your new rig coming. So far what have you bought? @fylon Why new stuffs put inside box? Not good you know, once bought it must use. LOL~
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fylon	Mar 5 2008, 08:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #228
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@KahLooN Wanna match it with my pearl.. Keep in box 1st.. Wait i go back then take pic lo. @Edmin OT abit.. Which screamyx package are u using? Haha.. I on the cheapest one.. 512kb type.. Duh! Anyways, not all the P2P file that i DL been throttle, just some of it. Mostly if the tracker/seeder is from Europe then i will facing throttling problem. Otherwise, those anime/drama which is chinese sub's it got no throttling problem for me.
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edministrator	Mar 5 2008, 08:44 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #229
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 5 2008, 08:35 PM) @Edmin OT abit.. Which screamyx package are u using? Haha.. I on the cheapest one.. 512kb type.. Duh! Anyways, not all the P2P file that i DL been throttle, just some of it. Mostly if the tracker/seeder is from Europe then i will facing throttling problem. Otherwise, those anime/drama which is chinese sub's it got no throttling problem for me. same, cheapskate package 512kbps. no throttle issue for me so far. ang moh series still top speed. my DVDR supply running out fast. Can u help me get cheap verbatim/mitsubishi DVDR? need 200pcs. PM me pls if u can assist. My supplier running out of stock, left only cheapo DVDR To stay in topic for this thread, I am using my s478 as the ultimate burning machine also... This post has been edited by edministrator: Mar 5 2008, 08:45 PM
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overclockalbert	Mar 5 2008, 08:57 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #230
Regular Senior Member 1,058 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Penang , Malaysia	QUOTE(herojack41 @ Mar 5 2008, 08:04 PM) @kabu i still left rm500 my darkside rig is up sorry abt off topic bro herojack41, can list you new rig spec??? are you in penang? can go out yam char.....
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overclockalbert	Mar 5 2008, 08:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #231
Regular Senior Member 1,058 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Penang , Malaysia	QUOTE(edministrator @ Mar 5 2008, 09:44 PM) same, cheapskate package 512kbps. no throttle issue for me so far. ang moh series still top speed. my DVDR supply running out fast. Can u help me get cheap verbatim/mitsubishi DVDR? need 200pcs. PM me pls if u can assist. My supplier running out of stock, left only cheapo DVDR To stay in topic for this thread, I am using my s478 as the ultimate burning machine also... i plan to get the 2mb penangfon broadband for rm60. any penang user here????????
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pengster	Mar 5 2008, 09:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #232
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	OMFG. SINCE WHEN BECOME V6 adi? i need to lurk moar. anyways,sup guys?have been away cause of exams.haih.
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fylon	Mar 5 2008, 10:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #233
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Edmin Lol.. I see this saturday got chance go lowyat again or not.. If got, a day before i will pm u. @pengster Haha.. It has been quite sometime already since V6 is born. Well.. Still kicking ass..
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sniperz11	Mar 6 2008, 03:08 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #234
Casual Junior Member 400 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: KL	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 5 2008, 10:18 PM) @Edmin Lol.. I see this saturday got chance go lowyat again or not.. If got, a day before i will pm u. Pm me also... Hehehe, just joke... BTW, my friend need some help... He detect this problem last night... Why when he open winamp and want to open sumthing like internet browser... The sound like have problem (the song hang a bit and noise come out)... And when he watch movie at Window Media Player the sound also come out noise... Sometime the sound is nice and clear... It is sound card problem??? Or anything else... Becoz when use onboard sound... The problem also happen but very little... Added on March 6, 2008, 4:22 am Another infos... Cable problem??? Cable is nice... Sound card prob??? Sound is out (if sound card problem maybe no sound at all)... Device manager show all in good condition... This post has been edited by sniperz11: Mar 6 2008, 04:22 AM
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kabukiawie	Mar 6 2008, 09:58 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #235
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@sniperz11 hmm.... whats his pc spec?? for some older pc this problem always happen due to the cpu usage spike when a new program is loaded. or try reinstall the sound driver. @fylon, Edmin same cheapskate streamyx here, 512kb package since 2004.
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edministrator	Mar 6 2008, 10:35 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #236
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	@ sniperz11, That could also happen if your IDE controller revert your PATA HDD back to PIO mode instead or UDMA. Access rate not fast enough to feed your application needs causing stutters.
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Redundant	Mar 6 2008, 11:36 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #237
Gundam Freak Senior Member 1,713 posts Joined: Feb 2005	guys, love ur old school rig! dun buy new high tech computers... ppl will stop producing super computers and processors when there's no demand... we can stop judgement day!!! lolx! btw, too poor to buy a new rig for game... love assassin's creed so much but couldnt play it... huhu =(
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fylon	Mar 6 2008, 11:59 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #238
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@kabu Yea.. Same.. I start using the screamyx since '04. @sniperz11 Give a try on edmin suggestion.. He knows more then us here. @Redundant 2nd ur words.. See now? 32nm is going to come out in another 2 years. C2D which based on conroe will be replaced by penryn soon. No point to get migrate to dark side for now. Not worth it.. 2-3months price drop / new stuff coming out. Duh.. Same thing happen to GC. So just stick to old school if we really dont need that much powah for our daily task.
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sniperz11	Mar 6 2008, 12:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #239
Casual Junior Member 400 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: KL	My friend want to ask... Can we mix RAM 333Mhz with RAM 400Mhz... Cause he just upgrade the RAM...
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fylon	Mar 6 2008, 12:07 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #240
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@sniperz11 Sure.. Why not? But just, the DDR400 will run at DDR333 lo. It will not gonna run at the full speed. Btw, how was ur new GC sniperz11? Any benchmark up to share? Just a 3Dmark03 will do already..
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sniperz11	Mar 6 2008, 12:11 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #241
Casual Junior Member 400 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: KL	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Mar 6 2008, 09:58 AM) @sniperz11 hmm.... whats his pc spec?? for some older pc this problem always happen due to the cpu usage spike when a new program is loaded. or try reinstall the sound driver. My friend spec... CPU --> 3.0HT @ stock RAM --> 1GB but he say it mix with 333 & 400... Sound card --> Creative X-Fi Xtreme Audio... HDD --> 40GB + 40GB Western Digital IDE... Added on March 6, 2008, 12:20 pm QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 6 2008, 12:07 PM) @sniperz11 Btw, how was ur new GC sniperz11? Any benchmark up to share? Just a 3Dmark03 will do already.. Hehehe... I run 3Dmark 05... Get 60++... At stock speed... When overclock get around 63++... Dont know ok or not... This post has been edited by sniperz11*: Mar 6 2008, 12:20 PM
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herojack41	Mar 6 2008, 02:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #242
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(edministrator @ Mar 5 2008, 07:39 PM) left RM500 only? wow, good luck bro! hope 2 c your new monster rig soon. Added on March 5, 2008, 7:39 pm same speed here. thanks....later my darkside rig up...u teach me do bench bench ar QUOTE(KahLooN @ Mar 5 2008, 07:48 PM) @herojack41 Dude, we can't wait for your new rig coming. So far what have you bought? @fylon Why new stuffs put inside box? Not good you know, once bought it must use. LOL~ haha...kahloon so far i have bought a E6300 and still have rm500 left QUOTE(overclockalbert @ Mar 5 2008, 08:57 PM) bro herojack41, can list you new rig spec??? are you in penang? can go out yam char..... my new rig spec? still thinking for mobo & gc only OT:fylon....512k for student damn enough mau register ker ?u can pm those below my siggy de ppl....all get darn fast service from me
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blonely	Mar 6 2008, 04:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #243
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	@overclockalbert when i training in penang i had use the penangfon b4...still new establish when i training last march. when start subscibe it the line is vr unstable tat time. when i playing blue server that time the game spike(lagging periodically) like hell... then after about a week is steady d... then...i download 5Gb anime.....i start download when i go work...when i come bec its done~~ This post has been edited by blonely: Mar 6 2008, 04:34 PM
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herojack41	Mar 6 2008, 04:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #244
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	@over i at kl here lol
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kabukiawie	Mar 6 2008, 07:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #245
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@sniperz maybe you can try Edmin's method. the rig seems no problem to me. are there any background program running?? as i know some torrent client is quite resource hungry. @fylon hahaha.... mostly old streamys users like us are using that package.
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pengster	Mar 6 2008, 07:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #246
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 5 2008, 10:18 PM) @Edmin Lol.. I see this saturday got chance go lowyat again or not.. If got, a day before i will pm u. @pengster Haha.. It has been quite sometime already since V6 is born. Well.. Still kicking ass.. lol damn im so outdated btw guys,i tested out another proc on my P4P800x,which is a P4 2.4Ghz 400FSB.not sure what stepping it is.and it cant work
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blonely	Mar 6 2008, 10:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #247
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	@pengster last time when my mobo come, the P4P800, when i installed the P4 2.8 533FSB, it also cant work... still cant figure out wats the problem....
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kabukiawie	Mar 7 2008, 12:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #248
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@pengster i think it should be 2.4a northwood. whats the syntom?? have power? or just the fan is spinning without booting? what comes into my mind should be the ram. i have p4p800x in use now. i faced ram timing problem when i want to run 2-2-2-5@266mhz on my ddr400 but failed, 2-3-3-5 is fine. i afraid that is the SPD timingfor the ram(maybe yours ddr400) is too tight running at 200mhz(maybe is 2-2-2-5?), so end out mobo wont boot. just my 2 cents. i just point out my view according to my previous experience. if you have ddr266 or ddr333, try plug it in to try. i faced the same case running ddr400 on a AMD duron rig, use spd it detects my ram C2 and always hang halfway loadng windows or ram beeping sound comeout. when set C2.5 everything is normal again.
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overclockalbert	Mar 7 2008, 03:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #249
Regular Senior Member 1,058 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Penang , Malaysia	QUOTE(herojack41 @ Mar 6 2008, 05:34 PM) @over i at kl here lol ok then, thought you still in penang. rgds, albert Added on March 7, 2008, 3:18 am2nd ur words.. See now? 32nm is going to come out in another 2 years. C2D which based on conroe will be replaced by penryn soon. No point to get migrate to dark side for now. Not worth it.. 2-3months price drop / new stuff coming out. Duh.. Same thing happen to GC. So just stick to old school if we really dont need that much powah for our daily task. @fylon, this is very true! This post has been edited by overclockalbert: Mar 7 2008, 03:18 AM
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herojack41	Mar 7 2008, 06:25 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #250
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	@over another 2 years...i cant wait so long...i need comp use
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sang_karim	Mar 7 2008, 10:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #251
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	guys .. wanna ask .... rite now i'm using my SATA hdd for windows and IDE hdd for storage ... but after shut down and start pc again ... it's will detect my IDE hdd as 1st disk drive and SATA as 2nd disk drive ... so i have to set all the things again in bios b4 start my pc ... then after shut down and want to use pc again .. it's happen again .. is there anything setting that i missing?
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fylon	Mar 7 2008, 11:34 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #252
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@sniperz11 Haha.. Nice SC ur fren got. Ran 3Dmark03 to syok yaself. Dont run 3Dmark05 & 06.. Haha! Its a pain. @pengster Ur avatar logo make my hand itchy man.. My gear were just lying inside the paper beg now.. @Albert Haha.. Dont need to highlight my word and put it on red color please.. Anyways, im just tell the truth.. Here can see right.. Thing getting newer and newer, if really dont need so much power dont upgrade 1st.. Save ur penny for other thing. @sang_karim Its very normal for our mobo to detect IDE drive as the 1st or 2nd drive. As for my mobo, IDE drive are detect up to 4 place. Only the 5th and 6th drive will be assign to my sata drive. And for ur problem, it probably is cause my ur BIOS battery weak already. Thats what whatever job that u done in BIOS and it cannot be saved into the chip. Try change a new BIOS battery and see how was it. This post has been edited by fylon: Mar 7 2008, 11:34 AM
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sang_karim	Mar 7 2008, 12:05 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #253
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 7 2008, 11:34 AM) @sang_karim Its very normal for our mobo to detect IDE drive as the 1st or 2nd drive. As for my mobo, IDE drive are detect up to 4 place. Only the 5th and 6th drive will be assign to my sata drive. And for ur problem, it probably is cause my ur BIOS battery weak already. Thats what whatever job that u done in BIOS and it cannot be saved into the chip. Try change a new BIOS battery and see how was it. thanks for ur recomendation bro .. will try to change the cmos battery later ...
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fylon	Mar 7 2008, 12:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #254
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Haa.. No worried. I faced this kinda of problem before. Always is the CMOS battery got problem. Change it and i suppose ya problem with be solved.
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herojack41	Mar 7 2008, 02:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #255
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	@sang_karim yea...it might be your CMOS battery loosen or weak. hmm....sang have u face problem with da ghost on sata hdd?my board cant detect sata hdd......just only IDE hdd could detected while i need to make a ghost
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edministrator	Mar 7 2008, 03:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #256
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(herojack41 @ Mar 7 2008, 02:33 PM) @sang_karim hmm....sang have u face problem with da ghost on sata hdd?my board cant detect sata hdd......just only IDE hdd could detected while i need to make a ghost Your bootdisk does not include native SATA drivers
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herojack41	Mar 7 2008, 04:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #257
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(edministrator @ Mar 7 2008, 03:14 PM) Your bootdisk does not include native SATA drivers erk...sata also got driver?
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sang_karim	Mar 7 2008, 04:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #258
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(edministrator @ Mar 7 2008, 03:14 PM) Your bootdisk does not include native SATA drivers am i have to install the driver during windows setup? that what i have read ...
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edministrator	Mar 7 2008, 04:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #259
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(herojack41 @ Mar 7 2008, 04:02 PM) erk...sata also got driver? of course. actually, CDROM and IDE drives also needs driver loaded to be recognized by applications. @sang_karim, The drivers are not installed but rather 'loaded' to enable usage of drives for applications/installations.
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blonely	Mar 7 2008, 06:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #260
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	as what i know from my fren is that the old mobo will need to load the sata driver into the bios to enable the mobo to recognize the sata HDD but that is for quite old model's mobo wor...the recent model also need to load it? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- jz do some OC on my com and primed 2 hours no problem...plan to get higher... Vcore=1.60V DDR reference=2.85V timing 3 3 3 8 230Mhz x 15 = 3.45Ghz ratio 1:1 processor temperature around 32�C ^^ This post has been edited by blonely: Mar 7 2008, 06:24 PM
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sniperz11	Mar 7 2008, 07:05 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #261
Casual Junior Member 400 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: KL	@blonely... What Mobo u use???
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blonely	Mar 7 2008, 07:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #262
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	P4P800 as in my signature~
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sniperz11	Mar 7 2008, 08:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #263
Casual Junior Member 400 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: KL	Sorry don't notice it, hehehe... Ur Mobo & CPU same like me... I had overclocked my CPU to 3.6... It stable... But now i run it at 3.3 only...
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sniperz11	Mar 7 2008, 08:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #264
Casual Junior Member 400 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: KL	Can anyone suggest me a Spyware Sofware... I currently using Spyware Doc 5... But it using too much memory and CPU... I want to try Spyware Terminator... How u all think??? Or there is another better software... This post has been edited by sniperz11: Mar 7 2008, 08:25 PM
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TSraymond5105	Mar 7 2008, 08:55 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #265
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@blonely ,nice o/c over here. Perhaps you pro is able to go higher then 3.45GHz ...Pump more FSB to it..
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kabukiawie	Mar 7 2008, 10:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #266
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@blonely if you able to run it stable at 3.6GHz, why dont go for it??
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fylon	Mar 7 2008, 10:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #267
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@blonely Nice oc result u got. Keep it up man.. Btw, 1.6v vcore for northwood.. Will it a over dos? Gosh.. Btw, 2.85v for vdimm also seems abit over kill for me.. Are u using BH-5 chip? Haha.. Since just FSB230 guess it doesnt need that much voltage to keep the rigs stable. Try to reduce the power bump if can, so can keep the component live longer. @sniperz11 Hm.. Keep control on the website that u visit, and be alert for the files that u've downloaded. That can help u reduce the risk of been attack by spyware or trojan. Somehow i run my rigs with anti virus disable. For me, i dont use this kinda of software as is a resource hunger thiggy. U may can refer to edmin. He is the pro within few of us here.
