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post Jan 28 2008, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Jan 28 2008, 10:43 PM)
anyone here knows why memtest gives errors whilst orthos for 3 hours(blend) does not give errors?
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Not stable leh..... Not all programs will give an error..... smile.gif
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post Jan 28 2008, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Jan 28 2008, 10:51 PM)
eh, hmm orthos blend and OCCT doesnt give an error liao. ONly Memtest.. can give advice how i can reduce the error chances besides buying Crucial ram lol. Now its OCed to ddr2 900 @ cl4. this secret rams brows.gif
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The usual lor, either increase vdimm, loosen the timings, or set a lower speed.... no cheating tongue.gif
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post Jan 30 2008, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 30 2008, 02:14 PM)
Typical Malaysian = get upset when people give comments smile.gif

Well, I'm not being mean to anyone and I've no idea why you guys felt so. On the flip side, maybe we should start learning how to accept positive and constructive critism/opinions. Plus, retaliating with personal attacks doesn't show maturity.

Actually I can just disregard and let all of you continue your discussion but my main point is; let's just post one or two sensible screen shot of OC that will help others with their E8400 too smile.gif It's easier for people to refer as well (look at what other forums do). We're here to share and discuss, not to feel upset when someone disagrees. Sometimes there's no right or wrong so don't always think when someone says something against you, they are putting you at fault.

Last but not least, let's try to improve the quality of our posts in the forums.
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I couldn't agree with you more. I like to post all details of my OC instead of posting some vague OC settings..... a lot would just post "My proc can do 3.5Ghz at 1.35v, without indicating anything like where the 1.35v reading comes from, is it at full load, what is the bios setting, what is the vdrop/vdroop of the mobo, how's the stability, etc.....

The same thing with ram OC e.g. my ram can do 1200mhz.... which actually means nothing without the timings AND vdimm.....

It actually gives misinformation and confusion to our forumers....

And finally, like I always say, this is ONLY a forum...... why in the world would you get upset/distress/angry over a forum..... rclxub.gif

Edit : Please note this is directed at no one in particular... smile.gif

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post Jan 30 2008, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(flatfinger @ Jan 30 2008, 05:30 PM)
i never push above 2.2v to my tracer...n always put fan hovering them...

try ur best on getting stable clock...gambatte!!!
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Yeah, don't push your crucial rams above 2.2v...... many forums say that crucial rams has an increased chance of kaput at higher than 2.2v.....
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post Feb 2 2008, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Feb 2 2008, 05:12 AM)
yes exactly, Ds3 has a rather bad vdrop/droop.

For 4.0Ghz, it would take 1.3v in bios, reads 1.25-1.27 in windows, drops to 1.23 on load.

For 4.5, i'd need to set 1.51xx in bios, windows read 1.48 and drops to 1.45 on load.

temps taken from my G15 lcd via Everest.
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I have to agree. My P35-DS3 has even worse vdroop on quads

E6750 - 1.425v BIOS, 1.390v idle, 1.360v load
Q6600 - 1.400v BIOS, 1.360v idle, 1.312v load.... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Feb 2 2008, 10:01 PM)
Btw, did you manage to get yourself a new chip after selling off your E6750? There are stocks available for E8200's in LYP.
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Yup, I bought a 2nd-hand Q6600 G0 stepping!!! rclxm9.gif

Now my folding effort is doubled! rclxms.gif

My E6750 is not sold yet. Already reserved though. Waiting for the deal to go through...... smile.gif

Edit : Anyway, I've added a penryn wolfdale in my overclocking guide too.... haiyoo... headache....

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post Feb 5 2008, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(uzairi @ Feb 5 2008, 02:22 AM)
Some results of E8400 on Gigabyte P35 DS3 F12.
Vcore bios : 1.425v
Vcore load : 1.344v
Vmch : +0.1v
Vfsb : stock
Vpci-e : stock
Vdimm : 2.0V
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Hey, you've got a new baby for folding ka? thumbup.gif
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post Feb 15 2008, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(IcEMoCHa @ Feb 15 2008, 09:20 AM)
q9450 @ 3.6ghz or e8400 @ 4ghz ... i dunno which 1 to choose now...
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post Feb 26 2008, 04:57 PM

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Hmmm.... so it is confirmed that Penryn CPUs are warrantied up to 1.36v..... http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3239&p=2

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Feb 26 2008, 05:49 PM)
eh no dude..
warranted up to ure box stated max

hmm wait retract that back..

reason is cause last time thats what happened when i rmaed my p4. they knew i overclocked it and said it was warranted according to the box stated max..
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Dunno.... bryaneo87 got a reply from Intel saying that the Q6600 is warrantied until 1.5v vcore....

