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INTEL P4/PM 478/479 THREAD, >>V5<<, The Journey Continues Here!

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TSraymond5105	Nov 16 2007, 11:24 AM, updated 18y ago Show posts by this member only \| Post #1
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	V5 continues at here. Previous thread has reach the 2500 posts. PROUD P4 478 USERS Pentium 4 'C' Northwood/Gallatin (30cappers)/Pentium 4-M 800FSB HT 1) siauann - 2.8C @ 3.71 \| Abit IC7-G \| Corsair XMS XPERT ddr530 \| Leadtek 6600GT 2) zeustronic - 2.8C @ 3.3 \| Asus P4S800 \| A-Data ddr400 512mb2 \| Palit Radeon X800 3) d3x - 2.8C @ 3.08 \| Asus P4P800 Deluxe \| Hynix ddr400 512mb2 \| Sapphire Radeon X1600Pro 4) kucingfight - 2.8C @ 3.8 \| Abit AI7 \| Infeneon CE5 ECC ddr400 1gb2 \| Galaxy 6600 5) KahLooN - 2.6C @ 3.25 \| Abit AI7 \| Team Xtreme 512mb x 2 \| HIS x1950pro AGP 6) evilnickwong - 2.4C @ 3.0 \| Asus P4P800-E Deluxe \| A-Data Vitesta ddr500 512mb2 \| Grandmars 6600GT 7) raymond5105 - 2.6C @ 3.315 \| Asus P4P800-X \| Hynix BT-J ddr400 256mb4 \| Leadtek FX5900 7) raymond5105 - 3.2C @ 3.68 \| Abit IC7-G \| Kingston Hynix BT-D43 ddr400 512mb2 \| Gecube 9550XT 8) saiaha - 3.06C @ 3.24 \| MSI Neo 2 \| OCZ ddr400 512mb2 \| GeCube Radeon 9600XT 9) mulut99 - 2.8C @ stock \| Intel D865PERL \| Apacer ddr400 512mb2 \| nVidia FX5200 10) toch3 - 2.4C @ stock \| MSI P4M800 \| Kingston ddr400 512+Apacer ddr400 512mb2 \| Gigabyte Radeon 9550 11) enter - 3.2C @ stock \| Intel D865GBF \| Kingston ddr400 256mb4 \| ATI Radeon 9550 12) choongkeat - 2.8C @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Corsair DDR400 512MB2 \| Sapphire ATI Radeon X1950Pro 512MB DDR3 13) Nostalgia - 2.8C @ 3.22 \| Asus P4P800 \| OCZ EL Platinum Rev.2.0 ddr400 512mb2 \| PowerColor Radeon 9800 Pro 14) allenultra - 2.8C @ 3.3 \| Abit AI7 \| Kingston Hynix ddr400 512mb2 \| HIS Radeon 9550 15) glo - 2.8C @ 3.4 \| Asus P4C800 Deluxe \| Kingston HyperX ddr400 512mb2 \| XFX 7800GS 16) glo - 2.8C @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Geil ddr400 1gb \| XFX 6600GT 17) shift - 2.8C @ stock \| MSI 848P Neo V \| Transcend ddr400 512mb \| nVidia FX5200 18) AREA51 - P4-M 2.2 @ 3.12 \| Asus P4P800-X \| Apacer UCCC ddr520 512mb2 \| Leadtek 6800NU 19) jayhan - 2.6C @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Apacer ddr400 512mb2 \| GeCube Radeon 9550XT 20) allenultra - 2.4C @ stock \| Intel D865PERL \| Kingston Hynix ddr400 512mb2 \| HIS Radeon 9550 21) Jcsy - 2.4C @ 2.6 \| Dfi 865PE \| Kingston ddr400 512mb2 \| HIS IceQII Radeon X800Pro 22) iori_argami - 3.0C (es) @ stock \| Abit AI7 \| A-Data Vitesta ddr500 512mb2 \| Gigabyte Radeon 9600XT 23) altie - 2.6C @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Corsair XMS Pro LED ddr400 512mb2 \| Unika Radeon X800XT 24) altie - 2.8C @ stock \| MSI 865 Neo2 \| Kingston ddr400 512mb2 \| PowerColor Radeon 9800Pro 25) miraged - 2.4C @ 3.24 \| Asus P4P800-X \| Kingston HyperX ddr400 512mb2 \| ATI Radeon X800GTO 26) tyrion4 - 2.8C @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Corsair XMS ddr400 512mb2 \| ATI Radeon 9800Pro 27) momochi zabuza - 2.4C @ 3.0 \| Abit IS7-E \| Geil ddr400 512mb2 \| Galaxy Glacier 6800 28) kenling - 2.6C @ 3.2 \| MSI 865PE Neo 2-V \| Kingston ddr492 512mb2 \| Inno 3D 6600GT 29) almostthere - 2.8C @ 3.22 \| Abit IS7 rev. 1.0 \| 256Mb Infineon -5b2 \| GeForce FX5200 30) shinjite - 3.0GHz ES \| Abit IS7-E \| 2GB Aeneon DDR400 \| Leadtek NV FX5900XT 128MB 31) fo33il - 2.4c @ stock /color] \| [color=blue]Asus P4V8-X \| Kingston DDR400 512MB \| MSI nvidia Fx5200 32) merzchan - 2.4C \| Abit IS7-E \| 1.5 GB Kingston HyperX DDR400 RAM \| HIS Radeon 9600XT 128MB Turbo Edition 33)edministrator - 3.0C @ 3.3 \| Asus P4P800 \| APACER 512MB x 4 \| 7600GS DDR3 34)kabukiawie - 2.8C @ 3.36 \| Asus P4P800-X \| Kingmax 512mb 2 \| Galaxy 7300GT 35)ryu00717 - 2.8c @ stock \| Asus P4P800se \| Kingston pc3200 dual 1GB \| Sapphire X1650pro DDR3 36)busta_dude - P4 3.2GHz@ stock - ASUS P4P800-X - XFX 7800GS EE 37)carlito - 2.6C@stock \| Intel D865PERL \| kingston DDR400 5122 \| GeForce FX5200 38)speedguy10 - 2.8C @ stock \| MSI 865 Neo2 \| Geil DDR400 256mb2 \| MSI FX5200. 39)deale30 - 2.4C @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Kingston ddr400 256mb2 \| Sapphire ATI Radeon 9250 Pentium 4 'B' Northwood 533FSB 1) pengster - 2.4B @ 2.8 \| MSI Neo2-V \| Kingston ddr400 512mb2 \| Palit6800GS 2) gmail - 2.66B @ 3.2 \| Asus P4P800S-X \| Kingston ddr333 512mb \| Asus MX440 3) QD_buyer - 2.8B @ stock \| Asus P4V8X-MX \| Corsair XMS ddr400 512mb \| Sapphire Radeon X1600Pro 4) wk1168 - 2.66B @ stock \| Intel D865PERL \| Kingston ddr400 512mb2 \| Asus GeForce 3 5) kramuse - 2.4B @ stock \| MSI 645E Max-U SiS645DX \| Kingston ddr333 512mb \| MSI FX5700 6) rg470 - 2.4B @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Kingston ddr333 512mb2 \| EVGA 7600GS 7) helangkawi - 2.4B @ 3.06 \| Aopen AX4SPE-UN \| Kingston ddr400 512mb+Apacer ddr400 256mb \| GeCube Radeon 9550XT 8)Mooneyes - 2.4 GHz \| ASROCK P4VM890 \|KINGSTON KVR 512 X2\|GALAXY GEFORCE 7300GT 9)kevinwcw - 2.66GHz \| Gigabyte GA-81848P-G Mobo \| 1gb corsair value ram(512x2) \| Galaxy 6600GT 10)l3th9l - 2.4Ghz @ stock \| MSI 865PE NEO 2 \| Kingston DDR266 256MB x 2 \| MSI 256MB FX5600 11)zeipher - 2.4GHz @ 2.7Ghz \| Asus P4P800S-X \| 1x Kingston DDR333 512MB 1x Apacer DDR333 512MB \| MSI GeForce4200 Ti 12)Redundant - 2.4GHz @stock \| Intel 845PESV \| 2 512mb Kingston DDR333 \| Asus ATI 9550GE 256MB Pentium 4 'A' Northwood/Willamette 400FSB 1) hyperyouth_firepower - 2.4A @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Air ddr333 256mb2 \| His Radeon X1300 2) polisdirajasarawak - 1.8A @ stock \| Lite-On i845 \| Advance Module ddr266 512mb \| PowerColor Bravo Radeon 9600Pro 3) hihihehe - 2.8A @ stock \| Acer E61ML \| Apacer ddr400 512mb+Transcend ddr400 256 \| MSI 6600 4)Nemesis181188 1.8GHz/Asus P4P800 Deluxe/2x512mb Kingston/ Powercolor 9600pro 5)randoll - 2.8A @ stock \| Asus P4P800 \| Kingston 512mb2 Apacer 256mb2 \| XFX 7600GS 6)takezo88 - 1.7GHz \| asrock pmvm800 \| corsair 512mb 400 MHz \| ABIT 9600 xt Pentium 4 'E' Prescott 800FSB HT 1) Mowgli - 3.0E @ 3.75 \| Asus P4P800-E Deluxe \| Team