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pengster	Mar 7 2008, 11:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #268
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(blonely @ Mar 6 2008, 10:17 PM) @pengster last time when my mobo come, the P4P800, when i installed the P4 2.8 533FSB, it also cant work... still cant figure out wats the problem.... QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Mar 7 2008, 12:09 AM) @pengster i think it should be 2.4a northwood. whats the syntom?? have power? or just the fan is spinning without booting? what comes into my mind should be the ram. i have p4p800x in use now. i faced ram timing problem when i want to run 2-2-2-5@266mhz on my ddr400 but failed, 2-3-3-5 is fine. i afraid that is the SPD timingfor the ram(maybe yours ddr400) is too tight running at 200mhz(maybe is 2-2-2-5?), so end out mobo wont boot. just my 2 cents. i just point out my view according to my previous experience. if you have ddr266 or ddr333, try plug it in to try. i faced the same case running ddr400 on a AMD duron rig, use spd it detects my ram C2 and always hang halfway loadng windows or ram beeping sound comeout. when set C2.5 everything is normal again. actually,what happened was this.my friend is using a P4 rig but his mobo only supports 4X AGP.and yet he has a 7600GS.so you know la the bottleneck and he wants another mobo that can fully utilize the card so i offered to sell to him my P4P800X. So i went to his place and set up everything and whala,doesnt work.its able to boot up and i can go into the bios but it cant load into windows. tried swapping all the rams (he has a few variants, DDR333 to DDR400) but still didnt work in whatever configuration i tried. I even brought my old DDR266 ram the next day to test it out but also couldnt work. however,the mobo was tested with another P4 proc and rams from another guy and it works.means that my mobo was not the problem.seems like his 2.4A's not compatible with my board. lol QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 7 2008, 11:34 AM) @sniperz11 Haha.. Nice SC ur fren got. Ran 3Dmark03 to syok yaself. Dont run 3Dmark05 & 06.. Haha! Its a pain. @pengster Ur avatar logo make my hand itchy man.. My gear were just lying inside the paper beg now.. @Albert Haha.. Dont need to highlight my word and put it on red color please.. Anyways, im just tell the truth.. Here can see right.. Thing getting newer and newer, if really dont need so much power dont upgrade 1st.. Save ur penny for other thing. @sang_karim Its very normal for our mobo to detect IDE drive as the 1st or 2nd drive. As for my mobo, IDE drive are detect up to 4 place. Only the 5th and 6th drive will be assign to my sata drive. And for ur problem, it probably is cause my ur BIOS battery weak already. Thats what whatever job that u done in BIOS and it cannot be saved into the chip. Try change a new BIOS battery and see how was it. new gaming gear,i see.
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blonely	Mar 8 2008, 03:32 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #269
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	@pengster mayb should change the HT setting? my proc aldi sold that time... not chance to trace the problem d... @fylon while im putting Auto for the Vcore, wat i observe in my Ai Booster is 1.58V and my ram voltage is just 2.65V if Auto for ram voltage, then it wont even even go over 225Mhz. @kabu jz try 3.6 with 1.6V Vcore and 2.85ram voltage.. but cant load into window. restart when start to loading...zzzzzzzzz.....
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overclockalbert	Mar 8 2008, 03:37 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #270
Regular Senior Member 1,058 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Penang , Malaysia	@blonely, your 3.0C was a 30capper? and seriously, 1.6V was way too much if wanna run 3.45Ghz. try lower it down further. 1.6V can be running 3.8Ghz iirc. i once have the 3.2C 30capper, running 1.6v can almost hit 4ghz. and for the vdimm, 2.75v is recomended. do not ever feed it up to 2.8V without active cooling. most ddr1 ram died due to over volt and extreme heat. rgds, albert
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fylon	Mar 8 2008, 12:11 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #271
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@blonely Man.. Ya vcore and vdimm all use the auto setting? That is dangerous fren.. Is better swith to manual add. Like what albert says, most of the ram were died due of over feed. And also ur proc voltage.. Northwood cant take as much voltage as Prescott does if im not mistaken. Try to lower the vcore as well. Hm.. Stuck at 3.6Ghz? Lol.. Did u loosen ur ram timing? Maybe 3-4-4-8? Might the ram cant take the tight timing.
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blonely	Mar 8 2008, 12:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #272
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	@fylon i din loosen.. =P yesterday i asked khaisiong about the voltage he set... but wat he told me is his presscott normal voltage will be around 1.40V...so he set abit higher.. coz my proc normal voltage is around 1.58 i thought the 1.6 is ok... because before i din push my rig...so i jz leave it default setting... thanks for the remind... then around wat voltage should i set it? @albert my proc not 30 cappers... and the ram.... i will try lower the vdimm see can hit higher or not.. thanks... Added on March 8, 2008, 12:58 pm@fylon just try to lower the vdimm and vcore for the 3.45Ghz when i lowered to Vcore 1.575 and vdimm 2.75, even with 3-4-4-8 ram timing it restart when start loading window... then i set it to Vcore 1.575 and Vdimm 2.85 it restart when loading window.... then i set it to Vcore 1.600 and Vdimm 2.85 it can load into window...with 3-3-3-8 timing..... no idea wat should i do.... the memory acceleration mode..we need to set it enable when OC? and the memory refresh rate and the memory.... forgot 1 more is wat d.. and performance mode. auto, standard or turbo? This post has been edited by blonely: Mar 8 2008, 12:58 PM
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fylon	Mar 8 2008, 01:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #273
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@blonely Haha.. Actually is over dos already. I only use up to 1.5v vcore when i hit 4Ghz.. Normally 1.45v is enough for me to stable my system on 15% OC. And my vdimm will never go more then 2.8v if i dint stress my system. Anyways, try up ur vagp to 1.8v when u try to hit 3.6Ghz. It might the NB lacking of power that why it run half way and restart. Waoh.. Seems like ur proc really a power hunger.. 1.6v actually is kinda dangerous lo. Hm.. Try disable the memory acceleration mode if u wana hit high OC. It dont help in OC. performance mode? That 1 i used to set to turbo it doesnt interrupt me on OC. What i concern is the memory acceleration mode. Have u try 3-4-4-8? This post has been edited by fylon: Mar 8 2008, 01:08 PM
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blonely	Mar 8 2008, 01:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #274
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	Now with Vcore=1.6 Vdimm=2.85 Vagp=1.80 timing = 3-4-4-8 i can load into window with 233Mhzx15 but restart while loading with 234Mhz x15...
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fylon	Mar 8 2008, 02:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #275
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Hit the OC wall already? Hm.. Have u try with other ratio instead of 1:1? Might be either ur proc / ram cannot hit high spd with 1:1 ratio. Try 5:4 ratio or 3:2. Almost like mine.. FSB255 bootable and stable but hang at FSB256. Btw, do u ever face ur system is booted on POST screen but just hang there?
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blonely	Mar 8 2008, 02:43 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #276
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	@fylon no...all is restart while loading the windows... about the 5:4 how should i set it? hehe...
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fylon	Mar 8 2008, 02:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #277
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Lol.. Mine i guess it because of the ram i set to 2.5-3-3-5 and run at FSB256! Thats why is dead on POST. Hm.. Change ur DDR400 to DDR333 and see whats the result. Might because of ur ram cannot hit high speed. By set to DDR333 and u OC it, it become we put more stress on the CPU then the ram. By then, i suppose its not the heat problem right.. Ur tuniq tower should do good on cool down ur proc. Somemore.. U're using Northwood.. No worry lo.
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pengster	Mar 8 2008, 03:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #278
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(blonely @ Mar 8 2008, 03:32 AM) @pengster mayb should change the HT setting? my proc aldi sold that time... not chance to trace the problem d... @fylon while im putting Auto for the Vcore, wat i observe in my Ai Booster is 1.58V and my ram voltage is just 2.65V if Auto for ram voltage, then it wont even even go over 225Mhz. @kabu jz try 3.6 with 1.6V Vcore and 2.85ram voltage.. but cant load into window. restart when start to loading...zzzzzzzzz..... HT settings on the board or the proc? cause that proc is a very old one,2.4Ghz 400FSB and 512 L2 cache.anyway my P4P800x was working with my current 2.4B so i doubt its has to do with the HT settings.
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blonely	Mar 8 2008, 03:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #279
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	hehe.... jz try out the setting.... butt the ram frequency have to set it auto then it can load into windows with 234FSB... 3:2 ratio.... if i fix it to any frequency i cant load into the window with 234FSB... the timing still vr lose... 3-4-4-8... guess i cant go any further aldi....haiz.... yes...the tuniq tower really satisfy me...it keep my proc around 32�C... Added on March 8, 2008, 3:51 pm@pengster not sure about it.....coz really dunno wat happen d.....hehe mayb jz like u say is incompatible....but when checked in the compatible list the proc last time i use is also in the list... so really duno wat happen back then... This post has been edited by blonely: Mar 8 2008, 07:43 PM
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pengster	Mar 8 2008, 07:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #280
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	Cant tighten the timings anymore? Try 3-3-3-8 or smth tighter la
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blonely	Mar 8 2008, 07:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #281
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	for FSB234 i think cant be tighten d.... haiz.... cant go any further.... since fylon said that 1.6V Vcore aldi dangerous level.... scare to pump in anymore d.... weird thing is my memory frequency let me choose are 266, 320, 400 there is no 333 ==" then if i put auto, load in window with FSB234 and check in cpuz, the DRAM frequency is 156... 3:2 ratio.... for FSB233.... yes... i can get with timing 3-3-3-8... but havent prime...just it can load into window...so dunno yet...
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fylon	Mar 9 2008, 01:02 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #282
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@pengster Lol.. Guess blonely owning a power hunger proc thou.. He need atleast 1.5v to stable down his system. @blonely Hm.. Thats weird.. DDR320? Haha.. I never saw that before. Well.. Mine was having DDR266, 333, 400, 500 & 533.. I love my current mobo. As last time my P4P800dlx only have 3 selection.. Well.. If ur rigs run on water cooled, then vcore 1.6v still ok. Otherwise, please keep it below 1.6v. Its a kill.. Have u disable the memory acceleration mode and set the performance mode to standard?
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blonely	Mar 9 2008, 01:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #283
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	yalo...i never even heard....zzzzz..... the memory acceleration only hv auto or enabled option....so i put auto lo... the performance mode was set to turbo....will try later... the Vcore...haiz....normal aldi 1.58V... zzzzzzz....haiz..... i hv 1 8cm fan blowing northbridge, 1 12cm fan blowing ram... 2 8cm fan(coupled) exhaust at the back, 1 8cm fan blowing HDD, 1 8cm fan suck out the air fr power supply.... actually the temperature quite cold inside..
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pengster	Mar 9 2008, 01:17 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #284
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	Hmm but if blonely's proc is a Northy,its alright at 1.6v right? Cause i used to set mine to 1.6v too
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fylon	Mar 9 2008, 01:29 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #285
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Pengster Hm.. Only FSB230 aka 15% from stock need so much powah feeded? Hm.. I not really sure with Northwood proc as i never own any before. But for Prescott 1.6v is an over kill already. Unless run at water cooled. @blonely Haha.. Change all ur fan to delta fan.. That 1 got muuuchhh more pOwah to cool down ur rigs. Btw, the memory acceleration mode set to auto means if ur FSB goes beyond >200 it will auto disable it. Dont worry. Lol.. If im not mistaken, the performance mode was something like tighten the NB timing. It might a pull down of why u cant hit 3.6Ghz. Try make it as normal and see how. Otherwise... 1.7v Vcore!!!
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blonely	Mar 9 2008, 01:51 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #286
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	wah....i scare ler.... i'm almost reach the due date of my thesis....hehe... 1.7V i think is too high... i'm OC while i do my thesis til too sien...hehe.... erm...my proc jz 32�C.... izzit not cold enuf? i never see it increase much... only the RPM of fan will change....
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fylon	Mar 9 2008, 02:01 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #287
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Haha.. Than stay at safe point 1st. Guess 3.45Ghz should be enough already right? Actually 15% OC from stock is very good already. Ofcause can find out the maximum spot for ya proc is better. Atleast u know how much it can go. Hm.. 32'c is actually very COOOOOOOLD already man. If u try Prescott then will know what is the pain. My rigs are running 10'c hotter then urs on current 3.68Ghz. What do u think man..
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TSraymond5105	Mar 9 2008, 12:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #288
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Guys,bored with overclock?Play with some downclock settings. @fylon,for Northwood default vCore is 1.525v.So raising to 1.6v is still fine for the core.Unlike Prescott,1.6v is already overkill for it. @pengster,you might slight decrease a bit the vCore if you want.Set to 1.575v if your mobo has the selection.I use only 1.575v to run at 3.68GHz. Attached thumbnail(s)
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blonely	Mar 9 2008, 03:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #289
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	now stay at 3.45Ghz....but ram timing tighten to 2.5-3-3-7... jz now run 3Dmarks with setting 3.45Ghz, timing 3-3-3-8... 01 - - - 18967 03 - - - 11.9k++ 05 - - - 6.6k++
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fylon	Mar 9 2008, 06:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #290
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@blonely Woah.. Finally stable at 3.45Ghz? Not bad lo.. 15% OC right? Haha.. FSB230 huh? Nice score u got.. Btw.. Ur x1650xt should be can score atleat 12k in 3Dmark03 right? My 76GT nearly bet 13k.
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sang_karim	Mar 9 2008, 09:27 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #291
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	@fylon after changing cmos battery the problem settled ... thanks dude ..
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pengster	Mar 9 2008, 10:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #292
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 9 2008, 01:29 AM) @Pengster Hm.. Only FSB230 aka 15% from stock need so much powah feeded? Hm.. I not really sure with Northwood proc as i never own any before. But for Prescott 1.6v is an over kill already. Unless run at water cooled. @blonely Haha.. Change all ur fan to delta fan.. That 1 got muuuchhh more pOwah to cool down ur rigs. Btw, the memory acceleration mode set to auto means if ur FSB goes beyond >200 it will auto disable it. Dont worry. Lol.. If im not mistaken, the performance mode was something like tighten the NB timing. It might a pull down of why u cant hit 3.6Ghz. Try make it as normal and see how. Otherwise... 1.7v Vcore!!! Yeah northy stock already 1.525v so 1.6v is not too bad.for prescott is damn dangerous tho @raymond my proc now is set at 1.55v but cpuz shows 1.545v.last time i used 1.6v is when i tried to go past 2700Mhz for my proc lol downclock,for torrenting? hahah
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fylon	Mar 9 2008, 11:05 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #293
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@sang_karim Lol.. No problem! @Ray & Pengster Haha.. My previous case still fresh in my mind.. Now im scare with shot high vcore for my procs. I try to maintain mine as low as it can. And i never use Northwood before.. Dont really know about its stock voltage.
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blonely	Mar 10 2008, 12:01 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #294
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	@fylon the 3Dmark... i also wonder why.... T-T for FSB230 i had prime it before.... i think i will stay for a while.... finish works 1st....hehe....
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kabukiawie	Mar 10 2008, 10:18 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #295
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@ray wahaha.... downclock now?? how about the temp?? is it at 20C btw, you mentioned you oced yours to 3.68GHz @ 1.575v on your ic7?? as for my p4p800x, in cpuz normally report higher than what i set. now running at 1.55v in bios but in cpuz report 1.6v++. now i currently running at 3.22GHz @ 230fsb 5:4. close casing cpu temp is <45C load, 32C+- idle. cant stand with the dust already, so just close the side panel. This post has been edited by kabukiawie: Mar 10 2008, 11:43 AM
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blonely	Mar 10 2008, 12:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #296
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	@kabu how to stress the proc? i mean make it load.... even prime i jz saw my ram run 1.9Gb..... ==" the proc jz run at about 0%-10%...
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TSraymond5105	Mar 10 2008, 01:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #297
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Mar 10 2008, 10:18 AM) @ray wahaha.... downclock now?? how about the temp?? is it at 20C btw, you mentioned you oced yours to 3.68GHz @ 1.575v on your ic7?? as for my p4p800x, in cpuz normally report higher than what i set. now running at 1.55v in bios but in cpuz report 1.6v++. now i currently running at 3.22GHz @ 230fsb 5:4. close casing cpu temp is <45C load, 32C+- idle. cant stand with the dust already, so just close the side panel. Downclock temp is just slightly 1 degree lower from usual reading only. But the Abit sensor is a bit problem,usually it reports in higher reading. But after i downclock it,the proc itself is consuming about 66w only by using Sandra Monitoring software.My mobo will always read lower in the core temp as the is a slightly fluctuation. Your mobo temp sensor is accurate as my howetown 2.6C is having similar readings as yours.