So, I concluded that their warranty for vcore is based on the max VID voltage range. See here : http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLACR

If you look at penryn, the max VID voltage range is 1.3625v... IIRC....
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Feb 26 2008, 06:54 PM)
good question

but this was debate a few times.. but afaik it is true during the p4 days that intel has a way to find out what vcore u were running last before the proc kaputs.
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Yeah, I always wondered on that too..... same with DDR2 rams.... how do they find out that we OC higher than their warrantied vdimm?? hmm.gif

And here I am, too chicken to run my Q6600 higher than 1.400v set in BIOS!!!! doh.gif

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Feb 27 2008, 12:24 AM)
In fact most of the time your warranty would go through. The reason is also because people from the west are very ethical and not many would claim RMA if they kill RAMs themselves due to overclocking. Unlike most Malaysians (if not some) which are abusive, we can kill the RAM multiple times, RMA it and still feel proud of that.
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Woah..... cool down guys.... let's not start another slug fest.... sweat.gif

Anyway, my family lives in the U.S. and I must say that the word "ethical" don't really apply to them in terms of returning/RMAing stuffs because the process of RMA is a CULTURE over there...... don't like the colour, return it..... cannot OC so high, RMA it..... use 1 week and feel bored with it, return it..... no questions ask..... I find that incredible and somewhat surprising.....

Anyway, we should get back to the topic..... sorry for the off-topic comment..... icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(flatfinger @ Mar 3 2008, 09:15 AM)
@4.0GHz all mobo should not hav a problem...only the different is the vcore that needed to feed it...


Added on March 3, 2008, 9:24 am
GTL = Gunning Transceiver Logic
- reference levels that the CPU uses when determining if a data or address signal is either high or low to NB chip...acting like divider for CPU:NB
- usually specified as a percentage of Vtt/vfsb
- this values are particularly important when overclocking quad-core CPU especially when venturing above 450fsb
- the theory is like when u search a radio station...u get it..then u fine tune it...to a better clear reception frequency..so in OCing...example: u find the vcore 1.30v to get 4.0GHz...adjust ur GTL maybe will bring u at 1.29v...getting lower vcore from the previous...but it just a very small value...
- other like if u r priming at 4.0GHz but failed after 45 minutes...by tweaking GTL...then u priming again...it will go over the 45 minutes example maybe 2 hours if the setting is correct
- those looking for a maximum stable overclock with the minimum amount of voltages will find GTL tuning a necessity...otherwise no need to do...just like some mobo out there...there is no GTL tweaking option in their bios...
- its actually a fine tune of stability...

Vtt = Vfsb = termination voltage
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Hey! Nice explanation! thumbup.gif

Was going to do that in my guide but lazy..... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(IcEMoCHa @ Mar 3 2008, 10:16 PM)
weird.. i sometimes get random errors from orthos and orthos crash... maybe shud try other stress programs... any recomendations?
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That can also occur when your OC is not stable......
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QUOTE(Vtec(Rock) @ Mar 13 2008, 11:30 AM)
after a week.and over 8 unit e8400 test.finally i get my best e8400....just 1.23v to orthos 8x500 stable!!!!!
rock and roll core
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That's a nice proc. thumbup.gif

How in the world did you get 8 units of E8400 to test? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ May 5 2008, 08:03 PM)
Wow..is it possible?
My Q9300 very hard to achieve 3.4GHz already.

@kiong
Share some tips..  drool.gif  drool.gif

-pWs-
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Why can't it reach 3.4Ghz? You're already at 3.3Ghz at 1.2v ma.....

For penryn, the last I heard/read, the recommendation is not to go above 1.35v...

The noctua HSF is nice but maybe you should get a high-end one like the TRUE wub.gif ....

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I see... hmmm.... too bad it's limited by the FSB wall rather than the vcore.... guess that's the downside of a low CPU multiplier.....
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ May 13 2008, 05:30 PM)
Yea....Auto is the lowest Vcore you can get. smile.gif

-pWs-
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You can use some software to get lower vcore than Auto/stock..... brows.gif

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Some people want to downclock ma...... smile.gif
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Need some help here. Long story short:

Proc : X3320 (equivalent to Q9300)
- stock 2.5Ghz (333 x 7.5)
- VID 1.150v (default bios set 1.1375v)

Mobo : Gigabyte P35-DS3 r2.0
- Bios F12 (actually F13 is the updated bios for penryn quads)

Overclocking:
- no problem overclocking to around 3.15ghz (420mhz x 7.5) at 1.1325v!!!!
- can't get past 424mhz
---- looks like FSB wall (dunno mobo or proc)
---- vcore increased up to 1.275v
---- vMCH +0.2v
---- vFSB +0.2v
---- vPCI-E +0.1v
---- PCI-E frequency 100mhz - 101mhz

Issues that might overcome this problem:
- Update bios (not going to do that as my last bios update resulted in a dead mobo)
- Change mobo - sweat.gif
- Use my DFI blood iron - which has VTT & GTLref..... (lazy to disassemble two rigs.... whistling.gif)



So, any suggestion is greatly appreciated..... thumbup.gif

Priming at 1.1325v (BIOS set)
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Oh ya, some disadvantages of this proc:
1) Low multiplier 7.5x
2) Temperature sensor is faulty.... looks like lots of penryn procs have faulty temperature sensors....

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