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post Dec 19 2007, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(swantonng @ Dec 19 2007, 06:38 PM)
Hoping for my refund as fast as possible, no money to even shop for christmas present  cry.gif
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same here bro no money at all now ....
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post Dec 20 2007, 12:38 AM

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SB Reporting Police Group


1.) THT
2.)
3.)
4.)




MARI MARI , ALL KL BUYER COME & JOIN US..I PROVIDE FREE TRANSPORT SERVICE ..
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post Dec 20 2007, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(THT @ Dec 20 2007, 12:38 AM)
SB Reporting Police Group
1.) THT
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3.)
4.)
MARI MARI , ALL KL BUYER COME & JOIN US..I PROVIDE FREE TRANSPORT SERVICE ..
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rclxms.gif welcome, please come and join the reporting police group!

save my headache. thanks

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its refer post.no 3 and not no.4 as i checked.

edited and added post no.3




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post Dec 20 2007, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(strongbaby @ Dec 20 2007, 01:24 AM)
rclxms.gif welcome, please come and join the reporting police group!

save my headache. thanks

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its refer post.no 3 and not no.4 as i checked.

edited and added post no.3

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So seems like you are like another PE after all.
Victims, what are you waiting for? Try any viable solutions to get your refund ASAP. No point argue here already.

Anyone need Michael Chong's number? MCA can help you, at least make this guy famous on newspaper.


This post has been edited by Austin: Dec 20 2007, 01:37 AM
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post Dec 20 2007, 01:39 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Dec 19 2007, 09:11 AM)
Unfortunately, some people still protecting Strongbaby. There's some people who said need to give SB some more time.
With this, buyers no more unite. After SB refund 3 people, this thread become quiet for some time.  This is really good
tactic to buy time.

The people who protect SB, they didn't realise they are wrong. The reason is, SB never come here to said and explain.
He also did not tell us where he did his police report. This only point to one thing. That is con job. Unless he come to
explain today, I will give him the title Con Man since the refund list is bloated to 100 people.

To temptation1314 and others who still think don't pressure SB, you're digging your own grave. SB will never refund
everyone. He is just buying time. He don't even bother to explain himself. He is trying to avoid himself.


Added on December 19, 2007, 9:14 am
That is special case, and the problem is SB. You go and ask SB why he refund xiong first. You want to blame, go and blame SB.
The reason refund according to refund list is because some of you are still protecting SB and willing to wait. That is your fault
already. Don't blame others who realise earlier that they are being conned.
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Dec 19 2007, 12:21 PM)
Same like PE case. Now only certain peoples are doing something. Some are still waiting. Waiting for proof. Waiting
for report. Waiting for refund. And some still waiting for the product to come. Not many bother to do anything. It
seems like the money to them is not important.

I still remember PE case where only a few make police report. It seems like the same case as this. If this is the case,
then don't waste heroes99 time.

If everyone really want back their money, please join the report making list. If you don't join (like when the refund
list started, not many joined), then don't ask help from heroes99 or RangerRed because it seems the money is not
important to you.


Added on December 19, 2007, 12:22 pm
He's the one who initiate all this. He deserve the refund. It seems like a few only deserved to be refunded
from the look of this thread.


Added on December 19, 2007, 12:28 pm
If you bother to read the whole thread, only some small percentage of people get response. And
you're one of them. Those who got response is being picked by SB to become embassador of
peace to this thread.

I've said already. If he really not a con man, then ask him to come here (as a man) to post something here
and explain everything. And also ask him where he did the police report. If you don't try to do this, it seems
like money is not important to you as well.
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nobody is protecing anybody, people voicing out whatever they feel like to talk.

and in case you dont know here, rangerred is the first to email his details whenever he read the statement, followed by
xiong91, next is draco. and unlike what you said get protected or shitty things, i dont like him, he also dont like me, plain simple easy.
i do what i need to do behind.

and as you said above in last sentence, coming here to explain i will do, picking the right time, does coming here to defend
and do every instant update bring any solution like able to generate income or do i get free donation of money for every update i
does here?

or you think the money i begged or borrowed from people comes in by itself i stay in front of the screen ?

and in fact, to settle this at own cost require lotsa time, hell long time too. time required.



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QUOTE(strongbaby @ Dec 20 2007, 01:39 AM)

and in case you dont know here, rangerred is the first to email his details whenever he read the statement, followed by
xiong91, next is draco.
  and unlike what you said get protected or shitty things, i dont like him, he also dont like me, plain simple easy.