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herojack41	Mar 10 2008, 01:03 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #298
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	@fylon im man in da pain processor temperature went back to 60C liao.....i guess da thermal grease dry again @blonely so cold your processor.....gogogo...smack da wall
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pengster	Mar 10 2008, 04:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #299
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 9 2008, 11:05 PM) @sang_karim Lol.. No problem! @Ray & Pengster Haha.. My previous case still fresh in my mind.. Now im scare with shot high vcore for my procs. I try to maintain mine as low as it can. And i never use Northwood before.. Dont really know about its stock voltage. lol yeah quite scary if you overvolt then kena burn but got silver lining also mar,can upgrade to C2D or something @kabukiawie we had the same prob last time remember?the voltage always fluctuates wan.last time i set at 1.55v cpuz also reports as 1.6v+
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edministrator	Mar 10 2008, 04:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #300
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(pengster @ Mar 10 2008, 04:21 PM) lol yeah quite scary if you overvolt then kena burn but got silver lining also mar,can upgrade to C2D or something @kabukiawie we had the same prob last time remember?the voltage always fluctuates wan.last time i set at 1.55v cpuz also reports as 1.6v+ pengster, cannot like dat... save for DSLR goodies, so kena jaga s478 baik baik......kekekeke
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fylon	Mar 10 2008, 06:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #301
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Ray Good idea.. Wait another 2 more day i went back to hometown then try DC.. @blonely Lol.. U should OC ur GC la.. Btw... Really unpredictable.. I thought X1650XT are almost on par with 76GT thou. OC it.. Have u ever use Orthros? Hm.. That as a good software to prime ya system. Otherwise run 2 Stress Prime 2004 at a time. @Edmin .. Poisoning pengster again..
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pengster	Mar 10 2008, 07:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #302
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(edministrator @ Mar 10 2008, 04:59 PM) pengster, cannot like dat... save for DSLR goodies, so kena jaga s478 baik baik......kekekeke hahaha yeah true also lah. Remember i told you guys im gonna upgrade to Penryn? Now I've changed my mind. Upgrade to 40D or 450D
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kabukiawie	Mar 10 2008, 10:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #303
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@Ed haha... you are really ular... pss pss.... @pengster i know..... but it seems like asus mobo having this prob. as for abit normally it reads higher temp. hmm.....i have same thinking with you, since 478 still can use, just let it be. save $$ for other purpose. kekeke... @blonely try run orthos. set priority 8-10, blend. i believe ram and cpu will be at its peak. after 10min keep an eye on the temp. thats the load temp. This post has been edited by kabukiawie: Mar 10 2008, 10:53 PM
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edministrator	Mar 10 2008, 11:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #304
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	@kabu + fylon, King cobra cucuk venom for a while, keeping pengster in the s478 family... Oh, installed a new Dawn of War Soulstorm, keeping me busy until CnC3 Expansion and Red Alert 3 is out later. P/S: kabu, will get the celeron stuff from u later this week.
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pengster	Mar 11 2008, 12:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #305
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Mar 10 2008, 10:50 PM) @Ed haha... you are really ular... pss pss.... @pengster i know..... but it seems like asus mobo having this prob. as for abit normally it reads higher temp. hmm.....i have same thinking with you, since 478 still can use, just let it be. save $$ for other purpose. kekeke... @blonely try run orthos. set priority 8-10, blend. i believe ram and cpu will be at its peak. after 10min keep an eye on the temp. thats the load temp. Yeahlor.really make me lose faith in Asus boards. Their high end stuff is soo expensive QUOTE(edministrator @ Mar 10 2008, 11:39 PM) @kabu + fylon, King cobra cucuk venom for a while, keeping pengster in the s478 family... Oh, installed a new Dawn of War Soulstorm, keeping me busy until CnC3 Expansion and Red Alert 3 is out later. P/S: kabu, will get the celeron stuff from u later this week. lol but if i dont upgrade also damn sien la.cant play any new games CSS also 10FPS sometimes.haih.make me damn geram. This post has been edited by pengster: Mar 11 2008, 12:09 AM
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TSraymond5105	Mar 11 2008, 08:35 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #306
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(edministrator @ Mar 10 2008, 11:39 PM) @kabu + fylon, King cobra cucuk venom for a while, keeping pengster in the s478 family... Oh, installed a new Dawn of War Soulstorm, keeping me busy until CnC3 Expansion and Red Alert 3 is out later. P/S: kabu, will get the celeron stuff from u later this week. I'm waiting for my Call Of Duty 4. Guess tomorrow i should be getting the installer already.Anyone of you here playing this game?
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mois	Mar 11 2008, 08:46 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #307
Enemy Territory Senior Member 3,626 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: Hornbill land	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Mar 11 2008, 09:35 AM) I'm waiting for my Call Of Duty 4. Guess tomorrow i should be getting the installer already.Anyone of you here playing this game? im playing that game...what can i say, The Best Multiplayer game lols..
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edministrator	Mar 11 2008, 09:52 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #308
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Mar 11 2008, 08:35 AM) I'm waiting for my Call Of Duty 4. Guess tomorrow i should be getting the installer already.Anyone of you here playing this game? finished the campaign. nice game..
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fylon	Mar 11 2008, 12:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #309
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Kabu Ehh.. I smell celeron.. Planning to make a new rigs? @Edmin Haha.. Bapa Uar.. Btw.. New expansion already out for C&C3? And Soulstorm u also got?! @ray COD4? Lol.. FPS game?
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edministrator	Mar 11 2008, 12:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #310
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 11 2008, 12:14 PM) @Kabu Ehh.. I smell celeron.. Planning to make a new rigs? @Edmin Haha.. Bapa Uar.. Btw.. New expansion already out for C&C3? And Soulstorm u also got?! @ray COD4? Lol.. FPS game? @fylon, i have soulstorm, gameplay the same as dark crusade but just trying out the two new factions. see what super duper upgrades the others have. for now, perhaps playing to finish the storyline... running on high settings on 1440x900
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KahLooN	Mar 11 2008, 04:55 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #311
~(^^)~ Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Cheras	@ray Hehe, did i heard Call of Duty 4? People say this game very nice. Seems like nowadays many people like to play games, lol~ Wish i had the time also.
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TSraymond5105	Mar 11 2008, 05:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #312
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon,FPS game yup...but dunno require high fps to play or not. @kahloon,me too,not much time to play game.I will try it as i heard this is a very interesting and good game.Now downloading the "ehem" one.Hehehe.
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edministrator	Mar 11 2008, 05:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #313
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(pengster @ Mar 11 2008, 12:09 AM) lol but if i dont upgrade also damn sien la.cant play any new games CSS also 10FPS sometimes.haih.make me damn geram. dun play new games. go take photos. post process with your s478
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khai84siong	Mar 11 2008, 09:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #314
Getting Started Junior Member 249 posts Joined: Jul 2007 From: ~Some where over the rainbow~	@edmin bro u know how to use any image processing softwares? wanna learn ler but nobody cn guide interested in it also
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edministrator	Mar 11 2008, 10:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #315
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(khai84siong @ Mar 11 2008, 09:02 PM) @edmin bro u know how to use any image processing softwares? wanna learn ler but nobody cn guide interested in it also erm, depending on which software lor. most commonly available guides around is based on Adobe Photoshop. Maybe you can start there. As for guidance, depends on what you wanna do, because there is too much to do in post processing images. I am also still learning
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pengster	Mar 11 2008, 10:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #316
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Mar 11 2008, 08:35 AM) I'm waiting for my Call Of Duty 4. Guess tomorrow i should be getting the installer already.Anyone of you here playing this game? want to play.wish to play.but my rig wont be able to handle it. QUOTE(edministrator @ Mar 11 2008, 05:39 PM) dun play new games. go take photos. post process with your s478 lol thats what im doing now with my free time PP on my s478 also quite limited la.if i use CS2/CS3 it'll take a loong time to PP haha
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edministrator	Mar 11 2008, 10:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #317
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(pengster @ Mar 11 2008, 10:17 PM) want to play.wish to play.but my rig wont be able to handle it. lol thats what im doing now with my free time PP on my s478 also quite limited la.if i use CS2/CS3 it'll take a loong time to PP haha no lar...PP on your rig should be fine..mine's quite fast ler bro..maybe RAM inadequate? Join the 2GB club lah... yes...yes... take more pics and slowly be sucked into DSLR from prosumer once you hit the wall...lol...poison in progresssss @fylon, r u back in kch? how's the OC going...
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fylon	Mar 11 2008, 11:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #318
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Woah... Just step my foot on kuching! Finally im back.. Well well.. Still prefer kch alot more then other palce. My beloved S478 here i come back.. Anyways... After used my frens C2D system for 1 week and compare with my S478.. Still feel like my own system are much much more responsive and more FASTER then C2D.. Alright here is the picture that requestey kabu that time about my mice & mice pad. @Ray Lol.. Tried CSS? @edmin I just home thou.. See besok got time then try.. Back for system.. By then.. Just found out my mouse pad is a way tooooooo BIG! Gosh! Now gotta put my my keyboard side way now..
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kabukiawie	Mar 12 2008, 09:05 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #319
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@Ed Roger. anytime you want to pick from me. hehe... @fylon old rig la..... 478 celeron... sdram somemore. nice gem you have there
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TSraymond5105	Mar 12 2008, 11:55 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #320
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon,C2D is lose to your S478 in terms of responsive? This is interesting.Your friends' C2D is loaded with too much applications already right?CSS ? Haven't try yet.Guess this few days coming i will try COD4. Nice mice and mouse pad you got.
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fylon	Mar 12 2008, 12:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #321
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Kabu Haha.. Making new torrent rigs? Even SD RAM build still able to torrent for 24/7.. @Ray Lol.. Hm.. That what i felt lo.. E6600 some more.. 2GB of ram.. Gosh! But the GC really shiok.. HD3870 eh! But overall.. Ofcause gaming sure the C2D lead. But in term of responsive and application i still feel like my rigs does better. Maybe lacking of tweaking for that system. But his system seems very empty. Just a Kaspersky, office 03 and few standard software thats all.
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kabukiawie	Mar 12 2008, 02:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #322
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon no la..... just salvaged from my cousin's old rig. no HDD tho.....
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fylon	Mar 12 2008, 04:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #323
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Kabu Lol.. I got a 20GB HDD. Duh.. Wanna clear my desk already. Soon wanna make a jumbo sales at garage sales. Too many junk wanna sell off.
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sniperz11	Mar 12 2008, 04:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #324
Casual Junior Member 400 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: KL	It is some kind of virus or my Windows having problems... Some application it open in 2... Take a look at my process manager...
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kabukiawie	Mar 12 2008, 05:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #325
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon Edmin is looking for some parts for old pc, so i just let go the parts la... i also clearing parts as well... hehe... got p4 2.0a with a via km266 combo mobo with me now collecting dust... see got chance turn them to some cash. @sniperz try update antivirus and have a virus scan your pc in safe mode... if you have antispyware program, update and scan it as well...
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blonely	Mar 12 2008, 05:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #326
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	@fylon ya....is running 2 sp2004..... havent try orthos... will try later.. my GC ar....i also thought it will on par 76GT.... i want to OC it....but not sure the safe point.... when using ATI tools, or riva tuner...after we OC it, if we din run the software at startup it will reset bec to default?
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herojack41	Mar 12 2008, 08:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #327
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(sniperz11 @ Mar 12 2008, 04:58 PM) It is some kind of virus or my Windows having problems... Some application it open in 2... Take a look at my process manager... haha....i knw wats your virus...its very easy to clean.can clean manually.this is somekind of malware which is make your comp performance decrease follow this step Start>run>type msconfig>choose startup tab and screen shot to me Added on March 12, 2008, 8:39 pmerm guys....i was looking for 3rd party cooler which is able to support 478 socket and 775 socket....is there any cooler suit this 2 socket are selling? This post has been edited by herojack41: Mar 12 2008, 08:39 PM
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TSraymond5105	Mar 12 2008, 09:04 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #328
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(blonely @ Mar 12 2008, 05:21 PM) @fylon ya....is running 2 sp2004..... havent try orthos... will try later.. my GC ar....i also thought it will on par 76GT.... i want to OC it....but not sure the safe point.... when using ATI tools, or riva tuner...after we OC it, if we din run the software at startup it will reset bec to default? yes,the o/c speed will back to default if you don't run the software with the profile you set during start up. Frankly speaking,ATI cards are not really good in overclocking.
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blonely	Mar 13 2008, 01:18 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #329
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	@ray haha....wat do you mean not good in overclocking? heat? or core is fixed?or the capability to clock? @hero tuniq tower 120....hehehehe....
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pengster	Mar 13 2008, 01:20 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #330
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(edministrator @ Mar 11 2008, 10:30 PM) no lar...PP on your rig should be fine..mine's quite fast ler bro..maybe RAM inadequate? Join the 2GB club lah... yes...yes... take more pics and slowly be sucked into DSLR from prosumer once you hit the wall...lol...poison in progresssss @fylon, r u back in kch? how's the OC going... 1GB is DEFINITELY not enough for me to PP using CS2. Alot of times working halfway suddenly,oh,not enough ram to process the request and DDR1 rams are freaking expensive laa.if i want to go 2GB,i'll have to get 2x1GB sticks.and that costs a bomb p/s.i've already hit the wall of my prosumer not long after i got it haha.40D,here i come QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 11 2008, 11:38 PM) Woah... Just step my foot on kuching! Finally im back.. Well well.. Still prefer kch alot more then other palce. My beloved S478 here i come back.. Anyways... After used my frens C2D system for 1 week and compare with my S478.. Still feel like my own system are much much more responsive and more FASTER then C2D.. Alright here is the picture that requestey kabu that time about my mice & mice pad. @Ray Lol.. Tried CSS? @edmin I just home thou.. See besok got time then try.. Back for system.. By then.. Just found out my mouse pad is a way tooooooo BIG! Gosh! Now gotta put my my keyboard side way now.. yo same mouse as mine! but im using everglide titan only la.the new Razer Destructor looks uber cool tho. XD
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TSraymond5105	Mar 13 2008, 08:45 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #331
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(blonely @ Mar 13 2008, 01:18 AM) @ray haha....wat do you mean not good in overclocking? heat? or core is fixed?or the capability to clock? @hero tuniq tower 120....hehehehe.... Of course is the capability to o/c. Heat is the common enemy for o/c even for all hardwares. yesterday i played COD4.That was damn bad, my GC is totally unplayable at 4fps in the 2nd mission in jungle enviromenent. The minimum requirement for the gc of this game should be at least Geforce 6 series or X800. My GC is totally out of minimum specs.
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edministrator	Mar 13 2008, 08:48 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #332
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(pengster @ Mar 13 2008, 01:20 AM) 1GB is DEFINITELY not enough for me to PP using CS2. Alot of times working halfway suddenly,oh,not enough ram to process the request and DDR1 rams are freaking expensive laa.if i want to go 2GB,i'll have to get 2x1GB sticks.and that costs a bomb p/s.i've already hit the wall of my prosumer not long after i got it haha.40D,here i come yo same mouse as mine! but im using everglide titan only la.the new Razer Destructor looks uber cool tho. XD @pengster Maybe time for you to hunt around for the RAMs in garage sales if you are serious about 2GB. wow, can explain how u hit the wall with prosumer? the zoom lens should last u a while there, unlike mine only 18-55mm without VR. Not that it is bad, but i wish it had a bit of OmmPh like VR, or longer reach of 18-135, at least. Well, enough said, on my way of saving up for getting the AF-S DX VR Zoom-Nikkor 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G IF-ED, looks like i will be holding off my speedlight 1st this time. @blonely, The best way to get your desired OC and preserve your card's life is by using ATI Tray Tools. This tool is great as you can create oc profiles, meaning once it detects you are running 3D applications, it will auto OC with your desired profiles and revert back to default speed once you exit from it. I am using it for my lappy, very handy oc and tweaking tool. ATI cards are comparable to nvidia, that's for sure. Added on March 13, 2008, 8:50 am QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Mar 13 2008, 08:45 AM) Of course is the capability to o/c. Heat is the common enemy for o/c even for all hardwares. yesterday i played COD4.That was damn bad, my GC is totally unplayable at 4fps in the 2nd mission in jungle enviromenent. The minimum requirement for the gc of this game should be at least Geforce 6 series or X800. My GC is totally out of minimum specs. definately the shader power issue plus the your 9550's RAM and core speed is not up to the game's requirement. i understand the frustration, bro. my lappy that is 9700 mobility 128MB (equivalent to your 9550/9600 desktop) also facing same issue even after OC. This post has been edited by edministrator: Mar 13 2008, 08:50 AM
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TSraymond5105	Mar 13 2008, 09:38 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #333
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@edmin,yup the shader that the game need is 3.0. 2.0 sharder cards will be suffering in the game.Advice to those who is using shader 2.0 cards,no need to waste time to play the game.
