Bro,phenom is k10 family and its from AMD.

Oh ya,it will be cheaper than INTEL.

Yeah AMD should put it cheaper then Intel if not they'll lose out in the market.From the benchmark given,it's not even beating the intel's Q6700.

wonder why ibm does not market their own x86 procs....they will totally pawn!

At 1 point in time they did but they couldn't do it economically well enough (read: lose money) so they gave up.
x86 is pretty much an Intel vs AMD thing with VIA being a spectator. IBM prefers to just do research and license the IP.

The one who has the performance crown dictates the pricing game: Intel is literally choking AMD to death by forcing them to sell their procs at a loss. HUge die + bad yields + poor performance = loss.

If AMD going for low price business, AMD fans or any others business or home user can gain a lot to buy powerful processor with low price

They did? I don't recall any ibm chip being x86. I don't think they ever had a license.

It's really not intel's fault that AMD is dying right now. AMD choked AMD to death by being lame. It's been 4 years since the K8 which was very forward looking for its time, and all they could come up with is the K10, which looks like a rushed project after learning about core2. It even looks like a K10 with an extra FPU tacked on to the side (and at a core level that is really the main thing they did). Had they made decent incremental improvements to the K8 core with every shrink, they would not be in this situation. They just lost their way after K8.

means now in few years we will not see amd again? seriously dont like when times come like 1995/6, when Intel conquering market alone.

No, initial price shows that it's more expensive

It's not powerful in relative to other processor in the market that's why it's cheap
If it is, it won't be cheap.

Either you get a powerful processor or a budget one, you cant have both in one

I don't think they will go bankrupt anytime soon. They should survive this, although it will take a very long time to recover.

Worst case, they may just settle into the budget segment, offering budget platforms and CPU, IMO...

uh... finally it's out.
I DO believe that AMD are going to lowered their price soon.

So, the battle between Penryn and Phenom going to last how long
1 year? 2 year?
My bet, 1 and a half year...zzz JK.

Amd phenom price has been release

Phenom 9600 (2.3GHz, 95W, 2MB total dedicated L2 cache, 2MB L3 cache, 3600MHz HyperTransport(tm) bus, socket AM2+)

Price $283


Phenom 9500 (2.2GHz, 95W, 2MB total dedicated L2 cache, 2MB L3 cache, 3600MHz HyperTransport(tm) bus, socket AM2+)

Price $251

Phenom's retail packaging.



More pictures here:

http://infomars.fr/forum/index.php?showtopic=1052


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box art looks cool anyone here planning to buy and test it out ??

This post has been edited by Laguna: Nov 22 2007, 01:23 PM

Is that in 1000 units or retail?

The artwork is pretty good but the cooler looks el cheapo.

retail price

source http://www.amd.com/pricing

Standard issue AMD cooler. what do you expect? LEDs? lol

bleh at that price, if Intel even prices it's Penryn C2Q's higher then it is now, it'll still be cheaper

yup and i check out amazon.com and i found out that 9600 and 9500 will be available for preorder on amazon and will be release on Nov 26, 2007. While 9700 will be release Jan 1, 2008.

Source http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_pc/002-6...+phenom&x=0&y=0



This post has been edited by Laguna: Nov 23 2007, 10:40 PM

price list was release? able to beat penry or not?

Nope currently with the current speed cant compete with penry but it still can perform