i dunno their names since i listened only partially. but i was sure i heard, "if employers see 2 applications, 1 with EL and another 1 without, the 1 with EL will be put in a category and will be considered 1st. that moment i was like, omgwtfbbq?

Based on some articles that I have read before, that is true actually.

The Arts definitely have a play in Architecture, be it Music (Different Genres), Humanity, English Literature, Religion, History, Culture, or even Psychology.

In addition to the above (Based on different Articles that I have read), it was also stated that Architecture also have its interest in the Sciences, Astronomy, Physics, Mathematics, Engineering, Innovations, Inventions and Technology.

In fact, a book that I read states;

Architects have a high degree of interest in designing and creating solutions to problems that involve both Engineering and Artistic principles. The Architect is interested in improving the buildings in which we live so that they are in keeping with the needs of today. Consequently, he is very observant of the problems around him - Social as well as Technical. He has an Appreciation for beauty and can see beauty in a well - Engineered Project.

The Architect must have the Engineer's ability to communicate graphically, orally, and in writing, but he will probably have greater Artistic Aptitude than the Engineer. His profession will require that he develop many drawings and pictorials that must be clearly understood, not only by people within the industrial field, but also by the client, who may have little understanding of detailed working drawings. Therefore, the Architect uses perspectives and Artistic methods to transmit his ideas so that they can be understood, approved, and finally realized in buildings.

The Architect must understand the Technical aspects of Engineering well enough to know how to obtain help when it is needed. A typical project requires him to be a coordinator of many Technical Fields. It is virtually impossible for him to be proficient in all the relevant fields, such as structures, air conditioning, heating, and landscaping; consequently, he must use consultants on large projects.

The Architect should have aptitude in Mathematics, Graphics, English, Social Topics, Physics, and Art. His need for Chemistry is less than that of the Engineer.

College training for the Architect is a five-year program with design emphasized throughout the entire period. He will take basic courses in Mathematics, Graphics, Materials, Physics, Engineering Mechanics, History, Structures, Environment Studies, City Planning, Mechanical & Electrical Equipment, and Landscaping. During each year of his college training, he will work on realistic design problems that will prepare him for entry into his profession.

Many Architects carry double majors whereby they obtain an Engineering Degree or a Business Administration Degree in addition to Architecture. The Master's Degree is being taken by more Architects now than in the past. However, the Master's Degree is less important for the Architect than for the Engineer.

Does the Part 1 exam has grades? If i passed it and have a bachelor degree, is my chances of going to NUS for MArch still tough?

Do not worry. Relax, things are looking very good for Diploma in Architecture students who are studying in Taylors School of Architecture & Building Design.

Firstly, we will all be having the choice of the following universities after our Diploma in Architectural Technology; Universities that will be accepting us with a minimum cumulative average (achiever) of 60% only!!! That is too good to be true, and we (Diploma in Architecture) will also be going straight to the "Final" (3rd) year of their Part 1 Degree program.

You know, in the Malaysian Government Universities, you will only be allowed to enter into the 2nd year of their Part 1 Degree Program at the very best of your luck (I do not think that they would even accept you with a 60% cumulative average; you will need to be much better than that).

In addition, the Malaysian Government Universities can also just reject you, seeing that you are from a private university.

On the other hand, those oversea universities listed out below will be ever willing to accept you at a 60% cumulative average and give you a place in the final year of their Part 1 Degree; (These Universities also have their own Part 2 Architecture Degrees as listed in the parenthesizes.) 



Secondly, we, Taylor's Diploma in Architectural Technology today, will be having the chance to study in the new Taylor's Flagship State of the Art Lakeside University Campus upon its completion next year.

Thirdly, we will be having the option to remain back in Taylors by taking their Bachelor (Hons) of Science (Architecture), and then proceed to any of the universities listed up above straightaway into their Part 2 Degree!

just received offer for Taylor Bachelor 3yr Arch Degree this March intake but still pending if i should accept it and pay rm 58 k 
(plus oversea 2yrs to get B.Arch + spend over 200k)

[Note: Not yet accr. by PAM nor  LAM /JPA  (so cant get  PTPTN loan yet as no RUJ no.) .. just subject approved lo ]

OR

go to study in 'King Mongkut's University of Technology Thonburi' School of Architecture in thailand straight down 5YRs B.Arch. for rm60k only
(need SAT 1 pass/ TOEFL  or A-Level pass  plus Portfolio ..i can make it  )

Which path to choose.. i have very tight budget. . self supporting for next 5 yrs .
any comments recommendations..

LAM
Part I and II  Examination.. anyone know what kind of exam (interview, academic writing, or  ..?

is there actually much difference between ADP and the one offered in Taylor (not sure which)? from what my counselor told me ADP is only 4 years while the latter 1 is 6 years. She also said the syllabus are identical but a 2 years gap?

Yeah american degree program

i still dont get u. u're comparing which ADP with which course?

if u're talking in general, american architecture courses are very different and not widely accepted in malaysia. a close colleague of mine, a Phd already with an associate professor title, had to take the LAM part 1 and 2 exams bcoz his archtiecture degree from university of miami (one of the prestigious architecture schools in the UK) is not recognized in malaysia.

my point is, they are VERY different.

sorry sorry 

i had to wait for a friend of mine to confirm.

its ADP and Melbourne Degree Programme. do u know anything about them?

not very detail, but i juz wanna know y the difference in years

there is few quality staff at king mongkut's university of technology
KMUTT SoAD with Phds from MIT.. and many awards ,few foreigners .. umm

how about taylor college..