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herojack41	Mar 13 2008, 10:04 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #334
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	@raymond5105 9550 this card....i faced 1 situation before...while logging in to window Xp rite?there is a Welcome word....which is has jack line on it
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kabukiawie	Mar 13 2008, 10:38 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #335
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	now even with sm3 card also quite hard.... i only have 8pipeline. my 9550 only have 4.. btw.. cant expect much from outdated stuffs. as long can run basic things then no complain already.
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TSraymond5105	Mar 13 2008, 12:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #336
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(herojack41 @ Mar 13 2008, 10:04 AM) @raymond5105 9550 this card....i faced 1 situation before...while logging in to window Xp rite?there is a Welcome word....which is has jack line on it line or horizontal? My one don't have. @kabu,you play COD 4 ?
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herojack41	Mar 13 2008, 02:11 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #337
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	@ray wel....i duno much abt it....while im using it got jack line..... owh....my 9550 it has no fan just a heatsink only
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kabukiawie	Mar 13 2008, 02:47 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #338
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@ray didnt... haha... retire from game already
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TSraymond5105	Mar 13 2008, 04:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #339
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@herojack41,your 9550 is using passive cooling. Maybe you can add a fan on it to cool down the chip.
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fylon	Mar 13 2008, 04:43 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #340
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@pengster Yea.. I was using Krait. Actually wanna grab DA but out of budget.. But i most of the time was play RPG/Strategy game, so 3 button is enough for me la. Dont need to activate On the Fly function. Haha.. Oh yea.. The map are huge!! I got limited space to fix it in. @Ray Time for new GC.. Maybe a 78GS EE? @Edmin I heard that ATI tools wasnt that reliable in searching the sweet OC spot for GC? Went to game store just now, and i saw assassin creed on sell.. But didnt buy scare my rigs cant support it.
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TSraymond5105	Mar 13 2008, 05:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #341
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon,last time i've missed up the 6800 selling in garage. I've never think that the COD4 needs SM3.0 to support.ATI tool auto searching for max core and max mem are fake. These features are unless and will cause hanged when clocks going too high.Don't use this feature but o/c manaully.
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KahLooN	Mar 13 2008, 06:31 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #342
~(^^)~ Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Cheras	@raymond Is time for an upgrade for GC. About the ATI tool,i don't use those auto feature. Instead i clock it myself with trial-error. @fylon Razer mouse is nice man, wish i can have one too. Too bad not much money coz currently need to fund the Corsair HX620W. About the gaming requirement, i think your rig can still support the game. Perhaps with minimum+medium setting perhaps. @herojack41 Maybe you can try use those 3DMark bench just to test your GC, if not ATI tool should be fine.
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fylon	Mar 13 2008, 07:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #343
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@KahLooN Lol.. Mine was same as Pengster thou. Just the entry level of gaming mouse. But heck.. Its a nice mouse. 1600dpi is enough for strategy game. Actually plan to get deathadder.. But out of $$.. Btw, regarding to the assassin creed... Maybe we can suggest edmin to give a try on that game. He always our old school game tester.
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edministrator	Mar 13 2008, 07:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #344
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 13 2008, 04:43 PM) @pengster Yea.. I was using Krait. Actually wanna grab DA but out of budget.. But i most of the time was play RPG/Strategy game, so 3 button is enough for me la. Dont need to activate On the Fly function. Haha.. Oh yea.. The map are huge!! I got limited space to fix it in. @Ray Time for new GC.. Maybe a 78GS EE? @Edmin I heard that ATI tools wasnt that reliable in searching the sweet OC spot for GC? Went to game store just now, and i saw assassin creed on sell.. But didnt buy scare my rigs cant support it. ati tool auto detect highest oc is crap. I do not mean ati tool, but "ATI Tray Tool" by Ray Adams. These are very different tools. No way you can accurately determine best oc unless trial and error. I have tried oc using ati tool and stress test with the test tool provided in ati tool for 24 hours, no artifacts found but when running 3D apps, the in game hang/freeze. ATI Tray Tool takes over the CCC functions (so no need to install catalyst center crap), even features 2D/3D auto oc profile switching, plus tweaks. Can also show in-game FPS, take screenshots, etc. Thumbs up, in my opinion is the best ATI cards companion!!! This post has been edited by edministrator: Mar 13 2008, 07:13 PM
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TSraymond5105	Mar 13 2008, 07:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #345
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@kahloon,i see.My be time to upgrade GC. lol.I see you are owning a set of C2D too,right? @edmin,nVidia's card also feature those 2D/3D profile switching.I use it since during the FX series.The Leadtek's software does have this feature with.
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KahLooN	Mar 13 2008, 08:07 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #346
~(^^)~ Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Cheras	@fylon Yeah, good mouse sure feel very different compare to "cikai" mouse. lol~ Go ask uncle edmin try it out for us. @edmin Agree with you, Ati Tray Tool indeed is a nice software with lots of features. Current im using it coz come together with the OmegaDriver. @raymond Do not hesitate to change it, is time to move on. Regarding the C2D rig, it it partially mine but own to my bro.
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herojack41	Mar 13 2008, 08:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #347
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Mar 13 2008, 04:25 PM) @herojack41,your 9550 is using passive cooling. Maybe you can add a fan on it to cool down the chip. haha...da last time i saw my gc were 2 years ago ...sell jor at rm100++and changed to this nvidia 6200 Added on March 13, 2008, 8:33 pm QUOTE(KahLooN @ Mar 13 2008, 06:31 PM) @raymond Is time for an upgrade for GC. About the ATI tool,i don't use those auto feature. Instead i clock it myself with trial-error. @fylon Razer mouse is nice man, wish i can have one too. Too bad not much money coz currently need to fund the Corsair HX620W. About the gaming requirement, i think your rig can still support the game. Perhaps with minimum+medium setting perhaps. @herojack41 Maybe you can try use those 3DMark bench just to test your GC, if not ATI tool should be fine. that card very long time liao de This post has been edited by herojack41: Mar 13 2008, 08:33 PM
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edministrator	Mar 13 2008, 08:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #348
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	assasin's creed? maybe sometime later. will update u guys. wah seh..every1 talkin about mouse...me using cikai MX1000 only...u guys good lor pakai razer This post has been edited by edministrator: Mar 13 2008, 08:41 PM
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fylon	Mar 13 2008, 08:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #349
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@edmin Haha.. But u own a good keyboard man.. G15... Urs better then us lo. Im only using the classic logitech keyboard. Ur G15 equal to few ekor of razer krait eh. Btw, will do my project later on if u got time. Update later..
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KahLooN	Mar 13 2008, 08:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #350
~(^^)~ Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Cheras	@herojack Maybe is time to change into a new card perhaps? @fylon, edmin Wow, both of you using good peripherals. Im using cheapo rm15 keyboard and rm30 mouse only. Can't fight at all, haha.
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fylon	Mar 13 2008, 08:57 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #351
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Kahloon Haha.. Where got.. I just owned a good mouse. Someone is owning better item among us here.. 24' LCD wo...
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herojack41	Mar 13 2008, 09:01 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #352
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	@@ u guys talking mouse lol....i having a blacky normal logitech mouse only
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pengster	Mar 13 2008, 09:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #353
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(edministrator @ Mar 13 2008, 08:48 AM) @pengster Maybe time for you to hunt around for the RAMs in garage sales if you are serious about 2GB. wow, can explain how u hit the wall with prosumer? the zoom lens should last u a while there, unlike mine only 18-55mm without VR. Not that it is bad, but i wish it had a bit of OmmPh like VR, or longer reach of 18-135, at least. Well, enough said, on my way of saving up for getting the AF-S DX VR Zoom-Nikkor 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G IF-ED, looks like i will be holding off my speedlight 1st this time. @blonely, The best way to get your desired OC and preserve your card's life is by using ATI Tray Tools. This tool is great as you can create oc profiles, meaning once it detects you are running 3D applications, it will auto OC with your desired profiles and revert back to default speed once you exit from it. I am using it for my lappy, very handy oc and tweaking tool. ATI cards are comparable to nvidia, that's for sure. Added on March 13, 2008, 8:50 am definately the shader power issue plus the your 9550's RAM and core speed is not up to the game's requirement. i understand the frustration, bro. my lappy that is 9700 mobility 128MB (equivalent to your 9550/9600 desktop) also facing same issue even after OC. Easy. ISO200 and above is unusable for me. and 1.5FPS is another limiting factor here. and now i realize i dont use the zoom that often but more of wide and potraits damn.but nvmla,love the macro mode XD ooh yeah get the 18-200VR man.sweet lense. QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 13 2008, 04:43 PM) @pengster Yea.. I was using Krait. Actually wanna grab DA but out of budget.. But i most of the time was play RPG/Strategy game, so 3 button is enough for me la. Dont need to activate On the Fly function. Haha.. Oh yea.. The map are huge!! I got limited space to fix it in. @Ray Time for new GC.. Maybe a 78GS EE? @Edmin I heard that ATI tools wasnt that reliable in searching the sweet OC spot for GC? Went to game store just now, and i saw assassin creed on sell.. But didnt buy scare my rigs cant support it. QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 13 2008, 07:08 PM) @KahLooN Lol.. Mine was same as Pengster thou. Just the entry level of gaming mouse. But heck.. Its a nice mouse. 1600dpi is enough for strategy game. Actually plan to get deathadder.. But out of $$.. Btw, regarding to the assassin creed... Maybe we can suggest edmin to give a try on that game. He always our old school game tester. lol a good mouse is a definite need if you want to play FPS games.thats for me la.after using the krait it feels so much different then normal mouses. feel like upgrading to DA too
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fylon	Mar 13 2008, 09:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #354
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Pengster Haha.. DA was my 1st aim actually.. But that time when i go LWP... Dont have enough case then turn to krait. But anyways, it still a good mouse overall. + the mouse pad.. Ultimate for me.
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KahLooN	Mar 13 2008, 10:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #355
~(^^)~ Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Cheras	@pengster Well, i agree that a good mouse is a must for FPS game. Sensitivity is important. @fylon Who own a 24" LCD? Omg. @herojack Same here, using logitech mouse but is a cheap version.
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TSraymond5105	Mar 13 2008, 10:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #356
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Guess guess what mouse and keyboard i'm using?I'm just with a normal RM20+ Logitech keyboard and a normal Dell mouse only.I guess i'm the poorest among you all.
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kabukiawie	Mar 13 2008, 11:13 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #357
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(KahLooN @ Mar 13 2008, 10:08 PM) @fylon Who own a 24" LCD? Omg. who is the guy?? he is my old buddy. ... let me spell his name... E...D...M...I...N...I...S...T...R...A...T...O...R...!!! haha.... dont even think he used the word "cikai" is lauzy mouse. he use the damn nice laser mouse ===> Logitech Codeless Mouse MX1000!!! please click to view the detail ---> http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_poi...es/783&cl=gb,en
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edministrator	Mar 13 2008, 11:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #358
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Mar 13 2008, 11:13 PM) who is the guy?? he is my old buddy. ... let me spell his name... E...D...M...I...N...I...S...T...R...A...T...O...R...!!! haha.... dont even think he used the word "cikai" is lauzy mouse. he use the damn nice laser mouse ===> Logitech Codeless Mouse MX1000!!! please click to view the detail ---> http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_poi...es/783&cl=gb,en @kabukiawie wei buddy, dun advertise me like that lar, me old laser mouse, these guys is new gaming mouse wor... btw, what games u wanna get from me ah? to torture your rig...hehehe... @pengster I recommend you this software DxO, works SUPERB! I immediately ditch my Nikon Picture Project (RAW) software after floored by this! http://www.dxo.com/intl/photo/dxo_optics_pro http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/dxo/optics-pro.htm check it out, works fast with our old s478 with hyperthreading. The responsiveness is a lot better than my default software. This post has been edited by edministrator: Mar 13 2008, 11:29 PM
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kabukiawie	Mar 13 2008, 11:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #359
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	better than my cikai logi optical mouse la... haha... the ms optical mouse you gave me way better. p.s. tomorrow you just come to my house pick the celeron, if i not in just take from my sis.
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pengster	Mar 14 2008, 12:20 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #360
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 13 2008, 09:22 PM) @Pengster Haha.. DA was my 1st aim actually.. But that time when i go LWP... Dont have enough case then turn to krait. But anyways, it still a good mouse overall. + the mouse pad.. Ultimate for me. Yeah DA would be perfect.too bad that time when i got my krait also not enough cash lagi no cash to get the exactmat + exactrest.lol had to settle for the titan. still,love my combo btw,doesnt the exactmat wears out the teflon feet on the mouse after some time?read that somewhere QUOTE(KahLooN @ Mar 13 2008, 10:08 PM) @pengster Well, i agree that a good mouse is a must for FPS game. Sensitivity is important. @fylon Who own a 24" LCD? Omg. @herojack Same here, using logitech mouse but is a cheap version. yup.last time using cheap mouse,the crosshair in game jump here and there and sometimes get stuck also haha QUOTE(edministrator @ Mar 13 2008, 11:24 PM) @kabukiawie wei buddy, dun advertise me like that lar, me old laser mouse, these guys is new gaming mouse wor... btw, what games u wanna get from me ah? to torture your rig...hehehe... @pengster I recommend you this software DxO, works SUPERB! I immediately ditch my Nikon Picture Project (RAW) software after floored by this! http://www.dxo.com/intl/photo/dxo_optics_pro http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/dxo/optics-pro.htm check it out, works fast with our old s478 with hyperthreading. The responsiveness is a lot better than my default software. wahh MX1000 expensive mouse leh.eventho its not new but still way more expensive then our krait ooh thanks for the link! but i only see S2IS supported in the list.hmm.it might work.but must pay lah. 150USD This post has been edited by pengster: Mar 14 2008, 12:23 AM
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fylon	Mar 14 2008, 12:39 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #361
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	EDMIN!! The richest guys among us.. (Well.. Count on all his asset.. 24' LCD, MX1000 Cordless mouse, his NIKON big boy tools.. Haha.. Edmin.. I wanna get some game from u as well... @Pengster Edmin was using laser mice wo.. Where got like us.. Infrared sensor mouse. Haha..
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blonely	Mar 14 2008, 03:25 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #362
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	hoho...mine also blacky mobile gear mouse nia...and a ultraflat logitech keyboard lo... me also consider in poor club d...
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edministrator	Mar 14 2008, 08:52 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #363
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 14 2008, 12:39 AM) EDMIN!! The richest guys among us.. (Well.. Count on all his asset.. 24' LCD, MX1000 Cordless mouse, his NIKON big boy tools.. Haha.. Edmin.. I wanna get some game from u as well... @Pengster Edmin was using laser mice wo.. Where got like us.. Infrared sensor mouse. Haha.. alamak...i m being over run... those r enthusiasts passion, not rich. after all, i dun wanna sit on my own workplace using chaplak mouse+kb that makes me uncomfortable because lack of ergonomics. Don't want to spend 2-3 times for those peripherals that in the end causing me the same amount of cost (maybe more) compared to my current stuff. There's a saying that a poor man's cheapo purchase habit makes the man poorer. I know kabu understands this theory very well. Got to balance out cheapo and quality items with the available budget. You don't wanna buy a chaplak mouse over and over again but rather spend more on a better mouse right? That's how I keep my s478 in tip top condition. I know a lot of friends that says their s478 is lousy and old and needs to be replaced. Upon inspection, they are using chaplak keyboard, small bling bling mouse (ah beng style type, lights boom boom one) and lousy PC Partner mobo (saw some buldged capacitors also) with cheapo casing and milkyway GF4MX. No wonder lah cannot compare to current stylo or quality rigs! This post has been edited by edministrator: Mar 14 2008, 08:54 AM
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TSraymond5105	Mar 14 2008, 08:52 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #364
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	edmin is really a photo enthusiast. The link that he provided is damn nice.All the photos are very sharp.
