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Art & Design So you're interested in ARCHITECTURE? Version 2, A guide to becoming an Architect.

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post Mar 30 2008, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 30 2008, 05:48 AM)
doing an accredited degree kills two birds in one throw - u accumulate knowledge and skill + getting the license. doing an unaccredited degree only awards u with the knowledge and skills, but u'd have to get the license independently.
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Thanks for the info.How do i get the license after i've competed my diploma ?I am most probably taking up the course at a non-accredited school.Any advice ?

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QUOTE(aprisis @ Mar 30 2008, 11:02 PM)
when architects design a building, must it be detailed? or will a simple sketching with angles, scale, etc do? i mean, must the blueprint consists of everything like, "will the building withstand the wind force..etc"?
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When the Architect design a building, it will definitely have to be very detailed, because no one else is going to, or will be having the knowledge to, design the building. (The closest, the Civil Engineer, will not know how to design the floor plans and the layouts of the buildings for example, which the Architect can do; the Civil Engineer will be doing his part.)

I read that the Architect will also have to bring into consideration the natural wind flow and the natural ambient/lighting/intensity/illumination of the building as well.

Will the building withstand the wind force?

Let me see, aren't Architects suppose to test out their designs in the wind tunnel as well? (As for the real thing, I guess the Civil/Structural Engineers have to make sure that the building can stand.) biggrin.gif

The Architect design a nice/beautiful/pleasing and functional building that serves it's purpose, intent, function, and the client's needs/desires.

The Civil/Structural Engineers make sure that the building which the Architect have designed can stand on it's own and hold itself together - forever; to serve it's function, purpose and intent, and for the people to admire and appreciate...smile.gif

But;

RM 10 per entry (per person) please. brows.gif

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QUOTE(aprisis @ Mar 30 2008, 03:02 PM)
when architects design a building, must it be detailed? or will a simple sketching with angles, scale, etc do? i mean, must the blueprint consists of everything like, "will the building withstand the wind force..etc"?
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detailed. very detailed and preferably everything. refer to the section drawing below:

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this is just one portion of a technical drawing that architects produce on a daily basis. u can see that the architect will not only design the building, but specifies what material, dimensions, colour and other properties on every single part of the building.

QUOTE(Benjamin911 @ Mar 30 2008, 03:12 PM)
Sorry, I am confused. cry.gif

For a building to be build, what will be the required professionals other than the ones listed below (?);

The Architect. (Design the building, the floor plans and the layouts etc...)

The Quantity Surveyor. (Determine the cost of the building and materials.)

The Construction Manager. (Supervise/manage everyone in the Construction team.)

The Craftsman (Workers). [Build the building, fix up the steel beams and install the glass sheets accordingly; screwing them into place etc...]

The Civil Engineer. (Make sure the structurer integrity of the building is intact, and that the sewage system of the building is functioning the way it should be, and etc...as such...)

The Electrical & Electronic Engineer. (Make sure the E&E systems of the building is functioning.)

The Interior Designer. (Furnish the interior of the buildings.)

Any idea about the rest, and the roles that they play in a building project?

Thanks a lot in advance.
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landscape architects - design landscapes and the surroundings
town planner - involves when the design involves large scale planning that includes roads/traffic planning and multiple land properties.
who else u wanna know about?

QUOTE(destroyer @ Mar 30 2008, 03:18 PM)
heh. just fill up the polytechnic application form. i choose architecture as my first choice.

is it important for diploma student to get a laptop? because i'm thinking of only buying laptop when doing my degree. i've read the 1st post and it is recommended for architecture student to have a laptop. juz that do diploma student use much of a laptop?
just wanna tell. i'm one of the contestant for last year national bridge competition in UTM. yeah, me n my team enter the competition. is it categorized more into architecture or civil engineering?
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well, it depends on the syllabus. certain diploma courses may depend on computers more than others. i'm not that familiar with poly syllabus.

the bridge competition is both architecture AND civil engineering.