X-Treem TCCD ddr600 512mb2 \| XFX 6800NU 2) sHawTY - 3.0E @ 4.00 \| Asus P4C800-E Deluxe \| Kingston ddr534 512mb2 \| ATI Radeon X1300 3) hurricane21 - 3.0E @ stock \| Abit AI7 \| Kingston HyperX ddr400 256mb2 \| Sapphire Radeon X1600Pro 4) mulut99 - 3.0E @ stock \| Asus P4C800 Deluxe \| Mushkin Enhance LVL2 ddr440 512mb2 \| nVidia 7800GS 5) ReaperOfSoul - 2.8E @ stock \| Intel D865GBF \| Kingston ddr440 512mb2 \| ATI Radeon 9550 6) tompok82 - 3.0E @ 3.75 \| Asus P4C800 Deluxe \| Kingston ddr500 512mb2 \| ATI Radeon X1300 7) barry80 - 2.8E @ stock \| MSI 865PE PLS \| Corsair ddr400 512mb2+256mb2 \| PoweColor Radeon 9600Pro 8) xinghuei - 3.2E @ stock \| DFI PT880ELF \| Corsair ddr400 512mb2 \| ATI Radeon 9200SE 9) wk1168 - 3.0E @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Corsair ddr400 512mb2 \| MSI 6600 Diamond 10) SkyDriver - 2.8E @ stock \| MSI PM8M-V \| Kingston Hynix ddr400 512mb2 \| Colorful X700 11) apexi78 - 2.8E @ stock \| Abit IC7-G \| Corsair XL Pro ddr400 512mb2 \| nVidia 7800GS 12) kcng - 2.8E @ stock \| Asus P4P8X \| Corsair XMS ddr400 256mb4 \| Leadtek 6600GT 13) Hitman66 - 3.0E @ stock \| Gigabyte GA-8I848P-G \| Kingston ddr400 512mb2 \| nVidia 6800XT 14) maxlim - 3.0E @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Corsair ddr400 512mb2 \| MSI 6600GT 15) kcng - 2.8E @ stock \| Asus P4P8-X \| Corsair XMS ddr400 256mb4 \| Leadtek 6600GT 16) kenling - 3.4E @ stock \| Abit IS7-E \| Kingston D43 ddr400 512mb2 \| BFG 6800Ultra OC 17) alexandros_18th - P4 3.0E @ Stock \| Asrock P4i65G \| Apacer 512 + Kingston 256 DDR400 \| Galaxy 7300GT 18)Fylon - 3.2E @ 4.017 \| Asus P4P800SE \| Patriot PDP Extreme Performance PC4200 512MB2 \| XFX GeFroce 6800GT 19)sang_karim - 3.0E @ 3.8\| Asus P4P800-SE \|OCZ Platinum PC3200 512MB x 2 \| 128 ATI RADEON 9250 \| 20)GCI99 - 3.0E @ 3.22 HT \| 2 1GB Kingston PC3200\|P4P800 - Duluxe\|6800 GT. 21)khai84siong - 3.0E@stock\| Gigabyte 8IPE-1000G\| KVR DDR 512MB\| XFX 7600GT 22) overclockalbert - 2.8E @ 3.8 \| Abit IC7 \| Elpida 512X2 \| Palit 6800GS 23)axern959 - 3.0E @ stock \| MSI PM8M-V \| Kingston DDR400 1GB + 256MB \| Leadtek Winfast 7600GT 24)herojack41 - 2.8E @ stock \| P4P800SE \| Kingston DDR400 1024MB \| Nvidia Geforce 6200A-Le 25)icp - 3.0E@stock \| MSI 865PE Neo2-PS \| Kingston DDR400 5122 \| ATI Radeon 9600XT 26)Ryeeson- 3.0 E @ stock \| ASUS P4P800 SE \|Kingstone DDR400 512mb4 \|XFX6600GT 27)joellim - 2.8E @ 3.3 \| ASRock P4i65G \| 2 512MB KVR \|HiS ATi X1650 Pro IceQ 28)sniperz11 - 3.0E @ 3.3 \| Asus P4P800-X \| Kingston ddr333 256mb3 \| HIS ATi Radeon 9550 Pentium 4 'A' Prescott 533FSB 1) kabukiawie - 2.4A @ 3.0 \| Asus P4P800-X \| Kingmax ddr400 512mb2 \| MSI Radeon 9800Pro 2) Freak` - 2.4A @ stock \| Abit IS7-E \| Kingston ddr400 512mb+256mb \| Asus Radeon 9200SE 3) iman_210 - 2.4A @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Kingston Hynix ddr400 512mb2 \| XFX 6600GT 4) mr_habuk - 2.4A @ stock \| Intel D865PERL \| Kingston ddr400 512mb2 \| GeCube Radeon 9550XT 5) nelza_ax - 2.4A @ 3.95 \| Abit IS7-EG2 \| Kingston DT-D43 ddr400 512mb \| MSI 6200 6) ToGo - 2.4A @ 3.0 \| Asus P4P800-E Deluxe \| Corsair VS ddr400 512mb2 \| Asus Radeon 9600XT 7) swhung - 2.4A @ 2.73 \| Gigabyte 8VM533M-RZ \| Kingston ddr333 512mb+Hynix ddr266 128mb \| PowerColor Radeon 9550 8) apek - 2.4A @ 2.73 \| Asus P4P800-X \| Kingston ddr400 512mb2 \| GeCube Radeon X1600Pro 9) apek - 2.8A @ stock \| Intel D865PERL \| Transcend ddr400 512mb2 \| Galaxy 6800NU 10) RokXIII - 2.4A @ 3.0 \| MSI i865PE Neo-2 \| Corsair ddr400 512mb \| Sapphire Radeon 9550PE 11) GameSky - 2.4A @ stock \| Asus P4V8X-X \| Apacer ddr333 512mb+Kingston ddr333 512mb \| ATI Radeon 9200SE Pentium M Dothan CTP-479 1) cycquest - 750 1.86 @ stock \| Asus P4P800-E Deluxe CTP-479 \| Apacer ddr400 512mb \| eVGA 6800Ultra Added on August 28, 2007, 10:21 am QUOTE(nelza_ax @ Jan 2 2007, 11:09 PM) USEFUL INFO FOR P4 478� Details of your P4 CPU Check all the P4 siblings n details n type of the cpu at the link above� Info share from wikipedia. Added on August 28, 2007, 10:24 am QUOTE(nelza_ax @ Jan 2 2007, 11:09 PM) Let's compete against each other for our old skool P4 478 machine...our machine can't compare wif those X2, FX, C2D.... P4 478 HALL OF FAME [TOP 20]* SUPER PI 1M 01. fylon - 3.2 @4.017GHz- 251MHz @2.5-3-3-8 - 33.532s 02. sang_karim 3.0GHz @3.8GHz - 254MHz @ 2.5-3-3-7 34.875s 03. nelza_ax - 2.4 @ 4.05GHz - 225.5MHz @ 2.5-3-3-7 - 35.641s 04. siauann - 2.8 @ 3.78GHz - 270.2MHz @ 2.5-3-3-6 - 36.64s 05. raymond5105 - 3.2 @ 3.68GHz - 230.3MHz @ 3-4-4-8 - 37.592s 06. colinwong89 - 3.0 @ 3.6GHz - 240MHz @ 2.5-4-3-7 - 37.968s 07. tyrion4 - 2.8 @ 3.78GHz - 216.4MHz @ 2.5-4-4-8 -� 39.641s 08. KahLooN - 2.6 @ 3.38GHz - 225MHz @ 2-3-3-5 - 39.953s 09. kabukiawie - 2.8 @ 3.29GHz - 235MHz @ 2-3-3-5 - 40.516s 10. RokXIII - 2.4 @ 3.23GHz - 168MHz @ 2-3-3-5 - 41.938s 11. kabukiawie - 2.8@3.361GHz 240MHz- 2.5-3-3-7 - 42.672s 12. khai84siong 3.0GHz@3.307GHz@ 220MHz @ 43s 13. choongkeat� 2.8GHz@stock - 200MHz - 2.5-3-3-8 -53.781s 14. pengster 2.4@2.7GHz @ 2.5-3-3-7 @ 150MHz - 56s . NORTHWOOD . PRESSCOTT SiSANDRA LITE 2007 . PROCESSOR ARITHMETIC 01. raymond5105 - 3.2 @ 3.68GHz - 9486 02. sang_karim- 3.0 @ 3.8GHz -9173 03. fylon - 3.0@ 3.6GHz - 9108 04. RokXIII - 2.4 @ 3.23GHz - 7262 05. choongkeat - 2.8@stock - 7149 06. kabukiawie - 2.4 @ 3.02GHz - 6780 07. pengster - 2.4@ 2.7GHz -5686 . MEMORY BANDWIDTH 01. sang_karim - 3.0@3.8GHz @254MHz @ 2.5-3-3-7 - 5985 02. raymond5105 - 3.2 @ 3.68GHz @ 230MHz @ 3-4-4-8 - 5525 03. fylon - 3.2@3.75GHz @235MHz - 2.5-3-3-6 5500 04. kabukiawie - 2.8 @ 3.36GHz� @ 240MHz @ 2-3-3-6 - 4974 05. RokXIII - 2.4 @ 3.23GHz @ 225MHz @ 2-3-3-5 - 4132 06. choongkeat- 2.8GHz @ stock @ 200MHz @ 2.5-3-3-8 - 3690 07. pengster - 2.4 - 2.7GHz @150MHz @ - 3247 . NORTHWOOD . PRESSCOTT P4 478/479 benchies. Link to V2 thread... Link to V3 thread... Link to V4 thread... This post has been edited by raymond5105: Feb 21 2008, 04:22 PM
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fylon	Nov 16 2007, 11:34 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #2
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Haha.. Still the same boss! Anyways, add in some new information to this thread? Link to V4.
