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 Investing in US stocks, Does anyone know how?

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zamans98
post Aug 28 2009, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(GHz @ Aug 28 2009, 07:01 PM)
MBTrading so good to have this feature. If I open account without deposit any money, are they allowed that?
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i believe they allow, but not entirely sure. Because I already have a FOREX account with them.




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post Aug 28 2009, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(GHz @ Aug 28 2009, 04:14 PM)
Anyone here do option trading? Seem interesting.
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I'm trading options here. Just pick your favourite stocks and trade calendar spread options.
Less risk and importantly, is using small capital to trade big stocks. Small knife cut big tree biggrin.gif
(Note: options trading involved high risks)

QUOTE(GHz @ Aug 28 2009, 06:49 PM)
my fund just credited, i thought to buy today.  cry.gif

By the way, how to see pre-market
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OptionsXpress also provide pre-market quote.
And you can trade during after-market and pre-market hour. smile.gif


Added on August 28, 2009, 10:25 pm
QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 28 2009, 08:59 PM)
i believe they allow, but not entirely sure. Because I already have a FOREX account with them.
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Nice selection of stock watch there..hehe. brows.gif
Especially LVS..kinda tempting to look into its option chains. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(sam03antha @ Aug 28 2009, 11:17 AM)
KLSE is a suck, so disappointed!i wanna buy Genting S'pore stock, what's the procedure ?need to open a foreign acct from bank 1st??
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i dun wat broker firm are u using but i with OSK need to open a foreign currency trust account... no charge... just sign nod.gif

buy in MY currency prior to the day exchange rate but sell in SG currency...
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post Aug 29 2009, 12:02 AM

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I won't recommend Options Trading for newbie. It is very risky and can self-implode or explode. tongue.gif




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post Aug 29 2009, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 29 2009, 12:02 AM)
I won't recommend Options Trading for newbie. It is very risky and can self-implode or explode.  tongue.gif
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thanks for the advice.
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post Aug 29 2009, 01:27 AM

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It been 8days the US market keep going up.
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post Aug 29 2009, 02:17 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 29 2009, 01:27 AM)
It been 8days the US market keep going up.
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do you expect correction soon?
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post Aug 29 2009, 05:51 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 29 2009, 01:27 AM)
It been 8days the US market keep going up.
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Scratch out 5 days.. because this week is a wash.. we ended up where we started.
Next week.. September! brows.gif
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post Aug 29 2009, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 29 2009, 05:51 AM)
Scratch out 5 days.. because this week is a wash.. we ended up where we started.
Next week.. September!  brows.gif
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DMC, based on your remarks above -> seem very suspicious and i decide to check on it
Here is what i found out:

After putting yesterday’s The Best and Worst Months for the S&P 500 Index (1926 – 2007) post together, I decided to take a closer look at the month of September. Here’s what I found out.
It’s typically a bad month for stocks – or at least the S&P 500 Index. Take a look at the following graphic which looks at September’s return from 1926 – 2006:
http://allfinancialmatters.com/2007/09/06/...nth-for-stocks/

And i've shorted ..hehe cool2.gif
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post Aug 29 2009, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Aug 29 2009, 08:07 AM)
DMC, based on your remarks above -> seem very suspicious and i decide to check on it
Here is what i found out:

After putting yesterday’s The Best and Worst Months for the S&P 500 Index (1926 – 2007) post together, I decided to take a closer look at the month of September. Here’s what I found out.
It’s typically a bad month for stocks – or at least the S&P 500 Index. Take a look at the following graphic which looks at September’s return from 1926 – 2006:
http://allfinancialmatters.com/2007/09/06/...nth-for-stocks/

And i've shorted ..hehe  cool2.gif
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Puts options in place? tongue.gif

Yeah, the bulls getting tired and weary. All we need is some bad news around the corner (which is slowly already building with warning signs but market been ignoring) and this could roll over. nod.gif





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post Aug 29 2009, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(GHz @ Aug 29 2009, 02:17 AM)
do you expect correction soon?
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I really don't know. hmm.gif I m just a beginner. Yesterday my sifu said it is up trend and buy what you can and lock it up. I m in for long.
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post Aug 29 2009, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 29 2009, 09:43 AM)
I really don't know.  hmm.gif I m just a beginner. Yesterday my sifu said it is up trend and buy what you can and lock it up. I m in for long.
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When the institutional traders return next week from holidays, they'll look at all the bad news and will probably start off the sell off. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 29 2009, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 29 2009, 08:46 AM)
Puts options in place?  tongue.gif

Yeah, the bulls getting tired and weary. All we need is some bad news around the corner (which is slowly already building with warning signs but market been ignoring) and this could roll over.   nod.gif
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Yup. Has placed my put options.
Dow has been extremely OB and congesting over OB area. Sooner or later it will drop to OS region before resuming uptrend.
So prepared for roller coaster ride in September.
Market will celebrate Lehman Brother's bankruptcy anniversary by plunging down biggrin.gif

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post Aug 29 2009, 08:49 PM

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hope anyone can help me understand this...i am new to stock market...many stock have after-hour quote,so when we buy or sell according to it or depends o within hours??also about the bid and ask price,lets say the bid price is 13,the ask price is 14,so if i wan to buy,what figure should i put in the order?if i wan to sell what is the price i should put?what is the use of bidxask size?i also feel that the real time quote is not the same with my online broker and google finance,although it is not vary much.which one to use?..
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QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Aug 29 2009, 08:15 PM)
Yup. Has placed my put options.
Dow has been extremely OB and congesting over OB area. Sooner or later it will drop to OS region before resuming uptrend.
So prepared for roller coaster ride in September.
Market will celebrate Lehman Brother's bankruptcy anniversary by plunging down biggrin.gif
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Ha! Lehman bankruptcy celebration.. revisiting another 20% plunge.. tongue.gif
Oh well. I'll be happy to see 1/2 of that pull back because of this over eating by Dow.

