This thread is for buyers that are looking for refunds from Strongbaby AFTER waiting for MORE THAN 28 WORKING DAYS.

If you want to add your name to the list just copy and paste the list from the last post. The format should look like this:

your name === item === amount paid === balance owed

Example:

John Smith === 100" LCD === RM5000 === RM5000

Strongbaby than must refund the "Balance Owed" immediately. Note, should he refund through Interbank Giro remember there is a waiting period by both banks to clear money.

If you do not report back in the thread immediately after confirming the correct amount has been refunded you will be given a 7 day 'vaction' for your account.

Strongbaby, you to refund ACCORDING TO THE ORDER OF THE LIST WITHOUT FAIL. You ARE NOT ALLOWED to SELECTIVELY CHOOSE WHO TO REFUND. If the amount of the person to refund next exceeds RM2K then you ARE TO REFUND AN AGREE AMOUNT (THAT YOU AND THE SAID PARTY HAS DISCUSSED IN PM) AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE IN THE LIST. When you have finished paying the 9th person from the list you then to return to the person/people you still owe money and pay another amount that is agreed upon. Example, you agree to pay THT and Hyde`fK RM500 on the 1st round. When you have refunded Kenny83 then you will start with THT and Hyde`fK and refund them another agreed amount. Then you proceed to refund superglwl onwards until tornad0 (he is the 9th person from THT on the 2nd round). Then refund THT and Hyde`fK again and continue from Synco to jerdude.

If you need a more detailed payment schedule than PM me. Do not selective choose who you want to refund because this is the same way you screwed us on how you delivered your promised goods to the list you made.

1.) THT === List Below === RM20080 === RM19880 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refund Partial 17/12/2007
Pen Drive 2GB 50pcs - 1,880.00
Acer 17' Lcd Monitor 2unit - 960.00
Samsung 732n Plus 37Unit - 19,240.00
Samsung 206bw - 730.00
Samsung 931bw 4 Unit - 2,560.00
Acer 17' Lcd Monitor 5 Unit - 2,160.00
Samsung 931bw 2 unit - 1,240.00
Western Digitl 500gb 3 Unit - 1,110.00











































47.) lelong 2007 === 2x psp slim === RM1000 === RM500 === 15/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby






55.) aliex87 === SE P1i === RM1400 === RM700 === 16 Dec 2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
















75.) bill3 === 2xPSP Slim,Xbox360,NDSL,Wii ==== RM3460 === RM3460 ==RM2660=== 17/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby

77.) Kerplunk === XFX8800GT,Gigabyte p35-ds3,Intel core 2 duo e6750 === RM1700 === RM1700 === 17/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby



81.) Dreamworks === NDSL (R4 Bundle) === RM450 === Balance remaining RM50 === "Contra" with clearance items, 10-01-2008 === 17/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby


84.) ihatemyguts === 8800GT x 1 unit ===RM800 === RM800 === 18/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby


87.) No1n$anE === 2x PSP === RM1120 === RM1120 === 1/1/2008 === Emailed To Strongbaby








99.) tadpole-x === 4x NDSL with R4 bundle = RM1800 === RM1800 === 19-12-2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby


102.) ilovecsk === 2 x NDSL === RM900 === RM600 === 19Dec2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby







112.) VoonZ === NDSL X 5 === RM2250 === RM2250 === 22/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby


115.) vodoo2k=== 1xps2 === RM400 === RM400 === 23/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
116.) Wind82 === 4 X PSP Slim 2 GB Package === RM2200 === RM2200 === 24/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
117.) stacko === Asus SATA Lightscribe DVD writer === RM88 === RM88 === 24/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
118.) r4g3 === 1 x Xbox360 20gb === RM1200 === RM1200 === 24/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby

120.) mervynrwtw === PSP Slim ==== RM500 === RM500 === 26/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby

122.) rcv86 === Sony Ericsson W610i === RM600.00 === RM600.00 = = = 26 Dec 2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
123.) michealchew === LITEON 20x SATA - RM88.00 (20A1S) === RM88.00 === RM88.00 === 27/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
124.) tajulsans === Asus DVD Writer 18x === Rm90 === 28/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby

126.) alexx84 === 19" LCD === RM830 === RM830 === 30/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby

128.) zelltan8 === PSP lite with 2gb memory card package === RM550 === RM550 === 31/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby
129.) Zeroize === 1 X samsung20x DVDRW === RM88 === RM88 === 31/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby
130.) nexus === PSP Lite === RM500 === RM500 === 9/1/2008 === Emailed To Strongbaby




