I don't see there's any 3.5mm audio jack for the W960, kinda render walkman phone useless in a way, but I'm sure there's remote control but you can't charge during music listening if it's a usual SE dock port.

However, battery life sure W960 win lo. N95 8GB has slightly better spec that you might not need, also for the features, I think W960 will be chaper than N95 8GB. Think about it...

i have this warnig before. when i press reply 2-3 time then it will happen.
by the way, when i use reply to enter the message composer is slower compare to i use new message. is this normal? i mean when i press create new message, it will enter instantly. but when i press reply, then have to wait few second

Actually I want N95 8gb too, but since w960 has stylus so i believe it helps me a lot in browsing wifi.

many also seen this is an advantage for w960 compared n95-8gb...

The lack of touchscreen is indeed a disadvantage to all nseries. But they are coming out with S60 Touch next year... I really hope they come out with phone as great as N95 + touchscreen! Wallau... I will definitely get one.
I like W960 a lot actually... but it is such a let down on the camera department! 3.15MP only! They shud have just put 5MP camera if they really want to compete. Sigh.
Apart from no GPS... but GPS is not that important factor, especially when u stay in Malaysia lah.

But I've to admit... if only this phone comes with 5MP camera, I might have bought that instead of N95 I am the biggest sony fan before N95, hehehe.

But 3.2 & 5 MP don't make big difference I guess? Compare the 3.2 pixx by K800 & N95. K800's 3.2 still win.

Hehe.. well maybe. But as far as I know, the K series camera is always better than the W series. So, I dont think those in W960 3.2MP camera can challenge the one in K800, let alone the N95 5MP. That is the downside of SE phones. They differentiate their phone so much... If you want good camera, K series. Sound wise, go for W series. Just look at P990 camera, it's 2MP is so suckie compared to other 2MP SE phones! So, I don't really think you can get the same quality 3.2MP camera in the K series in this W960 phone lor.

Actually even me also set to 3MP for casual shots only, 5MP is way overkill. However, I'm travelling to Macau soon so I'll set it to 5MP to capture all the nice nice scenes (the advantage of having the option to choose higher resolution).

Yeah the big problem with SE is that they simply don't want to come out with a "perfect" phone like Nokia did, pack everything inside. But they have their own market isn't it? Not every wants so many features. But then, no standard 3.5mm and USB port...Aww...I hate docking port...

Oh yeah, still, the N95 8GB video shooting is really the best I've seen, way more appealing than the megapixel wars...

AGREED You'd be really amazed when u watch the recorded video back with the TV output cable...

check the Righmark Audio Analyser(RMAA) results for Walkman series. that will change ur mind if u think W is superior in audio quality. actually it SUCK. nokia and samsung actually are better in audio department for some selected models. currently phone with best audio quality are nokia N91 and samsung i450

for RMAA results, go to mobile-review.com

edited for grammatical errors

This post has been edited by toughnut: Dec 5 2007, 05:20 PM

There is no way on earth would a camera of K800i beats the camera of n95. Please provide more evidence to support your assumption. Don't always listen to others. You should compare the pictures in N95 thread and also the one in K800i thread yourself. I was a K800i user before I switched to N95 and I can see the difference between them easily myself.

hahah, oh yeah? well... that means I made the right decision in getting Nokia N95 8GB then, lol!

Bug report!

Ok, the manual light compensation (EV +-) doesn't work with the positive setting! When set to e.g. EV-1 the brightness will lower down, however, set to anything +0.5~+2 will not have any effect at all! I'm not sure if this is normal, but I've seen the N82 camera shots and it actually functional even though the picture came out too bright! It's a manual setting after all right?

Firmware is v11, not sure if this applied to v10 as well...

Hehehe! Finally someone who uses both!
I used W800 before and the camera was indeed lousier than K750. So I know for a fact the camera quality between K and W series differ from each other
But then... on the sound part of N95, I feel that my old W800 is better lor.. maybe it's due to the megabass function? But I am not complaining about my N95 sounds... it's good enough, loud enough... and if you have a very good quality MP3, the sound is actually very very good.

i use k800i and n95 too!!

Hmmm my firmware is still V10, the EV+- is working well.

Dang...Should have learn from my girlfriend, she never update her firmware lol!

Nevermind, wait for the new firmware then...So sad haha update new firmware that add more bugs...

the increase doesnt show in the preview right? But when u took the pics, is the pic shows any effect?
After restart phone also still the same prob ah? I didnt update my firmware because my product code is tag with Singtel mah.. hehe. If not I also already update, haha.

No, both EV +- all preview very well, it's just after taking the photo with the positive setting, the picture will be no difference with normal setting (EV 0). However, negative setting seems to work after taking the picture too, picture come out darker as previewed.

More experiments with the TV out and the 3.5mm connector...

Well, the 3.5mm connector is very sensitive and won't accept anything that has non-standard size (certain headphones has slightly thicker diameter). Basically it'll detect good quality cables, but won't give a damn to chapalang cables. Also, how fast/slow you insert/unplug the jack will also affect the detection.

I tried a cheap china made AV cable for iPod video, totally cannot display (weird image) and produce annoying noise. Then I also tried it on the iPod video, it won't even detect it (it was OK and absolutely functional when my gf first got it, I guess the iPod 3.5mm port is also very sensitive). I use the original Nokia AV cable, and it was functional. So don't waste money on chapalang brand cables cause it's not worth it and waste money if so happened you lost your cable or cable spoiled (touch wood touch wood)...Also I found that if I unplug the AV cable too fast the phone will not resume to normal handset status and will remain on TV out...

On the other hand, the headphone cables. Yeah, I bought a Griffin (I think it's spelled that way) headphones RM100 (dang!), the diameter of the jack is slightly thicker so when insert it into the connector it'll just detect it as TV out no matter how hard I try. Then no choice I bought another good quality Sony headphone (RM119), an in-ear earbud headphones like those bundled with SE W series phones except it came with 50m cord + 1M extension cord (also the detachable ear frame that'll secure the headphone during jogging etc). No just the quality is even better, the rubber also very soft and easy on the ears, and most importantly the sound character goes really well with N95 8GB. Also, it has an L-shape connector. Highly recommend this, for the price I think it's really a good one. I probably will give the Griffin headphones for my brother. However, the Griffin actually very nice also (just not as clear as the Sony headphone), and it doesn't need as much power to drive the volume as the Sony headphone (means the Sony headphone will be softer compared to the Griffin with the same volume setting). I would have stick to that one if the connector has "normal" size...