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post Feb 28 2008, 02:01 AM

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QUOTE(moderno @ Feb 27 2008, 07:43 PM)
ahaha...i know how u feel.... 5 - 10 minutes of hell waiting the progress bar till 100%  sweat.gif  tongue.gif
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I nearly fainted that day due to "exhaustion" while waiting my mobo to complete the Winflash sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

Imagine if TNB played trick on you shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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post Feb 28 2008, 02:58 AM

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QUOTE(moderno @ Feb 28 2008, 01:13 AM)
double posting mean that the system will power down 1st during booting...then restart again bro?

if yes i do face the same problem oso after flashing the bios to 24/12/07..
yes..the situation is like that...izzit normal?

i just use factory default bios now...nver flash anything yet..

i think this happen after i OC..b4 that just normal..and till now at OC state..

hmm...gonna try all setting at default and see would this double posting happen again.. hmm.gif


Added on February 28, 2008, 3:02 am
QUOTE(vearn27 @ Feb 28 2008, 02:01 AM)
I nearly fainted that day due to "exhaustion" while waiting my mobo to complete the Winflash sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

Imagine if TNB played trick on you shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
hmm... i wonder, why to flash(using winflash) the bios take a long time..? hmm.gif

should it be faster do the bios flashing not in windows mode? hmm.gif

This post has been edited by xen0: Feb 28 2008, 03:02 AM
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post Feb 28 2008, 09:44 AM

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erm yeah winflash jus atke few minutes oni..i think within2 or 3 minutes oredi done nod.gif
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post Feb 28 2008, 10:37 AM

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the latest BIOS is 24/12/07 aight? because just read here in previous page said that the latest is 13/02/08 hmm.gif
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post Feb 28 2008, 12:00 PM

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Hey guys, I think I just realize that we can actually undervolt the CPU on mobos that can't be set in BIOS...... silly of me not to think about that method.....

Will try it out later and let you guys know....

And another thing.... I can change the VID in core temp for my old rig! Will try it out later on my Q6600!!! brows.gif
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Feb 28 2008, 10:37 AM)
the latest BIOS is 24/12/07 aight? because just read here in previous page said that the latest is 13/02/08 hmm.gif
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the latest 1 is 13/2/08

http://us.dfi.com.tw/Support/Download/bios..._FLAG=B&SITE=US

if u use 24/12/07 can u upload for me...wanna try it..
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post Feb 28 2008, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Feb 28 2008, 12:00 PM)
Hey guys, I think I just realize that we can actually undervolt the CPU on mobos that can't be set in BIOS...... silly of me not to think about that method.....

Will try it out later and let you guys know....

And another thing.... I can change the VID in core temp for my old rig! Will try it out later on my Q6600!!!  brows.gif
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bro...u r like a R&D company or something la...so secretive one.. tongue.gif
anyway, do let us know once u finished with ur 'research' rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(remysix @ Feb 28 2008, 04:30 PM)
bro...u r like a R&D company or something la...so secretive one.. tongue.gif
anyway, do let us know once u finished with ur 'research' rclxms.gif
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No la, just now a bit busy ma.....

Anyway, the program is non other than "Rightmark CPU clock utility". I have used this in my AMD 64 3500+ rig last time and I totally forgot that you could a few cool things in windows:
1) Set your own multiplier e.g. like for the Q6600, you can set it to run at 6x and 7x multiplier only, or 6x and 9x only, or 7x and 8x only or solely on 9x only....
2) Set the vcore to anything within the CPU's range (that means you can undervolt or overvolt your CPU in windows, even for mobos that don't allow downclocking in BIOS brows.gif)
3) And surprise surprise.... VID in core temp or any program is no longer accurate as it can be changed!!! See pics below...

Important : But be careful as the Rightmark CPU clock utility is a powerful app. If you're not careful, you may accidentally overvolt your CPU to very high voltages!!!

