QUOTE(Liontamer @ Oct 13 2008, 02:51 PM)
my advice is just stick tp tropical species loike elongated opr red footed. star, pancake, radiated, sulcate etc will surely die in our humidity over time. Donty trust all the lies by the pet shop or sellers as they just want to offlead their stock. When u buy these s\desert tortoise like star etc you're just putting them in misery, then they become sluggish, get RNS and die. Even the big ones will die....
sorry bro, you might have good intentions but your statement is tad too incorrect and bordering on bias. you are basically pointing out that all those tortoises will surely die in our climate, a statement which is wrong wrong wrong.
none of those species you mentioned are DESERT tortoises (research more). besides radiated are practically super adaptable that only the worst husbandry would kill them. sulcata are tough SOBS (even old couple in cold French mountainside could raise it). star and pancake are harder, but all can be acclimatised with proper husbandry, although not recommended for beginner.
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.... cos theyre just wild caught, then smuggled here into an alien climate, bacteria etc, not to mention stress during the journey. if the seller says that he has kept a star for a long time then show photographic and actual animal proof of husbandry over the years , size, diet, growth, medication etc. i bet most of them unscrupulous conmen cant even do that.
i partly agree with this part, and yeah many conmen but they could only trick impulse buyers who hadn't done any prior research. and you must've heard of CB specimens, haven't you?