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post Feb 1 2008, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Feb 1 2008, 12:10 PM)
well then no great oc for u

just plug and play eh
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im not so extreme like u... tongue.gif...only so-so lar...
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QUOTE(flatfinger @ Feb 1 2008, 12:25 PM)
im not so extreme like u... tongue.gif...only so-so lar...
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wei this is not about so so..
its about maximising ure rams, proc , cooling..
to get ure moneys worth..

and guess what all of them are plugged into.. mobo..

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Feb 1 2008, 01:15 PM)
wei this is not about so so..
its about maximising ure rams, proc , cooling..
to get ure moneys worth..

and guess what all of them are plugged into.. mobo..
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laugh.gif im maximising rams, proc , cooling on the midrange....u on the high-end brows.gif ...so how's ur high-end performing...ure ur money or not...

by the way...doing some surfing around n found Abit p35-E also got the temperature problem...there's a user that got 60' reading rite after plugin E8400 on it.....

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QUOTE(flatfinger @ Feb 1 2008, 02:34 PM)
laugh.gif im maximising rams, proc , cooling on the midrange....u on the high-end brows.gif ...so how's ur high-end performing...ure ur money or not...

by the way...doing some surfing around n found Abit p35-E also got the temperature problem...there's a user that got 60' reading rite after plugin E8400 on it.....
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hell yeah
i am not going to let my 4x 1gb creap of the crop Team Xtreem PC2-6400 Cl3 touch anything but pure vanilla.

but i must admit.. pretty damn impressed with the reapers PC2-8500... was recommended by a friend in XS who lagi extreme .. will open the heatsink and use his own custom water cooling on those rams.

btw.. day 2 world record 4ghz no show.. hmm maybe it was a 8mb cache.. intel supersecret proc tersilap packaging..is out.



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flatfinger, many boards are having issues with the temps. Also, I found out that most people had their E8400's stable around 4.0 - 4.3Ghz max. The rest are able to boot into Windows for Super PI but we can't use it because it isn't stable.

I got mine around 4.1Ghz at 1.4x Vcore but sold it off two days ago. I guess I'll just wait a bit before getting another one.
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Feb 1 2008, 03:41 PM)
flatfinger, many boards are having issues with the temps. Also, I found out that most people had their E8400's stable around 4.0 - 4.3Ghz max. The rest are able to boot into Windows for Super PI but we can't use it because it isn't stable.

I got mine around 4.1Ghz at 1.4x Vcore but sold it off two days ago. I guess I'll just wait a bit before getting another one.
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i need ur screenies for ur E8400...

yeah i know 4.0Ghz-4.3Ghz stable can be done with the rite voltage...the prob is the temp...actually i kind of "sayang" my bio board...it can do 510 fsb...really nice...
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I lost my screenie after I ghosted my clean copy of Vista over. 4.1Ghz is the best I could do after a few days of playing. I tried all I could to get Orthos running stable at 4.2Ghz+ but can't smile.gif

I can do 8 x 500 as well but after owning and knowing it isn't stable at 4.5Ghz like what most people and reviews claim it can do, I decided to sell it off.
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Feb 1 2008, 03:59 PM)
I lost my screenie after I ghosted my clean copy of Vista over. 4.1Ghz is the best I could do after a few days of playing. I tried all I could to get Orthos running stable at 4.2Ghz+ but can't smile.gif

I can do 8 x 500 as well but after owning and knowing it isn't stable at 4.5Ghz like what most people and reviews claim it can do, I decided to sell it off.
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selling it already...who's buying it???

FYI, E8400 is not going to be stable orthos at 4.5Ghz with lower voltage...to reach stable 4.3Ghz-4.4Ghz u must feed at least 1.5v with an increase Vmch n Vfsb n other bios voltage tweaking...

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I've tried that and it doesn't work so does plenty of people (I frequent other forums as well). If we can do 8 x 500, it means the board has no problems reaching 500FSB (taking into account VMCH, Vdimm, ICHIO, etc) but if 9 x 465 tend to have stability issues, it is most likely the CPU.

