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jactval
post Mar 9 2008, 01:48 PM

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BTW, does the OBU degree qualification can be equivalent to local university degree?
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QUOTE(jactval @ Mar 9 2008, 01:48 PM)
BTW, does the OBU degree qualification can be equivalent to local university degree?
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LAst time, I ask my lecturer B$, the answer is "NO!! " from Malaysia JPA system.

However, I heard that Big4 is trying to recognise it as DEGREE, but not yet.
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post Mar 9 2008, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(moon yuen @ Mar 9 2008, 03:08 PM)
LAst time, I ask my lecturer B$, the answer is "NO!! " from Malaysia JPA system.

However, I heard that Big4 is trying to recognise it as DEGREE, but not yet.
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You mean from the point of Big 4, OBU degree is not a degree at all??????

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moon yuen
post Mar 9 2008, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(jactval @ Mar 9 2008, 03:13 PM)
You mean from the point of Big 4, OBU degree is not a degree at all??????

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Just imagine ACCA graduate = Degree pay . (Yup, ACCA only same payt wit Degree)

If BIG4 recognise OBU Degree same like LOCAL UNiversity Degree pay, HOW can those ACCA graduate satisfied ?? (unless Big4 willing to pay ACCA graduate higher tongue.gif )

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post Mar 9 2008, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(moon yuen @ Mar 9 2008, 04:04 PM)
Just imagine ACCA graduate = Degree pay . (Yup, ACCA only same payt wit Degree)

If BIG4 recognise OBU Degree same like LOCAL UNiversity Degree pay, HOW can those ACCA graduate satisfied ?? (unless Big4 willing to pay ACCA graduate higher tongue.gif )
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For those who complete ACCA only get the same pay as degree holders? Is there any misunderstanding? hmm.gif

Facts needed. Thank you. smile.gif
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post Mar 9 2008, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(jactval @ Mar 9 2008, 04:40 PM)
For those who complete ACCA only get the same pay as degree holders? Is there any misunderstanding? hmm.gif

Facts needed. Thank you. smile.gif
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really?

not ACCA is higher than those local university degree?

need ur explanation
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post Mar 9 2008, 07:45 PM

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I'm not too sure,I think the startin pay is roughly the same.But seriously,it's just the starting pay.Look ahead,try relying more on performance than qualification sweat.gif
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post Mar 9 2008, 08:42 PM

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OBU degree/ACCA grad/Local degree=SAME STARTING PAY

This is what u guys mean?
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post Mar 9 2008, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(kelvinlee1983 @ Mar 9 2008, 04:50 PM)
really?

not ACCA is higher than those local university degree?

need ur explanation
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100 % confirm !!

My dad is working in one of the BIG4 as HR Manager...

JUst imagine, some ACCA graduate is just 19 years old, 20 years old. (normally , Sunway student)
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QUOTE(jactval @ Mar 9 2008, 08:42 PM)
OBU degree/ACCA grad/Local degree=SAME STARTING PAY

This is what u guys mean?
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Probably yes to acca/degree,but I don't think OBU
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post Mar 9 2008, 09:22 PM

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I guess there must be something better/more advantages for ACCA graduate than local uni degree gua? If not, why still so many ACCA students are striving so hard instead of obtain a local accounting degree.

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post Mar 9 2008, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(moon yuen @ Mar 9 2008, 08:46 PM)
100 % confirm !!

My dad is working in one of the BIG4 as HR Manager...

JUst imagine, some ACCA graduate is just 19 years old, 20 years old. (normally , Sunway student)
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that means ACCA student = local university student?

this is fair ?
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post Mar 9 2008, 09:56 PM

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yeah...local accounting degree pay=OBU degree pay=ACCA grad's pay
Some of the Big4 is not recognising OBU yet. For EY n KPMG they do recognise OBU..I am not sure for PWC n Delloite though...