136:) Arina == NDSL == rm450 == rm450 === 14/01/2008 ===

138.) Dark_lucifer === 47psp=== RM480=== RM22560
139.) Dark_lucifer === 2unit laptop BenQ === Rm2800each+shippingRm150===Rm5750
140.) xphonerz === XBOX 360 = RM1200 === RM1200 == 15-01-2008 === Emailed To Strongbaby
141.) scitzo === psp = RM500 === RM500== 16/1/2008
142.) scitzo === usb external harddisk === RM320 === rm320 === 16/1/2008
143.) tohama=== Toshiba & Pendrive's Pendrive === Rm 6+++ === RM 2160 (After Contra with Other Item ) === 16/1/2008
144.) tweetysamm === NDSL +R4 = RM450 === RM450=== 18-01-2008 === Emailed To Strongbaby
145.) local_machine === PSP Slim === RM500 === RM500 === 20-01-2008 === Emailed To Strongbaby
146.) bads === PSP Slimx3 === RM1500 === RM1500 === 20-01-2008 === Emailed To Strongbaby
147.) Esmond99 === PSP slim console only = RM500 === RM500 === 20-1-2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
148.) Davidnikon === Sony PS2 === RM400 === RM400 === mailed on 2 Jan 2008 === Emailed To Strongbaby
149.) XPS.Station === 1GB Kingston DDR667 Memory === RM3,850.00 === RM3,850.00 === 30-1-2007 === [ Emailed To Strongbaby
150.) XPS.Station === AMD Athlon X2 4000+ === RM1,400.00 === RM1,400.00 === 30-1-2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
151.) Element_18 === e6750 processor === RM570 === RM570 === 6 March 2008
152.)
153.)


Strongbaby will refund as soon as you email him your details at refund@abizon.net following this format according to page 3 of this thread instructions by Strongbaby:

Full Name
Nickname in forum
Bank Information
Amount & Item involved

Completed refund list:

