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post Jan 30 2008, 02:14 PM

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Typical Malaysian = get upset when people give comments smile.gif

Well, I'm not being mean to anyone and I've no idea why you guys felt so. On the flip side, maybe we should start learning how to accept positive and constructive critism/opinions. Plus, retaliating with personal attacks doesn't show maturity.

Actually I can just disregard and let all of you continue your discussion but my main point is; let's just post one or two sensible screen shot of OC that will help others with their E8400 too smile.gif It's easier for people to refer as well (look at what other forums do). We're here to share and discuss, not to feel upset when someone disagrees. Sometimes there's no right or wrong so don't always think when someone says something against you, they are putting you at fault.

Last but not least, let's try to improve the quality of our posts in the forums.
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post Jan 30 2008, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 30 2008, 02:14 PM)
Typical Malaysian = get upset when people give comments smile.gif

Well, I'm not being mean to anyone and I've no idea why you guys felt so. On the flip side, maybe we should start learning how to accept positive and constructive critism/opinions. Plus, retaliating with personal attacks doesn't show maturity.

Actually I can just disregard and let all of you continue your discussion but my main point is; let's just post one or two sensible screen shot of OC that will help others with their E8400 too smile.gif It's easier for people to refer as well (look at what other forums do). We're here to share and discuss, not to feel upset when someone disagrees. Sometimes there's no right or wrong so don't always think when someone says something against you, they are putting you at fault.

Last but not least, let's try to improve the quality of our posts in the forums.
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maybe indirectly he felt like that bcoz u keep on questioning his post...I agree with the positive thinking way...well lets continue discussing... rclxm9.gif

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post Jan 30 2008, 02:38 PM

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Thanks bro smile.gif I don't go against people, trust me. Actually myself is also confused when there are multiple screenies. Maybe all of us should try hitting 4Ghz (for a start) and post one up with the core voltage so it's easier to compare.

I know Mr. AoiNatsume has a good chip.
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 30 2008, 02:38 PM)
Thanks bro smile.gif I don't go against people, trust me. Actually myself is also confused when there are multiple screenies. Maybe all of us should try hitting 4Ghz (for a start) and post one up with the core voltage so it's easier to compare.

I know Mr. AoiNatsume has a good chip.
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yup true..

and those who claims to do less than 11sec sp1m also post their first screen shots of them owning a e8400..

more to learn.
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post Jan 30 2008, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 30 2008, 02:38 PM)
Thanks bro smile.gif I don't go against people, trust me. Actually myself is also confused when there are multiple screenies. Maybe all of us should try hitting 4Ghz (for a start) and post one up with the core voltage so it's easier to compare.

I know Mr. AoiNatsume has a good chip.
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forgive me for being the peace keeper sweat.gif
the E8400 will perform well if u plug in on a supported mobo...if im not mistaken..i have read somewhere that it perform better on x38 rather than p35 board...

Mr. AoiNatsume has a good chip...yes indeed n some more pair it with gigabyte mobo...i trust he will reach a good high clockable speed icon_idea.gif

I myself kind of in dilemma of this crap temperature reading...so i decide to wait for next bios update for this Biostar board...

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post Jan 30 2008, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(flatfinger @ Jan 30 2008, 02:46 PM)
forgive me for being the peace keeper sweat.gif
the E8400 will perform well if u plug in on a supported mobo...if im not mistaken..i have read somewhere that it perform better on x38 rather than p35 board...

Mr. AoiNatsume has a good chip...yes indeed n some more pair it with gigabyte mobo...i trust he will reach a good high clockable speed icon_idea.gif

I myself kind of in dilemma of this crap temperature reading...so i decide to wait for next bios update for this Biostar board...
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hmm the p35 do clock higher..

i know u, aiunatsume and me have this proc..

hmm one thing weird is his proc doesnt scale well after 3.8ghz..
thats not a good thing..

proc scaling with vcore determines a good proc... ...i wonder .. i know uve out of the seen a long time and just went to intel procs recently..
dont u know about scaling with vcore determines the proc??
ive seen ppl with 4ghz at 1.2v but to hit 4.2ghz they need 1.4v...

and dont blame malaysian mentality when somebody gives a baseless comment..
and a stupid remark y use everest cpuid..

hmm i am posting..
somebody here commenting..
geee quality degradation. here..
claims of under 11s at 4gz and changing the topic just shows useless comments are being made.... just like my maid that i fired with her signature rig below.. ekeke:P
especially after all this pages no post..

ok cut the chit chat..
POST dude..