I also don't post screenshots of Super PI's and if I don't get a good overclock, I'll never post it up biggrin.gif I posted in garage sales 2-3 days ago and yes, someone bought it - not our usual OC kaki though.
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Feb 1 2008, 04:41 PM)
I've tried that and it doesn't work so does plenty of people (I frequent other forums as well). If we can do 8 x 500, it means the board has no problems reaching 500FSB (taking into account VMCH, Vdimm, ICHIO, etc) but if 9 x 465 tend to have stability issues, it is most likely the CPU.

I also don't post screenshots of Super PI's and if I don't get a good overclock, I'll never post it up biggrin.gif I posted in garage sales 2-3 days ago and yes, someone bought it - not our usual OC kaki though.
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so what's ur next target proc??? the Yorkfield ???? whistling.gif

team KOC managed to do 5.0Ghz on dry ice if im not mistaken..

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Btw, I tried on both ABIT IP35-Pro and Foxconn Mars with no luck getting it stable. Perhaps my E8400 is just not a super overclock but Aoi's one looks promising.

I can't afford Yorkfield but hopefully Intel comes out with better overclockable Wolfdale smile.gif I'd be happy to get another one.


Added on February 1, 2008, 4:54 pmYes, some guys at Xtreme manage to go beyond 5Ghz w/o Dry Ice too. It's not stable, just for the fun of CPU-Z and Super PI screenies biggrin.gif


Added on February 1, 2008, 4:59 pmHere are some good stuffs. A fellow Swedish overclocker with E8400 on the Foxconn Mars:

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=305556

http://bandwidth.se/imgs/nouser/spi9625523a781a.jpg

He did this on air cooling smile.gif

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Feb 1 2008, 04:53 PM)
Btw, I tried on both ABIT IP35-Pro and Foxconn Mars with no luck getting it stable. Perhaps my E8400 is just not a super overclock but Aoi's one looks promising.

I can't afford Yorkfield but hopefully Intel comes out with better overclockable Wolfdale smile.gif I'd be happy to get another one.


Added on February 1, 2008, 4:54 pmYes, some guys at Xtreme manage to go beyond 5Ghz w/o Dry Ice too. It's not stable, just for the fun of CPU-Z and Super PI screenies biggrin.gif


Added on February 1, 2008, 4:59 pmHere are some good stuffs. A fellow Swedish overclocker with E8400 on the Foxconn Mars:

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=305556

http://bandwidth.se/imgs/nouser/spi9625523a781a.jpg

He did this on air cooling smile.gif
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that 1 is E8500...maybe the characteristic is different...or something...
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cheh..
world record 4ghz gone to somebody who never overclocks..


hmm heck i would have bought that proc.

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@clawwy

on ABIT IP35-Pro and Foxconn Mars...what the E8400 temp on both board?? idle n load? default n OC??

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Idle at stock voltage is around 40C+ and load can go up to 70C+
However when I touch the heatsink, it's not hot and I can leave my fingers there as long as I want. Other people reported temp reading problems on their boards too so we just have to wait for a BIOS fix or maybe Core Temp itself.
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Feb 1 2008, 04:53 PM)
Btw, I tried on both ABIT IP35-Pro and Foxconn Mars with no luck getting it stable. Perhaps my E8400 is just not a super overclock but Aoi's one looks promising.

I can't afford Yorkfield but hopefully Intel comes out with better overclockable Wolfdale smile.gif I'd be happy to get another one.


Added on February 1, 2008, 4:54 pmYes, some guys at Xtreme manage to go beyond 5Ghz w/o Dry Ice too. It's not stable, just for the fun of CPU-Z and Super PI screenies biggrin.gif


Added on February 1, 2008, 4:59 pmHere are some good stuffs. A fellow Swedish overclocker with E8400 on the Foxconn Mars:

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=305556

http://bandwidth.se/imgs/nouser/spi9625523a781a.jpg

He did this on air cooling smile.gif
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as promising at it looks initially, well.. perhaps its just my board isn't that good, but i've hit the wall i think. Or perhaps the proc needs more burn in before further overclock can be done.

Yesterday night brian was with me in my hse playing with it, it was able to boot up at even 580fsb, but unstable, managed to run 1M superPI @ 560x8. The max stable clock im able to find now is only at 4.5Ghz at 1.45v, i didnt dare to pump up too much voltage because im not very confident with the temperatures with my current cooling and the problem with the temp sensor.

