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SUSDavid83
post Jan 27 2008, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(hye @ Jan 27 2008, 08:31 AM)
More like a new application. I doubt  you can just change the type of card upon request. They'll ask you to cancel and apply for a new one.
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Perhaps he can just add it on top of his current MBB Classic.

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post Jan 27 2008, 08:40 AM

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Easy credit, easy spending

KUALA LUMPUR: The credit card war among banks has created easy access to credit and as a result more and more people are being trapped in a "credit web".

A Finance Ministry official says the number of those who only manage to pay the minimum 5% of their outstanding balance has increased significantly beyond last year's statistics of 40% of the 8.8 million credit card holders.

Despite the Government's reminders to be more selective in issuing credit cards, banks have instead become more aggressive in signing up more clients.

And they are coming out with "innovative" ways of getting new clients. Among these are free gifts to those who sign up; "mandatory" credit cards for purchasers of certain car models; and a cheque for a sum of money in one's name. In other instances, gold cardholders are given a status boost with platinum cards and higher credit limits.

The reason is simple - credit cards offer the most lucrative form of business to banks, with an interest fixed at 18% per annum.

And it's simple arithmetic - the less one pays of the outstanding credit balance, the more money a bank makes.

Many credit card holders face credit that has snowballed to an uncontrollable amount, resulting in their not being able to service the debt at all.

The Treasury intervened last year when it was revealed that credit card defaulters accounted for RM700mil of the RM18.6bil in non-performing loans.

"Many credit card holder pay only the minimum 5% of their monthly balances. This means they have to pay a 1.5 % monthly interest on the remaining balance and this can cause the outstanding figure to balloon," said a senior Treasury official.

Last year, Bank Negara deputy governor Datuk Mohd Razif Abdul Kadir asked banks to study spending trends that showed early signs of financial mismanagement to put the lid on spiralling bad debts.

He proposed that such cardholders be referred to the Credit Counselling and Debt Management Agency for counselling.

So why have banks not acted to stem the credit tide? The answer is becoming clearer as credit card debts continue to mount.

The Treasury official, who was asked the question, had this to say:

"There are already complaints of too many regulations in the banking industry. We must remember that this is a free market.

"It is also the cardholder's responsibility to handle his finances properly. Banks can give you 100 credit cards for all they want. Ultimately it is the credit cardholder who must be disciplined and responsible with his expenditure."

Drawing an analogy on the dangers of smoking, the official said: "Cigarettes are on sale everywhere. Does that mean that everybody will become a smoker? Does it mean that the sale of cigarettes be banned?"

URL: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...=nation&focus=1
SUSDavid83
post Jan 27 2008, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(Chester @ Jan 27 2008, 08:53 AM)
Already have RM600 outstanding balance, overspent sad.gif
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My outstanding is double yours. Still waiting if the balance transfer is successful. If not, need to settle in full by 7 February.
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post Jan 27 2008, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(hye @ Jan 27 2008, 09:11 AM)
I agree credit card requires a high degree of discipline when using it but hope the government won't introduce new regulations to limit credit card usage like what they did circa year 2000. Back then each card need to pay RM50 government fee.
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One-time fee or something like annual fee?
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post Jan 27 2008, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(hye @ Jan 27 2008, 09:19 AM)
It's an annual fee on top of your credit card annual fees. I remember some banks back then offer to pay the government fee as part of the credit card promotion.
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Can I get waiver for that? brows.gif Kidding ...

RM 50 + annual fee ... OMG!
SUSDavid83
post Jan 27 2008, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Jan 27 2008, 11:54 AM)
no chance to try the DA Paypass yet.
hardly come accross got paypass payment le...

free gift? no le...

even the internet pin also not yet....  vmad.gif  vmad.gif
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I also haven't receive my PIN yet. WTH! They said already sent out.

QUOTE(ronnie @ Jan 27 2008, 12:50 PM)
PayPass is available at KFC and MPH bookstores.
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No chance to try Paypass at KFC yet. I still got some KFC vouchers.
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post Jan 27 2008, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(Chester @ Jan 27 2008, 02:24 PM)
David,

Pingen is every tue and friday. Im sure they generated it already  icon_idea.gif
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You work with CIMB or DA? How you know it?