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sang_karim	Nov 16 2007, 11:38 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #3
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	wah .. oredi V5 .... long live skt 478
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herojack41	Nov 16 2007, 11:38 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #4
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	kinda boring..... @fylon your hyper6+ sold de?
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TSraymond5105	Nov 16 2007, 11:42 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #5
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	wait fylon i will add in later. Stay tune.
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fylon	Nov 16 2007, 11:44 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #6
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Yup.. V5.. The legend is continue again. Previous thread only takes 2 months to reach 2.5k post eh. Thats fast alot! @herojack41 Yup. Sold to a a forumer from penang with the price i expected it to be.
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kabukiawie	Nov 16 2007, 12:11 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #7
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	hoho....so fast. nice lets warm up this thread. hehhee....... @herojack41 why so boring?? because of fylon's hyper6+ not sold to you?? if dont want boring, get the good 478 mobo and follow fylon's path. break the 4ghz wall then your life will be interesting. please refer to fylon... hehehe
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TSraymond5105	Nov 16 2007, 12:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #8
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	I think he's going to get high end gadget but hard to find,that's why feel boring.
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herojack41	Nov 16 2007, 01:05 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #9
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 16 2007, 12:11 PM) hoho....so fast. nice lets warm up this thread. hehhee....... @herojack41 why so boring?? because of fylon's hyper6+ not sold to you?? if dont want boring, get the good 478 mobo and follow fylon's path. break the 4ghz wall then your life will be interesting. please refer to fylon... hehehe haha....this gonna be fun,now im working as streamyx agent already lor....wanna earn some money to get a new rig or put alot of money into this 478socket. QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Nov 16 2007, 12:19 PM) I think he's going to get high end gadget but hard to find,that's why feel boring. yea....thats true
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TSraymond5105	Nov 16 2007, 01:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #10
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Haha,got one streamyx agent here.Anyone wants to apply strwamyx can look for him. @fylon,your Super PI result is already updated.
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herojack41	Nov 16 2007, 01:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #11
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	yaya......streamyx agent here wehhh...tolong sikit if u got friend wanna register...find me o thank you really appreaia @ray u got typo LOL This post has been edited by herojack41: Nov 16 2007, 01:26 PM
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shinjite	Nov 16 2007, 01:29 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #12
�ŞħĬΩĵΐŦ�� All Stars 19,321 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Klang	YOSH...S478 users, keep it up
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speedguy10	Nov 16 2007, 01:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #13
~Do not look at my avatar~ Senior Member 1,828 posts Joined: Sep 2004	So happy once i found out this thread. Add me into the list 2.8C @ stock \| MSI 865 Neo2 \| Geil DDR400 256mb*2 \| MSI FX5200 128MB 128bits.
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herojack41	Nov 16 2007, 01:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #14
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(speedguy10 @ Nov 16 2007, 01:33 PM) So happy once i found out this thread. Add me into the list 2.8C @ stock \| MSI 865 Neo2 \| Geil DDR400 256mb*2 \| MSI FX5200 128MB 128bits. har??now u only found out
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pengster	Nov 16 2007, 01:44 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #15
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	whoa.V5 already.not bad for a 5 year old(?) socket @fylon congratz man 33s on SuperPI is freaking fast already for a s478 rig and my rig still aint stable at 2.7Ghz. sigh.currently my PAT is fully enabled.do you guys think i should disable it?
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shinjite	Nov 16 2007, 02:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #16
�ŞħĬΩĵΐŦ�� All Stars 19,321 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Klang	QUOTE(pengster @ Nov 16 2007, 01:44 PM) whoa.V5 already.not bad for a 5 year old(?) socket @fylon congratz man 33s on SuperPI is freaking fast already for a s478 rig and my rig still aint stable at 2.7Ghz. sigh.currently my PAT is fully enabled.do you guys think i should disable it? Disbale it and try stability testing again
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KahLooN	Nov 16 2007, 02:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #17
~(^^)~ Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Cheras	Wee, already V5? Come come spam bit, hehe. BTW, juz change my ICE3Q cooler to my previous Zalman Fatality FS-V7. The temp is much better compare to the ICE3Q.
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edministrator	Nov 16 2007, 02:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #18
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(pengster @ Nov 16 2007, 01:44 PM) whoa.V5 already.not bad for a 5 year old(?) socket @fylon congratz man 33s on SuperPI is freaking fast already for a s478 rig and my rig still aint stable at 2.7Ghz. sigh.currently my PAT is fully enabled.do you guys think i should disable it? i disabled mine to reach a stable OC. so, u can try disable PAT to improve your stability/OC.
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TSraymond5105	Nov 16 2007, 02:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #19
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(KahLooN @ Nov 16 2007, 02:22 PM) Wee, already V5? Come come spam bit, hehe. BTW, juz change my ICE3Q cooler to my previous Zalman Fatality FS-V7. The temp is much better compare to the ICE3Q. Haha,V5 already. Since when you have change the cooler? Come come spam here.
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KahLooN	Nov 16 2007, 02:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #20
~(^^)~ Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Cheras	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Nov 16 2007, 02:26 PM) Haha,V5 already. Since when you have change the cooler? Come come spam here. Hoho, coz now in semester break. So this break go play with the card and change the cooler, pretty impressive compare to the previous cooler. So is there any OC attempt by the sc478 members? Havent been login since the past week coz at home no internet, now surfing from CC.
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TSraymond5105	Nov 16 2007, 02:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #21
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(speedguy10 @ Nov 16 2007, 01:33 PM) So happy once i found out this thread. Add me into the list 2.8C @ stock \| MSI 865 Neo2 \| Geil DDR400 256mb2 \| MSI FX5200 128MB 128bits. Added you in da list.Welcome to old school club. Added on November 16, 2007, 2:32 pm QUOTE(KahLooN @ Nov 16 2007, 02:30 PM) Hoho, coz now in semester break. So this break go play with the card and change the cooler, pretty impressive compare to the previous cooler. So is there any OC attempt by the sc478 members? Havent been login since the past week coz at home no internet, now surfing from CC. 4GHz in action from Fylon.You can see his Super PI...Damn fast..33s... This post has been edited by raymond5105*: Nov 16 2007, 02:32 PM
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KahLooN	Nov 16 2007, 02:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #22
~(^^)~ Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Cheras	Oh my, fylon~ 4GHz@33.xx sec, very very good. Im turn on.
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sang_karim	Nov 16 2007, 02:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #23
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(KahLooN @ Nov 16 2007, 02:30 PM) Hoho, coz now in semester break. So this break go play with the card and change the cooler, pretty impressive compare to the previous cooler. So is there any OC attempt by the sc478 members? Havent been login since the past week coz at home no internet, now surfing from CC. do u know fylon oredi hit 4GHz?
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KahLooN	Nov 16 2007, 02:47 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #24
~(^^)~ Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Cheras	QUOTE(sang_karim @ Nov 16 2007, 02:45 PM) do u know fylon oredi hit 4GHz? Juz now only know when raymond tell me. Anyway is nice for him able to hit 4GHz, really sweet indeed.
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TSraymond5105	Nov 16 2007, 02:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #25
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	sang,when are you going to hit 4GHz ? Hehe,you say when you are free you will run it.Weekend is coming already...
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kabukiawie	Nov 16 2007, 02:51 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #26
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	he didnt know that i think. since he mentioned that these days no internet. sang_karim, your did your si120 near to northbridge sink?? mine quite near and hardly put a fan on it. i have a TT 60mm fan, planning to put it on.
