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post Aug 12 2008, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(kazasho @ Aug 12 2008, 07:14 AM)
uncle, can u define draughtsmans=kuli architect??

coz I'm thinking after B.Sc, wanna go work first. Maybe in gov. Then apply ffor scholar to further outside.
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it's very hard to imagine a draftperson that is NOT some form of a kuli to the architect. in the architect's office, the draftpersons are the bottom feeders. they are the lowest paid employees, even the receptionists are paid higher. but that's not exactly why draftpersons are referred to as the architect's slaves.

it's about the job specification. draftpersons primary job is to draw and visualize an architect's ideas. design is not their priority. ofcourse they could add their own interpretation of the architect's instructions, but this is strongly limited by the architect's final say. simply means, if u add too much, u'd be wasting ur time bcoz that's not what the architect pays u to do. ur job is to draw and draft from presentation drawings to 3D to final working drawing.

lets look at it this way:

secretaries are sometimes referred to as the boss' slave. they take calls, set appointments, manage their schedules, make coffees and so on. draftpersons are in a way very similar, but they're specialized in architectural stuffs - they do drawings, organizes technical drawings, visualize and so on.



however, with a Part 1, u're not a draftperson but a junior architect or architect's assistant. to become a draftperson u just need a politeknik certificate (2 years after SPM).
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QUOTE(mars16 @ Aug 11 2008, 06:14 PM)
Here come another new assignment for me which is a research...i was asked to do the research about Mies Van Der Rohe the architect. Can the "seniors" here give me some list of books which related to this person? just need some help if anyone had ever read about him in any book, and tell me the book name or anything related to him...

thanks in advance...
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For Design Theory, Mies's theory branches out into two ; Space and Tectonics.

For space, you can take a look at the Farnsworth House, also see his links to Suprematism.
For tectonics, you can take a look at the Seagram Building, also find his writings on honesty/purity to structure, etc.


Ask Ms.V la Joe.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Aug 12 2008, 06:57 PM)
it's very hard to imagine a draftperson that is NOT some form of a kuli to the architect. in the architect's office, the draftpersons are the bottom feeders. they are the lowest paid employees, even the receptionists are paid higher. but that's not exactly why draftpersons are referred to as the architect's slaves.

it's about the job specification. draftpersons primary job is to draw and visualize an architect's ideas. design is not their priority. ofcourse they could add their own interpretation of the architect's instructions, but this is strongly limited by the architect's final say. simply means, if u add too much, u'd be wasting ur time bcoz that's not what the architect pays u to do. ur job is to draw and draft from presentation drawings to 3D to final working drawing.

lets look at it this way:

secretaries are sometimes referred to as the boss' slave. they take calls, set appointments, manage their schedules, make coffees and so on. draftpersons are in a way very similar, but they're specialized in architectural stuffs - they do drawings, organizes technical drawings, visualize and so on.
however, with a Part 1, u're not a draftperson but a junior architect or architect's assistant. to become a draftperson u just need a politeknik certificate (2 years after SPM).
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ooooo..understood nod.gif Tenkiu.
My way = after part 1, want to work first coz payout some loans first. Later proceed to part 2, maybe in oversea. So how can I have scholarship for part 2 overseas? Work for the gov and apply jpa?
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post Aug 13 2008, 12:34 AM

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u dont need to work for the government before applying JPA. but if u do enter a contract with JPA scholarship, u would have to work for them after returning back. however, architecture is not ranked very high in JPA's scholarship list, meaning u have to compete with other social science courses for a very, very small quota.

ur other option is to apply for JPA loan, which is fairly easy to get.
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Douggy...I don't like to ask lecturer everything as usual ma(if u know me well) biggrin.gif anyway thanks to ur help. Probably i will be doing the theory about "space"..any other sources which is useful?



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I need help here!!! I've just got one of my assignments from the subject building construction. It required us to do a model of a building using the 20 x 10 x 9mm MDF blocks. Does anyone here know where to get it around KL and PJ area? How much it cost ? According to the lecturer, we will need around 3000 to 5000 pieces of blocks to complete one model. Where can find the best deal?