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edministrator	Mar 14 2008, 08:55 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #365
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Mar 14 2008, 08:52 AM) edmin is really a photo enthusiast. The link that he provided is damn nice.All the photos are very sharp. @raymond, come join me & pengster on the snap snap activity, very fun! got free time can visit my site: http://edministrator.multiply.com all pics post processed from my s478 rig, hehehe... P/S: Best viewed with calibrated CRT or normal LCD. noticed a lot of nice pics color is dark or washed out on cheapo CRT such as Pallette and ACER. This post has been edited by edministrator: Mar 14 2008, 09:00 AM
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kabukiawie	Mar 14 2008, 09:40 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #366
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(edministrator @ Mar 14 2008, 08:52 AM) alamak...i m being over run... those r enthusiasts passion, not rich. after all, i dun wanna sit on my own workplace using chaplak mouse+kb that makes me uncomfortable because lack of ergonomics. Don't want to spend 2-3 times for those peripherals that in the end causing me the same amount of cost (maybe more) compared to my current stuff. There's a saying that a poor man's cheapo purchase habit makes the man poorer. I know kabu understands this theory very well. Got to balance out cheapo and quality items with the available budget. You don't wanna buy a chaplak mouse over and over again but rather spend more on a better mouse right? That's how I keep my s478 in tip top condition. I know a lot of friends that says their s478 is lousy and old and needs to be replaced. Upon inspection, they are using chaplak keyboard, small bling bling mouse (ah beng style type, lights boom boom one) and lousy PC Partner mobo (saw some buldged capacitors also) with cheapo casing and milkyway GF4MX. No wonder lah cannot compare to current stylo or quality rigs! correct... haha.. i very regret that when i purchased my rig, i didnt really plan properly. end up ungraded alot of unneccessary stuffs. even worse some of the stuffs come to my hand spoiled. hehe... wanna korek cnc3 and hl2 both epics from you.
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TSraymond5105	Mar 14 2008, 09:42 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #367
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(edministrator @ Mar 14 2008, 08:55 AM) @raymond, come join me & pengster on the snap snap activity, very fun! got free time can visit my site: http://edministrator.multiply.com all pics post processed from my s478 rig, hehehe... P/S: Best viewed with calibrated CRT or normal LCD. noticed a lot of nice pics color is dark or washed out on cheapo CRT such as Pallette and ACER. Edmin,i don't have a good camera to snap. I'm just using those low end Sony digital camera,forget which model already.If not mistaken is old school P73 model.
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herojack41	Mar 14 2008, 09:48 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #368
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(KahLooN @ Mar 13 2008, 10:08 PM) @pengster Well, i agree that a good mouse is a must for FPS game. Sensitivity is important. @fylon Who own a 24" LCD? Omg. @herojack Same here, using logitech mouse but is a cheap version. rm25 most expensive mouse i ever buy QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Mar 13 2008, 10:12 PM) Guess guess what mouse and keyboard i'm using?I'm just with a normal RM20+ Logitech keyboard and a normal Dell mouse only.I guess i'm the poorest among you all. ray.....i think im poorest among here....a black samsung keyboard rm18 and a rm25 logitech mouse Added on March 14, 2008, 9:59 am QUOTE(edministrator @ Mar 14 2008, 08:52 AM) alamak...i m being over run... those r enthusiasts passion, not rich. after all, i dun wanna sit on my own workplace using chaplak mouse+kb that makes me uncomfortable because lack of ergonomics. Don't want to spend 2-3 times for those peripherals that in the end causing me the same amount of cost (maybe more) compared to my current stuff. There's a saying that a poor man's cheapo purchase habit makes the man poorer. I know kabu understands this theory very well. Got to balance out cheapo and quality items with the available budget. You don't wanna buy a chaplak mouse over and over again but rather spend more on a better mouse right? That's how I keep my s478 in tip top condition. I know a lot of friends that says their s478 is lousy and old and needs to be replaced. Upon inspection, they are using chaplak keyboard, small bling bling mouse (ah beng style type, lights boom boom one) and lousy PC Partner mobo (saw some buldged capacitors also) with cheapo casing and milkyway GF4MX. No wonder lah cannot compare to current stylo or quality rigs! correct bro....last time my elder brother buy a cheapo mouse which is have bling-bling light and cost around rm18.....after few days touching da mouse,da right click is so darn hard to press...tekan sampai tangan sakit den buang je.da most expensive mouse i ever bought is logitech rm25 This post has been edited by herojack41: Mar 14 2008, 09:59 AM
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fylon	Mar 14 2008, 10:08 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #369
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@edmin Haha.. I know what are u talking about actually. Just feel wanna goreng the topic up. Haha.. Sorry if hurt ur feeling. Anyways, ur not just freak in tech, but in photo snapping as well. Duh.. Cant join ur snap snap club la.. Even sell my whole P4 system also not enough for the camera.
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edministrator	Mar 14 2008, 10:12 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #370
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 14 2008, 10:08 AM) @edmin Haha.. I know what are u talking about actually. Just feel wanna goreng the topic up. Haha.. Sorry if hurt ur feeling. Anyways, ur not just freak in tech, but in photo snapping as well. Duh.. Cant join ur snap snap club la.. Even sell my whole P4 system also not enough for the camera. not hurting anything bro, chill... goreng goreng this thread only, hahahaha your oc journey how how how?? This post has been edited by edministrator: Mar 14 2008, 10:19 AM
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fylon	Mar 14 2008, 11:59 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #371
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Guess my system max speed was 4.017Ghz.. Tried all the possible way to push higher but still failed. Even take off 1 pair of the ran and run 2 stick also stucked. Vcore set at 1.55v, vagp and vdimm push to max. Ram timing were 3-4-4-8, performance mode off, PAT mode off. Still unable to load windows. Able to go trough POST mode, and window were loading half way freeze. Gotta restart. Vcore has go up to 1.55v guess is the danger stage for prescott already. Guess i need to have water cooling in order to hit higher speed thou. Need more vcore.. The maxium speed that i can achieved with quad ram dimm were 3.98Ghz. And i faced some weird problem. Anyone have real player? Haha.. I had record down the video of the weird problem. Do have a look and share with me with is going on. Well.. Was using my crappy k800i video. I was on .3gp mode so need to have real player or any equivalent player to play this file. Link: HERE P/s: Virus free dude. Scan before open for safety!
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kabukiawie	Mar 14 2008, 01:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #372
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	i didnt use real player for years.... now using klite mega pack and play real media files in WMP classic. do you mean the loading bar stuck here there?? are you able load into windows? maybe oc too much, lower a bit the speed see the same prob exist or not... hmm....
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fylon	Mar 14 2008, 01:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #373
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Kabu Yea.. See the strange thingy? And i unable to load into windows. The system just were keep on running without load into windows. And the weird loaading bar.. Stuck stuck.. Lag all the way. Hm.. Thats what happened when i hit 4.0Ghz with 4 dimm of RAM. Issues solved after i take off the Corsair. With Patriot everything is fine but system hang once load onto welcome screen.
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TSraymond5105	Mar 14 2008, 01:55 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #374
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon,4GHz club is welcoming you. I guess beyond 1.55v is not really recoomended unless using water cooling. Running at 3.8 or 3.9GHz for daily gaming is just more than enough.No need to over stress the whole system.What's the timing you are using in 4GHz ?
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fylon	Mar 14 2008, 02:15 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #375
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Ehe.. Those 4 stick of ram still able to hold as tight as 2.5-3-3-8 until 3.8Ghz.. But when go beyond 3.8Ghz then need to loosen the CL to 3. Yea.. I think i had overvoltage too much already. 1.55v was the maximum i can hit with air cooled. After that when i reset my system back to stock speed, my sound card driver is gone. Gotta reinstall back.
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blonely	Mar 14 2008, 02:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #376
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	i only use storm codec now....all media file so far i encountered all can be opened!
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fylon	Mar 14 2008, 07:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #377
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Haha.. Topic turn to codec again? Anyways, I'm now using The KMPlayer, one of the best player that i had ever use. Can play almost all the movie format without external codec thou. Now my WMP become useless lo.
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herojack41	Mar 14 2008, 08:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #378
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 14 2008, 07:37 PM) Haha.. Topic turn to codec again? Anyways, I'm now using The KMPlayer, one of the best player that i had ever use. Can play almost all the movie format without external codec thou. Now my WMP become useless lo. fylon....WMP enchance will k-lite codec everything can be played except those not video format and converted to video format
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kabukiawie	Mar 14 2008, 09:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #379
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon i believe that it throttling now.... it happen to me before.... load the bar for ages still cant get into desktop... jam jam in the middle. downclock a bit then super fast. hmm.... maybe add a bit more juice on vcore will boost more.
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pengster	Mar 14 2008, 09:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #380
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 14 2008, 12:39 AM) EDMIN!! The richest guys among us.. (Well.. Count on all his asset.. 24' LCD, MX1000 Cordless mouse, his NIKON big boy tools.. Haha.. Edmin.. I wanna get some game from u as well... @Pengster Edmin was using laser mice wo.. Where got like us.. Infrared sensor mouse. Haha.. hahhaa yeahlah.laser mouse weih so geng.lol QUOTE(edministrator @ Mar 14 2008, 08:55 AM) @raymond, come join me & pengster on the snap snap activity, very fun! got free time can visit my site: http://edministrator.multiply.com all pics post processed from my s478 rig, hehehe... P/S: Best viewed with calibrated CRT or normal LCD. noticed a lot of nice pics color is dark or washed out on cheapo CRT such as Pallette and ACER. yeah man,get the shutterbug flu nice pics edmin.like those fireworks pics.PP-ed using DxO? im using that now too,v4.5.1 tho.great software my shots still cant be compared to yours lah.
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fylon	Mar 14 2008, 09:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #381
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Kabu Had pumped 1.55v on vcore. I dont wanna take the risk lo. Play hard but play safe as well. But then, my throttling level were set to 50% as if the procs hit 60'c. That happened with 4Ghz speed with 4 stick of ram. Problem solved after 1 pair of the ram been take down.
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kabukiawie	Mar 14 2008, 10:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #382
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	so you mean the quad ram slot problem?? hmm......
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fylon	Mar 14 2008, 10:44 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #383
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	It might me quad dimm issues on throttling. But i not sure about it. Just it goes weird when high speed with 4 dimm. Might be the ram issues as well i guess. But both of the ram are factory clocked on 533mhz & 550mhz.. I dont think it will have any problem to run on FSB25x. Atleast it can hold FSB260 thou.
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edministrator	Mar 15 2008, 07:50 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #384
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 14 2008, 10:44 PM) It might me quad dimm issues on throttling. But i not sure about it. Just it goes weird when high speed with 4 dimm. Might be the ram issues as well i guess. But both of the ram are factory clocked on 533mhz & 550mhz.. I dont think it will have any problem to run on FSB25x. Atleast it can hold FSB260 thou. interesting! so what is your current stable record? sure, just let me know what game u interested in. PM me, we discuss more. If you have any IM, PM me also, we can keep in touch from there. @pengster, i just started DxO last week. previously all no PP, just crop and convert from RAW to JPG. Next up I would love to try HDR.
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fylon	Mar 15 2008, 10:05 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #385
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@edmin Sure.. Haha! I found some interesting thinggy with my rigs during OC. Just wander why the system will got throttling when hit high speed with quad dimm. Sure.. All ya game from P2P? Hahah...
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KahLooN	Mar 15 2008, 10:48 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #386
~(^^)~ Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Cheras	@fylon Means that you can't hit high fsb with 4 ram slots occupied? Well what kind of throttling do you mean?
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fylon	Mar 15 2008, 11:57 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #387
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Yea.. Gotta take off a pair of the ram 1st then the throttling issues will gone, but my OC not stable to hit 4.1Ghz.. Can load windows but hang at start up screen. Hm.. I did post the video clip of the throttling in previous post. HERE is the video. The window loading bar got stuck stuck and lag lag like that. Not like usual run smooth. It like run 1 sec lag 3 sec and run again. I 1st thought is the vcore not enough and i pumped it up to 1.55v and still the same symptom. vdimm and vagp were set to max. TCCD doesnt need that high voltage to run @ fsb250 right?
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TSraymond5105	Mar 15 2008, 12:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #388
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	I think might be the processor throttle inside over heat at 4GHz? THus the proc is running with some empty instruction to cool down itself?Another suspective point is the NB,not enough juice to process the 4GHz speeD?
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fylon	Mar 15 2008, 12:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #389
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Hm.. The throttling option that i set in my mboo was 50% when the temp hit 60'c. But i bet when on 4.1Ghz speed, the temp werent that high. I dont think is the procs / vcore problem. Hm.. NB.. Good point. But i had pumped the vagp up to 1.8v dy.. Should be enough to feed the NB? Haha.. But im surprise that the proc can hit 4Gh easily. Will up too much FSB at a time cause problem? Cause for the exp, i done it in a rush.. up 10FSB at a time to speed up the OC process. Usually i only 2-5mhz at a time.
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KahLooN	Mar 15 2008, 01:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #390
~(^^)~ Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Cheras	@fylon Yeah, TCCD doesn't need high voltage to operate. At 250Mhz, 2.65-2.7V is more than enough. Well perhaps the NB is too hot to be handle thus making the system throttled since you are feeding it with 1.8V.
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TSraymond5105	Mar 15 2008, 01:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #391
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon,guess maybe your NB is causing the instable issue. What to wait?Get another NB cooler to chill down it if you really planning to run on that voltage.
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fylon	Mar 15 2008, 01:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #392
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Kahloon & Ray LOL.. I actually had took off my NB cooler due of casing too sempit. 2 HDD and 1 GC. Hm.. Might be the NB over heating. But heck.. The problem is gone after i took off the ram.. Plan to get a better case and invest on BLUE ICE 2!! This post has been edited by fylon: Mar 15 2008, 01:42 PM
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TSraymond5105	Mar 15 2008, 01:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #393
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	fylon,good casing provides good air flow inside. Go ahead.The Blue Ice 2 is a nice grab to cool down your NB.
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herojack41	Mar 15 2008, 02:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #394
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	@fylon hey bro....i just bought a silverstone 3rd party cooler......it said need to remove da p4 bracket....izzit easyt? This post has been edited by herojack41: Mar 15 2008, 03:57 PM
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KahLooN	Mar 15 2008, 05:13 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #395
~(^^)~ Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Cheras	@fylon Is time to get nice NB cooler, TR TT or whatsoever. Then I bet you can go even higher. @herojack Well, i think the bracket should be easy to take off. Just push the pin out rite?
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TSraymond5105	Mar 15 2008, 05:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #396
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@herojack41,get the 3rd party cooler.Going into overclocking like fylon?
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fylon	Mar 15 2008, 06:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #397
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@ray Haha.. Good case not for now lo. Wait i go over KL la.. But was thinking how am i going to bring it back from LYN with KTM. @KahLooN Yea... Will look for those which are good in price vs performance. Gotta learn edmin's way. Spent wise the $$!! Haha.. Dont want to go too high lo. Later mobo dead susah la.. Now 3.68Ghz is more then enough. @herojack41 Learn to take off the bracket. Just use small tools to pok on the bracket kaki to get the while little rubble out. Thats all.. But becareful not to pok ur MB otherwise.. Wanna OC? Play hard & play safe!
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sniperz11	Mar 15 2008, 06:31 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #398
Casual Junior Member 400 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: KL	About the casing maybe i wan to modi mine... Hehehe, get a little help from Bro Ianho...
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overclockalbert	Mar 15 2008, 06:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #399
Regular Senior Member 1,058 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Penang , Malaysia	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 14 2008, 10:58 PM) @Kabu Had pumped 1.55v on vcore. I dont wanna take the risk lo. Play hard but play safe as well. But then, my throttling level were set to 50% as if the procs hit 60'c. That happened with 4Ghz speed with 4 stick of ram. Problem solved after 1 pair of the ram been take down. those 2 pair of ram was sure to clock over 250mhz aka ddr500 without problem. maybe some problem on the nb cooling.
