Phenom's a disappointment if u ask me.... Better wait for better ones to come out.... the 2.66GHz comes out later but dunno got improvements or not.... I guess it will be the same....

Price/Performance ratio is crap compared to both of the Intel's proc, even if it's cheaper. Which is suprising considering teh hype I've read about this proc. And I'm looking forward for Intel to slash down their price too...

Me too hope so as Penrynn ans Phenom launched.

I don't recall any of such claim. Link?

Quoted from page 10...

"Therefore, the Phenom processor does not require a new motherboard with Socket AM2+. The CPU will run in a socket AM2 board as well without any problems. In this case, the processor reverts to either Hypertransport 2.0 or 1.0, depending on the motherboard and operates completely normally. A BIOS update may be required, though. Even future processors manufactured on a 45 nm process and supporting DDR3 memory will run in socket AM2 and AM2+ boards. The 45 nm CPUs are slated for release in 2009 and will add support for socket AM3."
It's very interesting to know that AM3 will run in AM2 boards. This is a big plus for the AMD platform I guess.

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/Virtual...~117115,00.html

Yup, this really interest. Just like AM2 support AM2+

I thought that Phenom is going to replace Athlon in the future. So there will be Phenom X4 first to launch, then Phenom X3 (disable 1 core) and lastly Phenom X2. No?

Check this:



from this site.

the price place it squarely against Q6600, which the performance is about the same, roughly (Q6600 sometimes beats it but at a very small, not-practically-noticeable margin)

What AMD need to do is actually sell them cheaper than Q6600, and they need to do it fast because intel may cut Q6600 price when all the new 45nm processor is in the market.

If AMD waits for intel to cut their price, nobody is going to buy it. They have to bring their price down to be the cheapest quad core CPU, right now, so they will sort of like be a budget quad core and people will actually buys it. Those who looking to set up a budget quad core system will go for AMD. They have to do it now if they wants a share of the market

ever u guy wonder nvidia is creating chipset to support amd phenom using 7series chipset... on the other side nvidia is fighting with ATI for king of GFX

what to do.. nvidia pair with penryn also got problem.. need bios update..
atleast nvidia can create for budget line..

whutever~~
a bit dissappointment for amd, huge dissappointment for me, buying intel's...
~sigh~

If the pricing on Anandtech is correct, the 2.3Ghz is priced HIGHER than the Q6600 and performs a dismal 14% lower. The nearest challenger would be the unreleased 9900, and even that is projected to JUST match the Q6600

or maybe just wait for AMD Fusion

The price can be change after Phenom X4 launch, AMD will has their own business plans. What we should wonder are the price is cheap or expensive...

personally.. i think AMD is rather slow in term of product launching nowadays ... if AMD cannot compete ... then it gonna be reaalllly bad news for us as consumer

Seems that amd is banking on current amd platform users to upgrade to phenom. No reason for anyone (besides fanboyism) to get a phenom for a new pc. Thats not a good marketing strategy imo.

Dunno when will AMD beat Intel again???Really hope that AMD can come out best processor to beat Intel!!Waiting for that moment to come!!

they are having trouble rolling out the new chips. if im not wrong anand believes AMD will lower the Phenom prices. even if they cant afford to, they will.