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post Feb 2 2008, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Feb 2 2008, 05:12 AM)
yes exactly, Ds3 has a rather bad vdrop/droop.

For 4.0Ghz, it would take 1.3v in bios, reads 1.25-1.27 in windows, drops to 1.23 on load.

For 4.5, i'd need to set 1.51xx in bios, windows read 1.48 and drops to 1.45 on load.

temps taken from my G15 lcd via Everest.
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no dude thats 4ghz 1.23v

dude screenies..


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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Feb 2 2008, 05:12 AM)
yes exactly, Ds3 has a rather bad vdrop/droop.

For 4.0Ghz, it would take 1.3v in bios, reads 1.25-1.27 in windows, drops to 1.23 on load.

For 4.5, i'd need to set 1.51xx in bios, windows read 1.48 and drops to 1.45 on load.

temps taken from my G15 lcd via Everest.
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I have to agree. My P35-DS3 has even worse vdroop on quads

E6750 - 1.425v BIOS, 1.390v idle, 1.360v load
Q6600 - 1.400v BIOS, 1.360v idle, 1.312v load.... sweat.gif

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dude... this is no XS man, im not asking you to believe me nor do i gain anything from bragging. My results are nothing to brag over and its definately aint world record breaking as well, im just sharing my results since this is a discussion thread, question directed was very simply and i dont see any need to upload a screenie here. Since my first post on this thread the only thing ive ever heard outta ya was SC!! SC!! where is SC?!!!

well, if you insist, here u go.

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now, do u want me to snap a pic from bios as well? perhaps you might wanna see what colours are my underwear today? oh wait.. im not wearing one now sweat.gif
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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Feb 2 2008, 05:12 AM)
yes exactly, Ds3 has a rather bad vdrop/droop.

For 4.0Ghz, it would take 1.3v in bios, reads 1.25-1.27 in windows, drops to 1.23 on load.

For 4.5, i'd need to set 1.51xx in bios, windows read 1.48 and drops to 1.45 on load.

temps taken from my G15 lcd via Everest.
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vdroop and vdrop is good, for both the longevity of the cpu and mobo mosfets whistling.gif
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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Feb 2 2008, 12:01 PM)
dude... this is no XS man, im not asking you to believe me nor do i gain anything from bragging. My results are nothing to brag over and its definately aint world record breaking as well, im just sharing my results since this is a discussion thread, question directed was very simply and i dont see any need to upload a screenie here. Since my first post on this thread the only thing ive ever heard outta ya was SC!! SC!! where is SC?!!!

well, if you insist, here u go.

now, do u want me to snap a pic from bios as well? perhaps you might wanna see what colours are my underwear today? oh wait.. im not wearing one now sweat.gif
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laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif ....hope cstkl1 satisfied with the screenies...dont post ur underwear pic...later on ppl got phobia accessing this forum bcoz of it shakehead.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif ...(totally out topic)

@Aoi..what is ur batch number??? Q746A??? what bios ur DS3 using...F12??

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post Feb 2 2008, 10:34 PM


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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Feb 2 2008, 12:01 PM)
dude... this is no XS man, im not asking you to believe me nor do i gain anything from bragging. My results are nothing to brag over and its definately aint world record breaking as well, im just sharing my results since this is a discussion thread, question directed was very simply and i dont see any need to upload a screenie here. Since my first post on this thread the only thing ive ever heard outta ya was SC!! SC!! where is SC?!!!

well, if you insist, here u go.

Attached Image

now, do u want me to snap a pic from bios as well? perhaps you might wanna see what colours are my underwear today? oh wait.. im not wearing one now sweat.gif
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rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
i know what u got brows.gif




anyway,when can we get normal edition quad core penryn ah?