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herojack41	Mar 15 2008, 08:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #400
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(KahLooN @ Mar 15 2008, 05:13 PM) @fylon Is time to get nice NB cooler, TR TT or whatsoever. Then I bet you can go even higher. @herojack Well, i think the bracket should be easy to take off. Just push the pin out rite? this is my first time touching da mobo lol QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Mar 15 2008, 05:37 PM) @herojack41,get the 3rd party cooler.Going into overclocking like fylon? maybe will OC abit and run on long term QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 15 2008, 06:14 PM) @ray Haha.. Good case not for now lo. Wait i go over KL la.. But was thinking how am i going to bring it back from LYN with KTM. @KahLooN Yea... Will look for those which are good in price vs performance. Gotta learn edmin's way. Spent wise the $$!! Haha.. Dont want to go too high lo. Later mobo dead susah la.. Now 3.68Ghz is more then enough. @herojack41 Learn to take off the bracket. Just use small tools to pok on the bracket kaki to get the while little rubble out. Thats all.. But becareful not to pok ur MB otherwise.. Wanna OC? Play hard & play safe! yea....i did yahoo and google around.......just wanna ask more to be safe...erm abt OC...still duno yet . Erk my casing dun have motherboard tray need to unscrew and take out whole mobo .....big project,maybe i just left for my technician to help me out
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fylon	Mar 15 2008, 09:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #401
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@overclockalbert Yea.. Probably will be the problem of NB. Since those 2 pair of ram were factory clocked on high speed. FSB250 was nothing for them. NB issues perhaps. Got time wanna try to fire it up again with set the NB voltage to the minimal. @sniperz11 Ianho? Gosh.. Kaki of self modi! Good.. I wan also.. @herojack41 Well.. Guess u should learn by ur own how to make it.
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sniperz11	Mar 15 2008, 09:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #402
Casual Junior Member 400 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: KL	@fylon... Hehehe, not modi too much... Just want to operate the side panel & top... So i can put 120mm fans there... In my plan, want to put 3 Blue Uv fans there...
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herojack41	Mar 15 2008, 09:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #403
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 15 2008, 09:30 PM) @overclockalbert Yea.. Probably will be the problem of NB. Since those 2 pair of ram were factory clocked on high speed. FSB250 was nothing for them. NB issues perhaps. Got time wanna try to fire it up again with set the NB voltage to the minimal. @sniperz11 Ianho? Gosh.. Kaki of self modi! Good.. I wan also.. @herojack41 Well.. Guess u should learn by ur own how to make it. hope i wont tear my mobo apart ...big project LOL....need to take out da mobo and install backplate
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sniperz11	Mar 15 2008, 10:01 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #404
Casual Junior Member 400 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: KL	My workstation now... Hehehe... P/s: Open casing in progress, becoz my casing very bad in air flow... This post has been edited by sniperz11: Mar 15 2008, 10:04 PM
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fylon	Mar 15 2008, 10:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #405
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@sniperz11 Woah... X-fi series sound card spotted. Haha.. All the games that u bought... *ehem version? Or is the original game? Btw.. Good luck in ur side panel modding. Can see ur side panel is open wide wide.. Like mine. Mine even worse then urs, both of the panel are open.
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sniperz11	Mar 15 2008, 10:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #406
Casual Junior Member 400 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: KL	Hehehe, it *ehem version... I very addict to games few years ago... Now very bz to play already cos studying... Cut some of the DVD covers and paste on my room... To decorate and get cheers a bit, hehehe...
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pengster	Mar 15 2008, 10:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #407
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(edministrator @ Mar 15 2008, 07:50 AM) interesting! so what is your current stable record? sure, just let me know what game u interested in. PM me, we discuss more. If you have any IM, PM me also, we can keep in touch from there. @pengster, i just started DxO last week. previously all no PP, just crop and convert from RAW to JPG. Next up I would love to try HDR. oh okay.i see. that software is great,now i need a compatible body and lense to maximize its potential HDR?i might try that out soon too.haha
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sniperz11	Mar 15 2008, 10:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #408
Casual Junior Member 400 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: KL	HDR... Oh i love the image & game with HDR rendering... It make the image more realistic...
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edministrator	Mar 15 2008, 11:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #409
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(sniperz11 @ Mar 15 2008, 10:39 PM) HDR... Oh i love the image & game with HDR rendering... It make the image more realistic... for games maybe more realistic. for image, it just adds color 'punch'.
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TSraymond5105	Mar 15 2008, 11:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #410
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon,my casing is also both side panels open.Super bad airflow from the casing itself.sniperz11 's widescreen is really nice.A bit regret last time didn't get the widescreen one.
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kabukiawie	Mar 15 2008, 11:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #411
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@sniperz wao.... you have a very sweet monitor. vs4121 some more(for bass freak). haha... with the xfi your rig is a nice gem.
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fylon	Mar 15 2008, 11:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #412
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Kabu Lol.. U also using V4121 right? Duh.. I was on an old school woofer! So bad..
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edministrator	Mar 15 2008, 11:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #413
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	all nice nice speakers, me cikai grandaddy antique speakers... btw, burning data dvds now, all HDD almost full! This post has been edited by edministrator: Mar 15 2008, 11:59 PM
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kabukiawie	Mar 16 2008, 12:04 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #414
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon i grab 2nd hand from my colleague. nice speaker but the bass is way too heavy for me. i have to turn the bass off. you havent see Edmin's dvd collection. i think the cost for the dvdr alone already cost rm1k++!!! i think almost 10+cd bags filled with dvds. This post has been edited by kabukiawie: Mar 16 2008, 12:06 AM
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sniperz11	Mar 16 2008, 12:08 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #415
Casual Junior Member 400 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: KL	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Mar 15 2008, 11:53 PM) @sniperz wao.... you have a very sweet monitor. vs4121 some more(for bass freak). haha... with the xfi your rig is a nice gem. Just a 19" monitor... But really enjoy it... Movies & gaming...
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fylon	Mar 16 2008, 12:12 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #416
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Kabu Lol.. Atleast better lo.. Woah.. DVDR alone already cost near 1k? Gosh! This edmin really a movie collector.. Eh edmin! Can buka DVD renting house liao la. I will be the 1st member..
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edministrator	Mar 16 2008, 12:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #417
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 16 2008, 12:12 AM) @Kabu Lol.. Atleast better lo.. Woah.. DVDR alone already cost near 1k? Gosh! This edmin really a movie collector.. Eh edmin! Can buka DVD renting house liao la. I will be the 1st member.. sssshhh...personal collection....tidak ada shining sticker ones...
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fylon	Mar 16 2008, 12:16 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #418
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Haha.. Nvm.. We deal with SULIT one. 1k worth of movies collection.. Haha! I wanna robe ur house liao la.. Cant resist of ur stuff! Kabu, wanna join me? Ops.. OT too much..
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TSraymond5105	Mar 16 2008, 12:17 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #419
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Maybe those stickers are at behind.
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kabukiawie	Mar 16 2008, 12:25 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #420
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	got sticker... wahaha... got price on it. hohoho fylon, no need robe 1. a phone call then you can get the movie you want from him. wahahaha..... btw, anyone tried vista in their 478 rig already??
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charliemah	Mar 16 2008, 01:11 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #421
Getting Started Junior Member 200 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Hell	Want to ask something...I got 1 P4 3.06GHz, so my P4 or E6320 better performance/faster?
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edministrator	Mar 16 2008, 01:27 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #422
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(charliemah @ Mar 16 2008, 01:11 AM) Want to ask something...I got 1 P4 3.06GHz, so my P4 or E6320 better performance/faster? E6320 better perfomance, faster.
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charliemah	Mar 16 2008, 01:42 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #423
Getting Started Junior Member 200 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Hell	QUOTE(edministrator @ Mar 16 2008, 01:27 AM) E6320 better perfomance, faster. Ok..thanks a lot .
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sniperz11	Mar 16 2008, 03:29 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #424
Casual Junior Member 400 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: KL	Of course Dual Core more faster... It like u have 2 brain to process 1 info... This post has been edited by sniperz11: Mar 16 2008, 05:30 AM
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herojack41	Mar 16 2008, 08:16 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #425
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(sniperz11 @ Mar 16 2008, 03:29 AM) Of course Dual Core more faster... It like u have 2 brain to process 1 info... if im not wrong...Intel HT=Core 2 duo its revolution of hyper threading
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sniperz11	Mar 16 2008, 08:45 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #426
Casual Junior Member 400 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: KL	QUOTE(herojack41 @ Mar 16 2008, 08:16 AM) if im not wrong...Intel HT=Core 2 duo its revolution of hyper threading Hehehe... That why i love my P4 HT... This post has been edited by sniperz11: Mar 16 2008, 08:46 AM
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edministrator	Mar 16 2008, 08:46 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #427
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(herojack41 @ Mar 16 2008, 08:16 AM) if im not wrong...Intel HT=Core 2 duo its revolution of hyper threading Hyperthreading is virtualized, meanwhile dual core is physical core. super big difference. different implementation, different technology, different performance. The difference between a CPU with HT Technology and a dual core CPU is huge, this is because you have two physical cores vs one physical core and a logical core split approximately 50/50 through load balancing. You'll see in the future that intel might commercialize HT into multicore CPU. Imagine quad core become octacore through HT. This post has been edited by edministrator: Mar 16 2008, 09:06 AM
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fylon	Mar 16 2008, 08:58 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #428
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@charliemah Gosh.. What a question... QUOTE(herojack41 @ Mar 16 2008, 08:16 AM) if im not wrong...Intel HT=Core 2 duo its revolution of hyper threading Man.. Do u what HT exactly is? HT? I suggest u search on the net 1st before give any comment.
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herojack41	Mar 16 2008, 10:31 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #429
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	but those IT shop they give me is....HT like core 2 duo
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edministrator	Mar 16 2008, 11:43 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #430
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(herojack41 @ Mar 16 2008, 10:31 AM) but those IT shop they give me is....HT like core 2 duo to the "IT Shop" that u know: next time, better avoid those shops, u cannot expect quality service, nor accurate info from them. buy your needed stuff if u feel the price is right for u there and quickly GTFO. This post has been edited by edministrator: Mar 16 2008, 11:49 AM
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herojack41	Mar 16 2008, 01:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #431
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	@ed lucky i din kena tam...before i join lyn...i was thinking making a new 478socket rig...he told me buy da HT ...same like core 2 duo
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KahLooN	Mar 16 2008, 01:44 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #432
~(^^)~ Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Cheras	@herojack Wow, they make comparison that HT = dual core? As what edmin say, HT concept is a real core + one virtual core. And dual core is both real core in a die. Guess they wan earn money from those people that doesn't know much about this kind of stuffs.
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herojack41	Mar 16 2008, 01:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #433
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(KahLooN @ Mar 16 2008, 01:44 PM) @herojack Wow, they make comparison that HT = dual core? As what edmin say, HT concept is a real core + one virtual core. And dual core is both real core in a die. Guess they wan earn money from those people that doesn't know much about this kind of stuffs. yes,indeed that shop Called E-Life yet another shop near my house
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charliemah	Mar 16 2008, 05:03 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #434
Getting Started Junior Member 200 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Hell	QUOTE(herojack41 @ Mar 16 2008, 01:46 PM) yes,indeed that shop Called E-Life yet another shop near my house Shop near housing area are vampires. They dun suck ur blood but they suck ur money. That day tio con, 1st time buy thermal compound...RM35 for 1 Cooler Master Premium Compound and inside got half tube. When i saw Nano Fusion RM25...i was like
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fylon	Mar 16 2008, 06:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #435
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@edmin Another pxnage statement. Anyway, i second ur statement thou. Time to give some proper brain wash. Haha.. @Herojack41 Next time dont blindly believe what they say. Did a survey on the net 1st. Somehow a miss leading speech will lead u to get pwn! Anyways.. HT actually are some architecture that used in Intel Xeon proc previously. And it later it been added to P4. Only the latest batch of P4 has this function yet not all. 1 real and 1 virtual core, meaning 1 core 2 thread. And also, currently only P4 S478 has this function. C2D like Coreo, Merom dont have this function. But according to review, Intel will going to put this function back to their new 32nm proc, the Octal core. So imagine 8 core and 16 thread. P/s: Correct me if my information was wrong. This post has been edited by fylon: Mar 16 2008, 06:55 PM
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charliemah	Mar 16 2008, 08:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #436
Getting Started Junior Member 200 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Hell	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 16 2008, 06:53 PM) @edmin Another pxnage statement. Anyway, i second ur statement thou. Time to give some proper brain wash. Haha.. @Herojack41 Next time dont blindly believe what they say. Did a survey on the net 1st. Somehow a miss leading speech will lead u to get pwn! Anyways.. HT actually are some architecture that used in Intel Xeon proc previously. And it later it been added to P4. Only the latest batch of P4 has this function yet not all. 1 real and 1 virtual core, meaning 1 core 2 thread. And also, currently only P4 S478 has this function. C2D like Coreo, Merom dont have this function. But according to review, Intel will going to put this function back to their new 32nm proc, the Octal core. So imagine 8 core and 16 thread. P/s: Correct me if my information was wrong. I wonder how much for 1 proc.
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edministrator	Mar 16 2008, 09:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #437
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(charliemah @ Mar 16 2008, 08:56 PM) I wonder how much for 1 proc. don't imagine now. come back 2 the real world, hahaha... well, prepare for price drops of dual core and influx of new processor generations such as nehalem and bloomfield. things are looking good. with improvements and competition from AMD, it means competitive price and better performance for consumers. meanwhile, i'll just sit back and relax with my popcorn watching the CPU tech and price war, grab one when i really need one! OK, back to s478 topic, who has added anything new to their rig recently? I just cleaned a lot of dust from my casing... a bit OT: anyone wants a USB 2.0 TV Tuner+FM Tuner? PM me pls, special offer for ppl on this thread! What you can do with this gadget? watch + record your favourite TV shows on your PC (can schedule it), record your FM channel, you can even hook up any composite/svga and record into your PC! wonderful stuff.
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fylon	Mar 16 2008, 09:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #438
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Lol.. But i think until now, S478 still stand some of the value in compare of newer system. See the price of LG775 P4 and S478 P4.. S478 still worth. Only grab when need, other wise spent the $$ for other better thing. Hm.. UDS TV tuner? Haha.. Saw it when i was working last time. But duno it got the function to record fav tv show and FM. U own one edmin? Or u had use it already for testing purpose?
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sniperz11	Mar 16 2008, 09:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #439
Casual Junior Member 400 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: KL	QUOTE(edministrator @ Mar 16 2008, 09:12 PM) OK, back to s478 topic, who has added anything new to their rig recently? I just cleaned a lot of dust from my casing... Hehehe... Same here... Want to vacuum my rig this night...
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herojack41	Mar 16 2008, 09:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #440
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(edministrator @ Mar 16 2008, 09:12 PM) don't imagine now. come back 2 the real world, hahaha... well, prepare for price drops of dual core and influx of new processor generations such as nehalem and bloomfield. things are looking good. with improvements and competition from AMD, it means competitive price and better performance for consumers. meanwhile, i'll just sit back and relax with my popcorn watching the CPU tech and price war, grab one when i really need one! OK, back to s478 topic, who has added anything new to their rig recently? I just cleaned a lot of dust from my casing... a bit OT: anyone wants a USB 2.0 TV Tuner+FM Tuner? PM me pls, special offer for ppl on this thread! What you can do with this gadget? watch + record your favourite TV shows on your PC (can schedule it), record your FM channel, you can even hook up any composite/svga and record into your PC! wonderful stuff. haha...going to remove da 478socket and add da silverstone NT02 cooler
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kabukiawie	Mar 16 2008, 09:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #441
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(edministrator @ Mar 16 2008, 09:12 PM) a bit OT: anyone wants a USB 2.0 TV Tuner+FM Tuner? PM me pls, special offer for ppl on this thread! What you can do with this gadget? watch + record your favourite TV shows on your PC (can schedule it), record your FM channel, you can even hook up any composite/svga and record into your PC! wonderful stuff. wanna let go yours?? haha.. i can smell something comming in your collection. hapauge?? QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 16 2008, 09:22 PM) Lol.. But i think until now, S478 still stand some of the value in compare of newer system. See the price of LG775 P4 and S478 P4.. S478 still worth. Only grab when need, other wise spent the $$ for other better thing. Hm.. UDS TV tuner? Haha.. Saw it when i was working last time. But duno it got the function to record fav tv show and FM. U own one edmin? Or u had use it already for testing purpose? i believe is the 1 that he using right now. quite nice if you ask me. watch tv programs on his 24" dell is sweet. just too bad our tv channel is not hd. if in US then we can have perfect quality drama series without have to download.