2.) RangerRed === PSP Slim and 2GB Memory Card ==== RM550 === RM0 === 7/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 17/12/2007
7.) xiong91 === PSP Slim and 4GB Memory Card ==== RM670 === RMo === 8/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 17/12/2007
12.) eehtsitna === PSP Slim with 2gb MSPD package === Rm570.00 === Rm0 === 14/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 17/12/2007
90.) kshin === 1 unit of psp slim with 2Gb memory === RM550 === RM550 === 18/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Received PSP minus 2GB mem card === 1/1/2008
18.) tornad0 === NDSL+Shipping === RM470 === Contra Microsoft Reclusa (RM 270.00) + Microsoft Webcam (RM 89.00) === 10/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
27.) Cyphereza === 2x PSP Slim === RM990 === RM0 === 12/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 18/1/2008
66.) karising === PSP Slim + 2GB memory === RM550 === RM0 === 17/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 18/1/2008
32.) klmc === NDSL=== RM400 === RM0 === 20/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 18/1/2008
38.) miseralim === Western Digital Passport 160GB external Hdd === RM320 === RM0 === 13/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 20/1/2008
14.) zamanjaafar === 1 x MSI 8800GT OC === RM800 === RM0 === 11/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 19/1/2008
78.) ksyong9682 === 3 unit Intel E2140 === RM600 === RM0=== 31 Dec 2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 19/1/2008
68.) Apek===Sony PSP Slim(RM500)===Screen Protector (RM40)===Sony 4GB MSPD (RM160)===RM0===17/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 20/1/2008
73.) SkyX === NDSL + R4 === RM450 === RM0 === 18-12-2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 20/1/2008
62.) deed === 1x PSP and 1xW.D Passport HDD 160gb === Rm820 === Rm0 === 22/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 20/1/2008
63.) pika-pika === NDSL + R4 Pack === RM450 === RM0 === 17/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 18/1/2008
13.) crossbone== 1 unit of nintendo ds lite(R4 pack)==RM0==13/11/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 18/1/2008
29.) daniel_lyw===Intel E6750, Gigabyte GA-G33M-DS2R, & WD 5000AAKS===RM1300===RM0===17/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 18/1/2008
54.) Jackolantern === 1 unit of PSP Slim Package (Console Only) === RM500 === RM0 === 16/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 18/1/2008
11.) MikiJason === PSP white === RM 500 === RM 500 === 17/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 19/1/2008
30.) parsona === XFX 8800 GT=== RM800 === RM800 === 13/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 19/1/2008
59.) jj90210 === 2x XFX8800GT === RM1580 === RM0 === 16/12/2007 === REFUNDED (19/1/2008)
24.) kali65===1xPSP(console only) & 1xNDSL(R4 pack)===RM950===RM950===31/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 21/1/2008
3.) Dracoevo === NDSL + Samsung HDD 500GB + Samsung DVDRW === RM848 === RM648 (Refund Partial) === 8-12-07 Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 21/1/2008
50.) AhMiaW === 2x PSP === Rm1000 === 15/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 21/1/2008
44.) carpathia === Sony k810i and Nintendo DS Lite === RM1350=== RM1350 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 18/1/2008
65.) kengsim === PSP x 2 === RM1,000 === RM1,000 === 17/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 20/1/2008
4.) nagflar === MSI 8800 GT === 900 === 100 === 8-12-2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded
45.) Godluvsxs===2 units PSP RM500 package === RM1000 === RM1000 ===14/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 22/1/2008
33.) Balmung === PSP Slim and 2GB Memory Card + Shipping ==== RM570 === RM570 === 31/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 22/1/2008
16.) remeron === samsung 226bw === RM1029 === RM1029 = = = Dec 9 2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 22/1/2008
25.) jerdude === Samsung 2232bw + 8800GT === RM2180 === RM1420 === 11-12-07 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 22/1/2008
67.) hoon === Samsung 500gb Sata2 === RM 350 === RM350 === 17/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby==Refunded 22/01/2008
64.) kakarocht === CPU/Processor Q6600 G0 Stepping === RM880 === RM0 === 17/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === 12/1/2007
10.) Kenny83 === 1 unit of psp slim and 4GB Memory === RM650 === RM0 === 29/10/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === 22/01/2008
8.) kelvinbaby === 1 unit of psp slim === RM500 === RM500 === 10/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby==22/01/2008
58.) Chromax8 === ZOTAC 8800GT AMP! Edition ==== RM900 === Contra on two items MS Reclusa K/B & Logitech G3 Mouse @ RM410 ==== RM 490.00 balance === Emailed To Strongbaby == 22/01/2008
42.) master_q=== NDSL (R4 package)=== RM450 === RM450 === Emailed To Strongbaby
31.) likito === XFX8800GT 512MB === RM800.00 === RM800.00 === 13/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby==23/01/2008
69.) jehutyz === PSP Slim ==== RM500 === RM500 === 17/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby==23/01/2008
107.) newbie2 === 2 PSP +Intel C2S E6750+Abit IN9+Samsung 226BW+ Lite-on 18X SATA+ Enlight 400w = RM 2980 === RM 2980 === 20-12-2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
46.) shoden === 8800GT === RM800 === RM800 === 14/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby==24/01/2008
9.) lchee === PSP slim and lite + 4GB memory package === RM800 === RM800 === 8/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby==12/01/2008
76.) kkreg === XFX8800GT === RM800 === RM800 === 17/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby==23/01/2008 (refer private forum)
35.) chuafc2006 === PSP Slim and 2GB Memory Card ==== RM550 === RM550 === 13/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby==24/01/08
61.) dokidoki === NDSL === RM400 === RM400 === 17 DEC 2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby==Refunded==25/01/08
43.) one0one === PS2 Slim Modded === RM400 === RM400 === 14/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby==Refunded==25/01/08
41.) StratOS === PSP slim and lite + 4GB memory package === RM800 === RM800 === 14/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby==Refunded==26/01/08
60.) temptation1314 === NDSL + R4 Pack === RM450 === RM0 === 17/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 25/1/2008
15.) vxeon === 1 unit of PSP Slim Package (Console Only) === RM500 === RM500 === 9/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby==Refunded==24/01/08
37.) KaiserRagez === PSP Slim and 2GB Memory Card + Crystal Casing==== RM570 === RM570 === 13/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby==Refunded==25/01/08
19.) Synco === NDS=== RM 450 === RM450 === 10/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby==Refunded(Refer Private Forum)
20.) EDK== 1 unit of Samsung 226BW==RM999==27/08/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby==Refunded(Refer Private Forum)
49.) DEz012 === XFX8800GT 512MB === RM800.00 === RM800.00 === 20/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby==Refunded 26/01/08
57.) vixxiee === XFX 8800GT === RM800 === RM800 === 16/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 29/01/08
23.) heng84 === bundleditems listbelow ==== RM2060 === RM850 === 10/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 30/01/08
1x Intel q6600 g0 stepping = RM850
72.) stone13 === Lite - On DVDRW & DS Lite === RM 538 === RM538 === 31 / 01 / 2008 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 30/01/08
83.) glo === PSP Slim + 2GB memory === RM550 === RM550 === 18/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Full refund (RM550) received on 1/5/08
80.) ahming888 === PSP Lite 2G package === RM570 === RM570=== 1/1/2008 === Emailed To Strongbaby