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sang_karim	Nov 16 2007, 03:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #27
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 16 2007, 02:51 PM) he didnt know that i think. since he mentioned that these days no internet. sang_karim, your did your si120 near to northbridge sink?? mine quite near and hardly put a fan on it. i have a TT 60mm fan, planning to put it on. wahh .. gonna cool ur nortbridge aaa ... wanna push more also aaa? gud..gud ... lets oc together gether .. .. i'm not sure bout mine but i think can put and fan on the nb heatsink .. the space to tight if i'm not mistaken ...
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fylon	Nov 16 2007, 03:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #28
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Woah.. Just few hours away then the thread got page 2. Old school spirit still burning high! @pengster Try disable the PAT function. I was having BSOD when hit 4GH with that function on. But once disable, things go flawless. @speedguy10 Welcome to the old school club. Spirit is burning high now. @Ray Thank for u update my new record. @KahLooN Ehehehe.. Hand itchy already? OC mode is turn on now? Come come.. Lets join the 4Gh club! Try 32s with 4.2Ghz! By then guys.. I found that the placing of aluminum fin on my BT is too near. Maybe that mekes the temp rise up. No wander most of the reviews that this cooler only shine with high cfm fan.
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shinjite	Nov 16 2007, 03:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #29
�ŞħĬΩĵΐŦ�� All Stars 19,321 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Klang	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 16 2007, 03:41 PM) Woah.. Just few hours away then the thread got page 2. Old school spirit still burning high! @pengster Try disable the PAT function. I was having BSOD when hit 4GH with that function on. But once disable, things go flawless. @speedguy10 Welcome to the old school club. Spirit is burning high now. @Ray Thank for u update my new record. @KahLooN Ehehehe.. Hand itchy already? OC mode is turn on now? Come come.. Lets join the 4Gh club! Try 32s with 4.2Ghz! By then guys.. I found that the placing of aluminum fin on my BT is too near. Maybe that mekes the temp rise up. No wander most of the reviews that this cooler only shine with high cfm fan. PAT is not really recommended for high frequencies unless your RAM can take it
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TSraymond5105	Nov 16 2007, 03:51 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #30
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	I always on my PAT ,just maybe this is one of the reason why my proc got stuck in 229FSB.
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fylon	Nov 16 2007, 03:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #31
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Yea ray. It might the reason that hold u on that speed.. Try disable it and push ur rigs again.. Maybe 3.8Gh is awaiting u..
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kabukiawie	Nov 16 2007, 04:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #32
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	true also, PAT really kills the oc performance. will try to see how does it go with PAT disabled. @sang_karim as your hfs almost like mine, so just want to ask. as my northbridge is hotter than my cpu, so think of a way to cool it down. @raymond the PAT you mentioned is the memory performance mode in advanced setting?
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blonely	Nov 16 2007, 04:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #33
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	wait me guys~~i will join u guys soon enuf~~ haha.... hunting gadget.... really quite crowded here recently...more and more ppl ad..~~ btw, how to check the cache of the processor? such as cache L1 and L2. dunno how to read from cpuz...
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TSraymond5105	Nov 16 2007, 04:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #34
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 16 2007, 03:53 PM) Yea ray. It might the reason that hold u on that speed.. Try disable it and push ur rigs again.. Maybe 3.8Gh is awaiting u.. ERm...to disable it.I think this can be done in bios mode there under my GAT settings or some other place.Not very also.I am using my mobo with PAT enable when the first day i got my mobo. I know how to use software to disable it only. QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 16 2007, 04:24 PM) true also, PAT really kills the oc performance. will try to see how does it go with PAT disabled. @sang_karim as your hfs almost like mine, so just want to ask. as my northbridge is hotter than my cpu, so think of a way to cool it down. @raymond the PAT you mentioned is the memory performance mode in advanced setting? I think should be there.Not sure because until right now i'm not sure how to enable/disable PAT in bios. Added on November 16, 2007, 4:43 pm QUOTE(blonely @ Nov 16 2007, 04:37 PM) wait me guys~~i will join u guys soon enuf~~ haha.... hunting gadget.... really quite crowded here recently...more and more ppl ad..~~ btw, how to check the cache of the processor? such as cache L1 and L2. dunno how to read from cpuz... This is showed from CPU-Z there. L1 - 16k and L2 512k/1MB. This post has been edited by raymond5105: Nov 16 2007, 04:43 PM
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kabukiawie	Nov 16 2007, 04:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #35
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	i thought you mentioned about p4p800x bios there.
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blonely	Nov 16 2007, 04:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #36
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	does this mean my cpu is 1Mb cache? http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a130/bluesboy88/cpuz.jpg
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sang_karim	Nov 16 2007, 04:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #37
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 16 2007, 04:24 PM) @sang_karim as your hfs almost like mine, so just want to ask. as my northbridge is hotter than my cpu, so think of a way to cool it down. ur nb is hotter than ur cpu aaa?? i dunno how mine cooled down but normally it's around 38C - 41C ... maybe my air flow in casing better than urs kot? 2x80mm fan exhaust at back of the casing and open 1 front bay cover for air to come in ... then 1x80mm fan at side panel as intake ... my 120mm CM LED fan is blowing downward just like urs b4 ... how bout urs?
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shinjite	Nov 16 2007, 04:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #38
�ŞħĬΩĵΐŦ�� All Stars 19,321 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Klang	Raymond, to disbale PAT in BIOS is not in the GAT settings Its the PSB settings in an Abit mobo This post has been edited by shinjite: Nov 16 2007, 04:57 PM
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kabukiawie	Nov 16 2007, 05:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #39
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(sang_karim @ Nov 16 2007, 04:54 PM) ur nb is hotter than ur cpu aaa?? i dunno how mine cooled down but normally it's around 38C - 41C ... maybe my air flow in casing better than urs kot? 2x80mm fan exhaust at back of the casing and open 1 front bay cover for air to come in ... then 1x80mm fan at side panel as intake ... my 120mm CM LED fan is blowing downward just like urs b4 ... how bout urs? yes, its hotter. around 40+-. my cpu <30C. coz the casing in my rig now not good airflow. so just open it. seems yours are alot better than mine.
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TSraymond5105	Nov 16 2007, 05:29 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #40
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 16 2007, 04:48 PM) i thought you mentioned about p4p800x bios there. Oh,for Asus P4P800-X is under that but this mobo cannot enable PAT. QUOTE(shinjite @ Nov 16 2007, 04:56 PM) Raymond, to disbale PAT in BIOS is not in the GAT settings Its the PSB settings in an Abit mobo I see. PSB there.533 to disable the PAT right? Added on November 16, 2007, 6:09 pmshinjite,i know already. I think i read some reviews before on what PSB can disable the PAT features.But i've to find back those informations and see. Added on November 16, 2007, 6:10 pm@kabu,I think if my mobo(Abit does the same way to enable the PAT,Asus P4P800-X also can do the same thing.We need to do some homework already.For my Asus mobo,usually i enable it by using software to do that. This post has been edited by raymond5105: Nov 16 2007, 06:10 PM
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overclockalbert	Nov 16 2007, 06:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #41
Regular Senior Member 1,058 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Penang , Malaysia	@raymond, pls update this : before : 3.2C @ 3.52Ghz \| Abit IC7 \| Corsair C2PT Winbond UTT ddr440 512mb*2 \| Palit 6800GS after : 2.8E @ 3.8Ghz \| Abit IC7 \| Elpida 512X2 \| Palit 6800GS thanks
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herojack41	Nov 16 2007, 08:44 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #42
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	i wan OC also kenot ...hope to join you guys later next week im gonna start findding ppl to register streamyx de only got money lai lai....support abit if u got friend remember tell them find me o...or tell me they contact
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TSraymond5105	Nov 16 2007, 11:05 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #43
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@overclockalbert ,updated your profile. THanks.
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fylon	Nov 16 2007, 11:11 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #44
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Wow.. Just a day on new thread and it got 3 page flooded already. Seems like the old school spiriting is burning high now. So ray, any improvement on ur rigs after disable the PAT? I think it should be can help u in pushing ur proc at least 3.8Gh right? P/s: Ray help me update my system can? Fylon - 3.2E @ 4.017G \| Asus P4P800SE \| Patriot PDP Extreme Performance PC4200 512MB2 \| XFX GeFroce 6800GT Thank u! This post has been edited by fylon*: Nov 16 2007, 11:13 PM
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TSraymond5105	Nov 16 2007, 11:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #45
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	I think haven't try that.Haha,just went back from Tesco only.I will only try when i'm really free loh.Now just feeling want to play C&C 3. 3.8GHz i feel maybe is a bit far for me.HEhe.