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herojack41	Mar 16 2008, 09:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #442
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Mar 16 2008, 09:49 PM) wanna let go yours?? haha.. i can smell something comming in your collection. hapauge?? i believe is the 1 that he using right now. quite nice if you ask me. watch tv programs on his 24" dell is sweet. just too bad our tv channel is not hd. if in US then we can have perfect quality drama series without have to download. at US stream pun boleh.....they offering 100mbps internet speed
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edministrator	Mar 16 2008, 10:01 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #443
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 16 2008, 09:22 PM) Hm.. UDS TV tuner? Haha.. Saw it when i was working last time. But duno it got the function to record fav tv show and FM. U own one edmin? Or u had use it already for testing purpose? yeap, bought last time to be used with my 19" LCD, love it very much. Even did some conversion of old VHS to DVD and VCD using this device (business, hehe), also helped my colleague to record his interview with FM91.9 to AudioCD format! No more cassette tape recordings! Now I have an external tuner paired with my 24", so a bit sayang leaving this gadget under utilised. If really interested, i m really letting go very cheap, just want duit kopi only. Better I leave this gadget with guys that really utilise them. XP and vista compatible. Added on March 16, 2008, 10:03 pm QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Mar 16 2008, 09:49 PM) wanna let go yours?? haha.. i can smell something comming in your collection. hapauge?? bro, funding for our year end trip, kampateehhhhhh... Added on March 16, 2008, 10:13 pm QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Mar 16 2008, 09:49 PM) wanna let go yours?? haha.. i can smell something comming in your collection. hapauge?? i believe is the 1 that he using right now. quite nice if you ask me. watch tv programs on his 24" dell is sweet. halo bro, u know la, our TV program, not so UmmPpphh...so mostly utilised for DVI from s478, watch movies/drama/anime..kekeke... Only turn on TV channels for news sometimes, and the last I watched TV programs on this 24" was during "KEPUTUSAN PILIHANRAYA", that one also waited until fed up, went online for faster results Definition of sweetness would be the HD format of Gundam 00 on the screen, orgasm~! 20+ mins=350mb, HD...hoho... Also FF7:Advent Children ori DVD... orgasm orgasm orgasmmmmm Oh, it is lovely getting to watch Lost and other series on this baby. Also means that s478 is no loser in playing hi-res videos! This post has been edited by edministrator: Mar 16 2008, 10:20 PM
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kabukiawie	Mar 16 2008, 10:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #444
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	wao... now gilaing on HD stuffs??
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fylon	Mar 16 2008, 10:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #445
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Edmin LOL!! The one u wanna let go is USB type of internal pci version? Hm.. Might interested since i used to watch TV series alot. Was thinking how im going to survive in KL when i move to study without TV. Kakaka.. But antenna needed right? Well.. Funding for year end honey moon?
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edministrator	Mar 16 2008, 11:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #446
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	@fylon, pure USB 2.0 version. can hook up with notebook or PC. the antenna i use is the RM10 indoor type u can purchase from anywhere. (20 sen discount store, etc), good enough for clear reception. can also hook up PS2 and play on notebook LCD through this device, hahaha... not honeymoon, it is bachelor trip with kabu! Added on March 17, 2008, 12:01 am QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Mar 16 2008, 10:30 PM) wao... now gilaing on HD stuffs?? the poison shall reach u sooner or later....hehe... but aXXo and most scene releases is good enough on the 24" bro, not need HD! This post has been edited by edministrator: Mar 17 2008, 12:03 AM
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fylon	Mar 17 2008, 12:11 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #447
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@edmin Lol.. Provided the devices that u wanna hook has USB port right? Well.. Are the device handy enough? Hope that it wasnt good piece on kantang! Ic.. U still studying? Or gonna have ur graduation ceremony?
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edministrator	Mar 17 2008, 12:17 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #448
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 17 2008, 12:11 AM) @edmin Lol.. Provided the devices that u wanna hook has USB port right? Well.. Are the device handy enough? Hope that it wasnt good piece on kantang! Ic.. U still studying? Or gonna have ur graduation ceremony? No external power needed, device very handy, around 1/2 size of a normal ADSL modem, weigh around 300g. Model PV-TV309U+, Pixelview. Picture quality will be degraded running on USB 1.1. Both of us grad liao. Simpan $ for our confirmed holiday travels.
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fylon	Mar 17 2008, 12:29 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #449
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	LOL! Sure.. Wait i count my wallet 1st! Had burnt some hole during my KL trip.. Need to count abit 1st. Ic.. Honeymoon? P/s: Oh yea edmin.. Do u still rmb the HD video that u posted few months ago? Hehe.. I still keep the file, just wander how PureVideo help in pairing up GPU & CPU power to decode the file. Whats the result? Plan to fire up my procs and GC to test the video up. This post has been edited by fylon: Mar 17 2008, 12:40 AM
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edministrator	Mar 17 2008, 01:31 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #450
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 17 2008, 12:29 AM) LOL! Sure.. Wait i count my wallet 1st! Had burnt some hole during my KL trip.. Need to count abit 1st. Ic.. Honeymoon? P/s: Oh yea edmin.. Do u still rmb the HD video that u posted few months ago? Hehe.. I still keep the file, just wander how PureVideo help in pairing up GPU & CPU power to decode the file. Whats the result? Plan to fire up my procs and GC to test the video up. wah lao oledi said bachelor trip, u still ask honeymoon does help, but not completely. mine manage to stay in the 20-23 fps region only. U mean the GITS HD video ya? This post has been edited by edministrator: Mar 17 2008, 01:43 AM
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fylon	Mar 17 2008, 10:25 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #451
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@edmin Lol.. Honeymoon more suitable the trip title.. Ic.. Only manage to squeeze 2-3 fps? Btw, just download the PureVideo Decoder and run the test only? Haha.. Yea.. The GITS HD! Now free.. Dont play to play OC liao, then try some other thing S478 can do. Take the change utilized the system.
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kabukiawie	Mar 17 2008, 02:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #452
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	not suitable at all... wahaha... i will join him for the trip as well. i tried purevideo as well... not much improvement la.... hd still rely heavily on cpu and gpu. hmm...
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fylon	Mar 17 2008, 07:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #453
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	LOL.. Both of u going to hunt some item? Lol.. @edmin Our rigs support MAC OS? Hm.. Was wandering about this. If can then i wanna migrate to mac! This post has been edited by fylon: Mar 17 2008, 07:12 PM
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edministrator	Mar 17 2008, 07:27 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #454
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 17 2008, 07:10 PM) LOL.. Both of u going to hunt some item? Lol.. @edmin Our rigs support MAC OS? Hm.. Was wandering about this. If can then i wanna migrate to mac! no. cannot. even if u can, why bother??? previoously there was a hacked version, but not stable and had issues. i bet u gonna scream and come back 2 windows. i got the chance 2 live with a macbook for 2 weeks at office. dumped the mac in less than 24 hours. reason? simple. application and compatibilities with most of the thing i do, and of course I don't wanna spend time learning this OS. Rather use my sweet time to master linux.
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fylon	Mar 17 2008, 07:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #455
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Owh.. Just went to my fren's office visit his new server. IBM blade and i saw he was using MAC. Looks prertty cool.. Thats why i wander can our system support MAC or not. Haha.. Btw, which version of linux are the most compatible with our system? I mean in term of driver issues. I do saw quite a few of linux such like red hat, ubuntu, deforal and so on.. Just wander which one is doing good. Btw, whats the different with linux and windows and MAC? Still cant get it. Just know mac are vice versa of Windows.
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charliemah	Mar 17 2008, 08:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #456
Getting Started Junior Member 200 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Hell	Geezz...i wonder why still got ppl using S478. Myself exchanged s478 3.0GHz HT for a S775 3.06GHz. lolx
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fylon	Mar 17 2008, 08:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #457
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(charliemah @ Mar 17 2008, 08:21 PM) Geezz...i wonder why still got ppl using S478. Myself exchanged s478 3.0GHz HT for a S775 3.06GHz. lolx @charliemah There were some ppl which still using S370 instead of S478. Why we cant use S478 then? This is a place for old school user to hang up and share they experiences on this system. We still using S478 is because its performance & power is enough for our daily task. And we make use & utilized of the power. Although its outdated in compare to current system like C2D. But well, is enough for us. No point to get a good system but under utilize it. It's a waste of money. PC are not just for OC & gaming. There were still lots more stuff can be do with it. Then let me ask u, why u wanna use socket T? How much had u learned on Scoket T and how much had u fully utilized ur rigs right beside gaming and OC? alright.. No hard feeling behold to my word. Just my 2 cent on why there were still some user still using old school. Anyways, if my words hurt ur feeling, i apologize for it. Just I'm try to bring out the facts the thinking of old school user. Cheers! This post has been edited by fylon: Mar 17 2008, 08:45 PM
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herojack41	Mar 17 2008, 08:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #458
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 17 2008, 08:42 PM) @charliemah There were some ppl which still using S370 instead of S478. Why we cant use S478 then? This is a place for old school user to hang up and share they experiences on this system. We still using S478 is because its performance & power is enough for our daily task. And we make use & utilized of the power. Although its outdated in compare to current system like C2D. But well, is enough for us. No point to get a good system but under utilize it. It's a waste of money. PC are not just for OC & gaming. There were still lots more stuff can be do with it. Then let me ask u, why u wanna use socket T? How much had u learned on Scoket T and how much had u fully utilized ur rigs right beside gaming and OC? alright.. No hard feeling behold to my word. Just my 2 cent on why there were still some user still using old school. Anyways, if my words hurt ur feeling, i apologize for it. Just I'm try to bring out the facts the thinking of old school user. Cheers! straight dude ....but support your article
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fylon	Mar 17 2008, 08:51 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #459
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@herojack41 Its not an article la! Statement instead. Anyways, just i wanna make the thing clear. This are the fact of why we still stick to old school like P4. Well.. No point u just get a quad core for gaming and OC for fun. Right? With the power of Quad, u can even do lot much of thing such like multi tasking, encoding video/audio and lot more. Just somehow, i cant stand when ppl is saying old system is out and totally no value. No. Its wrong, even though is old, but heck.. Ur current latest system was a revolution from the old system.
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herojack41	Mar 17 2008, 09:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #460
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 17 2008, 08:51 PM) @herojack41 Its not an article la! Statement instead. Anyways, just i wanna make the thing clear. This are the fact of why we still stick to old school like P4. Well.. No point u just get a quad core for gaming and OC for fun. Right? With the power of Quad, u can even do lot much of thing such like multi tasking, encoding video/audio and lot more. Just somehow, i cant stand when ppl is saying old system is out and totally no value. No. Its wrong, even though is old, but heck.. Ur current latest system was a revolution from the old system. hurm correct....unless u really hardcore gamer...or code video like gay....so far i think p4 478 socket still able to hold up daily usage,like surfing,dling and medium gaming of course no Crysis for 478 unless tweak kolt kolt..... Guys....was thinking to remove da bracket tonite or tomoro...will update my big project later on
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charliemah	Mar 17 2008, 09:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #461
Getting Started Junior Member 200 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Hell	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 17 2008, 08:42 PM) @charliemah There were some ppl which still using S370 instead of S478. Why we cant use S478 then? This is a place for old school user to hang up and share they experiences on this system. We still using S478 is because its performance & power is enough for our daily task. And we make use & utilized of the power. Although its outdated in compare to current system like C2D. But well, is enough for us. No point to get a good system but under utilize it. It's a waste of money. PC are not just for OC & gaming. There were still lots more stuff can be do with it. Then let me ask u, why u wanna use socket T? How much had u learned on Scoket T and how much had u fully utilized ur rigs right beside gaming and OC? alright.. No hard feeling behold to my word. Just my 2 cent on why there were still some user still using old school. Anyways, if my words hurt ur feeling, i apologize for it. Just I'm try to bring out the facts the thinking of old school user. Cheers! Waaa...kinda like an essay. Can be lecturer.
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edministrator	Mar 17 2008, 09:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #462
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	article, lolx.... most of the points covered by fylon, no need for me to say more. then let me ask charliemah this question: why change your s478 3.0HT for a s775 3.06 (btw, i searched for 3.06 s775, came up only celeron) what is the purpose? In this case, the 3.0GHz HT will be more powerful in term of raw power, FSB of 800 vs 533, also the HT. Even if u own a new rig, can you list out what r u utilising your rig for? gaming? surfing? watching movies? what else? I have to admit our old skool can't really catch up with newer games, but with newer AGP cards, new games are tolerable. Anyway, not everyone spends time on gaming. Everyone's PC usage habit is different. Most of the thread regulars here are still very satisfied with our current PC and very passionate about our baby. Not everyone can afford a new rig. We basically can do lots of stuff with our PC such as surfing, encoding, almost everything that you guys can do with a newer PC, albeit a little slower on the raw speed. I don't want to buy a new rig just because it is the greatest and latest, I wanna own one because I need one. be a smart consumer! Hope u guys get the idea. This post has been edited by edministrator: Mar 17 2008, 09:27 PM
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herojack41	Mar 17 2008, 09:27 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #463
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	OT:ed....wao u got FF7 advent children original cd? share?
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edministrator	Mar 17 2008, 09:29 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #464
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(herojack41 @ Mar 17 2008, 09:27 PM) OT:ed....wao u got FF7 advent children original cd? share? dun have. sorry. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « only DVD This post has been edited by edministrator: Mar 17 2008, 09:30 PM
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TSraymond5105	Mar 17 2008, 09:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #465
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(charliemah @ Mar 17 2008, 08:21 PM) Geezz...i wonder why still got ppl using S478. Myself exchanged s478 3.0GHz HT for a S775 3.06GHz. lolx Ok,let me ask you.Now if you are on Socket T which is using P4 3.06GHz,do you think that your current cpu can run faster than mine or fylon one?Let's compare the processor's benchmark and see if you are so ego with your new Socket T. Why don't you use C2D or C2Q if you are afford?Technology is keeping changing daily,i don't see any need for major upgrade for us if we are not meant to play super high end games like Crysis and FarCry 2. @fylon,don't bother that much with this kid. THe way he is talking is really hurting all of us. This post has been edited by raymond5105: Mar 17 2008, 10:02 PM
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herojack41	Mar 17 2008, 10:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #466
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Mar 17 2008, 09:49 PM) Ok,let me ask you.Now if you are on Socket T which is using P4 3.06GHz,do you think that your current cpu can run faster than mine or fylon one?Let's compare the processor's benchmark and see if you are so ego with your new Socket T. Why don't you use C2D or C2Q if you are afford?Technology is keeping changing daily,i don't see any need for major upgrade for us if we are not meant to play high super high end games like Crysis and FarCry 2. @fylon,don't bother that much with this kid. THe way he is talking is really hurting all of us. aiya...raymond why gone so mad calm down
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TSraymond5105	Mar 17 2008, 10:05 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #467
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(herojack41 @ Mar 17 2008, 10:02 PM) aiya...raymond why gone so mad calm down Calm down already,if he really so proud of his P4 3.06GHz with Socket T.Last question to as him,socket T with P4 is already outdated for long long time,why is he still using that?
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herojack41	Mar 17 2008, 10:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #468
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Mar 17 2008, 10:05 PM) Calm down already,if he really so proud of his P4 3.06GHz with Socket T.Last question to as him,socket T with P4 is already outdated for long long time,why is he still using that? haha...pwnx,correct...... btw ray....re-edit your first page typo.....its V6 now
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TSraymond5105	Mar 17 2008, 10:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #469
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(herojack41 @ Mar 17 2008, 10:09 PM) haha...pwnx,correct...... btw ray....re-edit your first page typo.....its V6 now Already corrected.
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charliemah	Mar 17 2008, 10:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #470
Getting Started Junior Member 200 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Hell	Speechless Asking why ppl using s478, in the end sound like tio marah.
