Full fledge? Eat lots of junkies every night that you are up. Sure you'll be full fledge soon Anyway, to be a master architect (another definition of full fledge), you need to excel in your field of specialization and be able to design anything ranging from furniture to follies, bridges to airports, renovating heritage buildings to introducing new ones to complement the heritage buildings...not an easy job.

Erm....i'm kinda new here..... mind to let me know whether UIA AED foundation that is offer in UPU has an interview 1st b4 entering it?

and can u explain me more details bout the portfolio? 1 more thing.....

my spm result was 2a1=english,modmath 2a2=agama islam,addmath 3b3=b.melayu,sejarah,physics 2b4=biology,sport sc.

so am i qualified enuff for UIA AED foundation?

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ill make this clear n short

i applied UCAS n got this conditional offers for undergraduate studies (architecture):

-->>UNI OF PLYMOUTH<<--
-->>UNI OF PORTSMOUTH<--

duration: 3 years
tuition fees: 8,750 pounds
course start: 22sept 08


i am really,badly in need of financial support! sweat.gif u know how expensive studying in uk will be...
but that will not stop me cz im very determine to study there!

i got 6A in spm (yeah..i wish i could get better..huuu) n will finish my foundation in architecture at Center Of Foundation Studies of IIUM (CFS IIUM) in june..but i already finish all my core course.
my personal estimation is to get 3.4-3.5 cgpa.


really hope u guys reading this could help me. rolleyes.gif
ive been browsing for days searching scholarships (if i cant get one, i should probably need to get a loan instead whistling.gif ) but there's prob like:

-only for LOCAL UNI
-ARCHITECTURE course is EXCLUDED
-not QUALIFIED (like for sime darby n Yayasan Khazanah Global Scholarship)
-wont sponsor for students GOING TO UK (yes..mara n jpa)
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ok, so after i graduate, i'm a part 2 architect, another 2 years of work experience i'm into part 3 already?

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Added on March 29, 2008, 6:21 pmfrom the chart there isnt part 3. so i assume everyone automatically upgrades to part 3 after 2 years?

This post has been edited by aprisis: Mar 29 2008, 06:21 PM

u need to check with UIA's foundation requirement. i'm only familiar with intakes AFTER pre-university levels.

refer to the FAQs (in page 1) for details on the portfolio.

i'm not sure how i could help here. i'm not very familiar with fundings.

the chart stops at part 2 bcoz that's where ur formal education in architecture stops. this section is called the education essentials, hence i just summarized it in one paragraph. there's only one way to get part 3, that is via part 2, practice for about 2 years and fill the logbook, and sit for the part 3 exam. it's not automatic, and the exam could be too hard for some, which is why we only have about 1600 part 3 architects in malaysia right now, despite producing roughly 500 part 2 architects per year.

In Architecture, there are two (2) degrees; the Part 1 Degree and the Part 2 Degree.

If you start your Architecture education today, you will be starting straightaway at the Part 1 Degree if you have any Pre-U (A-Levels, HSC, etc...) or the Foundation of the Part 1 Degree program. (The Foundation need to be the Foundation of that Particular Part 1 Degree program.) In addition, you can also take a Diploma in Architecture and then continue into the second (2nd) year of the Part 1 Degree program. Unlike the Foundation, which only applies to it's Part 1 Degree program, the Diploma can be used to apply to any of the Part 1 Degree programs around the World! (However, bear in mind that taking the Diploma route is longer, but it will give you a more solid grounding of Architecture.)

Finally, after you have finished your Part 1 Degree program, you can either choose to work for a while, or continue to the Part 2 Degree program to finish off your Architecture studies. For your Part 2 Degree, you will have the option to continue it locally, or continue it overseas.

According to Azarimy;

BTW, I did not know that some of Taylor's partnership Universities are having two (2) Accreditations!

From the list:

Robert Gordon University, Scotland.

University of Strathclyde, Scotland.

University of Portsmouth, England.

Deakin University.

The University of Melbourne, Australia.

University of Newcastle.

The University of New South Wales.

WTH??? Even Curtin University of Technology is accredited by LAM - PAM??? (That is LIMKOKWING's partnership university lol! )

This is a surprise to me! (Azarimy, are you sure that the University of Melbourne is also accredited by LAM - PAM??? ) Why haven't I known this before??!!

To continue from where I left just now;

When you finish your Part 2 Degree, you are finally known as the real Architect; the one who can practice Architecture! (The MASTER BUILDER!)

You will have the option to register with the Board of Architects Malaysia to become a Chartered (Professional) Part 3 Architect. After registering as a Part 3 Architect, you will have to work for a minimum of two (2) years and fulfill the requirements, and then finally sit for the Part 3 exam in order to qualify as a Part 3 (Chartered/Professional) Architect.

This post has been edited by Benjamin911: Mar 29 2008, 07:36 PM

hello. i would like to ask something.
i would like to apply diploma seni bina for politeknik. So, i would like to ask students or lecturer in architecture. I would lyke to ask you have you meet any student from politeknik diploma? how do they perform? because i heard thet politeknik student don't perform well in their degree. how bout politeknik students for architecture?

Edited: any other experienced stuedent or lecturer can give their opinion?