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thus, that means mine wont b far off behind
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post Dec 20 2007, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Dec 19 2007, 03:14 PM)
Thanks for the update. Hope you keep on updating to make
us less worried.

And since you have the police report, do you mind upload it
here to make us less hassle to go to police station?

Or if you can't, please provide us with location of the police
station that you make that report with 08407 number. Your
help will be greatly appreciated.
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oh man, how many times people asked for report through sms already.

first zx12, then a few in sms cant remember who, then heroes99, then THT.

to buy a copy of report, just go to any station, the police have online database system.
give them the code no, there are first copy, there are 2nd copy, and 3rd copy (might linked) plus 4 (coming up at stage 3).

i try get it scan and upload later. have fun!


QUOTE(Austin @ Dec 20 2007, 01:28 AM)
So seems like you are like another PE after all.
Victims, what are you waiting for? Try any viable solutions to get your refund ASAP. No point argue here already.

Anyone need Michael Chong's number? MCA can help you, at least make this guy famous on newspaper.

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oh really, thanks for the added accusation and compliments.

continue and keep it coming for satanic and flaming. rclxms.gif



Added on December 20, 2007, 1:54 am
QUOTE(zamanjaafar @ Dec 20 2007, 01:46 AM)
thus, that means mine wont b far off behind
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your are next after draco.

i think you sent me twice.


Added on December 20, 2007, 1:58 am
QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 19 2007, 02:50 PM)
Any updates on the refund?
I only see spikee refund, what about the others?

Haven't been refund?
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QUOTE(smartly @ Dec 19 2007, 02:56 PM)
I wonder why as well ???
Why spikee's refund is done by his own sister ???? An't it suppose to be refunded by SB ????
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huh... some good samaritan refund to spikee ??!

he wont be that early in list

This post has been edited by strongbaby: Dec 20 2007, 01:58 AM
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post Dec 20 2007, 02:03 AM

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strongbaby when are you going to refund to all the people? sorry if you tought what...errr
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post Dec 20 2007, 02:17 AM

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not to pour cold water, but to say pretty much your reputation over here has been badly tempered, whether u able to refund or not, damage's done, and now u re hoping like getting another investors here. Goodluck


Added on December 20, 2007, 2:18 am
QUOTE(albie @ Dec 19 2007, 12:24 AM)
Has anyone verified the details above in these few days? I would still suggest you guys to lodge police report. A person that dares to accept such big amount in advance for his business, must be ready to face risk and consequences.

This has nothing to do with pressures or not. He screwed up. Time to protect yourself. Good luck guys.
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QFT again

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post Dec 20 2007, 02:20 AM

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QUOTE(LyraSummersile @ Dec 20 2007, 02:03 AM)
strongbaby when are you going to refund to all the people? sorry if you tought what...errr
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He is too busy to count the $$$ most probably (instead of raising fund), but just a suggestion for him (I see he is so "sincere" anyhow, so late already still online suddenly) if he doesn't have much $$$ left for refund,

Strongbaby,
There is so many loansharks and personal loan from bankers out there, get your loan there to refund these victims. Instead of so free to talk cock here.
If you have no guts to borrow, I believe most of the victims here can accompany you to get the loan.... icon_idea.gif

For Victims:
Nobody here shall declare how you report at Bukit Aman and what can the police report do, but report to police is a MUST. Do what you shall do. Strongbaby is not supposed to threaten you. And he will have no interest to know about the content written in that piece of paper.

Police Report is between you and the PDRM.
Afterwards all victims shall have a meet up and then go to Michael Chong @ MCA for appointment.

Don't ever let anyone enjoy your hard earned $$ without something in return.

As a victim, reporting this case to Polis Di Raja Malaysia is your duty to prevent anymore cyber crimes especially con case. KEEP THE REPORT AND DON'T NEED TO DISCLOSE HERE. YOU NEED IT BEFORE YOU BRING IN TO MASS MEDIA in a group.

REFUND VICTIMS NOW is strongbaby's responsibility, VICTIM MIGHT NOT FORGIVE HIM BUT AT LEAST WILL FORGET ABOUT THIS CASE AFTER REFUND MADE. IF strongbaby REFUND VICTIM SELECTIVELY + SLOWLY WITHOUT A DEADLINE IS SIMPLY A JOKE TO BUY YOUR TIME
DON'T FALL INTO THIS TRAP.



Added on December 20, 2007, 2:33 am
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Has anyone verified the details above in these few days? I would still suggest you guys to lodge police report. A person that dares to accept such big amount in advance for his business, must be ready to face risk and consequences.