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fylon	Nov 16 2007, 11:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #46
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Hah.. I was playing C&C 3 now. A good game.. Practice the brain cell alot. Gotta think alot for this game. As the game is running on real time strategy. Oh yea! Help update my profile ya! Do let us know after u try yer system with PAT disable.
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TSraymond5105	Nov 16 2007, 11:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #47
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Sure fylon,i will let you all know when i disable PAT. Between u like C&C 3? Oh,have forgotten to update your profile in the CPU part there.
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sang_karim	Nov 16 2007, 11:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #48
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	guys ...i think mine can't reach 4Ghz la .. maybe need some extreme cooling and tweaking to reach that ... highest can go is 3.8GHz but not run any stability test ... here my setting ... Vcore = 1.475V Vdimm = 2.75V Vagp = 1.6V FSB = 255MHz can't load windows ..will hang ... here the screenie ... FSB = 254MHz with 2.5-3-3-7 timing ... i think oredi hit da wall la ...
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kabukiawie	Nov 16 2007, 11:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #49
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	this old school thread going crazy, just created 1 day already 3 pages. glad to see that getting more and more user joining and share oc experience here. i really like this spirit/ 478 still growing strong!!! @raymond are you refering to disable PAT in windows? this can be dont using tweak865 IMO. what program you use to disable the PAT??
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TSraymond5105	Nov 16 2007, 11:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #50
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	sang and fylon,updated your profile in the first page already. @sang,nice o/c you have and the Super PI is very good.Congratulations.CAn be almost par with fylon. Added on November 16, 2007, 11:27 pm@kabu,i'm using MemSet30 or Tweak865/875 software.You can download easily from the internet. This post has been edited by raymond5105: Nov 16 2007, 11:27 PM
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sang_karim	Nov 16 2007, 11:27 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #51
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Nov 16 2007, 11:25 PM) sang and fylon,updated your profile in the first page already. @sang,nice o/c you have and the Super PI is very good.Congratulations.CAn be almost par with fylon. yeah..almost par but can't join his 4GHz club la ... ... just don't dare to increase the vcore more than 1.475V ...
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TSraymond5105	Nov 16 2007, 11:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #52
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(sang_karim @ Nov 16 2007, 11:27 PM) yeah..almost par but can't join his 4GHz club la ... ... just don't dare to increase the vcore more than 1.475V ... I bet you can do better than fylon if running at the same speed with him.
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kabukiawie	Nov 16 2007, 11:31 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #53
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@raymond i used that before. once it pass through 200fsb, the PAT automatically disabled. so i normally use it to enable the PAT. sang can get this good result maybe due to the high fsb. now his fsb almost onpar with fylons. just fylons multiplier is 16, sang_karim's is 15. @sang_karim thats a nice score. i think maybe your ram require more vdimm, pump a bit higher to 2.8v and see how it goes. the vcore i think it wont hurt much if you add a bit more to 1.5v. Prescott running at vcore 1.5v shouldnt be safe, provided its tep is under control. Just my 2 cents. correct me if i am wrong. This post has been edited by kabukiawie: Nov 16 2007, 11:32 PM
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sang_karim	Nov 16 2007, 11:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #54
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Nov 16 2007, 11:28 PM) I bet you can do better than fylon if running at the same speed with him. i've read sum review that my ram can do 275MHz at 3-4-4-8 ... if can do surely can join that 4GHz club ... just dun have that tweaking skills ... the temp kindda ok ...rite now mobo = 37C and cpu = 44C .. maybe need to pump more juice that i don't dare to do ...
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sHawTY	Nov 16 2007, 11:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #55
Frequent Reporter All Stars 14,909 posts Joined: Jul 2005	Wah, sudah V5. Kuatnya korang SPAM. Anyone here has beaten my 4GHz mark?
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TSraymond5105	Nov 16 2007, 11:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #56
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 16 2007, 11:35 PM) Wah, sudah V5. Kuatnya korang SPAM. Anyone here has beaten my 4GHz mark? Hi borther long time no see.fylon sudah pecah 4GHz....What was your time for Super PI last time ?i've updated at the first page there.
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sang_karim	Nov 16 2007, 11:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #57
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 16 2007, 11:35 PM) Wah, sudah V5. Kuatnya korang SPAM. Anyone here has beaten my 4GHz mark? fylon did bro ... back at V4 .. have u check it yet? bro, highest vcore boleh pegi sampai berapa? stuck kat 3.8GHz nih .. This post has been edited by sang_karim: Nov 16 2007, 11:40 PM
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kabukiawie	Nov 16 2007, 11:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #58
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	haha......at last abang sHawTY shows up. his 4ghz record really pecah liao. fylon is the man!!! superPI running at 33s!! damn insane. @sang_karim why dont you just try loosen the timing to 3-4-4-8 then push till limit. after hit the wall, tighten it up.
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TSraymond5105	Nov 16 2007, 11:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #59
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Your vCore around 1.5v almost,i think 1.5v onwards need good cooling on Prescott core right ?
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sHawTY	Nov 16 2007, 11:43 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #60
Frequent Reporter All Stars 14,909 posts Joined: Jul 2005	QUOTE(sang_karim @ Nov 16 2007, 11:38 PM) fylon did bro ... back at V4 .. have u check it yet? bro, highest vcore boleh pegi sampai berapa? stuck kat 3.8GHz nih .. Ala, tak adil, fylon uses Pentium 4 3.2E. I'm using Pentium 4 3.0E mah. I used 1.45Volts to overclock my 3.0E to 4GHz. I still remember that. Stable all the way for Orthos 24 Hours, 3Dmark01, 3Dmark03 However, do take note that at that time, i'm using ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe & ASUS P4P800-E-Deluxe which is the highest end motherboard for Intel Socket 478 processors. I love those boards.
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sang_karim	Nov 16 2007, 11:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #61
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	@kabukiawie oredi set to 3-4-4-8 at 255MHz but stuck .... that's i'm tighten the timing at 254MHz .... btw have google and found that the highest vcore for prescott is 1.525V ... gonna pump sum juice more ...
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TSraymond5105	Nov 16 2007, 11:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #62
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 16 2007, 11:43 PM) Ala, tak adil, fylon uses Pentium 4 3.2E. I'm using Pentium 4 3.0E mah. I used 1.45Volts to overclock my 3.0E to 4GHz. I still remember that. Stable all the way for Orthos 24 Hours, 3Dmark01, 3Dmark03 However, do take note that at that time, i'm using ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe & ASUS P4P800-E-Deluxe which is the highest end motherboard for Intel Socket 478 processors. I love those boards. About the same la,just the multiplier is not the same. Between,you shouldn't sell off your mobo and proc last time.If not you are still able to contribute here with demo.
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sHawTY	Nov 16 2007, 11:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #63
Frequent Reporter All Stars 14,909 posts Joined: Jul 2005	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Nov 16 2007, 11:48 PM) About the same la,just the multiplier is not the same. Between,you shouldn't sell off your mobo and proc last time.If not you are still able to contribute here with demo. Don't blame me man, blame the Dark Side of Conroe.
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kabukiawie	Nov 16 2007, 11:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #64
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	guys, these guys are even more crazy. http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=327388 all with insane stuffs to play oc. @sang_karim the vdimm how?? rise a bit should be fine. i believe your ocz ram manage to stand at 2.85v easily.
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fylon	Nov 16 2007, 11:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #65
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Wah.. 20mins dint refresh.. Once refresh the post is flooded. @Sang Try loosen ur timing again. 2.5-3-3-7 might be too tight for ur ram to take it. Try make it as 3-3-3-8 and try again. It might havent crash the wall. Just ram timing might be the concern. Haha.. Dont need join 4G club, but join FSB250 above club. Loosen ur ram timing, pump vidimm to 2.75 and try again. Anyways sang, from ur screenie i notice that ur running some other program at background such like ur AVG and yahoo messenger. Try off all the program and run PI score again. I bet it will decrease the time. @Ray Yea.. Sang result wil be better then mine alot if he could reach 4G. As he will need FSB 260 above to get 4G i bet the result might will hit 32s for 1M pi score. @sHawTY Aloha boss! Haha.. Yea! I was using 3.2E to hit 4G.. So still not that good.. Maybe u can put ya hope on sang_karim, he was on the way to 4G.. Might be can break my record. Yea.. We only use P4P800SE to OC nia.. Ur using high end board to make that while we only use the normal board.. So sad i burnt my P4P800 Deluxe! This post has been edited by fylon: Nov 16 2007, 11:55 PM
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sang_karim	Nov 17 2007, 12:10 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #66
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	haha ... no 4Ghz for me ... here the situation : vcore = 1.5v vdimm = 2.75v vagp = 1.6v ram timing = 3-4-4-8 windows hang at FSB = 256MHz .. i geuss it's not the vdimm ... vcore almost max = 1.525V .... one conclusion, oredi hit the wall ...