Then again, to think again, i usually categorize processors in 3 category.

1. Able to run high overclocks with low voltage but not very responsive with voltage increment thus make it a good choice for long run.
2. Very responsive to voltage increment and can go very far when overclocked, usually the record breaking type of procs.
3. Wont budge at all sweat.gif

I think mine would be the first type here laugh.gif

QUOTE(clawhammer @ Feb 1 2008, 06:30 PM)
Idle at stock voltage is around 40C+ and load can go up to 70C+
However when I touch the heatsink, it's not hot and I can leave my fingers there as long as I want. Other people reported temp reading problems on their boards too so we just have to wait for a BIOS fix or maybe Core Temp itself.
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yea... same case is occuring to me too, im idling at 52c and loads up at 57c. But when i touch the heatsink, its not even hot at all, as the matter in fact, its rather cold. Only the base of the heatsink is slightly warm.
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hmm and no screenshots.. interesting...
fantastic contribution an discussion.. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif



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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Feb 1 2008, 09:59 PM)
as promising at it looks initially, well.. perhaps its just my board isn't that good, but i've hit the wall i think. Or perhaps the proc needs more burn in before further overclock can be done.

Yesterday night brian was with me in my hse playing with it, it was able to boot up at even 580fsb, but unstable, managed to run 1M superPI @ 560x8. The max stable clock im able to find now is only at 4.5Ghz at 1.45v, i didnt dare to pump up too much voltage because im not very confident with the temperatures with my current cooling and the problem with the temp sensor.

Then again, to think again, i usually categorize processors in 3 category.

1. Able to run high overclocks with low voltage but not very responsive with voltage increment thus make it a good choice for long run.
2. Very responsive to voltage increment and can go very far when overclocked, usually the record breaking type of procs.
3. Wont budge at all sweat.gif

I think mine would be the first type here laugh.gif
yea... same case is occuring to me too, im idling at 52c and loads up at 57c. But when i touch the heatsink, its not even hot at all, as the matter in fact, its rather cold. Only the base of the heatsink is slightly warm.
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@Aoi
for 4.0Ghz and 4.5Ghz setting stable...
I just wanna know what is ur vcore in bios setting?? vcore drop in windows (cpu-z reading)?? and vdroop when prime orthos???...can u provide me this info...i know that DS3 has high vdrop...

example...
4.0Ghz setting
in bios u set it 1.375v...
loading into windows n cpu-z will detect 1.32v
vdroop priming orthos will make it 1.29v
stable

so what ur voltage setting for vbios, vdrop n vdroop???

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QUOTE(flatfinger @ Feb 2 2008, 04:57 AM)
@Aoi
for 4.0Ghz and 4.5Ghz setting stable...
I just wanna know what is ur vcore in bios setting?? vcore drop in windows (cpu-z reading)?? and vdroop when prime orthos???...can u provide me this info...i know that DS3 has high vdrop...

example...
4.0Ghz setting
in bios u set it 1.375v...
loading into windows n cpu-z will detect 1.32v
vdroop priming orthos will make it 1.29v
stable

so what ur voltage setting for vbios, vdrop n vdroop???
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yes exactly, Ds3 has a rather bad vdrop/droop.

For 4.0Ghz, it would take 1.3v in bios, reads 1.25-1.27 in windows, drops to 1.23 on load.

For 4.5, i'd need to set 1.51xx in bios, windows read 1.48 and drops to 1.45 on load.

temps taken from my G15 lcd via Everest.
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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Feb 2 2008, 05:12 AM)
yes exactly, Ds3 has a rather bad vdrop/droop.

For 4.0Ghz, it would take 1.3v in bios, reads 1.25-1.27 in windows, drops to 1.23 on load.

For 4.5, i'd need to set 1.51xx in bios, windows read 1.48 and drops to 1.45 on load.

temps taken from my G15 lcd via Everest.
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so u r stable at 4.0Ghz at 1.3v...nice...
im done playing with my wolfdale...hate the temp bug...going to let it go...

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