This post has been edited by destroyer: Mar 29 2008, 07:38 PM

where did i say melb or curtin is accredited by LAM/PAM? no they are not.



i would refrain from using the term "master builder". master builder is a term reserved from super architects who not only have built prestigious designs, but more importantly, have significantly contributed to the architectural world and influenced other architects. holding a part 3 with the title AR infront of ur name does not allow u to call urself a master builder. especially dont simply use the term infront of other architects/lecturers, coz u'll become the laughing stock of the community .

haih... no.

first, after graduating with a part 2, u will register urself with LAM as a part 2 architect. this will start ur journey to fill in the log book by practicing for 2 years and fulfill the requirements. at the end of the day, the committee will review ur logbook. and if they're satisfied, u will be able to sit for the exam. once passed, u will register urself as a part 3 architect.

u dont register as part 3 to take the part 3 exam. the term registration assumes u've already achieved all the requirements.

i've had a lot of experience with poly students, both from diploma and certificate. if anything u can say about them, not performing well is not one of them. remember that architecture is more of a hands on learning, where u will spend more time doing than reading. this is something the poly students are damn good at: DOING. with rigorous trainings in poly, they have a firm technical foundations with drawing skills that most straight to degree students could ever dream of.

ofcourse, those i've experienced are top poly students who got selected into UTM. it means i have not met anybody from the lower end of the food chain. regardless, the poly students that i've met have extremely good drawing skills. when most mainstream students would spend time trying to draw their ideas for the entire night, the polys just stream through their ideas at 10 A3s per hour. when they're good, they're THAT good.

i think the 'bad perception' about poly students starts off from the low SPM intake. people always say if u cant qualify for a degree or diploma, go poly. this ends up with people saying polys are only a place for those who didnt score SPM. in actual fact, it's not. poly is a higher level of vocational training. it's totally different from mainstream academic. architecture itself is totally different from mainstream academic, hence why poly students fare pretty well in it.

i cant say the same for other courses though.

Then what is this >>>



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This post has been edited by Benjamin911: Mar 29 2008, 08:41 PM

Tanx a lot azarimy. heh. at first i want to enroll into their aircraft maintainence programme. now you burn my spirit up. i think i'll apply for architecture diploma in politeknik. since i do not have good drawing skills, enrolling into politeknik maybe can help improve my skills.

although it may take longer to achieve part 2, but i dun care much about it. i'm more concern on how will i perform during work.

tanx a lot azarimy. i really appreciate your help.

btw, do i need to attend interview for architecture course in politeknik?


btw, tanx a lot azarimy. i was almost give up on architecture because i am not very good in my basic art. but your talking really burn my spirit.

This post has been edited by destroyer: Mar 29 2008, 08:23 PM

Then what is this from Architecture Malaysia (am) >>>



And >>>



From Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architecture

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Added on March 29, 2008, 8:37 pm

OK, thanks a lot for clarifying this part.

This post has been edited by Benjamin911: Mar 29 2008, 08:38 PM

btw, is it easy to enter degree in UTM if i'm using my polytechnic diploma? is there any discrimination towards poly students in U?

how much polytechnic diploma pointer do i need to enter UTM architectural degree? do i still need to attend interview for degree?

btw, do architectural diploma in polytechnic require me to go through interview?

u see, u're reading, but u're not understanding the context of the word. the word architect is derived from the meaning master builder. architects call themselves architects. in the architecture community, master builder is a high ranking architect, not just any. it's someone who is respected in the industry who have contributed alot of things. some master builders in malaysia would be ken yeang or hijjaz kasturi. but u dont call someone who just graduated and designed a bungalow a master builder. get what i mean?

if an architect is a master builder, then how does interior architect, landscape architect or computer systems architect come into context? do they really "build", or more towards designing? do they actually build anything? this is what we call context. one word could mean a lot of things, we call it semantics. u'll see alot of this later on.

easy? like i said, u need top grades. UTM treats all diploma as the same, intakes will go straight into 2nd year. poly dip will compete with other dip holders from UTM dip school, IPTS and other institutions that awards architectural diplomas.

u will need at least 3.50 to stand a chance, preferrably with 1 or 2 years experience, and u will still need to attend the interview.

so that's mean after i get my diploma, i have to get a working experience for entering UTM degree?



does this apply only to poli student or to all diploma holder who is trying to apply for architecture degree? sorry for asking a lot of question?

after diploma, it is always recommended that u get some working experience first. it's not a requirement, but UTM only offers 8-12 places for diploma students per year, and we have applications averaging between 50-80 per year. so competitions are fierce. u need all the bonus stuff u can get to boost ur chances.

it applies to all diploma, including UTM's own diploma students.

owh. i see. tanx azarimy.

normally, diploma grads will go for draughtman position or architect assistant?

either one or both. most firms in malaysia dont really differentiate between them. with experience a diploma holder can become an architect assistant. one of architect assistant's job description is draughtmanship . so either way, u'll do both.

btw azarimy, do we need to attend interview for architect diploma in politeknik?

yeah. btw, i really thank you very much for helping me. you help me a lot.

i've came across an article somewhere in newspaper that architecture grads all manage to get job. it is the same level as doctor. 100% grads manage to get job.

i dont know. check with polytechnic' intake requirements.


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all right, i'll give them a call this Monday.

Btw, from ur experience, do u remember mostly, the polytechnic student studying in UTM for degree come from which poly?

just asking. tanx in advance