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fylon	Nov 17 2007, 12:16 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #67
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Woh? I was now typing this reply with 4G and also use the same setting as urs! Was try to do some 3dmark benchmark later on. By then, had u try with vdimm 2.85v see can boot or not.. I just found that my proc need 1.5v vcore to stable in certain task such like file compressing.
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sang_karim	Nov 17 2007, 12:21 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #68
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 17 2007, 12:16 AM) Woh? I was now typing this reply with 4G and also use the same setting as urs! Was try to do some 3dmark benchmark later on. By then, had u try with vdimm 2.85v see can boot or not.. I just found that my proc need 1.5v vcore to stable in certain task such like file compressing. i don think it's about the ram ... 2.85V gonna void the ram warranty if sumthing bad happen .. so i wouldn't dare to risk that .. 1.5V need to stable ur proc .... u really need that high CFM fan la dude ...
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fylon	Nov 17 2007, 12:31 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #69
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Haha.. Yea! 1.5v needed to some do application. But just for testing purpose. I wont stick to 4G all the time as well. Normal usage, 3.6G is more the enough. By then, the ur game isnt finish yet.. Tried with 5:4 timing yet? Maybe 1:1 ratio will hang u at 255fsb but 5:4 might able to push ur proc higher without depend so much on the ram.
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sang_karim	Nov 17 2007, 12:38 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #70
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 17 2007, 12:31 AM) Haha.. Yea! 1.5v needed to some do application. But just for testing purpose. I wont stick to 4G all the time as well. Normal usage, 3.6G is more the enough. By then, the ur game isnt finish yet.. Tried with 5:4 timing yet? Maybe 1:1 ratio will hang u at 255fsb but 5:4 might able to push ur proc higher without depend so much on the ram. if using 5:4 divider of coz can reach 4GHz but not so syiok maa ....
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blonely	Nov 17 2007, 01:35 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #71
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	this thread really is flooding~~ 4 pages for 1 day. sang also hand itchy liao?
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overclockalbert	Nov 17 2007, 07:24 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #72
Regular Senior Member 1,058 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Penang , Malaysia	5:4 @ 275 @ 1.55v @ 2.8v @4400mHZ ( assume 3.0E) that would be a new score here. anyone wanna try?? 5:4 @ 250 @ 1.45V @ 2.75V @ 3500Mhz ( my 2.8E ) what i can do so far , so good
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herojack41	Nov 17 2007, 08:06 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #73
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 16 2007, 11:43 PM) Ala, tak adil, fylon uses Pentium 4 3.2E. I'm using Pentium 4 3.0E mah. I used 1.45Volts to overclock my 3.0E to 4GHz. I still remember that. Stable all the way for Orthos 24 Hours, 3Dmark01, 3Dmark03 However, do take note that at that time, i'm using ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe & ASUS P4P800-E-Deluxe which is the highest end motherboard for Intel Socket 478 processors. I love those boards. tea.....478 socket still ass kicking if going to OC a little bit,if OC higher almost like C2D
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TSraymond5105	Nov 17 2007, 08:28 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #74
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Wah so fast page 4 already,the spirit is burning hot now. I guess if each of us here change to dark side the thread also will be that hot to..Between albert,3.0E to 4400MHz is on air cooling or water cooling?
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kabukiawie	Nov 17 2007, 09:18 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #75
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@sang_karim i would like to see you get pass 4GHz with 5:4. like last time you tried 5:4 also quite impressive. i believe at 4.2 it will out perform your current speed. dont forget ca you run at very tight timing as the ram is not running at high speed. have you read through the link i post before?? they are using 5:4 to get 4.4GHz!! the superPI is 30s!!!! read this...post #78 http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=327388&page=3 This post has been edited by kabukiawie: Nov 17 2007, 09:25 AM
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fylon	Nov 17 2007, 09:30 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #76
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Haha... The 1st day of new thread had reached 4page. Spirit is burning high now. @Sang Yea.. If u wanna break 4Gh, maybe u can change ur ram ratio to slightly lower abit. As kabu say, when u change the ratio, the system wont be not so depend on the ram, thus u can tighten ur ram timing. Might can hit 32s for 1M PI eh! @Albert Is that ur result before? 4.4Gh on Prescott? @Kabu The 4.5Gh is kinda scary.. SL7E5 3.2E??? Thats my proc.. No wander can get high speed as long as got enough vcore.. Guess im owning a gem on hand! By then, their ambient temp kinda impressive. Maybe i think they did the OC on winter seasson. 30++'c...
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herojack41	Nov 17 2007, 09:49 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #77
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	@fylon can teach me how to OC ma??i gonna try OC abit about 2.8ghz>3.0ghz
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sang_karim	Nov 17 2007, 10:14 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #78
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	ok .. i'll gonna try with 5:4 divider .. not rite now coz downloading sumthing ... hehe .. maybe on sunday nite ...
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kevinwcw	Nov 17 2007, 11:00 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #79
Enthusiast Senior Member 943 posts Joined: Feb 2005 From: KL Sri Petaling	bro add one thing on my profile......tuniq tower120
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fylon	Nov 17 2007, 11:02 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #80
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@herojack41 Mobo, proc & ram details? I thought i had write a guide in V4 about how to OC? Im too lazy to write again. Got time view back the old thread. @Sang Yea.. I think if u run on 5:4 divider u maybe can hit high speed. I wanna try mine as well. Maybe 4.2Gh..
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TSraymond5105	Nov 17 2007, 12:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #81
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	fylon,you tried on 5:4 divider?Maybe can go 4.2GHz...The youe Super Pi will be 32s already. This post has been edited by raymond5105: Nov 17 2007, 12:48 PM
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blonely	Nov 17 2007, 01:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #82
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	Yaya~~ fylon....awaiting your 4.2Ghz..
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l3th9l	Nov 17 2007, 01:43 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #83
New Member Junior Member 19 posts Joined: Aug 2006	Hail 478 P4(s) & thier proud owner's as well. Long live socket 478s. My spec : P4(B) 2.4Ghz @ stock Northwood 533Mhz, 256Mb DDR266 Kingston x 2, MSI 865PE NEO 2, MSI 256MB FX5600. Thx TS for adding, cheers all 478 owners. Keep up da good works!
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TSraymond5105	Nov 17 2007, 02:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #84
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Another new member spotted.Welcome to the club.Anyway,going to join us on o/c ?
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fylon	Nov 17 2007, 02:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #85
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Ray Nop. Havent try with that ratio yet. By then, dont think can push any fruther by now. Due 4Gh has make me 55'c on full load. Thats abit risky! Wait i got a new fan then i will try it. @l3th9l Welcome bro.. Yup! All the owner for S478 are proud with their system. Dont worry!
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l3th9l	Nov 17 2007, 02:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #86
New Member Junior Member 19 posts Joined: Aug 2006	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Nov 17 2007, 02:08 PM) Another new member spotted.Welcome to the club.Anyway,going to join us on o/c ? o/c? Over Clocking? Very2 interested but my knowledge not dat deep, & i phobia a bit actually. (Burnt a processor b4 for stupid overclocking) Pls do guide me. QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 17 2007, 02:18 PM) @l3th9l Welcome bro.. Yup! All the owner for S478 are proud with their system. Dont worry! Wuddup, i'm proud like the other's as well. S478 rocks!!! Heh heh.
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overclockalbert	Nov 17 2007, 02:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #87
Regular Senior Member 1,058 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Penang , Malaysia	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 17 2007, 10:30 AM) Haha... The 1st day of new thread had reached 4page. Spirit is burning high now. @Sang Yea.. If u wanna break 4Gh, maybe u can change ur ram ratio to slightly lower abit. As kabu say, when u change the ratio, the system wont be not so depend on the ram, thus u can tighten ur ram timing. Might can hit 32s for 1M PI eh! @Albert Is that ur result before? 4.4Gh on Prescott? @Kabu The 4.5Gh is kinda scary.. SL7E5 3.2E??? Thats my proc.. No wander can get high speed as long as got enough vcore.. Guess im owning a gem on hand! By then, their ambient temp kinda impressive. Maybe i think they did the OC on winter seasson. 30++'c... @fylon, that 4400Mhz done by friend of mine. just for benching, with water cooled. that time using my IC7-Max3 couple with 3.0E HT, also disable PAT. vcore was set high 1.6V i think (not very remember already) and ram was one.....u using now, nice 275Mhz FSB @ 2.75V @3-4-4-8 active cooled. really impress that time. now i still using the Elpida chip and IC7 (non max 3 ) so 250Mhz was nice already. later i'll get PC4400 DDR1 1GB kit to try going over 270Mhz. wait for my good news ok. rgds, Albert This post has been edited by overclockalbert: Nov 17 2007, 02:36 PM
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blonely	Nov 17 2007, 03:07 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #88
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	yo guys...last post then bec hometown le...will less appear be here dy.. home jz dial up...hard to load page. see ya~
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kabukiawie	Nov 17 2007, 03:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #89
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@l3th9l welcome. now this thread got many active extreme overclockers. you can consult them. please take the screen shot on the cpuz on your cpu. you have the same cpu like mine last time. i manage to get it till 3.3GHz. i believe yours can easily get beyond 3GHz. @fylon maybe can try running at 5:4 with tighter timing, see how far it can go. if get beyond 4.2GHz with tight timing, i think can get superPI >32s.
