without a degree, it's hard for your wife to request higher salary as most company will press down your wife salary.
almost all big company will look for paper qualification when deciding the salary. without it, they will press it very low..

honestly do u want to work all your life?

I have 1 property just by collecting rental and doing nothing i get 3K monthly.

Look at the bigger picture then just work for the sake of working.

let me put it this way
bill gates was once the richest person in the world
he did dropped out of college.
i think being ranked as the richest person in the world
he went back and finished his degree

some people just want a sense of accomplishment,
some people just want an education
some people just want better pay

degree for sense of accomplishment, ok
degree for education, errr.. sometimes this doesn't work out.
degree for better pay.. sometimes this doesn't work out

i've seen people like me, classified as "morons" who get better pay then people who are smarter than me.

i've seen diploma students who are more competent than people with masters
i've seen diploma students earning at least 3 times what the masters are earning. at the same age. +- 1 or 2 years.

my point is
a higher qualification doesn't guarantee a better pay,
but the bosses sometimes have to make decisions because they will be audited.
two people equally impressive, one with a degree, one with a diploma,
the general manager will question the store manager, why the diploma guy was given a promotion over the degree guy
but if its the other way around, no questions asked.
so the store manager, who wants to keep things as simple as possible promotes the degree guy.

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Added on November 19, 2008, 11:02 pmsyukur?
yes.
but the malays should be familiar with this as well
work like you are gonna live to be a thousand
pray like you are gonna die tommorow

yes
syukur.

i was happy getting a small wage before this.
syukur.
yes.

then i read this thread and saw that i was being underpaid.
i looked around.
yes.
syukur.

syukur i looked around.

This post has been edited by ttwangsa: Nov 19 2008, 11:02 PM

Education doesn't always match Earning. No it doesn't.

Most Business owner does not finish primary but have lot's of degree holder as worker. fact ?

somehow.... earning big bucks comes from your own hardwork. it does not matter if ur a degree holder/master holder or a diploma holder. but i do admit master n degree holders DOES get shortlisted more often compared to diploma holders meaning ur cert is to get u into the company.... from then on... its your hard work and deligence.

certain indusrty need certain criteria. some will prefer experience to qualification and vice versa. but i do believe what makes u successful is not your qualification, its your attitude.

if your in education line, dont say la... minimum now is master i think if u wanna get higher pay. so to speak.... diff industry needs different criteria.

Job Title : Senior Consultant
Job Desciption : Human Capital Consultant
Years spent in company : Recently Joined
Company : One of the Big 4
Industry : Professional Services
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : Senior Exec
Experience before joining : HR Manager (Local GLC Telecommunication Company)
salary : RM 10k (previous pay in GLC RM 5++k)

how many years u spent in this field and may i ask how old are you?that seems as a good pay job for me and definitely goable haha....

to be managers, you probably need at least 8 years in the field.
but if you are good, maybe less time. 5 years exp is possible, maybe less.

Age : 17
Job Title : Student
Job Desciption : Study or get scold
Years spent in company : 5 years ( 2004 to 2008 )
Company : Sabah Tshung Tsin Secondary School
Industry : Art and business
Tenure : permanent
Experience before joining : 6 years primary school
salary : RM 250
Remark: 6 days per week ...

its that a job to? hahaha ... quite envy you guys with high salery...
i still dont know study what... as i already 17 years old...

Mid 30's....Spent 6 years on HR. Didn't do that well in college....but I guess I got the right skill and experience that they actually want at this particular time...and with some luck and rezeki too....

This post has been edited by aabrahim: Nov 21 2008, 09:24 AM

ya..real goodleh 10k haha...add oil...you will excel in it i think...i am an accountant,age 35 now...still at 8k mark only...sigh...damn low man...

i got 6 years working experience and only manage to be manager level in the 6th year. hahaha...

Wah, looking at all these posters I feel a little overwhelmed, but I guess I can't complain much.

Job Title : Assistant Manager
Job Desciption : Knowledge Management
Years spent in company : Recently Joined
Company :Telco
Industry : Telco
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : AM
Experience before joining : Consultant for GLC MOF company
salary : RM 6k (previous pay in GLC RM 3.8k)

good for you too.. im still struggling my life at audit firm(big4)..

if i were to go into commercial field by next year(when i got my CPA), how much shud i request? based on the rate of sarawak..

and how do you get the property?
need to work and earn enough money to buy one also right?

yaloh how much a chartered should request a?how old are you a yiivei?i qualified at age 29...quite old thou... T_T

My soon to be former job.

Job Title : Senior sw engineer
Job Desciption : Writing sw
Years spent in company : 6+
Company : Telco
Industry : Telco
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : Long way down.
Experience before joining : Fresh
salary : RM 5.8k

why experient is 6 but ur expieirnce is fresh de?and what is sw engineer??...tak tahu apa tu haha can share?normally engineer that become contractor earn tonnes right?u plan to do that?haha

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Added on November 22, 2008, 7:48 pmthe engineer salary increasement high per year?my girlfriend's dad is an electrical engineer working for petronas..now earning 15k per month is it consider high?by the way...all the engineer in the end will take up the professional exam?does it make a different?

This post has been edited by taiko88: Nov 22 2008, 07:48 PM

What is the pay difference between ASP .NET, PHP and JAVA developer?
Assuming the similar level..

i think java gets paid the most
then dot net
then java

don't know that many dot net developers

java and php are relatively open source
but php is scripting, so most hard core programmers think of it as a toy.