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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Feb 2 2008, 10:34 PM)
rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
i know what u got brows.gif
anyway,when can we get normal edition quad core penryn ah?
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end of february or earlier march... hmm.gif
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post Feb 2 2008, 10:42 PM

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woah woah, this aint a hate thread
keep it clean guys smile.gif
thanks yous biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Feb 2 2008, 10:01 PM)
Btw, did you manage to get yourself a new chip after selling off your E6750? There are stocks available for E8200's in LYP.
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Yup, I bought a 2nd-hand Q6600 G0 stepping!!! rclxm9.gif

Now my folding effort is doubled! rclxms.gif

My E6750 is not sold yet. Already reserved though. Waiting for the deal to go through...... smile.gif

Edit : Anyway, I've added a penryn wolfdale in my overclocking guide too.... haiyoo... headache....

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@all
well lets just keep the emotions and egos out of this place guys. Not trying to be good and all, but lets just stick to the point of discussion. I am not going to point fingers at anyone, since everyone here has a better rig than me jk jk, i mean all of you have rights of your own for expressing rite? lets just keep it at that.

@clawy
bro, u of all ppl, u should have the experience to handle this situation, not spark more. I am sure you can do better bro. youre a great guy, so i believe u can sort things out here

@cstkl1
well, what should i say, i dont know u well enough to say much, but i can tell that you have a lot of passion and the resources to test all the hardwares i only dream of getting. I guess sometimes, bro(if i can you that), its nice to listen and give an opportunity for someone to speak up, and try to help. I do hold high regards for you, becaus i believe that u do have a lot of substance in your words. But dont let it backfire on you. It would be a big loss.
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Based on my experience, such people should've been warned and suspended. There's nothing much to sort when someone deliberately launch personal attacks on others and not to mention using vulgarity.
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Feb 2 2008, 10:56 PM)
Based on my experience, such people should've been warned and suspended. There's nothing much to sort when someone deliberately launch personal attacks on others and not to mention using vulgarity.
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many things said.. in the end clawhammer ,,,, talking about the wind affect.. hmm he really must have whispered to his proc to make the
unknown world record 4ghz less than 11sec proc gone with the wind..

Based on my experience such ppl should be shot.

QUOTE(a1098113 @ Feb 2 2008, 11:03 PM)
i think that we should give him a chance bro. just have to understand him better.
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oh yeah mr ace..

found out some interesting stunts with maximus..

ah.. geee pity the asus maximus... so many ppl misunderstand and ill treated such a lovely mobo..
we have STUPID asus engineers to blame..

y?? cause they did not mention what the 4 settings meant.

Dram Static Control Read
Ai Clock Twister
Transaction Boost.
FSB termination Voltage.

Example 400fsb
Ok as u know the from reading anandtech that strap 400 default tRD is 10-12

gaygaybyte mobo on auto is 12
asus maximus is 9.66 (estimated)!!!!!... thats y so difficult
the ai clock twister is in between... strong will make it around (9.33 estimate)

on auto we get Transaction Boost Disable = Relax 0/Ai Clock Twister Moderate =trd 9.66 ( estimate)

Transaction Boost = Disable - Relax 0 /Ai Cock Twister Light/Dram Static Control Read Disable = TRD 10..

so when we set all of them auto we are running somewhere above 9, in between strong and 10.

This is y..
High bus difficult (use the anandtech calculation of Trd as example ) on auto..

after 11 hours of clocking.. this is my result.. and all i know is DRAM Static Control Gives another 100mb/s on everest... so i guess its another TRD boost thingy

advice..
Leave it at TRD 12 Strap 400.. and go from there..
Ok as u know PLL voltages is the voltage for the PLL chip that controls the bus of the proc.
NB is like command central that handles the everything to do with bandwidth... bus,FSB and mem.
FSB termination is the terminal value..