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IMO...this babe wont give any prob under 4.0Ghz...but the challenge begin when going beyond 4.0Ghz...beside the crap temp....vdroop is the main thing to monitor when priming it to the stability...


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QUOTE(flatfinger @ Jan 30 2008, 03:04 PM)
IMO...this babe wont give any prob under 4.0Ghz...but the challenge begin when going beyond 4.0Ghz...beside the crap temp....vdroop is the main thing to monitor when priming it to the stability...
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hmm the maximus has no droop.
so far i have given up going above 500fsb..

will post the next 100mhz jump
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 30 2008, 02:14 PM)
Typical Malaysian = get upset when people give comments smile.gif

Well, I'm not being mean to anyone and I've no idea why you guys felt so. On the flip side, maybe we should start learning how to accept positive and constructive critism/opinions. Plus, retaliating with personal attacks doesn't show maturity.

Actually I can just disregard and let all of you continue your discussion but my main point is; let's just post one or two sensible screen shot of OC that will help others with their E8400 too smile.gif It's easier for people to refer as well (look at what other forums do). We're here to share and discuss, not to feel upset when someone disagrees. Sometimes there's no right or wrong so don't always think when someone says something against you, they are putting you at fault.

Last but not least, let's try to improve the quality of our posts in the forums.
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I couldn't agree with you more. I like to post all details of my OC instead of posting some vague OC settings..... a lot would just post "My proc can do 3.5Ghz at 1.35v, without indicating anything like where the 1.35v reading comes from, is it at full load, what is the bios setting, what is the vdrop/vdroop of the mobo, how's the stability, etc.....

The same thing with ram OC e.g. my ram can do 1200mhz.... which actually means nothing without the timings AND vdimm.....

It actually gives misinformation and confusion to our forumers....

And finally, like I always say, this is ONLY a forum...... why in the world would you get upset/distress/angry over a forum..... rclxub.gif

Edit : Please note this is directed at no one in particular... smile.gif

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jan 30 2008, 03:07 PM)
hmm the maximus has no droop.
so far i have given up going above 500fsb..

will post the next 100mhz jump
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gud for u then...this mean when u set the vcore in bios...it will give the same reading in window...and no vdroop when on load...ur E8400 will perform nice in low voltage....

in my case...my Biostar board voltage reading is not accurate...bios read different from window...and on load...the vdroop is 0.02v plus minus...which mean...if i wanna 1.35v...i have to set it higher abit 1.37v...so when vdroop...its down to 1.35v....

if some one had result under 11s of SP1M when this babe running at 4.0Ghz...do pls show some screenie... icon_question.gif

QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 30 2008, 03:09 PM)
I couldn't agree with you more. I like to post all details of my OC instead of posting some vague OC settings..... a lot would just post "My proc can  do 3.5Ghz at 1.35v, without indicating anything like where the 1.35v reading comes from, is it at full load, what is the bios setting, what is the vdrop/vdroop of the mobo, how's the stability, etc.....

The same thing with ram OC e.g. my ram can do 1200mhz.... which actually means nothing without the timings AND vdimm.....

It actually gives misinformation and confusion to our forumers....