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fylon	Mar 17 2008, 10:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #471
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@edmin Ehe.. Speed doesnt matter as long as not like turtle will do already. Slow by few secs doesnt make any different. P/s: Oh yea.. Back to my question regarding to linux.. Any good and better OS to intro which is compatible with our system? What i scare is driver issues. Wanna give a try on other system.. @Ray CALM DOWN!! putting 3 biji table fan blowing on him Haha.. Dont panas la! Not good for health man! Guess this kid had learned his lesson. @charliemah Its because ur question are sensitive. Atleast for me, it sounds like abit look down on my system. Altough maybe u dont meant it but u had hurt the feeling of the old school user at this thread without notice. Thats why everyone stand up to defend their baby. Just like what edmin says, why we still using it is because it still enough for our use. And we are SATISFIED with the power and performance it gave. Hence i guess u had got the answer for ur question. P/s: Oh yea.. Until now i guess, S478 still owning its antique value.. Put ur eyes on current system, LG775 based P4 is totally PHASED out and it dont even worth a penny. 775 based P4 proc wont hook up more then RM150 i guess. from what i can see in garage sales* But for S478, another different story. S478 3.0Ghz proc at least can hook up to RM200. See the antique value. I hope u see it. Old doesnt means out but the value it own are priceless. This post has been edited by fylon: Mar 17 2008, 10:35 PM
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charliemah	Mar 17 2008, 10:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #472
Getting Started Junior Member 200 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Hell	My bad....i apologize to all of you if i hurt ur feeling.
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TSraymond5105	Mar 17 2008, 10:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #473
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon,no panas la.Jusy a bit not syok with his question.I do have a Socket 423,does he want to ask why i'm still keeping the antique?
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fylon	Mar 17 2008, 10:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #474
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@charliemah Refer to my previous post again.. Some add on. Anyways, no hard feeling. Look at the bright side, atleast now u learned a lesson which is u cant gain it on other thread. @raymond5105 Haha.. Kabu do keep his Socket A as well. This is a good question for him as well. Duh.. Just let them say whatever they want.. But I'm still proud of my Black Pearl! P/s: Any name for ur rigs? Guess u still name it. Btw.. Found some nice AGP on sales. Try ur luck ray.. The 76GS DDR3 seems interesting.. C/O is RM200.. See can hook it with RM250 or not.. PALIT GeForce 7600GS DDR3 HIS ATI Radeon X800PRO DDR3 This post has been edited by fylon: Mar 17 2008, 10:43 PM
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edministrator	Mar 17 2008, 10:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #475
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 17 2008, 10:26 PM) @edmin Ehe.. Speed doesnt matter as long as not like turtle will do already. Slow by few secs doesnt make any different. P/s: Oh yea.. Back to my question regarding to linux.. Any good and better OS to intro which is compatible with our system? What i scare is driver issues. Wanna give a try on other system.. bro, if u r doing encoding and decoding like me, dual/quad core vs P4 is not matter of seconds, is MINUTES + HOURS. tried an encoding stuff on a quad, took 6 hours. using my system, need 24 hours! For linux based systems, u can try ubuntu, user friendly. For me, i would try Suse Linux since it is SMB oriented. Linux driver provides you will all basic features. U want fancy, windows is still the best. Example, xfi/audigy drivers in linux does not sound as good as in windows.
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fylon	Mar 17 2008, 10:47 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #476
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@edmin LOL! I dont mean that kind of super heavy duty encoding.. For the type of encoding that u mentioned, it really need the powah of quad to done. Well.. For normal usage like applications / games few secs of delay doesnt make any different right. Ever try do encoding stuf with server based system? Any different with normal desktop? Woah.. That gonna be hard.. Thought can use my SC on linux.. Ubuntu is the penguin version right? Tested the linux OS in the Asus EEE pc before.. Well not so bad.. Just quite simple. Everything is straight to the point no fancy stuff. This post has been edited by fylon: Mar 17 2008, 10:49 PM
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edministrator	Mar 17 2008, 10:47 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #477
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 17 2008, 10:34 PM) @raymond5105 Haha.. Kabu do keep his Socket A as well. This is a good question for him as well. Duh.. Just let them say whatever they want.. But I'm still proud of my Black Pearl! Haha, hope kabu don't mind I answer on his behalf. He uses that rig for: 1. Web surfing, downloads. 2. Light gaming. 3. Movies and anime. 4. MP3. 5. MS Office applications. Secondary rig of his, so can always have one PC running when the other is down. But most of the time the PC is occupied by his sisters. Sharing is caring, hehe... That socket A also most parts were salvaged and got it cheap (some 2nd hand), because most important thing is that the PC can serve its intended purpose. Mine is my primary rig, my only PC that got me through my degree studies. Bought a lappy for my sis last year for her university studies, so I have no ownership on that (keluar duit only), no lappy for myself. So poor me still dependant only lovely s478 for...well, u guys already know la, macam macam. This post has been edited by edministrator: Mar 17 2008, 10:57 PM
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fylon	Mar 17 2008, 10:55 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #478
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Lol.. Like astro advertisement.. Macam macam ada.. So do me, my system was the primary rigs for me. Will gonna bring it to continue my degree again, soon. Haha.. But i thought u got an old school lappy edmin? This post has been edited by fylon: Mar 17 2008, 10:56 PM
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edministrator	Mar 17 2008, 10:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #479
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 17 2008, 10:55 PM) Lol.. Like astro advertisement.. Macam macam ada.. So do me, my system was the primary rigs for me. Will gonna bring it to continue my degree again, soon. Haha.. But i thought u got an old school lappy edmin? Itu lappy company, not mine. that's my main workstation in the office. Pity the lappy, heavy duty processing of autocad, photoshop, print server, programming platform, video encoding etc. hope company can sponsor me a new dell xps1330 this year lor...wakakaka.... This post has been edited by edministrator: Mar 17 2008, 11:01 PM
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khai84siong	Mar 17 2008, 11:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #480
Getting Started Junior Member 249 posts Joined: Jul 2007 From: ~Some where over the rainbow~	hi guys, just dropping by @raymond 1st time i see raymond 'not syok with another forummer' means the forummer must have done smth really wrong to this family of s478 users to THEE "forummer", u should equip urself with defenses b4 giving "unappropriate comment" in here coz we have old guys here who is more knowledgeable than u ar c u guys again, jya ne, sayonara
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edministrator	Mar 17 2008, 11:04 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #481
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 17 2008, 10:47 PM) @edmin LOL! I dont mean that kind of super heavy duty encoding.. For the type of encoding that u mentioned, it really need the powah of quad to done. Well.. For normal usage like applications / games few secs of delay doesnt make any different right. Ever try do encoding stuf with server based system? Any different with normal desktop? Woah.. That gonna be hard.. Thought can use my SC on linux.. Ubuntu is the penguin version right? Tested the linux OS in the Asus EEE pc before.. Well not so bad.. Just quite simple. Everything is straight to the point no fancy stuff. tried with Xeon, no difference (if got also seconds i guess). huge difference is with multicore. If u want straight to the point stuff then linux is good. But u cannot tahan one lah, sure come back 2 windows, hahhaa... Good thing about linux is it is free, open source OS and Open Office works with it. No licensing required unlike Windows. But then again, good things usually comes with a price.
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TSraymond5105	Mar 17 2008, 11:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #482
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 17 2008, 10:34 PM) @charliemah Refer to my previous post again.. Some add on. Anyways, no hard feeling. Look at the bright side, atleast now u learned a lesson which is u cant gain it on other thread. @raymond5105 Haha.. Kabu do keep his Socket A as well. This is a good question for him as well. Duh.. Just let them say whatever they want.. But I'm still proud of my Black Pearl! P/s: Any name for ur rigs? Guess u still name it. Btw.. Found some nice AGP on sales. Try ur luck ray.. The 76GS DDR3 seems interesting.. C/O is RM200.. See can hook it with RM250 or not.. PALIT GeForce 7600GS DDR3 HIS ATI Radeon X800PRO DDR3 A name for my pc?Nice idea,i've never think about it. 7600GS from Palit seems like doesn't look so solid from it's outlook.RM200 for it is definately worth.
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fylon	Mar 17 2008, 11:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #483
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(edministrator @ Mar 17 2008, 10:58 PM) Itu lappy company, not mine. that's my main workstation in the office. Pity the lappy, heavy duty processing of autocad, photoshop, print server, programming platform, video encoding etc. hope company can sponsor me a new dell xps1330 this year lor...wakakaka.... Haha.. I thought it was urs. Nvm.. As long as can be us ok liao. Company usually very jimat one. But i was lucky when that i was working with HP, i was using their HP DV2715TU then change to their 1316AU.. Both are nice system but pity vista based. Owh.. Yea. Tested the OS before on the EEE. Cause my uncle might be wanna let go his EEE at pretty low price to me. So think was about wanna grab it for further study use or not. Since i saw a post says that the EEE PC can be slot in OSX Leopard. @Ray Lol.. But the performance should be on par with 76GS since is the DDR3 ver. Bloody red PBC..
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edministrator	Mar 17 2008, 11:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #484
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 17 2008, 11:18 PM) Haha.. I thought it was urs. Nvm.. As long as can be us ok liao. Company usually very jimat one. But i was lucky when that i was working with HP, i was using their HP DV2715TU then change to their 1316AU.. Both are nice system but pity vista based. Owh.. Yea. Tested the OS before on the EEE. Cause my uncle might be wanna let go his EEE at pretty low price to me. So think was about wanna grab it for further study use or not. Since i saw a post says that the EEE PC can be slot in OSX Leopard. @Ray Lol.. But the performance should be on par with 76GS since is the DDR3 ver. Bloody red PBC.. can install OSX onto the lappy also useless. low resolution (800x600). no 3D acceleration. OSX leopard will put the eee pc to shame.... trust me, the eee pc is not suitable for students. no DVDROM, etc... This post has been edited by edministrator: Mar 17 2008, 11:25 PM
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fylon	Mar 17 2008, 11:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #485
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Haha.. U got the point as well. Hm.. the eee is for makcik right? But i just think off can have handy note book for carrying my stuff eg. like docs for presentation or hang starbuck for surfing only. P/s: Edmin, ur using the same vga cooler as me right? The zalman FS-V7.. I just wander does the function GPU Fan Setting in nTune works with our cooler? Since i dont connect the cooler fan power to the GC, instead i use the Y-Cable that come along with the cooler to run the fan. I guess it the intelligent fan control function didnt work right? Since the power were not from the pbc/GC itself. Just wanna get a clarification regarding to this issues. This post has been edited by fylon: Mar 18 2008, 12:39 AM
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kabukiawie	Mar 18 2008, 03:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #486
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	wao.... a great war happen after someone "insulting" 478... frankly, nothing to be proud of using lga775 p4. i just let go a 2nd hand lga775 via mobo(agp + pcie combo + ddr1) with p4 3ghz HT fsb800 rig last month. my friend let it go for cheap, i tested it quite satisfied with it and can easily run stable at 3.6GHz no sweat. but i cant feel much different with my 478, end up just let go the rig to my cousin. i just swap the 9550 with my 5200.. hehe.. QUOTE(edministrator @ Mar 17 2008, 10:47 PM) Haha, hope kabu don't mind I answer on his behalf. He uses that rig for: 1. Web surfing, downloads. 2. Light gaming. 3. Movies and anime. 4. MP3. 5. MS Office applications. Secondary rig of his, so can always have one PC running when the other is down. But most of the time the PC is occupied by his sisters. Sharing is caring, hehe... That socket A also most parts were salvaged and got it cheap (some 2nd hand), because most important thing is that the PC can serve its intended purpose. Mine is my primary rig, my only PC that got me through my degree studies. Bought a lappy for my sis last year for her university studies, so I have no ownership on that (keluar duit only), no lappy for myself. So poor me still dependant only lovely s478 for...well, u guys already know la, macam macam. thanks, bro... correct a bit on my rig purpose. 2. Light gaming. <== is super lite, play cracked popcap games my sis rampas my 478, watch anime, surfing/download. i just use my puny socket A for some lite torrenting for movies. XD
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fylon	Mar 18 2008, 03:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #487
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Haha.. If LG775 then dont use P4 anymore unless EE edition. Or else, stick to S478. Guess nothing much different with LG775 & S478 P4, both are same architecture and system. Right? Just finish watch the Terminator series.. 1 Go morning til now. Some conversation been skipped.
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edministrator	Mar 18 2008, 03:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #488
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 17 2008, 11:33 PM) P/s: Edmin, ur using the same vga cooler as me right? The zalman FS-V7.. I just wander does the function GPU Fan Setting in nTune works with our cooler? Since i dont connect the cooler fan power to the GC, instead i use the Y-Cable that come along with the cooler to run the fan. I guess it the intelligent fan control function didnt work right? Since the power were not from the pbc/GC itself. Just wanna get a clarification regarding to this issues. Nope, ntune fan control does not work coz our AGP cards lack of onboard fan controller.
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fylon	Mar 18 2008, 03:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #489
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@edmin So that function is useless for our card right. Jus the thermal sensor is working working only. Thanks for the information.. Was ripping my CDs to mp3 format.. Ram really play important roll in this. Haha.. Rip into highest bit rate 320kbps.. 1 CD takes less then 5misn to be done. Well.. Guess is not an heavy task for P4 right. P/s: Btw, is CD quality effect the ripping speed? I tried on both original CD and ehm type.. Can feel the different of speed when ripping. This post has been edited by fylon*: Mar 18 2008, 03:40 PM
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edministrator	Mar 18 2008, 03:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #490
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	@fylon, Why go for lossy compression when u can go loseless? Ditch MP3, go APE or FLAC. I always convert later to MP3 only when needed. Oh, btw, don't just think that by ripping it fast means your PC is fast. NO. The risk of data loss is possible. This is not our PC issue. Your DVD/CD Drive might compensate with 0 data during data loss, making your songs skipping etc. This post has been edited by edministrator: Mar 18 2008, 03:44 PM
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fylon	Mar 18 2008, 03:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #491
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Haha.. I convert into MP3 so can slot into my handphone. Btw, did APE & FLAC been widely support by most of the player for now.. P/s: Ic.. I thought the quality of CD effect the speed thou. This post has been edited by fylon: Mar 18 2008, 03:48 PM
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edministrator	Mar 18 2008, 03:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #492
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	APE and FLAC is not supported by many standard players. Anyway, if you are listening mainly on your PC with good audio setup, u cannot go wrong with lossless formats. The difference compared to MP3 is day and night. Clarity, hi and lo is audible. When I wanna listen to the songs in my car, I will either convert it to AudioCD or MP3 from the loseless format. The orginal/loseless I keep them safe in my collection.
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fylon	Mar 18 2008, 04:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #493
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Yea.. I do heard about the FLAC and APE format before. But didnt to read more about this. Thanks for telling. Got chance wanna try. Hah.. Btw, roughly how big for a file in this format? Roughly an audio file with 5mins length. Or the size is depend on the bit rate like what mp3 does?
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edministrator	Mar 18 2008, 04:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #494
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Mar 18 2008, 04:06 PM) Yea.. I do heard about the FLAC and APE format before. But didnt to read more about this. Thanks for telling. Got chance wanna try. Hah.. Btw, roughly how big for a file in this format? Roughly an audio file with 5mins length. Or the size is depend on the bit rate like what mp3 does? depending on your compression rate. I can roughly tell u it is about 50% of the entire CD size, due to loseless compression. MP3 is lossy, meaning the lower the bitrate, more data is being dumped and replaced (faked).
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fylon	Mar 18 2008, 04:13 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #495
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Ic.. Just googled it. At least my fav player, Winamp is support this format. Haha.. Was ripping some audio files into this format now for testing purpose. P/s: WAH!! Tested to rip the audio file from Audio CD to FLAC with level 10 compression factor, a 6mins long audio takes 40MB space per song. This post has been edited by fylon: Mar 18 2008, 04:16 PM
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edministrator	Mar 18 2008, 04:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #496
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	i m using winamp for every audio file. if winamp default does not support, u can always get 3rd party plug ins for winamp.
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fylon	Mar 18 2008, 04:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #497
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Same here.. Audio files all are played with winmap, for video format i prefer KMPlayer. Haha.. Just shock with the level 12 compression factor of FLAC.. The file size is incredibly BIG! P/s: Hm.. Testing with different format and found like the size for compression are almost the same. The winmap provide 12 level of compression factor, the lower compression level i choose the bigger the file is. Is that normal? Seems like the faster the compression speed the bigger then files. This post has been edited by fylon: Mar 18 2008, 04:27 PM
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edministrator	Mar 18 2008, 04:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #498
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	not sure how winamp rip the stuff. I use dbpoweramp, best....
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fylon	Mar 18 2008, 04:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #499
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Ic.. Do the dbpoweramp have the compression factor like winamp does and the file that been compressed is big?
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edministrator	Mar 18 2008, 04:31 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #500
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	lossless usually 4-5x bigger than mp3 la, no worries. I don't care about the settings adjustments, due to default loseless compression settings is always the most balanced.
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