Update provided by Ravenz:

79.) tohkimwah === NDSL+R4 + PS2 = RM850 === RM850===17-12-07 === Emailed To Strongbaby ~ full refund
56.) kofsiong === intel C2D E6750 === RM570 === RM420 (RM150 refunded) === 16/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby Full refund of RM420.
134.) toughnut === Nokia N81 8GB + 1x WesternD 500GB 5" + 3x Seagate 500GB 5" + 4x Seagate 120GB 2.5" === RM5970 === RM4470 === xx/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Partial Refund 03/02/08 Refund from SB rm1500 on 3 February 08
zeropulse 4 Feb 2008 - - - -RM1100
kevinwcw rm 650 refunded
75.) bill3 === 2xPSP Slim,Xbox360,NDSL,Wii === RM3460 === RM2660 === 17/12/2007 === Partial Refund 13/2/2008 RM 800
71.) spacecopgaban === PSP + 2GB MSPD === RM550 === RM550 === 17-12-2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby Full refund (RM550)
21.) swantonng ===PSP 4GB Package=== RM 800 === RM800 === 12/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby ~ I got my refund today after some complications in the pdf form
Kerplunk got my first installment of refunds of rm600 two weeks ago(dated 1st february 2008)
70.) lambchop === ndsl+r4 ==== RM450 === RM450 === 17/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby ...refunded in full by bank in on 14th jan

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2nd wave of refunds

6.) Hyde`fK === List Below === RM5560 === RM5560 === 1/12/2007 (Waiting delivery of 1 PSP) === Emailed To Strongbaby
3x PSP Slim RM500 ea = RM1500
2x NDSL RM450 ea = RM900
2x PS2 RM400 ea = RM800
1x Xbox360 RM1110 ea = RM1110
2x PSP RM500ea = RM1000
5x 2GB RM50ea = RM250

34.) abox56 === 4xPSP Slim and 2x2GB Memory Card + ps2 ==== RM2500 === RM1000 === 20/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby Contra 3 units microsoft keyboard 500, 3 units logitech G1 gaming keyboard.

40.) spikeee === NDSL === RM400 === RM0 === 14/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded by spikeee's sister

82.) nakhtaladakh === Sony Ericsson W610i ===RM600 === RM600 === 15/01/2008 === Emailed To Strongbaby

28.) ColeXE === 1x Intel C2D E6750 === RM550 === RM550 === 12/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
85.) Linkin182 === 2x PSP Slim = RM1000 === RM1000=== 20-11-2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
22.) luminity === x4 unit PSP RM550 package === RM2200 === RM1200 === 10/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby

26.) zx12 === PSP + SE K810i (Ori set) === RM 500 + RM 1100 === RM800 === REFUNDED RM800 === 12/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby
92.) Peacenik === AMD AM2 X2 4000+ = RM 210 === RM210 === 20-11-2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
93.) Peacenik === LG DVD-COMBO = RM 88 === RM 88 === 20-11-2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
86.) BLackmachine === PSP Lite Console Only === RM500 === RM500 === 18/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby