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r u taking the building technology class which use the blocks to do a solid construction ... well... u can go to the taman mayang art shop there n buy .. last time i bought it from there too ... i think 1000 pieces in around rm50-55.... depends .... n u need 8000 at least ...keke ...
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Hey. I'm a student of architecture at UiTM Shah Alam. I finished Matric earlier this year so I enrolled in Bachelor of Science in Architecture last July.

The thing is, my dad wants me to take my Bachelor of Architecture abroad so taking a third language(which is a must in UiTM) is essential. I'm torn between France and Japan. Both are countries with such outstanding works of architecture. So, I need some opinion/advise on which one is better/more apt for a student from Malaysia.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Aug 12 2008, 04:54 AM)
there are lots of books on MvdR and his works. i would recommend "modern architecture since 1900" as it has summed up his life's work in a small chapter. it's a good start. then when u're familiar with his works, u can explore dedicated books on his works. but before that, just find books on modern architecture (that's a specific term, not referring to "current 21st century" architecture, mind u tongue.gif). if u google for keywords "less is more" u should be able to find more stuff on his works.
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Azarimy, can you recommend me some books about glass house architecture by Philip Johnson?

I have chosen to work on the following research topic:

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Describe Philip Johnson’s theory of the International Style. Discuss its implications on the development of ‘glass house’ architecture in Western and Asian contexts.

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hey guys..dunno if this were asked before but anyways..

i'm interested to know what kind/other medium that you guys used for your presentation..?

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hi, I have a DWG file and I dun have autocad, so what else I can use to open a DWG file?


Added on August 19, 2008, 4:46 pmops i think i ask in the wrong section?

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Azarimy, can you recommend me some books about glass house architecture by Philip Johnson?

I have chosen to work on the following research topic:
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to be honest, i dont know much about philip johnson, other than he is part of the later modern movement (50s-60s). however, i did stumble upon a book that covers most of his works, but i cant remember exactly what it's called. i did browse through and it was quite thorough. more importantly, it describes his intentions in his designs, his process and approach as well. i think it's called "philip johnson's life work" (?) or something. try and google it.

QUOTE(arcanawar @ Aug 19 2008, 03:56 AM)
hey guys..dunno if this were asked before but anyways..

i'm interested to know what kind/other medium that you guys used for your presentation..?

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i guess my presentation techniques would be out dated already. i mean, nobody uses transparency+OHP anymore, right? what's an OHP? google it! biggrin.gif.

i usually have the usual drawings on boards. i never print large scale dwgs, bcoz it's too expensive. so i did my A1 presentation drawings in coreldraw, then automatically chopped it up into A4 pieces, printed it piece by piece, and glue it all back together to make an A1. simple, cheap and u dont need to queue at the shop/printlab.

in addition to the drawings, i usually have a working model that explains specific parts of the design that couldnt be explained through drawings alone. i hardly ever do a full model. just a sectional model - a model that is sectioned so that u could see the interior as well. like a cut pie. only i dont do the part that has been cut out. remember, there's no point in doing a model if it has already been successfully conveyed in 3D drawings!

finally, the transparency+OHP part. this is my favorite. although during my time, MSpowerpoint is already a good application for presentation, slideshow and animation, i still prefer the traditional way. with OHP, i can scribble my work WHILE i'm presenting. and since it is a transparency, i could do layers and layers of transparency, and even attempt at a crude, old-school animation biggrin.gif. and it's fun!

QUOTE(fresh_ideas @ Aug 19 2008, 08:37 AM)
hi, I have a DWG file and I dun have autocad, so what else I can use to open a DWG file?


