QUOTE(a1098113 @ Jan 28 2008, 10:43 PM)
Not stable leh..... Not all programs will give an error..... Intel Penryn Overclocking Thread, Toasting next gen 45nm babes ~
Intel Penryn Overclocking Thread, Toasting next gen 45nm babes ~
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Jan 28 2008, 10:48 PM
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Jan 28 2008, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Jan 28 2008, 10:51 PM) eh, hmm orthos blend and OCCT doesnt give an error liao. ONly Memtest.. can give advice how i can reduce the error chances besides buying Crucial ram lol. Now its OCed to ddr2 900 @ cl4. this secret rams The usual lor, either increase vdimm, loosen the timings, or set a lower speed.... no cheating |
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Jan 30 2008, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 30 2008, 02:14 PM) Typical Malaysian = get upset when people give comments I couldn't agree with you more. I like to post all details of my OC instead of posting some vague OC settings..... a lot would just post "My proc can do 3.5Ghz at 1.35v, without indicating anything like where the 1.35v reading comes from, is it at full load, what is the bios setting, what is the vdrop/vdroop of the mobo, how's the stability, etc.....Well, I'm not being mean to anyone and I've no idea why you guys felt so. On the flip side, maybe we should start learning how to accept positive and constructive critism/opinions. Plus, retaliating with personal attacks doesn't show maturity. Actually I can just disregard and let all of you continue your discussion but my main point is; let's just post one or two sensible screen shot of OC that will help others with their E8400 too Last but not least, let's try to improve the quality of our posts in the forums. The same thing with ram OC e.g. my ram can do 1200mhz.... which actually means nothing without the timings AND vdimm..... It actually gives misinformation and confusion to our forumers.... And finally, like I always say, this is ONLY a forum...... why in the world would you get upset/distress/angry over a forum..... Edit : Please note this is directed at no one in particular... This post has been edited by kmarc: Jan 30 2008, 03:10 PM |
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Jan 30 2008, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(flatfinger @ Jan 30 2008, 05:30 PM) i never push above 2.2v to my tracer...n always put fan hovering them... Yeah, don't push your crucial rams above 2.2v...... many forums say that crucial rams has an increased chance of kaput at higher than 2.2v.....try ur best on getting stable clock...gambatte!!! |
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Feb 2 2008, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Feb 2 2008, 05:12 AM) yes exactly, Ds3 has a rather bad vdrop/droop. I have to agree. My P35-DS3 has even worse vdroop on quadsFor 4.0Ghz, it would take 1.3v in bios, reads 1.25-1.27 in windows, drops to 1.23 on load. For 4.5, i'd need to set 1.51xx in bios, windows read 1.48 and drops to 1.45 on load. temps taken from my G15 lcd via Everest. E6750 - 1.425v BIOS, 1.390v idle, 1.360v load Q6600 - 1.400v BIOS, 1.360v idle, 1.312v load.... This post has been edited by kmarc: Feb 2 2008, 12:00 PM |
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Feb 2 2008, 10:45 PM
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Feb 2 2008, 10:01 PM) Btw, did you manage to get yourself a new chip after selling off your E6750? There are stocks available for E8200's in LYP. Yup, I bought a 2nd-hand Q6600 G0 stepping!!! Now my folding effort is doubled! My E6750 is not sold yet. Already reserved though. Waiting for the deal to go through...... Edit : Anyway, I've added a penryn wolfdale in my overclocking guide too.... haiyoo... headache.... This post has been edited by kmarc: Feb 2 2008, 10:46 PM |
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Feb 5 2008, 09:10 AM
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Feb 15 2008, 09:31 AM
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Feb 26 2008, 04:57 PM
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Hmmm.... so it is confirmed that Penryn CPUs are warrantied up to 1.36v..... http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3239&p=2
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Feb 26 2008, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Feb 26 2008, 05:49 PM) eh no dude.. Dunno.... bryaneo87 got a reply from Intel saying that the Q6600 is warrantied until 1.5v vcore....warranted up to ure box stated max hmm wait retract that back.. reason is cause last time thats what happened when i rmaed my p4. they knew i overclocked it and said it was warranted according to the box stated max.. So, I concluded that their warranty for vcore is based on the max VID voltage range. See here : http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLACR If you look at penryn, the max VID voltage range is 1.3625v... IIRC.... |