94.) syin === 1 unit of psp slim with 2Gb memory === RM550 === RM550 === 18/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
95.) alpha_numeric182 === MSI 8800GT 512MB (received), Silverstone ST56F (have not received), LG DVD ROM (have not received) === RM1270 === RM470 === 18/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
96.) IcEMoCHa === ASUS 8800GT = RM 800 === RM 800 === 20-12-2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
97.) azman4243 === Samsung 226BW = RM1000 === RM1000 === 18-12-2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
91.) locolyric=== 1 unit of ndsl === RM450 === RM450 === 17/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
48.) yipwh === 2x XFX 8800GT === RM1600 === RM800 === 15/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
103.) neb === samsung harddisk 500GB + Liteon DVD writer + postage === RM438 === RM438 === 19-12-2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
106.) cuteassmon === SAMSUNG SYNCMASTER 932B PLUS LCD 19 === RM640.00 === RM640.00 === 20/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
39.) tycheah_7 === 3x PSP Slim === RM1500 === RM1500 === 14/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
100.) blah1134 === 8800GT === RM800 === RM800 === 19/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
101.) fedoracore === 1 unit PSP SLIM (console only) === RM500 === RM500 === 19/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
105.) dmm9394 === 1xNDSL Black (R4 Pack) === RM450.00 === RM450.00 === 20/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
89.) messenger === NDSL +R4 = RM450 === RM450=== 18-12-2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
98.) silverchain === 2 unit of psp slim 2GB package + shipping === RM 1120 === RM 1120 === 19/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
109.) kingsthii === PSP === RM520 (RM500+RM20 Postage) === RM520 === 20/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
110.) leezhunkeat === Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 === RM570.00 === RM570.00 === 20/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
70.) lambchop === ndsl+r4 ==== RM450 === RM450 === 17/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
108.) jamis === PSP Lite White ceramic === RM550 === RM550 === 20 DEC 2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
79.) tohkimwah === NDSL+R4 + PS2 = RM850 === RM850===17-12-07 === Emailed To Strongbaby
56.) kofsiong === intel C2D E6750 === RM570 === RM420 (RM150 refunded) === 16/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
5.) pr3dator === PSP Slim and 4GB Memory Card ==== RM800 === RM800 === 8/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
51.) zeropulse === 2xPSP Slim with 2GB MSPD === Rm1100 === 15/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
74.) chianping=== 2 unit of psp === Rm1000 === RM1000 === 17/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby
133.) wiseprince === intel Q6600 === RM880.00 === RM880.00 === 12/01/2008 === Emailed To Strongbaby
17.) cookie3184 === 1 X ndsl === RM450 === RM450 = = = 9 Dec 2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
104.) Irishcoffee === PSP Lite + 2GB Memory Rm550 === RM550 === 19/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
134.) toughnut === Nokia N81 + WesternD 500GB SATA2 === RM3050 === RM3050 === xx/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby
119.) SAKIT === PSP Slim and 2GB Memory Card ==== RM550 === RM550 === 26/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
111.) slipars === Samsung 932b plus 19" LCD === RM620.00 === RM620.00 === 21/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
113.) Kimmimaro === PSP X 1 === RM500 === RM500 === 23/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
137.) wuming62 === NDSL +R4 = RM450 === RM450=== 15-01-2008 === Emailed To Strongbaby
132.) tick (ticke, cuz he can't spell his own nick) === PSP Slim n Lite === RM500 === RM500 === 11/1/2008 === Emailed To Strongbaby
125.) wallawey === samsung 732N+ === RM560 === RM560 === 28/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby
121.) vincentcool88 === samsung 932b+ === RM640 === RM640 = = = 26 Dec 2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
renginez === PSP SLIM (1st batch) = RM500 === 28-06-2008 (morning) === Fully refunded by Strongbaby
127.) irvene2000 === 1x NDSL Black & 1x NDSL Pink (received) === RM900 === RM450 === 30/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby
garka===RM700
21.) swantonng ===PSP 4GB Package=== RM 800 === RM800 === 12/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
36.) celez === SE k810 (AP set) === rm870 === rm870 === 13/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
53.) kevinwcw === ASUS 8800GT === Rm800 === Rm650 (RM150 refunded) === 15/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
71.) spacecopgaban === PSP + 2GB MSPD === RM550 === RM550 === 17-12-2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
junhe= RM 500 refunded on 4/07/2008
52.) t3quila™ === Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 === RM570.00 === RM570.00 === 22/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
114.) ibnjam=== 1xpsp 2gig bundle === RM550=== RM550 === 23/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
135.) protoNium === 1x PSP slim Lite === RM500 === RM500 === 14/01/2008 === Emailed To Strongbaby
88.) Celez === W610i === Rm600 === Rm600 === 1/1/2008 === Emailed To Strongbaby

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Format for sending your personal info to SB's lawyer for refund claim:



Email to scorping@hotmail.com


Strongbaby's Details:

Ng Sze keat
ICNO: 770830145665
Add: Block 70-10-03 Sri Sabah Flat, Jalan Cheras, 56100 KL

Yellow Pages Msia info:
C-12-23A,Cemara Apartment,
Jalan Sri Permaisuri 3
56000, Bandar Sri Permaisuri,
Kuala Lumpur
Phone : 03-9173 8737

HP: 012 674 4388 and 016 3344388

NOTE: Strongbaby do not bother posting anything in this thread. The only thing you allowed to post is the details of the refunds. Other than that your other posts will be removed. Anyone posting stupid comments will get holiday from the forum. Anyone posting with smilies will get a holiday too. If you want to ask a question, use properly or at least understandable english.