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QUOTE(Erozx` @ Mar 30 2008, 03:45 PM)
Thanks for the info.How do i get the license after i've competed my diploma ?I am most probably taking up the course at a non-accredited school.Any advice ?
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u need to acquire a part 1 equivalent degree to qualify to take the exam. diploma is below the part 1 equivalent, so u cant sit for the exam directly. u still could though, but u need about 5 years experience just to qualify.

my advice - go for unaccredited degree, not diploma. or atleast plan for a degree straight after diploma.

QUOTE(Benjamin911 @ Mar 30 2008, 03:56 PM)

Let me see, aren't Architects suppose to test out their designs in the wind tunnel as well? (As for the real thing, I guess the Civil/Structural Engineers have to make sure that the building can stand.) biggrin.gif
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wind tunnels is to check the cross-ventilation in the interior through fenestrations. we dont test buildings to withstand wind shears. civil engineers do that. architects dont wink.gif.

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is that a design of a wall?
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QUOTE(aprisis @ Mar 30 2008, 04:29 PM)
@azarimy

is that a design of a wall?
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yes, it's a design of a wall. specifically, a cavity wall that is common in 4 seasoned countries. it is a two layered wall with a gap in between for insulation. in malaysia we use single layer walls, but the detailing on the connections at the windows, doors, roof etc are still the same.
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Gosh, I am learning so much just by sharing what I know! blink.gif shocking.gif

Anyway, the time have come for me to start listening & learn. biggrin.gif

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I'm quite confused.lets say after i've obtained the melbourne degree for part 1 ,i mean since it's accredicted by LAM, issit necessary to take the LAM part 1 exams ?
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QUOTE(Erozx` @ Mar 30 2008, 05:35 PM)
I'm quite confused.lets say after i've obtained the melbourne degree for part 1 ,i mean since it's accredicted by LAM, issit necessary to take the LAM part 1 exams ?
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melbourne degree, or any overseas degrees, are NOT accredited by LAM. it is accredited by the regulating board of each country - UK = RIBA, australia = RAIA and so on. but bcoz commonwealth countries follow RIBA system, then the examination is considered "equal" to each counterpart. what this means is that, if u take RAIA part 1, it is considered equivalent to LAM part 1. but this does not mean u automatically get LAM accreditation. u still need to sit for the LAM exam as a final verification of ur abilities.

the reason for this is that, LAM has no way to check whether an architect graduated through the proper ways or some illegal/obscure/cheating ways at ana overseas university. so what they do is to require all overseas graduate to sit for the LAM exams. the exams are divided into 3 sections. if u've really gone through the proper ways, sections 1 and 2 should be very easy, and u can skip section 3 altogether. those who did not follow the proper syllabus will have some problem at sections 1 and 2, and would have to sit for section 3.
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Thanks a lot.I have a clear-cut on things now .Btw ,if i have obtained a non-part 1 diploma in ALFA college ,does this mean i can straightaway pursue for a fully accredited degree that carries part 2 in the overseas ?Well the process only takes 5 years , just wanna make sure smile.gif

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QUOTE(Erozx` @ Mar 30 2008, 08:55 PM)
Thanks a lot.I have a clear-cut on things now .Btw ,if i have obtained a  non-part 1 diploma in ALFA college ,does this mean i can straightaway pursue    for a fully accredited degree that carries part 2 in the overseas ?Well the process only takes 5 years , just wanna make sure smile.gif
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no, u will need a part 1 before a part 2, anywhere in the world.

if u somehow obtained a part 2 five years after SPM/O-levels, LAM will not recognize u. the requirement is clearly stated: it's either 5 years after STPM/matrics/A-levels or 6 years after SPM/O-levels. any shorter way, LAM will assume that u've cheated ur way through.
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btw, if i finish my diploma in polytechnic, then i applied for degree in UTM. but during the process, i've been rejected from being enrolled into UTM. Can i apply again for the next year or i've to wait.

heh, i want to continue my study fast because i'm afraid i'll lose the knowledge that i've learn during my diploma if i'm about to work.
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excuse me, i've been told that for architecture course, we'll be interviewed. usually what do they ask in the intervieW?
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to WinnieH.

read the 2nd post on the first page. search for (1.6. Applying to a school of architecture) . hope it helps.