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zeipher	Nov 17 2007, 03:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #90
Casual Junior Member 330 posts Joined: Dec 2006	hmm... after long time lurking around... decided to join da club also P4(B) 2.4GHz @ 2.7Ghz \| Asus P4P800S-X \| 1x Kingston DDR333 512MB 1x Apacer DDR333 512MB \| MSI GeForce4200 Ti Can't get anymore powa from my p4 anymore... maybe coz my akuComel too comel ady
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kabukiawie	Nov 17 2007, 04:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #91
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@zeipher can add more power in it la, bro. welcome to the club. many sifus are here ready to help. is your motherboard is 848P chipset. its the highest oc you can get is till 2.7GHz?? i think it can get more than that. share a bit your experience. hardly have 848 users here.
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fylon	Nov 17 2007, 05:47 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #92
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Albert Wah.. The speed is amazing. But anyways, water cooled. Thats scary! On air can hit 4.2Ghz @ 55'c is kinda high temp already. Wont wanna risk any further. But then, ur fren's proc really gem! By then.. The patriot can do 275mhz? With which devider it run at that speed? Make my heart itchy.. @zeipher Yo.. Getting more and more more S478 is joining! Not bad. Atleast can know that there were still alot of S478 user! Not bad.. By then, its glad that u can atleast squuze 300mhz out from stock.
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zeipher	Nov 17 2007, 09:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #93
Casual Junior Member 330 posts Joined: Dec 2006	yeap... my mobo's a 848P chipset. and highest oc shud be @3Ghz or so but cannot even survive prime test for 1hr and @2.8Ghz only can tahan bout 4-6hr prime test. But then, its all on default voltage setting if i do not remember wrongly. haha... sked ma... coz using akuComel psu ... buying that time still studying ma... on tight budget
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herojack41	Nov 17 2007, 09:57 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #94
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	finnaly i decided to OC 5%...lai some comment...cause i duno much about OC heres da screen shot
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fylon	Nov 17 2007, 10:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #95
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@zeipher Can hit 2.8Gh is not bad already. By then, i salute u.. Can do prime test for more then 3hrs. We are all seldom prime our system when oc. Just after OC, just some games to see whether it can be play or not. If can, consider the OC is success. Just dont have the time to let the system alone.. 2.8Gh and can prim 6hrs can consider the OC is success already. Ur proc is 2.4A? @herojack41 5% from stock? It should be ok.. All stock setting right?
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herojack41	Nov 17 2007, 10:03 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #96
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 17 2007, 10:02 PM) @zeipher Can hit 2.8Gh is not bad already. By then, i salute u.. Can do prime test for more then 3hrs. We are all seldom prime our system when oc. Just after OC, just some games to see whether it can be play or not. If can, consider the OC is success. Just dont have the time to let the system alone.. 2.8Gh and can prim 6hrs can consider the OC is success already. Ur proc is 2.4A? @herojack41 5% from stock? It should be ok.. All stock setting right? i let it auto OC....i choose 5% lor.... .now i only scare is not enough juice from my PSU only o. this show voltage things rite?? This post has been edited by herojack41: Nov 17 2007, 10:07 PM
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pengster	Nov 17 2007, 10:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #97
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(shinjite @ Nov 16 2007, 02:06 PM) Disbale it and try stability testing again QUOTE(edministrator @ Nov 16 2007, 02:24 PM) i disabled mine to reach a stable OC. so, u can try disable PAT to improve your stability/OC. hmm alright then.i'll try to disable it and see how it goes again at 2.7Ghz. thanks guys.
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fylon	Nov 17 2007, 10:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #98
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@pengster U on the PAT all the time during OC? That might cause u cannot go beyong 2.7G.. Out new member zeipher can hit 2.8G with his 2.4G.. I think urs also can do that. Off the PAT and try again. Might help. @herojack41 Get a good psu if u really wanna OC. No point to put ur part on risk while OC with cap palang psu. Ur 12v rail was below 12v, i assume ur using normal psu right? Change to a better one.
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herojack41	Nov 17 2007, 10:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #99
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	i was using a true power 380watt H E C psu o...
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fylon	Nov 17 2007, 10:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #100
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Confirm pure power? Usually a high performance PSU.. The current that it supply are always stable. As for my iGreen, my 12v was always remain at 12.22v, never go below that.
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herojack41	Nov 17 2007, 10:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #101
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	when i bought this power supply my technical said its true power supply. 1 more....my psu got two fan to cold down 1
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kabukiawie	Nov 17 2007, 11:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #102
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@herojack41 fylon is refering to your 12v rail. from your screenshot, it shows 11.80v. better get a higher watt true power psu like 450w. @pengster are your running at 1:1?? if running on 1:1, then your ram should be <200mhz. if you are running at 4:5 then your ram may not able to go higher. i assume that you are running 1:1 2700mhz should be 18*150mhz with ram at ddr300.
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fylon	Nov 17 2007, 11:03 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #103
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@herojack41 Fan not the main thing, as mine was using a 14cm blowing the component inside. But the current the psu supply is what u need to concern with. Agreed with Kabu's word. Better get a high watt type. Whats ur true power psu efficiency then? Btw, below 12v for ur 12v rail is kinda risky for OC.
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herojack41	Nov 17 2007, 11:05 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #104
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	paiseh.....if u guys din mention me about this voltage thingy i also duno......now drop till 11.76V de....
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kabukiawie	Nov 17 2007, 11:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #105
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@herojack41 mean your psu may supply not enough juice to your system. well, if you have friends that having better psu, just borrow to test on your rig, see the voltage stable or not before spend $$ in. i faced the same thing as well. i have no planning to change psu so i just end my oc.
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herojack41	Nov 17 2007, 11:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #106
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	just called my technical LOL he said....still can tahan o....cause this H E C brand PSU not chapalang...boleh tahan juga
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fylon	Nov 17 2007, 11:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #107
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@herojack41 Yup.. PSU cant supply stable current/voltage to ur system. Will the value of the 12v drop if u didnt oc it? Well.. Boleh than if u dont oc it. If u wanna tahan for atleast 3.2G oc with ur current proc, then ur advise to invest on a new psu. Ehehe.. Just tried 3.8G with C&C! The loading is damn fast man! This post has been edited by fylon: Nov 17 2007, 11:17 PM
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herojack41	Nov 17 2007, 11:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #108
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 17 2007, 11:16 PM) @herojack41 Yup.. PSU cant supply stable current/voltage to ur system. Will the value of the 12v drop if u didnt oc it? Ehehe.. Just tried 3.8G with C&C! The loading is damn fast man! i down clock liao,back to normal...still da same
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fylon	Nov 17 2007, 11:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #109
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Ic.. Then maybe is ur psu cant supply enough current to ur system. Advise, get a high efficiency psu.
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kabukiawie	Nov 17 2007, 11:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #110
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@herojack41 well, choice is in your hand. FYI, oc is pushing your system beyond what it suppose to do. so in order to play safe, better prepare your gear before proceed. i totally agreed with fylon. not to say your psu not good, what some in my mind is that your psu is out of juice when load. so it shows a bit low. i think you really need 450w+ to play safe. p.s. you must listen to fylon's advice. he is one of the best 478 ocer in LYN!! OT: fylon, i help you promo a bit...wahaha.......show them the light!! This post has been edited by kabukiawie: Nov 17 2007, 11:29 PM
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herojack41	Nov 17 2007, 11:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #111
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	tiada money...macam mana get high effiency PSU ler??
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kabukiawie	Nov 17 2007, 11:44 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #112
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	kumpul dulu...hehehe.... if mild oc it shouldnt be big problem, more then you will face instability problem and maybe it will kaboom your psu, mobo and cpu. fylon experience that before. pity him. but now he learn a great lesson and get all great gears. now, he is standing on the 4ghz wall watching us down here from the top.