And finally, like I always say, this is ONLY a forum...... why in the world would you get upset/distress/angry over a forum.....  rclxub.gif

Edit : Please note this is directed at no one in particular...  smile.gif
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yup...more screenie mean more info...
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post Jan 30 2008, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(flatfinger @ Jan 30 2008, 03:16 PM)
gud for u then...this mean when u set the vcore in bios...it will give the same reading in window...and no vdroop when on load...ur E8400 will perform nice in low voltage....

in my case...my Biostar board voltage reading is not accurate...bios read different from window...and on load...the vdroop is 0.02v plus minus...which mean...if i wanna 1.35v...i have to set it higher abit 1.37v...so when vdroop...its down to 1.35v....

if some one had result under 11s of SP1M when this babe running at 4.0Ghz...do pls show some screenie... icon_question.gif
yup...more screenie mean more info...
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set in bios and u get different is Bios Droop

Vdroop happens when u have a difference of load and idle

the Maximus has 0.01875v bios droop
and no Vdroop.

the problem is not to eliminate the bios droop
is to eliminate the Vdroop..

i can eliminate the bios droop via pencil mod.. but it means nothing..
just theoretical settings for a board that has unbelievable max voltages or everything.

okay found 4.1ghz.. and now running orthos prime priority 9..


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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jan 30 2008, 03:24 PM)
set in bios and u get different is Bios Droop

Vdroop happens when u have a difference of load and idle

the Maximus has 0.01875v bios droop
and no Vdroop.

the problem is not to eliminate the bios droop
is to eliminate the Vdroop..

i can eliminate the bios droop via pencil mod.. but it means nothing..
just theoretical settings for a board that has unbelievable max voltages or everything.

okay found 4.1ghz.. and now running orthos prime priority 9..
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the bios and windows giving different reading doesnt bother me much....the things is the vdroop of 0.02v on load is the "kacau" one sweat.gif ...if small or none...like u said the Maximus...should be very2x nice...

for Giga n Asus board atleast they hav reliable software...not for Biostar...totally crap...

go go 4.1Ghz rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(flatfinger @ Jan 30 2008, 03:33 PM)
the bios and windows giving different reading doesnt bother me much....the things is the vdroop of 0.02v on load is the "kacau" one sweat.gif ...if small or none...like u said the Maximus...should be very2x nice...

for Giga n Asus board atleast they hav reliable software...not for Biostar...totally crap...

go go 4.1Ghz rclxm9.gif
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gigabyte has vdroop.

as far as i know their x38 u need to do a vmod..
so kindda difficult..

the maximus bios load line calibration kills off vdroop.
but i did notice before the 0603 bios came out to make it work
that the pencil mod uses less vcore

hmm 4.1 at 1.328

dude trust me.. i know what i am talking about
this proc.. the GTL for NB makes a difference. on lowering the vcore cause most of the stability problem was caused by the cache...

thats the hard thing with this proc..
not to get the vcore stable
but to get the mem/nb stable.
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Thanks kmarc smile.gif

As for cstkl1, you can continue to feel upset and be defensive, I seriously can't help you on that. Plus, I don't lose anything if you want to do it this way. If it makes you feel better to come at me and be personal, by all means go ahead biggrin.gif It only shows to the rest of the people around here the type of person you are. Have fun and good luck.

flatfinger, more screenies can provide more info but we can include all those into one (Core Temp, CPU-Z, Orthos, 3dmark, etc). I can post a screenie everytime I manage to get Super PI completed after I OC but for others to refer and search back, it's a hassle and not to mention creates confusion. I know everyone is excited to share the good results (sharing is caring) but keeping the thread clean with good information would certainly help others too biggrin.gif Btw, how much Vcore do you need for 4Ghz?
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jan 30 2008, 03:45 PM)
gigabyte has vdroop.

as far as i know their x38 u need to do a vmod..
so kindda difficult..

the maximus bios load line calibration kills off vdroop.
but i did notice before the 0603 bios came out to make it work
that the pencil mod uses less vcore

hmm 4.1 at 1.328

dude trust me.. i know what i am talking about
this proc.. the GTL for NB makes a difference. on lowering the vcore cause most of the stability problem was caused by the cache...

thats the hard thing with this proc..
not to get the vcore stable
but to get the mem/nb stable.
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like i said before...this babe will unleash her true skin if pairing with a gud board that hav gud bios...gud ram oso la...need a 1000Mhz to run 1:1...hehehe brows.gif



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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 30 2008, 03:54 PM)
Thanks kmarc smile.gif

As for cstkl1, you can continue to feel upset and be defensive, I seriously can't help you on that. Plus, I don't lose anything if you want to do it this way. If it makes you feel better to come at me and be personal, by all means go ahead biggrin.gif It only shows to the rest of the people around here the type of person you are. Have fun and good luck.

