dun blame the gender, blame the situation and enviroment. And any gender will hop into this kind of situation, consequence no 1 will knows. I see myself a good person, but doesnt mean I wont do mistake. Then, in the end of the days we all will understand what is wrong and what is the cause, base on different person, no matter how suck is the person, he will sure know him/herself. What is their mistake, they know but if they dun change is like think without action.

So dun be lesbian, have faith on guys. Without a million fail u wont understand how sweet is the success. I know, cause I fail alot of times.

I guess im just gonna do what have you done.Study hard now,be financially stable before i start a serious relationship.

No point starting a shaky relationship(since it's a 4 year distance relationship) now and regret later.Am i right?

She does seem to be waiting and hinting me for a long time,at least 2 years adi.

I think i dont really know what to do. Half of me say go after her,and half of me say dont.My friends also say go after her.

@TS,

Im just gonna say,i really admire your loyalty to your bf,despite all shit he did to you.

Good luck.

hehe let's achieve our goals first shall we?

for me it's ok to start a shaky relationship, as we learn differently when we in a relationship. however as young guts which has nothing in life, we must remember to NEVER put ur gf into consideration when u r deciding ur own future, or a greater regret will comes later

a good example will be many couples tend to give up their dream eg working overseas, hence they end up loosing a great chance in learning n building up themselves, as the commitment to always stay together, or scaring of losing each other

end up the male struggle a lot locally and cannot give a better environment for his partner and own family, hence unforeseeable problems occurs due to the financial reasons - eg cant give a more comfort environment to the family, cant afford the children to study a better college/university etc

if the guys were trying their best to achieve stable financial 1st which until around late 20s or early 30s, these problems can be solved. unless u r really genius in making money or ur parent has big gold mountain, then u r more than welcome to marry early, but as an average person, whats the chance of success?

cheesenium, if u r goin into the relationship, u may let the gals know ur ambition and situation, and tell her she is free to find a better man before u r financially stable

Dear all,

Thx against for all the msg n comments.. i do go n read n repeat it again for few times.. i really appreciate it.. i do think of revenge but i canceled tis plan after one of my strange but at the same time a close (like known for long time ago) fren too hv knocked my head.. so wat i can do now is juz playing my role at the best.. at least if any sh*t happened in coming time i wont regret bcoz i hv done my part.. of coz i wil live for myself.. start to gain weight n my health, back to my job train which i hv missed it for few weeks (sorry to my boss n colleagues), start money saving, start make up n make myself prettier, treating myself better, seek for happier, n etc. My love to myself will increasing from day to day n same to my family too.


Dear feyhime, (hope i didnt type wrongly ur nickname)
thx for your words.. well it is hurt bcoz it is too straight forward but I LOVE IT.. n i understand well ur points.. i always likes to having fren tat can talk "straight forward" rather than bring me round n round.. n of coz i m one of "bad person" too.. always my words hurting others.. ur words hv make my eyes n heart open up widely @.@

Dear paranoid,
the "guys" i meant in my previous post to wtm0325 is mean men.. hope u didnt get wrong my msg.. i always treat everyone here as my good adviser n listener tat's y i always back here to update my stuff.. bcoz i know sure hv someone wil read n might reply to me.. at least someone is reading.. i can feel someone(s) is there for me n i m not alone here..

Dear 7chai & wtm0325,
sorry for putting the gender thing here.. mayb i hv listened to too many bad guy's case.. n take a look at all the guys surrounding me i really "no eyes" to see.. maybe i hvnt meet a good guy yet (Oops beside my bro ) so it make me think bad.. anyway, everyone wil make mistake the most important thing is they will grow from tat mistake.. learn it n keep it as a lesson.. n it's not other way around by keep on thinking the mistake is caused by other o non-stop giving excuses to urself.. so i m here sincerely seeking apologize for the "gender" thing..

7chai: dun worry.. i wont change my taste.. i believe they r still a better guy waiting for me..

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Added on January 21, 2008, 10:07 pmi always believe behind a successful men there is always hv a girl.. n yes every guy should let their gals understand well their ambition n situation if the gals cant cope wif it then she should let go.. n i do agree guys should always make their career their 1st priority.. but at the same time dont forget ur love 1: partner, family n fren.. when u can control well ur own timing then it's the 1st stage of being a successful men..

anyway sometimes gal jus like a little kid wil manja around n try to get ur attention but most of the times hv using the wrong way.. so a gentle remind wil help to solve up this problem..



This post has been edited by @lice~~: Jan 21 2008, 10:07 PM

@lice~~, well it's fine, nothing is serious for the gender thing, even so i admit it's my wrong for treating my ex like tht, but heck it's a good thing for both of us, she found a better guy and i'm working on my own way

loving doesn't mean owing, i feel happier too when i saw she is a lot happier now

and guess wat, when i'm single i found an interesting thing my love luck is increasing muahahahhahaha this has been proven true as when u r single, u seek to enjoy and live ur true self, and becoz of this u indirectly attract more admirers, rather than purposely go for a relation and behave in ur love's one way

good luck and all the best

@wtm0325,

Thanks a lot for your advise.Seems like i have been doing the right thing.I have pick my uni based on quality of education and reputation,instead of friends or that girl.Now,im just gonna study real hard and get financially stable before i have a serious relationship.

