yah i am saving money for Amd phenom and going to upgrade my old faithful comp which is a Amd Sempron 2800 + that has been around since 2005 and still kick ass

^ well well well good for you. me? i'm still under great consideration to go intel. haih

Anadtech was miffed that they are trying to be too much like Intel when Intel is now going the AMD way. And also the fact that they feel the tahoe trip was a waste of money on AMD's part

Can I play crysis smoothly with this processor?

better go with Intel Processor.

My bro using E6550 core 2 duo with 8800 ultra can play smoothly.
ram 2gb
anything quad should be ok i guess

The AMD quad is not worth it you can read the full review here http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/11/19/the...weaves_its_web/

As it seems even an Intel E6550/E6600 can match its performance!!

Actually the processor has not much effect in Crysis. Maybe just 2-3 fps.

Even Phenom priced lower than smallest Q6600, the processor cannot even stable at 3GHz. New revision may solve this but it may be too late coz Penryn superior clocks.

how much for amd x4?

Should be around Q66 price

-pWs-

Not necessarily, i suspect the market they are targeting at is to be the mainstream, so next year Q1 2008, the price would be quite competitively priced against Intels offerings

They cut down a little, but not on the engineering side. And by the time AMD bought them, the R600 was pretty much done (and b0rked) already. So the failure has nothing to do with AMD buying them.


It cannot adjust the vcore and vNB independently. Speed adjustment still works. And the phenom cannot adjust the vcore of each core independently. All cores share a common voltage.


AMD taken over = intel can terminate their x86 license.
Yes they lost money, but never on this scale. It will take them years to make up for what they lost.

So meaning that if AMD was taken over, it would literally spell the end of AMD processors as we know it?

And does that also mean that intel does not want AMD to go bust as well?

Pls enlighten this noob, ikanayam

The x86 license agreement with intel has some clauses that say that intel can terminate the license if AMD goes bankrupt or gets bought over.

Deep down inside, intel wants AMD to go bust. Else they wouldn't be pushing as hard as they are now. Of course publicly they have to say they like competition and whatnot, but intel wants to be a monopoly, if possible. And i think they see TSMC as their main competition in the future, not AMD, because unless AMD pulls off another K8 within the next year or so, i don't think they will ever fully recover from this hit. In less than a year, i think they have lost more money than they have ever made in their entire existence (certainly more than they made the last 10 years).

Intel is evil,amd is trying everything they can to prevent them from monopoly

No, amd just wants to make money. They are not doing it for any other reason. Certainly there is no noble cause involved.

This post has been edited by ikanayam: Nov 21 2007, 03:22 AM

I see, but i thought US had antitrust laws that prevent monopolization from happening? ( Microsoft excluded)
And would you feel AMD's borrowed time is limited if they do not make another K8 miracle within the next 1 year?



haha yeap
Same goes to intel

Q1 2008 will be my next move to the quad AMD set.

^ wait but does this means if no amd then no x86?