This post has been edited by stevanistelrooy: Jul 12 2008, 01:43 PM

1.)26-10-2007 - RM2000.00 (1st Refund)
2.)01-11-2007 - : RM1000.00 (2rd Refund)
3.)06-11-2007- RM1000.00 (2rd Refund)
4.)13-11-2007 - RM1500.00 (3th Refund)
5.)13-11-2007 - Rm500.00 (PSP)
6.)27-11-2007 - Rm500.00 (4th Refund)
7.)27-11-2007 - Rm3300.00 (Deduct Incentive)
8.)20-12-2007 - Rm200.00(5th Refund )
9.)03-01-2008 - Linksys wireless router & Kingston 1GB DDR2 667Mhz Sodimm Ram
(Contrat with RM280.00)



Balance as of today(21/07/08): RM8600
After sign The AGreement Installment by 10months

1.)18-01-2008 - Rm1800 - Balance Rm16200
2.)02-06-2008 - Rm1800 - Balance Rm14400
3.)03-06-2008 - Rm1800 - Balance Rm12600
4.)05-06-2008 - Rm1200 - Balance Rm11400
5.)07-06-2008 - Rm1800 - Balance Rm9600
6.)28-06-2008 - Rm600 - Balance Rm9000
7.)20-07-2008 - Rm400 - Balance Rm400
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This post has been edited by THT: Jul 24 2008, 11:05 AM

keep it coming.


The Head (invisible) ---> Main Agent/Supplier (Negotiator) ---> Me (Agent/Supplier) ---> Sub Agents.

Normally i refer the main guy as a negotiator in getting hardware components goods/phone/console/etc/etc.
at cheap price and with his terms and conditions.
whatever buyer here see my terms and conditions, ETA, rules and regulations are instructed by my main.
thats the deal between me and him.

For Buyers (What options do you have to proceed from here if things really gone awful).
- You may file a police report against me.
- You may file a legal action against me.
- You may co-operate or join whatever solutions available at bottom here.

For Seller (Me myself have to take action and prepare for worst scenario in case).
- If any police report against me, then the police here will do the part as well to investigate my report i made ago against main.
- If any legal action against me, then i have to get my lawyer to reply in legal manner as well.
-

Overall Conclusion to buyers & seller.
A) If i have the intention to cheat or con you, i wont be sitting here replying (even though slow) to you
or answering sms or phone calls. I will just off my phone and completely ignore all and be like the infamous guy once here.

B) Preparing for worst case scenario like during court hearing or no show up from Main agent, i will still be held responsible
to do refund at my own expenses. (kindly check out the options avail below later).

C) By digging or fork out own expenses, by all means i still have to find income and project offline or online or
borrow loan shark, loan from relatives (already tried), loan from friends, sell whatever items on hand avail and ETC.
Also i have a family to feed and child to take care of and it will gonna be burdening.

D) Lastly, those buyers personally meet up with me before will judge itself whether i am con man or not.
and why on earth i wanna put up myself in this kind of jeopardize tight situation. If people have the intention
to hurt me by all means, then i am speechless and nothing to say but i will stand and remain responsible for all outcome
and find solutions that is fair enough to both.

E)




Proposed Solutions Refund Policy (for deals in lowyat.net forum) or Goods.

A) Email your particulars with format shown below to refund@abizon.net
- Full Name
- Nickname in forum
- Bank Information
- Amount & Item involved

B) Requested members of refunds will be compile and proposed refund policy have to draft out soon at own expenses.



FAQ:
How i met or find this kind of main agent/negotiater?
- Through some past business contact at some meeting long time ago.

How you deal with him?
- Everything upfront as usual like buyers paid me and i paid him via cash.
- Delivery of goods given by meet up at random location point around city or outskirt area.

What is the background profile of this Main Guy?
- As far as i heard he might has a big boss above or linkage to 'invisible' people which i believe.

How long you been dealing with him?
- 2 to 3 years i guess down the road.


Regards,
Strongbaby

P.S: if interested to have a police report copy, request from police with 08407 and pay them RM10.

To be continue again

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- ADDED -

5.0) Con-Current Solutions that i am working on: (if you have know any rich businessmen interested)

5.1) Wooing Investors to start in gaming console business that can help turnaround.
3 potential investors are considering it after presented.
(able to source for direct wholesalers without relying or depending on middle men/agent)

5.2) Proposal for serious investors only. buzz me if need for whole view.

5.3) Already worked out this proposal that can at least help those especially affected buyers and others.


5.0x) 2nd Solutions working on:

5.0xa) Other shelved proposal - time to dust it off and revive back.



6.0) Refunding Solutions

6.1) At this sucky an ugly tight situation, as said earlier i have to dig out my own money & expenses
to do refund at own cost.

6.2) It will be a hell long process, from months to years with that amount for sure.
Refund will be done in either weekly, 2 weeks once, monthly and subject to change.

6.3) Refunding will be done like one by one each based on funds i borrowed, for example the first round of refund done days ago.
(take note: even borrowing money from people got a limit and dunno how much can get from approved funds)

6.4) At same time i have to dig out those old on-hand goods to clear off and compile it in one whole list and try sell it
off at cheap price and refund whichever way it can help.

