again i said its depend on what board that u plug it in...coz i try mine to my fren Giga board...it can easily boot 4.4Ghz at 1.375v only..some more running SP1M...

can u post some screenie of ur E8400...

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Added on January 30, 2008, 4:50 pmhuhu...most of the voltage is high..looking at NB and FSB totally higher than mine only below 1.5v...that pop an idea of theory in my head...but this weird temp reading holding me back...

This post has been edited by flatfinger: Jan 30 2008, 05:04 PM

no choice
if not
orthos might not be stable

but it will fail memtest windows.. my requirement is 1000% with no errors.

rams.. hmm i think my rams die gonna die already eventhough they are rated to run at 2.3 with Ovp 2.35..
oh wel..
at least didnt burn like one pair of the team rams.. that one memang scared the crap out of me. thought mobo gone case.

hmm orthos priority 9 no joke.. need more vcore..

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jan 30 2008, 05:44 PM

i never push above 2.2v to my tracer...n always put fan hovering them...

try ur best on getting stable clock...gambatte!!!

This post has been edited by flatfinger: Jan 30 2008, 05:31 PM

The Ballistix Tracers are hot and I had a fan on top of them too. It does high Mhz pretty easily too and same like you, I never had it above 2.2V

I'll post my E8400 @ 4Ghz when I get home (done yesterday).

finally.

tracers are hot .. had one of the earlier batches..
totally recommended to buy the corsair dominator airflow kit rather than placing a fan... rm90 and ure set.

u get more direct airflow.. static flow rather than a spread flow from a larger fan.

cons on any ballistix..
they degrade faster cause of the silly heatsink on it.

okay confirm ram bye bye.. heck now 800 CL4 2.3 also errors...
will bench later at night temps too high..

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jan 30 2008, 05:39 PM

Yeah, don't push your crucial rams above 2.2v...... many forums say that crucial rams has an increased chance of kaput at higher than 2.2v.....

lol... there are alternative ram coolers that are much cheaper....

true bro
but build quality and heck they even sleeved the wires..
its just undeniable value ..and best part easy to remove and doesnt take much space.

found a interesting read

tested..

lowered my NB and changed accordingly..

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=9

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jan 30 2008, 06:55 PM

@icstkl
i am thinking about getting the corsair fan coolers too. Looks nice and neat.. and its good u dont have to put heatsinks that dont actually cool the ram.

dude read the link above..
it answer some of the questions u posed.

@cstkl
thanks bro. Will look into it.

sishh the no of dumbasses buying that team elite rams..

pity them..
just had a view at the garage sales..

heck later they going to blame the mobo for it not being stable.

oh well what to do need to "respect" ppl ..

okay i want to give some of u ppl caution on reviews

example...
of dumbasses who dont know how to test rams

1.http://www.virtual-hideout.net/reviews/OCZ_Reaper_8500/index3.shtml

basket needs a 101 class on straps.

and this guy is not on the only one on this planet who gets sponsered for crap review.


reason for this comment..
a lot of u are going to do 500fsb on this proc..
trust me.. this is where u are going to see false claims of ram potential fall flat on ure face.'

this is y i like pcmodding reviews..
he test it on amd systems once in a while..

this site ..
http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&articID=618

good review.. he points out straps. bus. and whole memset timings with some form of stability test.
so happy shopping ppl.


This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jan 31 2008, 09:21 AM

ermm..so mean...at some speed...we hav to loose the trd setting abit...rite?? correct me if im wrong...

hmm anandtech explained it best
on trd vs NB voltages..

and whats the lowest u can achieve..

check it out..

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Added on January 31, 2008, 9:43 amanother tip.. if
ure rams can do 1:1 400 3-3-3-8 at around 2.3v stable on Orthos Large FFT 15 minutes min.. doesnt matter priority..

u would have no probs running 1000mhz Cl4

if u can do 1:1 400 3-4-3-9 at 2.2 v stable orthos large fft 15 minutes
u should have no problem running either of these
1000mhz 5-5-5-15
1000mhz 4-5-4-12

promos might be 2.3v for the above.
Ballistix should be able to do 3-4-3-9 Trd 6 at 2.2v easy..

