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This post has been edited by colnagos: Mar 6 2008, 04:09 PM

yup3...
me also cancel from buy them..

"Now You Know..."


KP

Kp,my female changed her colour le.
That was after 2 years la.
But she overgroomed herself before that.
Maybe that's y the colour changed back to the normal grey.

Some is possible, some minor change, some will not.

Thats why I said "most"...

My Iggy was also brownish(not as bad as those WC) but is now lighter than before, more like grey with hints of browns. He used to rub himself a lot on the sleeping pouch and transferring the brown stains onto the pouch, then he grooms himself a lot... So his color is not as bad as before... But if overgroomed or like the furs come off, the new furs that grows will be grey Iggy has one patch of grey fur on his head where he used to overgroom till one whole patch of fur came off... And when his fur grew back, that one spot only is grey


KP

[quote=crazymouse_yyh,Mar 5 2008, 12:56 PM]
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Cute joeys. They started taking mealworms?

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Tried to intro them to mealworms but they still prefer fruits & my special brew of blended apples, honeydew & organic regular rolled oats...

This post has been edited by saramic: Mar 5 2008, 07:51 PM

last time i use fake plants for my cage decoration purpose.
my sg are hapi with those new toys for the begining.
then after few days i found them biting those fake plants and i dun know they will "eat" those fake plants or not.
i ady removed all fake plants from my cage.

thank you for the comment and advise...

cinnamon color ? post it lah here..joey that color..i oso wanna get...

where ur fren get...i cant remember who posted bout that...coz read too

much already...where to get.....ask ur fren...

GUYS...why not u post ur cage pixxies...all of us need ideas rite to deco..

mana tau boleh dpt abit of ideas ka..

KP...

i dont know what to put in that huge cage...blur already..too big...

hahaha

Normally they won't eat it. They chew it, tear it apart, make a mess or use some for nesting

From a full nice plant, till botak all



Haha, mine not as huge as your also still empty wor... No idea and no time yet to really decorate it...


KP

I'm also in the midst of thinking how to make my bigger cage more "filled up".... but cage not with me yet LOL.... most likely I will use ropes coz Kiah and Kapi like to walk and hang on their ropes.

My cage is not big enough. Is the normal RM100 cage from pet safari lah but it is so filled up with stuff! A friend saw my cage, she said my cage looks like a circus hahahah....

I was at Ikano's Pet Safari earlier and I saw at the Reptile Section got a mirror box thing (dunno what it's called) and inside it got 8 sugar gliders, all very young only.

There is a bright light shining down. I asked the man in charge, arent these nocturnal? Dont they sleep during the day? He replied yes. Then I was wondering why the lights? Because I can see all 8 of them snuggling up and hiding under shed and shadows, all facing down - possibly due to the light.

Then he said without the lights, they'd all die of cold. So the light is a must. RM700 per pair is best price offered.

I asked him to take out one of the young ones. He put it on my hand and I didnt dare to move. Neither did it. Then it moved to one corner of my hand and make squeeky sound when my sister wanted to touch it. Then when I look closer, I can feel the nails suddenly clawing tightly on my hand. Not pain but can feel the pokey.

Then quickly put it back. My sister and I also wanted to keep sugar gliders. We love them except for the fact that:

1. They cannot be toilet trained
2. They eat worms and crickets which is quite gelifying. No other source of protein?

Penny,
if u wanna get gliders or any pets, always try to find breeder and get from them.

other source of protein? ur cicak at home also can

hehehe... i know what u mean. they can also get sources of protein from chicken n eggs. used to freak out when Koochee grab a mealworm. now i gave them mealies by using a LONG forcep like clip that's used for planting aquarium plants. Hehehe....

the toilet train part...dun know wut to comment, except...that's how they mark u...mark=love.
hahahah

Yes, many of us has approached and advise the staffs at PS regarding the light and their answer is still the same... "They cold ma..." "They'll die if too cold..." Which obviously is not gonna happen if they had provide a warm piece of material of housing for them

Yes, they cannot be toilet train.