6.5) I cannot allow my left hand to continue to pour out refunds if my right hand there is no sales income flowing in,
its not balance at all and will end up bottleneck and halted sooner or later.

6.6) Part Refunds will come from collecting debts from my customer in other business sector and project bidding (in progress).

6.7)



7.0) As for myself

7.1) I wont be easily give up or defeated with amount of refunding here as i have own responsibility towards my buyers
to fix up shits already happen, and will continue to seek solutions for new revive startup in same and other business
to generate massive income.

7.2) Future bleak but vow and strive to worked things out and have to reconnect new biz channels or sources.

7.3) Working with police (IO) with lead information nabbing the culprit and in 3rd stage will possibility submitting entire buyers particulars to IO for thorough checking or linkage.

7.4) Miracle happens or lady luck with you or hit lottery?!

7.5) Continue to workout additional solutions round the clock offline.



8.0) As for buyers

8.1) Sorry to say that, waiting for refund its hell long process this time, dependent on my sales income that
have to rebuild (restart/reset) again very soon.

8.2) You have the rights to lodge police report against me or sue me (as mentioned earlier), if you not satisfied
or not happy for waiting, i don't mind seriously, it's your rights, even the ASP told me.
Proceed to clause 9.0a for guide.

8.3) You may come and pay me a visit with address provided there for H20 drinking session.

8.4) You may continue to scream in forum with sadistic/sarcasm/criticism/flaming/stabbing or satanic remarks.

8.5) Don't worry too much, the one who suppose to worries or concern its me, always need to crack up my head and brainstorming.

8.6) I am always here, and will always remain here, don't speculate too much when i don't go online in forum for days while
i can be reach via sms, email, msn and phone calls.

8.7) To SMS me, make sure provide your initial nick at the end of msg, otherwise wont get any reply from me.

8.8) Those sent sms to me and dont get reply at all, probably overlook as sms flow in like stack of cards.

8.9) Don't ring me with restricted or unknown privacy numbers, chances are you wont get an answering.
Mostly your direct contat numbers are stored in my phonebook, so i know who i am talking to unless otherwise stated.

8.9a) Please dont message me with special remark requesting refund immediately/urgently with all sorts
of reasons esp with 'Hope you understand' (but who understand me?) as i am not ATM machine
and i am doing at my best effort to solve things around here.

8.9b) Lastly, co-operation from both side is required, and i have to think out of the box and hope you can as well.



9.0a) Step by step guide if you want to lodge report.

- Have your I.C ready

- Answer the basic Q&A from police at desk counter before they pen down the report.

- After officer typed out your report in computer, verify the spelling properly and statement,
make sure got my name and IC and whatever detailed info you will put its correct.

- They will verify with their superior your case report no. and submit to relevant IO in charge.

- Done.

- The IO will contact me for questionings and commercial crime unit will look into it.

- And i can rest in peace.



9.0b) Step by step guide if you want to engage a lawyer and dispute in court.

- Find a proper lawyer praticising in appropriate field.

- Submit any relevant supporting documents or proof.

- And the rest will be see in court hearing and start defending.

- Done. Rest in peace.


9.0c) Others

- Report #1 Link 1

- Report #2 Link 2

- Report #3 Link 3

- Report #4 Link 4


10.0) Overall Summary




And keep it coming again...


This post has been edited by strongbaby: Dec 20 2007, 01:13 AM

Yup, from a person that don't cares.... a real serious and responsible person would have posted, 'What kind of arrangement I can make to satisfy you but at the same time is possible for me to keep.'

You see you guys, he has your money. And he doesn't care. All his goods (LCD, DVD burners) so far are from local distrobuters when you check the serial numbers on them.

And regarding the PSPs, when he tells you, you met up with him as he is picking up stock at Lowyat that means he was buying it from a shop there probably.

He will satisfy a few customers to keep all your hopes up. Because he needs the money with him to roll.

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Added on December 7, 2007, 5:55 pmOh and for that smart ass comment and pm you get your name on the refund list for what you owe me.

This post has been edited by RangerRed: Dec 7 2007, 05:55 PM

he should get a dispute tag immediately to prevent any innocent noob deposit money into his account.

what happened to strongbaby and to his buyer actually?

Dispute tag assigned.

wow wad the hell are happening here? ... i dealt with him once but only small amount .. quite slow ... RM28k? .. wow soo much ...