Based on what I was told, the minimum qualification of the lecturers in the School of Architecture & Building Design is a Masters Degree, and that all of them are having good English proficiency. (Based from my observations so far, the lecturers were capable of giving good lectures, and they were also fluent in English.)

The "Standard" is clearly there, at Taylors. (BTW, if their Architecture course is being moderated by the University of Melbourne, then it would definitely need to be having the standard.)

Recently, there was a famous Architect who came to share his works with all of us, his works was great to say the least. (I really cannot describe how fantastic the works are, you will need to see it to know how awesome it is.)

which as compared to IPTAs, where the minimum qualification for a lecturer is a PhD.

by the way, taylor's use melbourne's curriculum, hence why it is being moderated by melbourne. a good school would be able to moderate themselves rather than having another school tell them which should pass, and which shouldnt. what it basically says is that "taylor's, u may use our curriculum and teach however u want, but we have the final say of what happens to the student".

u shouldnt confuse between moderation and external examination. external examination determines the standard between schools, where independent experts  gather in ur school and assess the school's standards.

Review of Student Work:

Student work completed during the semester that has been reviewed by Taylor's
School of Architecture · Building · Design lecturers will be retrieved and presented at a
scheduled time to moderators from the Faculty of Architecture, Building and Planning
of The University of Melbourne (for the Diploma in Architectural Technology, Diploma
in Quantity Surveying and Diploma in Construction Management) and the Faculty of
Built Environment and Engineering of Queensland University of Technology (for the
Diploma in Interior Design).

THE UNIVERSITY OF MELBOURNE
FACULTY OF ARCHITECTURE, BUILDING AND PLANNING:

Internationally recognised for its high standards in teaching, learning and research, the
University of Melbourne is one of Australia's largest universities with over 37,000
undergraduate and postgraduate students enrolled in teaching and research
programmes supported by over 5,000 staff. With 150 years of excellence, it is ranked
as Australia's top university in the Times Higher Education Guide 2005, and was
awarded the Australian University of the Year 2001-2002.
The University of Melbourne introduced architecture studies in the 1860s, with the first
full time course in 1927. The Faculty of Architecture, Building and Planning has an
outstanding reputation for educating top-class professionals in the wide range of
disciplines involved in the planning, design, production and management of the built
and natural environment. As a partner university, the role of The University of
Melbourne is to provide moderation and quality assurance of the Architectural
Technology, Quantity Surveying and Construction Management programmes, through
the Faculty of Architecture, Building and Planning.

If Taylor's Architecture program is being moderated by the University of Melbourne, then they would definitely need to be having the standard.

That was my point.

I am glad to know that Taylor's Architecture program is moderated by the University of Melbourne. (Considering that the University of Melbourne is a top Architecture school.)

When I was enrolling into the Architecture program at Taylors, the admission officer had to inquire with the University of Melbourne on whether I could be accepted into the Architecture program or not. (The Melbourne U had to screen through my high school accomplishments and results.)

If Taylor's program is moderated by the University of Melbourne, then Taylors need to live up to the standard. 

[I cannot imagine Taylor's students graduating from a below par program, and then getting twinned to the University of Melbourne at a 60% cumulative average...] Taylors have to be good for the University of Melbourne to be able to accept their students at a 60% cumulative average.

It is not just the University of Melbourne that will be the only one accepting Taylor's students at a 60% cumulative average, but the following list of Universities will too >>>

Regarding the lecturers, a Masters Degree should already be adequate for the Diploma program, and for the Part 1 Degree progrm as well.

Why waste more $$$$ to employ PHD holders to lecture subjects that could be taught just as well by Masters Degree holders??? (Do you need to pay an Automotive Engineer to become your car mechanic, when a car mechanic, for less $$$$, could do the job for you just as well at this level???)

@azarimy

let's say i do take up architecture, from ur view, which kind of course should i take?

sry if i'm bugging..coz i'm a form5 without much knowledge about these but dun wanna wait till spm is over to get knowing

oops..i thought there's different kind of them?

erm..ok..

how do i become a full fledged architect? is gaining work experience a must? or once i graduate i'm officially one?

it is very possible for someone to graduate below par from taylor's. they just dont get to further their studies in melbourne.

that's what most people think. in actual fact, a masters degree doesnt carry much weight in conducting academic programmes, as they are not the expert in the fields they're teaching. they are not qualified to review or change the syllabus, hence depraved from being a full academic. why waste more money to employ phd holders? bcoz they own the knowledge they're teaching. it's copyrighted to their name. u will learn first hand knowledge from the person who discovers it.

i wouldnt argue that there are good lecturers holding only a masters. i'll let to go through tertiery education first. u will realize ur perception will change, that masters is not much different from a degree, but a long-long way from a PhD. more over, holding a masters doesnt guarantee they can teach. remember, lecturers are NOT trained to teach. if u expect lecturers to teach, u're already way off in ur expectations wink.gif.

In February 2000, SBE students successfully transferred to The University of Melbourne
to pursue degree studies in Architecture and Quantity Surveying. This proved to be a
watershed in the development of the School that would have its effect to the present
day. The College's management instigated a plan to upgrade the quality of the built
environment programmes to respond to the government's call for world-class designs
for buildings and international standards of building and infrastructure management.
The School was also undergoing expansion and a new partnership was sought through
discussions with many universities around the world.

In 2001, The University of Melbourne, internationally recognised for its high standards
in teaching, learning and research, was unanimously selected to offer degree pathways
for Diploma graduates of SBE. A new programme named the Diploma in Building
Studies (Architectural Technology/Quantity Surveying) was developed by the staff of
SBE and an agreement was signed with the Dean of the Faculty of Architecture,
Building and Planning, to provide moderation and quality assurance services.