Yes, they need mealworms or crickets... Can substitude with chicken and egg, but they won't take those by itself, need to include in their mix... Mealworms or crickets is still the best I used to be squirmish, but for the sake of my monster, I learnt using the forceps, then lama-lama, got sooo used of the mealworms, not squirmish at all now! (They're really harmless little buggas )


KP

That's the scenario commonly found at most petshops. They don't provide proper housing for the gliders and also the proper information. Normally they dun give them a pouch to sleep in cos they want the customers to be able to see the creature, thus no pouch for them to hide. With the pouch in there, they'll be sleeping in there and also most gliders will become pouch protective. Bite when u try to put ur hand in the pouch.

RM700 is pretty normal price in petstores. It's better to get them from trusted breeder where u know how old is the joey and what are they fed with. Most joeys in the petstore aren't handled before, or rarely handled. That's y they are scared of human. That explains the grip when the joey was on ur hand.

As for the peeing n pooping,can't do much bout it. They are animals, and it's just normal for them to go whenever they want. If they like u, they pee on u.LOL!

Other source of protien can beobtained from chicken,turkey, and eggs like what spel'it said.

Minus the 2 bad part,they are very wonderful creatures.

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Added on March 6, 2008, 4:23 pmHaha, there was once this cicak in my house fell into the cage where i house Twinkle. She ate it. I found the remains of the cicak the next day.

This post has been edited by jitshiong: Mar 6 2008, 04:23 PM

OK, back to two important questions (I probably asked this before but I forgot the answer, dont mind some of you repeat and those of you never seen this before, can help educate me too!)

1. How much does it cost to keep a pair of sugar gliders... The cost of their supplement, grooming, food, cleaning - EACH MONTH?
2. Is it safe to put the cage outside? I know some of you had answered this with cold wind, raining and musang. What if there's cover (raincoat type of cloth) and there is a padlock at the cage door. Wouldnt that "solve" everything?

It's kind of hard to keep a caged animal indoor. My house already got two Westie, tambah somemore, sure kena whack!

I know la. Hahaha... I came so close to buying it from crazymouse_yyh last time and last minute I had to cancel. House not much cicak leh. The bloody worm and cricket are super gelifying. Luckily there are alternatives.


Chicken and eggs are a good source of protein for them eh? OK, but can they live solely on chicken and eggs as a source of protein? A lifetime without wormie and crickets, just eggs / chicken - can? If can, then it's one problem solved!

How do you avoid getting pee / poo on each time you take it out?


Hah! I'm back at the sugar glider thread again! Been wanting a pair for so so long! I think what jitshiong say is right, they dont want to give them a proper housing because they want it to be on display for the customers.

When you said mealworms and crickets are still the best. Do you mean to say that chicken and eggs' protein is insufficient? Probably not as good as raw meat (worm and cricket)?? If possible, I'd like to feed them chicken / egg all their life (if I ever get a pair, that is), without mealworms or crickets. Is that possible?

My God... the remains of the cicak sure is gross!! Anyway, I think you are right about how they want the gliders to be displayed and it's difficult to take it out once they are comfortable in the pouch.

Like me, pee on me... What is this man...

For the 2 questions, you can use the search entry with keywords such as "cost" or "outdoor" and I'm pretty sure it will guide you to the answers we have given in the past

As far as you can cover the rain for splashing or sort, what about thunder? How can you stop the thunder to avoid them getting the shock of their life?

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Yes, mealworms and crixs are still best as it's as close to their nature of feeding on insects. I'm a girl and I can get use to the mealworms for the love of my suggies, I'm sure you can too!

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Actually if they are trained to handle the joeys better, getting a joey/glider out of a pouch with the right technique is much more easier

Somehow my suggies knows not to do biz on me, but will do it on other people instead (Or it's just a matter of understanding their pee and poop time and when it's coming...)


KP

u can't avoid the pee and poo 100%
but try not to hold them right after meal and when they just woke up. let them do business first

playtime they will be less peeing. just a bit and most of the time wont smell unless they are marking u

mealworm wont be so geli after a few weeks
i used to use forceps. now single picking one by one using fingers. always pick the most healthy first. i hate giving crickets coz cant stand the smell and the noise at night its like they are having some party themselves

monthly cost i think KP already answered last time.
let say around RM50 for foods and treats.

Source of protein - I gave "dan tan" aka "sweet steamed egg" or mouse pinky.

Source of calcium - cat food, iams, once a week.

Staple food - non citric fruits

For fun - mealworms / crickets

Accidentally taken - chow kuey teow, bak kut teh, twisties