Example of good rams..
RM400-450 with OVP 2.35v only.. and in a few words.. AWESOME.. do u guys watch the series " Chuck"... mr.awesome..
OCZ best lineup rams..
1. Titanium Alpha VX2.. hmm kindda sad i sold that off cheap.
2. OCZ Patinum PC2-8500
3. OCZ Reaper PC2-8500

Vdimm Droop 2.304-2.32..
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Tip:

one note however this rams are binned at CL5..

so their CL4 overclocking wont be that good..
rams that are binned at CL3 will rock on CL4.

it pays to do ure homework and find out crappy reviews.

oh yeah just realize theres another way of boosting ure sandra scores

theres 3 ways
1.Cache Latency
2.Trd..
3.hmm will tell u if u wanna know.. but for this the lowest setting i have ever seen on stock is the Titanium Alpha VX2. all other rams are not as tight as these rams.

advantageous of bandwidth.. mainly ure graphic card... here is an example of on the spot posting..
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[attachmentid=390863] - sishh 200k aquamark nowadays.. damn easy.

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Added on January 31, 2008, 4:15 pm
edited.. no wars.. patience is the key.


hmm i wonder should i do a review on this rams..
anybody interested in buying them?? not from me but u know..

got some ppl review on rams here kindda silly on 1:1.. CL5 on all of the..
i think he needs to read on TRD's..


This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jan 31 2008, 04:40 PM

woah... 3.6ghz + stock GPU clock also can reach 210k+...

the rams..
they boosted the aquamark score by 10k..

cause the other day i tried 3.6ghz 800 CL5 8800gts overclocked to 760/1860/2140.. only 203k..
maybe the graphic card was unstable.. didnt check..

aquamark shows a lot of boost on bandwidth.. hence real world application noted..

but this is definately a first for me..
heck real world gaming u dont need to go further than these.
doesnt make a difference much..

450mhz 4-4-3-8 trd lowest again at 2.3 oh yeah not going to go above this..
more powah..
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the 6mb cache.. is gila...+this D9's rock..
not as good as teams.. as even as much as i push the vdimm it is not going to budge 880 3-4-3-9..
but team CL3's rocks.. can do 900 3-3-3-8 .. hmm find it .. it one of my aquamark score somewhere in LYN...but at 2.4v powah...

this is the minimum i guess for D9's to do 1000mhz Cl4.
if u cant do this.. ure gonna be in trouble to do

characteristic of D9's
those that are bin at lower CL5.. 1066 CL5 example loves the precharge delay of 8 for CL4 and CL3 mainly
the 1000 Cl5 loves 3-4-3-9 and hence precharge delay of 9..
this is from my observations after spending more than 10k on rams last year...

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Added on January 31, 2008, 11:00 pmokay no signs of world record SP1 m...
i wonder blowing on proc can make that 0.6-0.7sec disappear.. testing


This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jan 31 2008, 11:00 PM

waaa...so long of explanation...im going to let go my Bio tp35d2-a7...any suggestion other brand mobo under RM400...

thinking of Abit p35-E..this blue board got my attention at 1st glance...but the prob is my psu only got 4pin atx...the Abit used 8 pin atx....yes it can be use...but how bout the stability??? since im going to push the Wolfdale...any comment???

This post has been edited by flatfinger: Feb 1 2008, 11:05 AM

Asus P5k Premium...
for p35 that is not that expensive

Foxconn P35 Mars - Actual User here.. no imaginary..

both boards has a lot of pencil mods done

4 requirement to get a board

1. Max NB/PLL Voltages u have + GTL controls ( more beneficial when u go quadcore actually)
2. Ram Timings patricularly Sub timings TRD controls + Dram Reference Voltages
3. Max FSB stated Support by NB. if asus says 1600 that means no increase on Voltages etc 1.2v on NB can do 1600 on a capable proc.
4. Cooling of NB/Placement of common things.. that will affect heat transfer.
5. Vmod for insufficient NB/PLL voltages or pencil mod for droops.

most asus,dfi boards and the foxconn p35 mars adheres to this.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Feb 1 2008, 11:47 AM

they all above RM400...im not so "kaya" "

well then no great oc for u

just plug and play eh