flatfinger, more screenies can provide more info but we can include all those into one (Core Temp, CPU-Z, Orthos, 3dmark, etc). I can post a screenie everytime I manage to get Super PI completed after I OC but for others to refer and search back, it's a hassle and not to mention creates confusion. I know everyone is excited to share the good results (sharing is caring) but keeping the thread clean with good information would certainly help others too biggrin.gif Btw, how much Vcore do you need for 4Ghz?
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dude
i aint attacking u for anything
u just stated something that was impossible..... thats what irritated me..
cause before that all ure questions were legitimate.

after that claim of 4ghz at less than 11sec..

it proves 2 things.
1. u dont have the proc.
2. ure dwindling with excuses.

hence i asked for a screenshot.
just post that...

i am posting screenshots.
heck so far on this thread i am 4ghz proven stable.

Added on January 30, 2008, 4:03 pm
QUOTE(flatfinger @ Jan 30 2008, 03:59 PM)
like i said before...this babe will unleash her true skin if pairing with a gud board that hav gud bios...gud ram oso la...need a 1000Mhz to run 1:1...hehehe brows.gif
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best ram and often understated for that is the OCZ titanium alpha VX2

heck the sub timings are very tight...

so far so good
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START - TOTALLY OFF TOPIC

I'm sorry guys but I have to respond since he's directing to me biggrin.gif

In fact I don't mind if you attack, insult or flame me. As I say, I don't lose anything but you're just opening up and showing others what kind of person you are. Besides, you're doing it to almost everyone and have no respect for Bryan, Kucingfight, etc (I searched your posts and read some of them) smile.gif

Let's not continue here and if you have issues, do it via PM and involve a moderator or admin. Don't do this for me but for the sake of everyone else in LY.net because this is a Pennryn thread.

END - TOTALLY OFF TOPIC
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 30 2008, 03:54 PM)
flatfinger, more screenies can provide more info but we can include all those into one (Core Temp, CPU-Z, Orthos, 3dmark, etc). I can post a screenie everytime I manage to get Super PI completed after I OC but for others to refer and search back, it's a hassle and not to mention creates confusion. I know everyone is excited to share the good results (sharing is caring) but keeping the thread clean with good information would certainly help others too biggrin.gif Btw, how much Vcore do you need for 4Ghz?
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to boot @4.0Ghz...bios need to set 1.32v...but it will not stable due to vdroop if priming...so i need to feed 1.37v in bios...window read 1.39v...on priming the vdroop of 0.02v...make it back at 1.37v...i try priming only 15 minute coz the weird temperature reading bother me much...priming reach 75' on water cooler... sweat.gif ...so i didnt continue...waiting next bios update hopefully solve this problem...
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 30 2008, 04:06 PM)
START - TOTALLY OFF TOPIC

I'm sorry guys but I have to respond since he's directing to me biggrin.gif

In fact I don't mind if you attack, insult or flame me. As I say, I don't lose anything but you're just opening up and showing others what kind of person you are. Besides, you're doing it to almost everyone and have no respect for Bryan, Kucingfight, etc (I searched your posts and read some of them) smile.gif

Let's not continue here and if you have issues, do it via PM and involve a moderator or admin. Don't do this for me but for the sake of everyone else in LY.net because this is a Pennryn thread.

END - TOTALLY OFF TOPIC
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dude
what the hell
i am just asking
do u have a 4ghz sp1m less than 11sec proc.??if so post the screenshot.. whats the big deal.

ure keep changing topic.. while i am still talking about the proc and u are not obviously

a reply to your off topic remark.
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okay let me edit everything i said ..

base settings used on maximus if u must know

taken from XS bios setting template for maximus

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flatfinger, same with mine. I need around that voltage to get it stable at 4Ghz smile.gif I'm suprised some E8400 can do superbly at lower voltages. Someone in Xtreme forums had the same batch as mine and his is a super overclockable chip.

One thing for sure is all of them can easily boot up and Super PI in Windows at high clock speed biggrin.gif
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