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Feb 26 2008, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Feb 26 2008, 06:54 PM) good question Yeah, I always wondered on that too..... same with DDR2 rams.... how do they find out that we OC higher than their warrantied vdimm?? but this was debate a few times.. but afaik it is true during the p4 days that intel has a way to find out what vcore u were running last before the proc kaputs. And here I am, too chicken to run my Q6600 higher than 1.400v set in BIOS!!!! This post has been edited by kmarc: Feb 26 2008, 07:10 PM |
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Feb 27 2008, 07:17 AM
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Feb 27 2008, 12:24 AM) In fact most of the time your warranty would go through. The reason is also because people from the west are very ethical and not many would claim RMA if they kill RAMs themselves due to overclocking. Unlike most Malaysians (if not some) which are abusive, we can kill the RAM multiple times, RMA it and still feel proud of that. Woah..... cool down guys.... let's not start another slug fest.... Anyway, my family lives in the U.S. and I must say that the word "ethical" don't really apply to them in terms of returning/RMAing stuffs because the process of RMA is a CULTURE over there...... don't like the colour, return it..... cannot OC so high, RMA it..... use 1 week and feel bored with it, return it..... no questions ask..... I find that incredible and somewhat surprising..... Anyway, we should get back to the topic..... sorry for the off-topic comment..... |
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Mar 3 2008, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(flatfinger @ Mar 3 2008, 09:15 AM) @4.0GHz all mobo should not hav a problem...only the different is the vcore that needed to feed it... Hey! Nice explanation! Added on March 3, 2008, 9:24 am GTL = Gunning Transceiver Logic - reference levels that the CPU uses when determining if a data or address signal is either high or low to NB chip...acting like divider for CPU:NB - usually specified as a percentage of Vtt/vfsb - this values are particularly important when overclocking quad-core CPU especially when venturing above 450fsb - the theory is like when u search a radio station...u get it..then u fine tune it...to a better clear reception frequency..so in OCing...example: u find the vcore 1.30v to get 4.0GHz...adjust ur GTL maybe will bring u at 1.29v...getting lower vcore from the previous...but it just a very small value... - other like if u r priming at 4.0GHz but failed after 45 minutes...by tweaking GTL...then u priming again...it will go over the 45 minutes example maybe 2 hours if the setting is correct - those looking for a maximum stable overclock with the minimum amount of voltages will find GTL tuning a necessity...otherwise no need to do...just like some mobo out there...there is no GTL tweaking option in their bios... - its actually a fine tune of stability... Vtt = Vfsb = termination voltage Was going to do that in my guide but lazy..... |
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Mar 3 2008, 11:05 PM
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Mar 13 2008, 11:53 AM
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May 8 2008, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ May 5 2008, 08:03 PM) Why can't it reach 3.4Ghz? You're already at 3.3Ghz at 1.2v ma.....For penryn, the last I heard/read, the recommendation is not to go above 1.35v... The noctua HSF is nice but maybe you should get a high-end one like the TRUE This post has been edited by kmarc: May 8 2008, 05:37 PM |
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May 8 2008, 05:45 PM
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I see... hmmm.... too bad it's limited by the FSB wall rather than the vcore.... guess that's the downside of a low CPU multiplier.....
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May 13 2008, 06:39 PM
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May 13 2008, 07:11 PM
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Some people want to downclock ma......
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Aug 15 2008, 11:00 PM
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Need some help here. Long story short:
Proc : X3320 (equivalent to Q9300) - stock 2.5Ghz (333 x 7.5) - VID 1.150v (default bios set 1.1375v) Mobo : Gigabyte P35-DS3 r2.0 - Bios F12 (actually F13 is the updated bios for penryn quads) Overclocking: - no problem overclocking to around 3.15ghz (420mhz x 7.5) at 1.1325v!!!! - can't get past 424mhz ---- looks like FSB wall (dunno mobo or proc) ---- vcore increased up to 1.275v ---- vMCH +0.2v ---- vFSB +0.2v ---- vPCI-E +0.1v ---- PCI-E frequency 100mhz - 101mhz Issues that might overcome this problem: - Update bios (not going to do that as my last bios update resulted in a dead mobo) - Change mobo - - Use my DFI blood iron - which has VTT & GTLref..... (lazy to disassemble two rigs.... So, any suggestion is greatly appreciated..... Priming at 1.1325v (BIOS set) Oh ya, some disadvantages of this proc: 1) Low multiplier 7.5x 2) Temperature sensor is faulty.... looks like lots of penryn procs have faulty temperature sensors.... This post has been edited by kmarc: Aug 15 2008, 11:03 PM |
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