Added on August 19, 2008, 4:46 pmops i think i ask in the wrong section?
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u can use google sketchup, which is a free 3D design software that u can download off the internet. other softwares can still open dwg, but it aint free biggrin.gif. other cad based softwares like vectorworx, microstation etc could use dwg. coreldraw, illustrator or any vector based graphic design softwares should be able to open dwg files as well.
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anyone can tell me some example of deconstructivist architecture in asian countries?

i need this information urgently,thanks.
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to be honest, i dont know much about philip johnson, other than he is part of the later modern movement (50s-60s). however, i did stumble upon a book that covers most of his works, but i cant remember exactly what it's called. i did browse through and it was quite thorough. more importantly, it describes his intentions in his designs, his process and approach as well. i think it's called "philip johnson's life work" (?) or something. try and google it.


Alright, I would check out the book.

Currently, I am working on the research proposal; do you know of any good internet resource that give a good explanation of Philip Johnson's International Style?

In addition, other than Wikipedia.org, are there any other online Encyclopedias?

I would really appreciate your help.
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mm im also having some problem with my research paper ... anyone could help me with that .. im currently doing robert venturi theories .. and i wan to know how it affects the asian countries any recommend ?
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Aug 19 2008, 05:08 PM)
i guess my presentation techniques would be out dated already. i mean, nobody uses transparency+OHP anymore, right? what's an OHP? google it! biggrin.gif.

i usually have the usual drawings on boards. i never print large scale dwgs, bcoz it's too expensive. so i did my A1 presentation drawings in coreldraw, then automatically chopped it up into A4 pieces, printed it piece by piece, and glue it all back together to make an A1. simple, cheap and u dont need to queue at the shop/printlab.

in addition to the drawings, i usually have a working model that explains specific parts of the design that couldnt be explained through drawings alone. i hardly ever do a full model. just a sectional model - a model that is sectioned so that u could see the interior as well. like a cut pie. only i dont do the part that has been cut out. remember, there's no point in doing a model if it has already been successfully conveyed in 3D drawings!

finally, the transparency+OHP part. this is my favorite. although during my time, MSpowerpoint is already a good application for presentation, slideshow and animation, i still prefer the traditional way. with OHP, i can scribble my work WHILE i'm presenting. and since it is a transparency, i could do layers and layers of transparency, and even attempt at a crude, old-school animation biggrin.gif. and it's fun!
lol..i know what OHP is..i still use that way sometimes for my presentation..

hmm..i have to agree that printing is expensive..its very expensive here in perak compared to KL lah..*sigh..i never had my presentation printed..hehehe..

how bout presentation manually ? normally i'd do it on coloured A1 mounting board..or watercolour paper..or craft board..or xerox paper..with oil pastel, watercolour, marker(which i kinda suck at), white/silver marker, colour pen and colour pencil..lols..but its getting pretty boring..any other medium that you used for your presentation..? any other suggestions ?

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QUOTE(Benjamin911 @ Aug 19 2008, 02:52 PM)
Alright, I would check out the book.

Currently, I am working on the research proposal; do you know of any good internet resource that give a good explanation of Philip Johnson's International Style?

In addition, other than Wikipedia.org, are there any other online Encyclopedias?

I would really appreciate your help.
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QUOTE(vestig3 @ Aug 19 2008, 03:46 PM)
mm im also having some problem with my research paper ... anyone could help me with that .. im currently doing robert venturi theories .. and i wan to know how it affects the asian countries any recommend ?
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my suggestion to both of u is to get urself registered in www.tanggam.com. there are people who are well versed in those theories more than i am. truthfully, my strong point is in educational theories, development of a designer and the design process itself.

QUOTE(arcanawar @ Aug 20 2008, 07:04 AM)
lol..i know what OHP is..i still use that way sometimes for my presentation..

hmm..i have to agree that printing is expensive..its very expensive here in perak compared to KL lah..*sigh..i never had my presentation printed..hehehe..

how bout presentation manually ? normally i'd do it on coloured A1 mounting board..or watercolour paper..or craft board..or xerox paper..with oil pastel, watercolour, marker(which i kinda suck at), white/silver marker, colour pen and colour pencil..lols..but its getting pretty boring..any other medium that you used for your presentation..? any other suggestions ?