About that girl,i just gonna say:screw her.Tried to call her out a few times and she always say cannot.Work,go shopping with family and other reasons.Now,she dont even reply my messages.I think i can forget about starting a relationship with her and her.

Sometime,i just dont understand how girl's mind work.

@@lice~~,

Really sorry for hijacking your thread for my own rantings.It's hard to find threads like this in LYN.

Alice ,glad that you're really able to think straight. Loved it when you mentioned his lame excuses. Some girls think it is the end of the world. You are so unlike them! Awesome!

and Mr Cheese,
If you try to UNDERSTAND a girl's mind, you'll lose your own. Just love them. They never operate on the same level as we do. It would be best if we didn't start imagining ourselves in their shoes (probably very lethal back-breaking 3-inch heels).

@lice~~
I am glad it you are okay now or at the very least, better. If you need to talk you can always PM me. Of course if you don't mind my .. err straight forward way Oh and don't bother on revenge. It waste way too much time, oxygen and effort. He's simply not worth anymore of your attention (good or bad). Go enjoy your life and live for yourself. After all, we must love ourselves before we can love others.

Cheesenium
Sometimes it's not about understanding a girl (I am a girl and I don't understand them). It's about looking at the situation and understanding how things work. Often people who are too blinded by love and affections fails to look into the most logical thing, even if it's right in front of their eyes. The logic is really simple, when someone starts avoiding you at great length (guy or girl) chances are, they don't want to be with you. Simple as that. You can try convincing them, but if they are adamant, then it's time to move on. You can blame them for being hard to understand or even convince yourself she's playing hard to get, anything, but it's not going to change anything.

(p/s: I personally find it annoying to avoid people who are chasing after you just because you don't want to recuperate their feeling. Just tell them already, it's so much more efficient! He won't bug you any longer and you don't have to get fed up of him not getting your signal right.)

Yeah,they arent machines or something.

You got a point.I guess i'll just move on now.She is avoiding me and i dont feel much about her now.

Yeah,it's annoying to avoid people.What i find that is even more annoying is the person tries chase you but avoids you when you try to chase them back.

That really made me say:WTF.

im not worried, i mean im explaining what is actually happening, from past till now, from now to future.

as well, i wont worry for a person I dunno in real life.

I'm a guy and I don't want my gal to be too close to any guy.
More less let her went out with any male friend.

Me a jealousy person.
Don't like it? I'll look for another gf

well.. jealous can be kinda cute sometimes..
but not too controlling of course

i got a feeling Raikkonen is a control freak

It's either she's his bestie, or like scandal la.
Either way, I hate it when I'm the second one to know about things.
If I was his gf, I should be the first to know, shouldn't I?

Try to talk it out with your boyfie
Maybe he has something to say.. (and u might not like it)

it's ok.. it's about sharing..

no need to understand how's a girl's mind work bcoz sometime ourselves also can't answer it.. even girl can't understand girl too.. what u need to know is how much effort you have put in n are you doing your best? if your answer is yes to all this question then u no need to worry anymore because u hv tried ur best n done all u need to do.. it's her lost not urs.. both of u just not meet at the right time..

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Added on January 22, 2008, 3:05 pmDun say tat later others jealous



This post has been edited by @lice~~: Jan 22 2008, 03:05 PM

Im also a jealousy person.I dun like other guys get too close with my girl.

Huh?Jealous can be cute?

Tried my best but it still end up like that.I guess fate isnt on our side.It does feels like things between me and her just always happen at the wrong place and wrong time.

She is a nice person.Attitude is good,looks beautiful without looking like a slut,caring,supportive.She is that kind of person i want to have as my partner for rest of my life.

I'll stop ranting now.It's over now.

Now im jealous.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Jan 22 2008, 10:34 PM

In base case scenario, you would always be the second to know.

Yes, as a partner we always expect to be the 1st one know abt everything happening on him.. but reality is always too cruel.. n i think it depend on personal character.. like me i m not a easy give up person n always wan to know everything in details n deeply.. so it's hard for me not to know it as i knew it's very hurt n cruel but i still prefer do know it..

LOL I don't understand why precedence is so important. For me, it's either I let someone knows or don't. Who comes first really matter?

This post has been edited by davidletterboyz: Jan 23 2008, 10:11 PM

The point of being in a relationship is to share your life (to a certain extent). What's the point of having a significant other when he/she is not the first person you share your life with? It does not make them any different from having a friend, wouldn't it? If so, why set into a relationship?