This has nothing to do with pressures or not. He screwed up. Time to protect yourself. Good luck guys.
Well, finally albie also here, you are right. Still remember me? last time u asked for my help about the PE case. brows.gif

For whatever reason or motive he started all the bulk orders which involved huge amount of advanced payment, IF HE COULDN'T CONVINCE HIMSELF TO INVEST HIS OWN $$$, WHY COULD HE BE SO CONFIDENCE TO INVEST OTHERS' $$$ TO HIS SUPPLIER? WHAT KIND OF SUPPLIER?

Ponzi Scheme?? Get $$ from 100 orders and get stock to fulfill 20 orders? And Buy in RM100 sell out RM90?
ETA 14 Days just for buying time?

There was too many suspicious points in his bulk.


IF THE BUSINESS ITSELF is genuine and not a con job, he will have invested his own $$$ to get stock and sell for higher profit margin already. Why bother collecting advanced full payment?

If I were doing business which handling huge amount of cash, I also scare man ~ That's not my $$, what if I lost it?
LOST RM100K OWN $$$, THAT'S YOUR OWN RM100K AFTER ALL.
LOST RM100K OTHERS' $$$, YOUR LOSS WILL BE DOUBLE.
Common Sense. shakehead.gif

His bulk orders were totally out of the common sense in the very first place and still got so many ppl banked in FULL for something risky.


This post has been edited by Austin: Dec 20 2007, 03:29 AM
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QUOTE(Austin @ Dec 20 2007, 02:20 AM)
He is too busy to count the $$$ most probably (instead of raising fund), but just a suggestion for him (I see he is so "sincere" anyhow, so late already still online suddenly) if he doesn't have much $$$ left for refund,

Strongbaby,
There is so many loansharks and personal loan from bankers out there, get your loan there to refund these victims. Instead of so free to talk cock here.
If you have no guts to borrow, I believe most of the victims here can accompany you to get the loan.... icon_idea.gif 

For Victims:
Nobody here shall declare how you report at Bukit Aman and what can the police report do, but report to police is a MUST. Do what you shall do. Strongbaby is not supposed to threaten you. And he will have no interest to know about the content written in that piece of paper.

Police Report is between you and the PDRM.
Afterwards all victims shall have a meet up and then go to Michael Chong @ MCA for appointment.

Don't ever let anyone enjoy your hard earned $$ without something in return.

As a victim, reporting this case to Polis Di Raja Malaysia is your duty to prevent anymore cyber crimes especially con case. KEEP THE REPORT AND DON'T NEED TO DISCLOSE HERE. YOU NEED IT BEFORE YOU BRING IN TO MASS MEDIA in a group.

REFUND VICTIMS NOW is strongbaby's responsibility, VICTIM MIGHT NOT FORGIVE HIM BUT AT LEAST WILL FORGET ABOUT THIS CASE AFTER REFUND MADE. IF strongbaby REFUND VICTIM SELECTIVELY + SLOWLY WITHOUT A DEADLINE IS SIMPLY A JOKE TO BUY YOUR TIME
DON'T FALL INTO THIS TRAP.



Added on December 20, 2007, 2:33 am

Well, finally albie also here, you are right. Still remember me? last time u asked for my help about the PE case.  brows.gif

For whatever reason or motive he started all the bulk orders which involved huge amount of advanced payment, IF HE COULDN'T CONVINCE HIMSELF TO INVEST HIS OWN $$$, WHY COULD HE BE SO CONFIDENCE TO INVEST OTHERS' $$$ TO HIS SUPPLIER? WHAT KIND OF SUPPLIER?

Ponzi Scheme?? Get $$ from 100 orders and get stock to fulfill 20 orders? And Buy in RM100 sell out RM90?
ETA 14 Days just for buying time?

There was too many suspicious points in his bulk.


IF THE BUSINESS ITSELF is genuine and not a con job, he will have invested his own $$$ to get stock and sell for higher profit margin already. Why bother collecting advanced full payment?

If I were doing business which handling huge amount of cash, I also scare man ~ That's not my $$, what if I lost it?
LOST RM100K OWN $$$, THAT'S YOUR OWN RM100K AFTER ALL.
LOST RM100K OTHERS' $$$, YOUR LOSS WILL BE DOUBLE.
Common Sense.  shakehead.gif

His bulk orders were totally out of the common sense in the very first place and still got so many ppl banked in FULL for something risky.