Hi,

I am one of the buyers waiting for a PSP from Strongbaby. I bought through my brother, RangerRed, as I did not have a lowyat account at that time. I had planned for the PSP to be a (very) belated birthday gift for myself - something which I have rarely done in my life.

Anyway, I have been waiting for a PSP since I paid in on October 31. It has been over a month now.

They say with time you see more clearly and I must thank Strongbaby for giving me ample time to contemplate on what a fool I had been to trust him and his promise of delivery.

Like many of the buyers here, I waited with baited breath, counting down the ETA to my delivery. After all 14 working days seemed like a reasonable wait. And with more people being added to the paid list, I thought that there would be no problem with the bulk.

But like beetle eggs hatching in the grain, the bulk soon became infested with problems.

Strongbaby gave convenient excuses - shipment is late, no stock, shortage of available colours, and so on.

One has to stop here and wonder, if Strongbaby issued the order to the 'suppliers' for your PSP/NDSL/PS2 immediately when you paid in, how can now there be a shortage when the order should have gone through much, much earlier?

Due to parallel goods and the holiday season? Ha!

Then when buyers started demanding a time frame for delivery, he increased the prices. Why did the wise Strongbaby do this? With the extra 'profit' from increased prices, he could cover what had been paid by earlier buyers.

And around and around the money rolls. But who gets the goods? No one knows. Except Strongbaby and he is not telling or being fair in who receives what and when - just look at the list of PAID buyers and the list of those who had goods delivered.

You might say, you misunderstand the numbers in the list is not in order. But if Strongbaby had been a conscientious seller, he should have taken the time to sort the list in order of payment and state the delivery schedule.

Actually, when asked to do this by people in this thread, Strongbaby refused. He didn't want to be responsible for late delivery.

In short, he refused to give transparency to what was happening with the bulk. Did he bother to update here when he knew shipment was going to be slow? No. Only when people complained and asked about delivery did he then give the excuse shipment was late, there was no stock... a litany of excuses which we swallowed because we did not think to question him.

Am I bitter? Yes. Bitterly disappointed in what should have been something to look forward to has become an ordeal in trying to either get my PSP or a refund. Do I feel cheated? Yes. Very much so.

To the buyers waiting for their PSPs, how long are you going to let Strongbaby string you along? When are you going to hold him accountable for failing to live up to his ETA delivery? How many excuses will you swallow before you have had your fill? The excuse of him being a slow seller doesn't hold water when he takes over a month to deliver your goods!

To Strongbaby, if you are indeed a man of honour and want to back up your claim as being a 'responsible and good' seller then you should do the ethical thing and:

a) refund the money to the buyers who want a refund.

b) close the sales temporarily and make good on your promises of delivery to waiting buyers.

If you don't, I really wonder how your moral compass swings.

Oh and have a merry Christmas since you can very well afford it now.

nagflar === MSI 8800 GT === 900 === 100 === 8-12-2007

REASON of the balance is change product order during the waiting time . so price diffrent is
RM100 .

he promise to pay back the rm100 balance . but sadly he dint do so .

thx

This post has been edited by nagflar: Dec 7 2007, 11:57 PM

nasib baik aku sempat dapat dvd burner LG

Dracoevo === NDSL + Samsung HDD 500GB + Samsung DVDRW === RM848 === RM848===8-12-07

(MSN History 28-11-2007 4.55pm)
Strongbaby - Your favourite hell and cheap seller: Welcome to Abizon.net says:
ok, asap try to ship out this week

I think strongbaby cannot make it last week, I suggest refund, tq

nagflar - balance will be the current amount he still owes you. Supposedly, if you buy an item and the price drops. He promises to refund you the balance... so that would be the balance... a balance that equals the amount paid would me that you haven't received your item.

is like this . we abt 10 ppl in graphic bulk . order 8800 GTS at rm900 . but when time move on new product 8800GT
come out with lower price RM800 . we change order to 8800 GT.

yes . he promise to pay me back the rm100 as refund . but he dint do so. so i guess this can be call refund rite ?

there is abt 10 ppl in strongbaby's graphic crad bulk which is same situation like me .

This post has been edited by nagflar: Dec 8 2007, 12:03 AM

So you got your cards just not the balance of the payment? Ok sticking ya in.

yes . can do refund rite / thx

From his reply i feel he is arrogant and his fav quote is something like "If you believe then keep on waiting" something like that

how long he need to refund the money? cos mine oso kena @rm880 on the processor list.

This the Notice List so to speak so he can see who is asking for refund without having to go through his own threads as well as for other to see who is asking for refunds. Whether he wants to refund you is up to him. Of course, should he decide not to do it... well that will prove to be very bad for him.

if he don't want to refund the money will it considered burn or not?