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i've not done full manual presentations in a long time. but i did explore almost all kinds of manual presentations before settling down with manual+digital combination.

drawing on mounting board is the most tedious process ever. reason: u cant erase especially when u're using ink. meaning u cant afford to make mistakes. also, u cant compose ur drawings post production. every have to be done before u even start doing the drawings. hence i avoided that kind of presentation. i'm a fast drawing, but even so, i dont like to waste my time doing the presentation drawings. i prefer to spend more time designing and playing games tongue.gif.

i tried markers but too expensive for me. pastels and pencils are just too slow for me.

i've also tried plastik lapik meja. u know, the large one usually used on dining tables? it's filthy cheap. the only problem is u need to find suitable inks that would stick on it permanently. the drawing is inverted, so that u present the back side of it. lecturers are welcomed to scribble using non-permanent markers so u could just rub it off later on. the best part, u can use it as lapik meja after u've submitted biggrin.gif. cool table art!

my preferred manual method is ink on tracing combined with computer composition. then using markers i highlight or cast shadows on the back side of the tracing paper. this will give a diffused look from the front. then back it all with white mounting board to get the best effect.


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finally! its me again tongue.gif

Kay,im in my 1st sem ,final year.Well,if my results are good*wish for good results wish.gif * i was thinking of going abroad.Of course,money is one of the issues here.

I have 3 places in mind.NZ,Aussie and UK.

I was considering Oxford Brooke,UK but a fren told me the admission there for Malaysian students are limited.I have to go for interviews,etc.
I have a few more Universities in my list:
Melbourne
Adelaide

Sheffield

University of Auckland

Anyone studying at any of these universities can enlighten me with the admission requirements and the fees.
Plus,i need to know the procedures to apply and study abroad.Do i need to take any exams first?How do i send my portfolios?Do i send it thru the Uni im currently studying or i should do it by myself??? hmm.gif
thanks !!!


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QUOTE(silencio87 @ Aug 20 2008, 01:29 PM)
finally! its me again tongue.gif

Kay,im in my 1st sem ,final year.Well,if my results are good*wish for good results wish.gif * i was thinking of going abroad.Of course,money is one of the issues here.

I have 3 places in mind.NZ,Aussie and UK.

I was considering Oxford Brooke,UK but  a fren told me the admission there for Malaysian students are limited.I have to go for interviews,etc.


i'm not aware that OB has a limit for malaysian students. i think that's absurd. they even have discounts for family/siblings of international students/ex-students that want to study there.

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I have a few more Universities in my list:
Melbourne
Adelaide

Sheffield

University of Auckland

Anyone studying at any of these universities can enlighten me with the admission requirements and the fees.
Plus,i need to know the procedures to apply and study abroad.Do i need to take any exams first?How do i send my portfolios?Do i send it thru the Uni im currently studying or i should do it by myself??? hmm.gif
thanks !!!
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not too sure about aussie or NZ, buat for admissions to UK school, everything will go through UCAS. they will explain in detail what u have to do to apply. usually they'll conduct interviews, and some may interview by proxy (meaning they'll send representatives to malaysia to interview candidates). even if u cant attend the interview, u can send ur portfolio. they'll instruct specifically where to send it. everything by UCAS.
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can anybody link to a website that show some example of student's architectural work ie:presentation board, rendering, perspective
coz i need some guideline here....
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my suggestion to both of u is to get urself registered in www.tanggam.com. there are people who are well versed in those theories more than i am. truthfully, my strong point is in educational theories, development of a designer and the design process itself.


Thanks for the website, I would join it when I have the time.

I have found all the information that I wanted earlier.

The International Style is very interesting, to say the least.

I am inspired to write about it in the research report.

One of these days, I shall become the pioneer of The International Style in the country of Malaysia! biggrin.gif

Hopefully, I can inspire and influence minds with The International Style to develop the Style.

Do you have any suggestions on the good questions that I can ask about The International Style?

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