azarimy have written something about the interview.
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QUOTE(destroyer @ Mar 31 2008, 01:13 AM)
btw, if i finish my diploma in polytechnic, then i applied for degree in UTM. but during the process, i've been rejected from being enrolled into UTM. Can i apply again for the next year or i've to wait.

heh, i want to continue my study fast because i'm afraid i'll lose the knowledge that i've learn during my diploma if i'm about to work.
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u can apply again and again for as many times u want/are willing. we also dont have an age requirement, and we've had a 35 year old guy doing his degree during my time, so it doesnt really matter. remember, rejection doesnt always mean u dont qualify. it usually means there are more people better qualified that u are, and the number of places available are not big enough to include u. earning more working experience boosts ur chances, so ur chance of getting a place is always better the next year round.

u'll hardly loose any knowledge if u work, bcoz architecture is a well rounded, applied and practical knowledge+skills. meaning, u will never stop learning during practice, and learning is life long process in architecture. it may be hard to comprehend now, but u'll understand what i mean later on. it's a skill that needs to be practiced, like chess, where the more u play, the better u become. and the knowledge can never be enough.

there may be those who tells u that they have enough skills and knowledge that they can stop learning architecture. honestly, i believe this is a complete bull and the persons are too naive.

QUOTE(WinnieH @ Mar 31 2008, 03:00 AM)
excuse me, i've been told that for architecture course, we'll be interviewed. usually what do they ask in the intervieW?
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i've included the interview format in the first page. refer to the FAQ.
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izit possible to further my studies in NZ instead of UK/ Aus? do i get the same results?
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After i've finished my taylors non-part 1 and part 1 programme in melbourne and have completed the LAM part 1 exams , do i have to continue for my part 2 degree in government based university ?i mean thats written down in your academic route.
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I see. btw, i'd like to ask.

is it easy to score more than 3.5 CGPA for architecture diploma?

and, if i've failed to get 3.5 for my diploma, where should i continue study beside? do UM is hard to enter as UTM? for example, if i got CGPA 3.4 for my diploma, but i've 2years working experience. will my application be considered?
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QUOTE(aprisis @ Mar 31 2008, 11:20 AM)
izit possible to further my studies in NZ instead of UK/ Aus? do i get the same results?
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same results with what? from where? i dont get what u mean.

QUOTE(Erozx` @ Mar 31 2008, 11:30 AM)
After i've finished my taylors non-part 1 and part 1 programme in melbourne and have completed the LAM part 1 exams , do i have to continue for my part 2 degree in government based university ?i mean thats written down in your academic route.
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it depends on what u wanna do. apart from the option u've mentioned, u could come back after finishing melbourne's part 1 and sit for LAM part 1, or u could continue to any non-LAM part 2 universities (RAIA or RIBA), and then come back to sit for ur LAM part 1 and 2. whichever's easier for u.

QUOTE(destroyer @ Mar 31 2008, 11:40 AM)
I see. btw, i'd like to ask.

is it easy to score more than 3.5 CGPA for architecture diploma?

and, if i've failed to get 3.5 for my diploma, where should i continue study beside? do UM is hard to enter as UTM? for example, if i got CGPA 3.4 for my diploma, but i've 2years working experience. will my application be considered?
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i cant say if it's easy. if u can score 10As in SPM, i'm pretty sure it's very easy to get 4.00cgpa tongue.gif

UM is harder to enter because of their small number of students. UM is now what... 40-50 students per batch? compared to UTM which currently running at 100 students per batch. so based on the total number of students per year, u can see how much students from diploma they're willing to take. it's usually between 5-10% of the total.
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^ i mean izit same as studying in UK/Aus?
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So, if i can't continue my study in local IPTA, is there any chances for me to continue my degree at a affordable cost?

i only get 5a for spm. heh, but i think i can cope with architecture because it doesn't involve extreme math. i think i can do it.

btw, your talking about the polytechnic students in your past post always keep my spirit burning. In fact, i'm reading it everyday to keep my spirit and passion towards architecture rising. heh. it's just like me gaining a new hope to continue my study in architecture.

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