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source -> line -> component -> short line -> termination

the "lines" in this case are signal traces. works a lot like a SCSI bus. high speed switching operations can cause reflections on the line (in essence, this is resonant noise caused from high-speed switching on the lines as the memory controller gates on and off to place data on the bus, nothing more than rising and falling voltages). clearly enough, the faster the signal switches (higher frequency memory) the more noise.

termination resistors, used in passive termination environments, are exactly matched to the target frequency for operation based largely on trace length, ESR (equivalent series resistance) and the over capactive/inductive nature of the circuit, as well as some other things well out of the scope of this post. problem is that this is often matched for a specific frequency...which as we know is not so cool for overclockers. enter the active termination system. this actually uses a voltage bias to set final line resistance value so that the user can tune for better operation when overclocking.

this method of tuning is largely trial and error as you have no way of know the specification of the circuit or have any idea of the calculations need to find the "perfect" value. so anway, the answer is, strangely enough, whatever works best. smile.gif

hope this helps. :toast:

FCG ( freecable guy from XS


Hence.. u need to get a specific value for termination.
not over or lower..
too high BSOD..
too low instability.

Also for flatfinger..
ure trd is definately high..
as anandtech stated.. which i verified.. at 450 trd 7 CL4.. u need 1.6v..so gaygaybyte mobo owners..
ure settings is the turbo ram settings..
try 1000mhz CL4 TRD 7/8


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@cstkl1
if only i could try the settings.. laugh.gif but at the moment i am working on the ram u suggested the cl2 ddr2 800's.. see whther it can improve my 1M timings.. its a sad thing though, my board doesnt have a lot of features... but will work with it though.
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okay now, im very agitated now.
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mine are not d9gmh, i wish it was.. its just value(brainpower pcb, with promos, i think) ram maybe.. but it can do some decent clocks for value rams.
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Feb 3 2008, 12:23 AM)
mine are not d9gmh, i wish it was.. its just value(brainpower pcb, with promos, i think) ram maybe.. but it can do some decent clocks for value rams.
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hmm that means whatever i said cant apply
i do admit never had a low end proc..
lowest was e6600 ..

actually a bit confused.. i had to forget every chareristic of a C2d 65nm.. as it DOES not apply at all on 45nm..
wasted time trying to conform..

maybe tommorow if the e8500 tak jadi.. then i will get one in lyn for fun..
whats the highest clock in lyn ah??

new posting ready in 30 minutes... interesting stuff..

pity flatfinger selling off his proc..

for those that remembered the earlier settings.. the template and posting.. new one chun wei..
theory put in practise.

also want to say something..

posting is sharing..
talking about ure clocks and saying trust me is same like going to puchong food court and buying dvd
and trusting that guy when he say DVD9 good one.. ( he's been selling for a long time)
and thats contributing..
worst still when u defend heavily without any post and claimed the impossible..and makes an excuse by saying flamer etc....heck can call me the devil for i care..

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not sure what the highest clock is, well i am sure there are ways to play with settings for my value rams. just have to research and find out more. well, e2140 is a nice low end proc. u should try it sometime. smile.gif
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Feb 3 2008, 01:08 AM)
not sure what the highest clock is, well i am sure there are ways to play with settings for my value rams. just have to research and find out more. well, e2140 is a nice low end proc. u should try it sometime. smile.gif
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hmm the problem with value rams is the bin.... its hard to overcome it..

800 CL3's were binned by handpicked raw rams at CL3.
same as y some D9GKX are binned at CL5 1150/1200 but clock poorly on CL4 on lower clocks..
careful ppl i have been deemed having baseless statements..

malaysia is next to singapore.. baseless from me..
so baseless means if u dont know.. hence baseless??

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my brains too slow to process that at this time of the day. laugh.gif so looks like i need damn nice rams, but not expensive aye. Coz technology keeps changing, and depreciation is rapid.
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Feb 3 2008, 01:19 AM)
my brains too slow to process that at this time of the day. laugh.gif so looks like i need damn nice rams, but not expensive aye. Coz technology keeps changing, and depreciation is rapid.
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well thats true..
heck there is a classic example here in the thread.. depreciation is rapid.

no dude.. hmm price ratio would be getting 667's binned at CL3 or 800 binned at CL4 preferably D9GMH..


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