They said my PIN has been generated but yet I still haven't receive it.
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post Jan 27 2008, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(Chester @ Jan 27 2008, 02:36 PM)
CIMB and DA card pingen are generated on the same day at the same place..
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So any idea why they terminate Flexi Plan, Flexi Plan Plus and Balance Transfer?
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post Jan 28 2008, 05:58 PM

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I feel a little frusted as I would like to get an explaination on how Maybank derived the figures as advertised at the bank of their printed statement. Refer to the attachment below:

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What I would like to know, let's take RM 500 outstanding amount for retail purchase as an example.

From the first table, it's said that you'll be only charged for RM 2.22 after make a minimum payment for a repayment period of 1 month. Using the usual 1.5% p.m. or 18% p.a. rate, for a RM 500 outstanding amount, it should give your RM 7.50. I have asked the bank staff and the CSE at the card centre. None of them could explain. Does Maybank is trying to cheat the card holders by advertising a misleading figures?

Anybody could enlighten me? Appreciate your knowledge. Thank you.

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post Jan 28 2008, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(guanteik @ Jan 28 2008, 06:16 PM)
I notice that too...
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They were still insisting that the financial charge will be based on 1.5% p.m. or 18% p.a. rate. I asked them to refer to the table 1. They were so puzzled and couldn't explain further.
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post Jan 28 2008, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(neoxz @ Jan 28 2008, 07:17 PM)
Guys, can i apply a cc without a payslip? Just graduated, but I've got the offer letter already tongue.gif
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I think you need to have at least one month payslip instead of the usual 3 months.
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post Jan 28 2008, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Jan 28 2008, 10:16 PM)
anyone here using Mastercard? Can you see the back of your card...is there a Cirrus logo? My RHB card doesn't have it...
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Yes there's. I have checked on my CIMB DA MC and HSBC MC.
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post Jan 29 2008, 06:35 PM

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The new Petronas Maybankard Visa! The fastest way to earn FREE petrol!

http://www.maybank2u.com.my/consumer/onlin...nas/about.shtml
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post Jan 29 2008, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(tiger63 @ Jan 29 2008, 07:39 PM)
I am going to apply for the Petronas Maybankard Visa tomorrow!!!  Woohoo
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It's a great deal if you're a heavy Petronas user. 5x Treat Points for fuel refill purchase at Petronas and it's Free For Life card with no condition. It equips with Visa Wave too.
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post Jan 29 2008, 08:47 PM

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CIMB has a quite similar offering with Petronas:

CIMB PETRONAS MasterCard

http://www.cimbbank.com.my/index.php?ch=su...7&tpt=cimb_bank
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post Jan 29 2008, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Jan 29 2008, 09:19 PM)
WOW cool im going to get the Maybank one...
And it says FREE FOR LIFE (with 2x swipe each month i bet)
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I thought it stated free for life without any condition. Did I misread? I confirmed it with CSE too.
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post Jan 29 2008, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Jan 29 2008, 09:40 PM)
Cool then ima getting one
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I'm going to apply one too. Too bad that they don't have an online application for this card.
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post Jan 30 2008, 11:03 AM

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There's no card conversion. You need to reapply.
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post Jan 30 2008, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(g00glesYYl @ Jan 30 2008, 12:20 PM)
if comparing the CIMB and maybank petronas card...
maybank is more attractive~~

edited: hi Robyn, what free gift you giv?  biggrin.gif
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Definitely Maybank Petronas card is more attractive.
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post Jan 30 2008, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(g00glesYYl @ Jan 30 2008, 12:36 PM)
But, if i am not mistaken,

maybank is treatpoint for redemption (5X more for until end of month only)
cimb is cash rebate?
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This 5x Treat Points is only available for any purchases made at Petronas with this Petronas card. The promotion starts from 1st February to 31st July 2008.

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