Being an ACCA does have it advantages compared to local degrees as with ACCA you can work world wide as it is recognised internationally. In the long term, when you can in a higher position, u may be required to have a professional qualification other than ur degree.

Imagine an employer has to choose between a local degree grad with an ACCA grad, who do u think will stand a better chance? Thru some of the feedbacks i got from employers, they are more willing to hire ACCA grads as their knowledge is much better than those with degree..
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post Mar 9 2008, 09:57 PM

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May i ask,

is it the sooner u finish the 14-paper exam,the more capable u r?

or it is juz a misunderstanding?

i wonder if there r lots of theory 2 memorise in ACCA? Or it is emphasizes on calculation?

suppose i work hard in studying, is it a certainty 2 pass all the exam ?


thx for the advice given =)

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post Mar 9 2008, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(stephanie0721 @ Mar 9 2008, 09:57 PM)
May i ask,

is it the sooner u finish the 14-paper exam,the more capable u r?

or it is juz a misunderstanding?

i wonder if there r lots of theory 2 memorise in ACCA? Or it is emphasizes on calculation?

suppose i work hard in studying, is it a certainty 2 pass all the exam ?

thx for the advice given =)
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i dun really to the statement u made above...
1stly, the sooner u pass the exam, this does not mean u r capable....coz sometimes, the theory read in the books does not represent wat is happening in the real world or needed in the real world..

2ndly, hardworking to study also do not guarantee can pass all the 14 paper..coz ACCA examiner is too creative in setting the question until u unbelievable~

Somemore in ACCA, there are 3 levels.
level 1~introduction -- quite easy and sometime will given exemption
level 2~fundamental -- started to be hard..many ppl starting fail their exam here.
level 3~professional -- need to make use of theory and calculation in fundamental level to apply in some case and make decision.

As a conclusion, ACCA is not a easy exam.(if easy, everybody also take and get a big salary la)

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post Mar 9 2008, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(sching @ Mar 9 2008, 09:56 PM)
yeah...local accounting degree pay=OBU degree pay=ACCA grad's pay
Some of the Big4 is not recognising OBU yet. For EY n KPMG they do recognise OBU..I am not sure for PWC n Delloite though...

Being an ACCA does have it advantages compared to local degrees as with ACCA you can work world wide as it is recognised internationally. In the long term, when you can in a higher position, u may be required to have a professional qualification other than ur degree.

Imagine an employer has to choose between a local degree grad with an ACCA grad, who do u think will stand a better chance? Thru some of the feedbacks i got from employers, they are more willing to hire ACCA grads as their knowledge is much better than those with degree..
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since u know that
they are more willing to hire ACCA grads as their knowledge is much better than those with degree..

why the salary of local University = ACCA?

is that equal pay?

can we complaints about that?
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post Mar 9 2008, 10:31 PM

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i know pretty well tat ACCA is a rather tough exam.

i was told tat my ncle failed his paper of ACCA in England n came back 2 M'sia. Tat's why i m really uncertain whether i can perform well or not.

Is there always a fixed examination scope for ACCA? Or v need 2 attempt most of the questions based on our personal opinion ot thinking? i mean there is no any materials 4 us 2 study .. To b frank, i hav no confident 2 answer such questions. =(

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post Mar 9 2008, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(kelvinlee1983 @ Mar 9 2008, 10:28 PM)
since u know that
they are more willing to hire ACCA grads as their knowledge is much better than those with degree..

why the salary of local University = ACCA?

is that equal pay?

can we complaints about that?
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I have the same queries as you. Anybody may give a response?
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post Mar 9 2008, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(jactval @ Mar 9 2008, 10:52 PM)
I have the same queries as you. Anybody may give a response?
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then wat for we proud as ACCA?if ACCA salary is lower than local U degree?

what for always failed ACCA and re-sit again also fail again, again and again?

need more explaination!!!!
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if i am not mistaken, PWC pays acca graduate more than degree holders.

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