My original Q6600 VID
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Instant noodle to 1.300v VID whistling.gif
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Hmmm..... want to increase my Q6600 - for sale.... VID at 1.2625v thumbup.gif
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This proc should be auctioned!!! brows.gif
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Note : Let me find my old guide on Rightmark CPU clock utility..... can't remember where it is.... hmm.gif

Ahhhh found it..... gives a basic understanding on how RMCC utility works : http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry11703415 (Post #118)

Again, be warned : RMCC is a useful and powerful program. Be careful when you use it. Make sure you understand the basic principles. Any damage is NOT MY FAULT!!! tongue.gif

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post Feb 28 2008, 07:10 PM

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i might try it with my e8400.
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@kmarc
so ur stock vcore will be 1.2375???so what others software and bios will detect ur stock vcore at 1.2375???
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QUOTE(tapirus @ Feb 28 2008, 07:13 PM)
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so ur stock vcore will be 1.2375???so what others software and bios will detect ur stock vcore at 1.2375???
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Errr.... don't understand the question. My actual VID is 1.3125v.....

The vcore changes in windows when you set it in RMCC. You can change the vcore to whatever you want in windows, no need to go to BIOS to change the vcore.... smile.gif
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Feb 28 2008, 07:26 PM)
Errr.... don't understand the question. My actual VID is 1.3125v.....

The vcore changes in windows when you set it in RMCC. You can change the vcore to whatever you want in windows, no need to go to BIOS to change the vcore....  smile.gif
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mmm..like this..after u set ur vid to certain amount...ur stock vid will became what u set or still like original stock vid...
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QUOTE(tapirus @ Feb 28 2008, 07:31 PM)
mmm..like this..after u set ur vid to certain amount...ur stock vid will became what u set or still like original stock vid...
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After setting the VID, any program will show the new VID in windows.

It doesn't change the actual VID. That means, I can't change my Q6600's VID from 1.3125v to 1.100v and run at stock 2.4GHz!!!

Ability to change the VID shows that we should be careful when buying CPUs just based on VID as people can change them in windows, if they know how.....
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Feb 28 2008, 07:51 PM)
After setting the VID, any program will show the new VID in windows.

It doesn't change the actual VID. That means, I can't change my Q6600's VID from 1.3125v to 1.100v and run at stock 2.4GHz!!!

Ability to change the VID shows that we should be careful when buying CPUs just based on VID as people can change them in windows, if they know how.....
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hmmm...i wonder what is the actual reading from vmm would that be after changing it...just curious whether it just change what is being reported by the sensor or it's really change the actual voltage... hmm.gif
but yeah, it is an interesting piece of apps

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Dunno.... I just use CPUz and smartguardian to check on the vcore..... don't want to suddenly get a high vcore setting!!
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what does this mean...i use 480 x7 with stock vcore..then i add more vcore to push more bus...cannot boot when i add more than 480 even add 50mv...means my mobo already hit their wall or not????
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QUOTE(tapirus @ Feb 29 2008, 01:15 PM)
what does this mean...i use 480 x7 with stock vcore..then i add more vcore to push more bus...cannot boot when i add more than 480 even add 50mv...means my mobo already hit their wall or not????
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try different fsb /vtt termination voltage.
adjust ure gtl's to be around the same as ure stock.

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QUOTE(tapirus @ Feb 29 2008, 01:15 PM)
what does this mean...i use 480 x7 with stock vcore..then i add more vcore to push more bus...cannot boot when i add more than 480 even add 50mv...means my mobo already hit their wall or not????
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Could be your CPU FSB wall too..... My previous E6750 also hit a wall at 480mhz FSB..... was lazy to find out whether it was mobo or CPU FSB wall.... doh.gif
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QUOTE(tapirus @ Feb 29 2008, 01:15 PM)
what does this mean...i use 480 x7 with stock vcore..then i add more vcore to push more bus...cannot boot when i add more than 480 even add 50mv...means my mobo already hit their wall or not????
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maybe hit the fsb wall, try other way eg. lower the fsb and rasie the multiplier, see your proc can run at the same equivalent to >480x7
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just realized.. bro jy14 got bulk for LANPARTY DK X38-T2R...

could be my next mobo end of this year rolleyes.gif


BTW, double posting, izzit normal??

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