Dow has been trying hit against 9600 multiple times, every time it touched or crossed over a bit, people sell.
Same for S&P hitting the ceiling at 1030 and Oil @ 75 max.

Everybody on the street agreed that Dow already overbought by 10%-15%.

A lot of those Q2 earnings aren't from consumer demands but from inventory reduction and government spending. Consumers demand remains very weak and govt spending will subside, resulting no more growth.

By end of September, we should see if some companies would issue early "warnings" or revised earning projection.
If "warnings" come early, definitely people will sell off early. tongue.gif


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QUOTE(kelynn0713 @ Aug 29 2009, 08:49 PM)
hope anyone can help me understand this...i am new to stock market...many stock have after-hour quote,so when we buy or sell according to it or depends o within hours??also about the bid and ask price,lets say the bid price is 13,the ask price is 14,so if i wan to buy,what figure should i put in the order?if i wan to sell what is the price i should put?what is the use of bidxask size?i also feel that the real time quote is not the same with my online broker and google finance,although it is not vary much.which one to use?..
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After hours trading can be quirky at best.. and doesn't reflect real-demand supply. Bid is the buyer price, Ask is the seller price. If they match, then the order is executed. You can trade after hours (or premarket) if your broker allows it no guarantee on execution. If you want to sell, you can put the price that you are willing match the buyer price or you can put higher and see if there are willing buyers to match your selling price before extended hours end. Always use limit orders. Always use your online broker for real time quotes. AFAIK, both Google and Yahoo only display execution price, not the bid/ask.

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 29 2009, 11:09 AM)
When the institutional traders return next week from holidays, they'll look at all the bad news and will probably start off the sell off.  biggrin.gif
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I see my sifu report. There is alot of positive sign of recovery. Maybe some mini correction. hmm.gif
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post Aug 30 2009, 09:18 AM

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20% abit too much. I'm targeting 6-8% also enough already.
I believe 8800 - 9000 range is strong support. Every one will buy because economy is recovering.
Overall i'm still bull. It's just that market need to have healthy trend by correcting itself before resuming uptrend. smile.gif
Everytime DOW reach new high, there will be seller on top of it pushing it downwards. So the bull don't have much momentum left to continue the uptrend.

Today news: U.S. Regulators Shut Down Three Failing Banks, Pushing 2009 Total to 84
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=206...id=aSdMMGzkt1do
Seem every weekend there is some banks closed by US regulators. Economy is not fully recover yet.

kelynn0713: US market are quite volatile compared to KLSE. I advise better to trade in KLSE first before moving to US market.
Get familiar with trading stocks in KLSE. The movement is slow yet stable. It will be good starting point for newbie cool2.gif
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QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Aug 30 2009, 09:18 AM)
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Today news: U.S. Regulators Shut Down Three Failing Banks, Pushing 2009 Total to 84
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=206...id=aSdMMGzkt1do
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Seem every weekend there is some banks closed by US regulators. Economy is not fully recover yet.
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Definitely.. more and more banks are going under. There are already prediction next year.. 200+ more to collapse.
US FDIC already run out of insurance money. This is going to be nasty. nod.gif
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 30 2009, 09:36 AM)
Definitely.. more and more banks are going under. There are already prediction next year.. 200+ more to collapse.
US FDIC already run out of insurance money. This is going to be nasty.  nod.gif
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wa lao..200++. Won't it be too exaggerated? lolz.
Lets hope on Monday, Dow will collapse and I will collect profits from shorts..hehe icon_idea.gif
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[quote=dreams_achiever,Aug 28 2009, 10:24 PM]
I'm trading options here. Just pick your favourite stocks and trade calendar spread options.
Less risk and importantly, is using small capital to trade big stocks. Small knife cut big tree biggrin.gif
(Note: options trading involved high risks)
OptionsXpress also provide pre-market quote.
And you can trade during after-market and pre-market hour. smile.gif

Hello,

about your options trading. what are the tools (TA) that you are using ? i am now learning the put and call, but i am still uncertain about the TA to use. for example, the trainer needs us to complete the exercise berfore going in, and the 9 TAs include - BB, MACD, SMA, EMA, PAR SAR, OS, etc etc, and after this, i have to fill in a technical form that includes - Target Price, Entry Price, Stop Loss, Profit/Loss, Intrinsic Value ...

may i know what tools you use? thanks pal.


Added on August 30, 2009, 11:55 amAnother question i wish to ask please: -

i am opening an account for options trading, but it seems that the Op.....xpress needs my passport but mine has long expired. any solutions or other reliable companies that i can open an account for US trades?

thank you.


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