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drool.gif wow, you just awesome...
I tell you what is more COMMON SENSE.
You in no position to accuse someone or anyone in here.

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Strongbaby is not supposed to threaten you.

Since when he started to threated us? doh.gif

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IF HE COULDN'T CONVINCE HIMSELF TO INVEST HIS OWN $$$, WHY COULD HE BE SO CONFIDENCE TO INVEST OTHERS' $$$ TO HIS SUPPLIER? WHAT KIND OF SUPPLIER?

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IF THE BUSINESS ITSELF is genuine and not a con job, he will have invested his own $$$ to get stock and sell for higher profit margin already. Why bother collecting advanced full payment?


You create the rules?? And you assuming everyone could fill in the form and money is on the table for you to collect?? Get a bit of common sense. doh.gif
If there's 100k people (for example LYN) borrowing 50k loan and approved without doubt from banks, would you think you have that bank by tomorrow if non-of them could pay back.

On other thought, why you don't go scold expanthosethief(sorry bro sweat.gif), or other bulkers invest on their own for the bulk instead of getting full advanced payment?? laugh.gif

Now who is more common sense doh.gif

You know what, heroes99 post is kind of invite flame at the very first but later-on, his post are more worthful than yours.

*Note : I'm not siding on SB side. I play fair for both. And you know that you yourself are good at assuming and I'm kind of impressed that mod could let someone "non-related" to put up more flame. *RangerRed if you know what I'm trying to explain over here...
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Strongbaby , good to see posting here ...please do this more often

Please let me know the police station that you had reported ...as each police station have their own report number

and according to the officer , I can't get it without your consent ...

It is even much better if you can post it up and make this your number one task

I need the report so that it can provide me details of your main supplier , then we can track him down

and strongbaby , please be more sensitive in your reply ...dont use word like " have fun" and those fun smiley ..this is a serious matter here and a lot of people are very sad and frustrated at the moment , don't reply with attitude of "tidak apa"

Police Report Group

OK those who wish to do this but does not want to expose yourself here ( which I believe is the reason the police report list is near empty ), you can PM and I will organize and make arrangement

Let me have your contact number and please compile all the relevant document both original and photocopy

If you are from outside KL , you can still PM me as I will organize the group into both KL and non KL

I hope to setup those group in 7 days time and like gogo2 mention , this group has to be very strong in order to be effective

Our first task is to meet up with strongbaby and hear personally from him and then we will decide the next course of action

But if he refuse to meet up or we can't find him , then we will proceed to ALL these 4 action

A) To lodge a report at Bukit Aman with Commercial Crime and anti cyber crime unit

B) File up a report with the Ministry of Trade to Investigate whether any foul play involve

c) See Micheal Chong and present him with the reports that we have made and let him take over from there

d) Go to the media , I believe Malay Mail will have no problem putting this on Front Page

There is one member who posted that he have connection with the media , you are most welcome to join the group

Notes - despite all those accusation and remarks , please keep an open mind when meeting strongbaby as at this very moment , there is still not enough prove to say he is a conman and we pray to god that he is telling the truth


All my earlier remarks are just meant to flush strongbay out and make him reply here ....


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i will do group police report together for KL group
let me know when
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Just a little note to u all, Austin a trader that has invest 10s of thousands of his own money in one go for certain 'bulks' of his notebooks. His total investment of his own money in his LYN trading over the years far exceeds most of you guys.

Heroes99 pm me the list of ppl going with u as group A KL. Group A penang can pm me if they want and we can go together but since I got a refund I can only join you to go to the station but can't add my name to the report.

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enough accusations/stipulations/nonsenses/etc

this thread is going to reach 30pages and most are crap post.

do we need V2 of this thread? that will be the first time for TradeZone Dispute Corner sweat.gif

edit: wait.... it reached page 30... doh.gif

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That's right... u all just pm the leaders for making the police reports. There is no need to point fingers.
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Dec 20 2007, 08:37 AM)
Just a little note to u all, Austin a trader that has invest 10s of thousands of his own money in one go for certain 'bulks' of his notebooks. His total investment of his own money in his LYN trading over the years far exceeds most of you guys.

Heroes99 pm me the list of ppl going with u as group A KL. Group A penang can pm me if they want and we can go together but since I got a refund I can only join you to go to the station but can't add my name to the report.
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If everyone had the lucks like Austin, I wouldn't need to sit here working like cow.
Try again.
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Not lucks, its business sense. Understanding risks, servicing ur clients, assuring profits.

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