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fylon	Nov 18 2007, 12:03 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #113
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	OI KABU! Dont highlight my name!! Haha.. Well well.. Im not the best anyways, there were still more extreme oc kaki out there in LYN. I just the little tiny sand! Yup.. Learn alot since i burnt my previous rigs. Bad memory in my life. By then.. No pain no gain! By then, im alone in my room with air con off, i could listen my 5 system fan sounds. Woah.. Damn noisy!! @herojack41 But anyways, its up 2 u then. Mild oc like kabu mentioned just now.. Ur psu should not have any problem. But dare not guarantee if u run for long term. This post has been edited by fylon: Nov 18 2007, 12:11 AM
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TSraymond5105	Nov 18 2007, 12:16 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #114
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(zeipher @ Nov 17 2007, 03:54 PM) hmm... after long time lurking around... decided to join da club also P4(B) 2.4GHz @ 2.7Ghz \| Asus P4P800S-X \| 1x Kingston DDR333 512MB 1x Apacer DDR333 512MB \| MSI GeForce4200 Ti Can't get anymore powa from my p4 anymore... maybe coz my akuComel too comel ady Hi your list was just added. Welcome to da old school club. QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 17 2007, 11:16 PM) @herojack41 Yup.. PSU cant supply stable current/voltage to ur system. Will the value of the 12v drop if u didnt oc it? Well.. Boleh than if u dont oc it. If u wanna tahan for atleast 3.2G oc with ur current proc, then ur advise to invest on a new psu. Ehehe.. Just tried 3.8G with C&C! The loading is damn fast man! 3.8GHz,i can imagine the power now.
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kabukiawie	Nov 18 2007, 12:20 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #115
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon wahaha...ter"click" the "B" when replying the message. wahahahahahahaha... me not extreme la. now i am good boy already, running all at stock. @raymond hows your gc hunting??
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fylon	Nov 18 2007, 12:21 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #116
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Lol.. Ray.. That time play C&C with 4G more syiok! But dont dare to stay too long with tat speed in gaming as my cooling was that good. Fast and furious! How was ur rigs? Still dont have time to try the PAT disable?
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TSraymond5105	Nov 18 2007, 12:27 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #117
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@kabu,my GC i think have to pause a while first.HEhe. @fylon,this morning i tried on PSB667 but PAT was still on. PSB533 pc wasn't unable to boot up.
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fylon	Nov 18 2007, 12:30 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #118
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Ray.. PC fair is around the corner la. Stand awhile and wait the fair come then go hunt. Ic.. PSB? Was the bios setting for ur mobo? 533 & 667? Is that something related to the ram timing? @Kabu.. PC fair comming dy. I will shown on the fair.. Got time come visit me.. I saw few lowyat forumer dy. Feel wanna meet some more fren. Maybe u and edmin..
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TSraymond5105	Nov 18 2007, 12:32 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #119
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon,ya PC fair is approaching.Hehe,you are going to visit the fair?PSB is something related to processor and PAT settings.Looks like i can't go higher already. Hitting the wall already for my Northwood.
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fylon	Nov 18 2007, 12:43 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #120
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Ray.. Yup! Is round at the corner. No.. Im not just going. But i will work there. My company will have few booth over there. I was incharge on one of the booth. So if kabu & edmin go there, probably they will saw me around. I wanna see the them since same place can meet them then very good already. Ic.. How to determine the PAT is disable with that function? Gosh.. Lucky i didnt get abit mobo, else will scratch head. I still prefer asus board.. Simply and durable!
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TSraymond5105	Nov 18 2007, 12:48 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #121
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon,actually i still prefer to run with PAT on 1:1 divier at the highest speed that the processor can.Hehe,but i know if PAT disable then can still go higher a bit.Asus mobo is also quite good in o/cing.You are quite lucky,can still meet up some members here.
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kabukiawie	Nov 18 2007, 01:06 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #122
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@raymond 1:1 still drawing most performance per MHz. but sometime the ram draw us back. so let the cpu run far ahead from ram and tighten the timing. aha...this is my cheap way of ocing. no extra ca$h for high performance ram. pc fair coming soon, grab a nice gc la. @fylon sure, i will go bio bio there this time. will invite Edmin come along. sometime i quite lazy with Kuching's PC Fair. 70% having the same stuffs, no new thing and onpar or even expensive the "offered" price compare to Lowyat price. if got any kantao thing dont forget inform 1st. haha..... i dont have anything want to buy this time. this year buy the LCD monitor pokai already. haiz...
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zeipher	Nov 18 2007, 01:27 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #123
Casual Junior Member 330 posts Joined: Dec 2006	@raymond old school p4... and still rocking hard hope the dark force don't pull me to the dark side yet @fylon lol i do my prime test when i'm out for lunch/dinner ma... come back then only see result But cannot reach my target to stable @3Ghz aih... 300MHz extra is better than none i guess btw, off topic jap... any nice agp gc to recommend? budget below rm250. else i stick back to my 4200ti
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kabukiawie	Nov 18 2007, 07:33 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #124
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	4200ti?? one of the legendary card last time before 9700pro coming out. >5 years card. at rm250, maybe you can find 7300GT. should be <rm200 i t think.
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edministrator	Nov 18 2007, 08:44 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #125
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	@ fylon, your company got display any canggih items? any cheap kangtao items? if yes, me & kabu might drop by and visit u~~~ as kabu said, we were quite bored and disappointed by every year's pc fair. This post has been edited by edministrator: Nov 18 2007, 08:48 AM
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fylon	Nov 18 2007, 08:57 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #126
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Kabu & Edmin Haha.. I not sure what the company will shown up. But mostly will be dark side item. X38 mobo perhaps and some 8 series card. The HD2900XT has been put on display tiga bulan still no ppl wanna buy. @zeipher RM250 budget? Perhaps u can try hunt for 7300GT.. 2nd hand type maybe. As u should know that AGP is kinda expensive.
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kabukiawie	Nov 18 2007, 09:15 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #127
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	hahaha....Ed, so early wake up liao?? today is SUNDAY~~~ sometime it really sienz go for pc fair, go there sauna nothing to see. really envy west malaysians, can get all stuffs at cheaper price + wide varieties of choice. hmm.......
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fylon	Nov 18 2007, 09:21 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #128
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Yea. I din got kuching pc fair for quite sometime already! Everytime go there got nothing else to. But this time different due gotta work for company over there. I was in-charge for HP printer. By then, guys.. Anyone wanna change GC here? I spotted 6600GT for RM200 nego! http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/555842
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kabukiawie	Nov 18 2007, 09:38 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #129
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	you have the same feeling as well?? hahahaha......
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TSraymond5105	Nov 18 2007, 10:11 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #130
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@zeipher ,i hope you can enjoy the thread here.Most of us here are having high spirit in o/cing. @kabu,me too don't have $ to get the high performance RAM.Meanwhile,i'm using loose timing in my KVR.
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herojack41	Nov 18 2007, 10:51 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #131
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	@fylon btw....if u set standard OC=no rite???all my voltage are set to auto....is this normal?? really paiseh....after down clock....bot up really slow 20%
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zeipher	Nov 18 2007, 12:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #132
Casual Junior Member 330 posts Joined: Dec 2006	@kabukiawie my 4200ti serve me well for 5years ady... but the cooler changed coz fan rosak and warranty expired one question. is the 4200ti enough to power up a 22 incher widescreen ? coz planning to upgrade my old kaputed 17" crt to a 22" ws. @raymond yeap... enjoyed it very much but been lurking around more than posting last time pc fair @kl... more like human sardine can the crowd sometimes really make you to be not in the mood to go on looking for good bargain stuffs.
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herojack41	Nov 18 2007, 01:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #133
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(zeipher @ Nov 18 2007, 12:33 PM) @kabukiawie my 4200ti serve me well for 5years ady... but the cooler changed coz fan rosak and warranty expired one question. is the 4200ti enough to power up a 22 incher widescreen ? coz planning to upgrade my old kaputed 17" crt to a 22" ws. @raymond yeap... enjoyed it very much but been lurking around more than posting last time pc fair @kl... more like human sardine can the crowd sometimes really make you to be not in the mood to go on looking for good bargain stuffs. yes....now kl de pc fair is at KL Convention centre....go there really jadi sardine fish....din go there already...since there are toooo many people...wanna looks stuff also hard,unless u pass da first hall maybe u could see some other ting
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TSraymond5105	Nov 18 2007, 01:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #134
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@zeipher , the PC fair in KL and Penang also like sardin.Too crowded already. I prefer to buy my items in LYP or other shops.The crowd really affecting your buying mood.
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pengster	Nov 18 2007, 02:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #135
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 17 2007, 10:42 PM) @pengster U on the PAT all the time during OC? That might cause u cannot go beyong 2.7G.. Out new member zeipher can hit 2.8G with his 2.4G.. I think urs also can do that. Off the PAT and try again. Might help. @herojack41 Get a good psu if u really wanna OC. No point to put ur part on risk while OC with cap palang psu. Ur 12v rail was below 12v, i assume ur using normal psu right? Change to a better one. yeah i was oc-ing all the way with PAT fully enabled since my FSB is below 200mhz.yeah that might have caused my problem too. anyway,totally off topic buy hey,my dad gave me permission to upgrade my PC already but 1 question for you guys.grab the 8800GT or wait for the new G92 8800GTS or the HD3870?
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fylon	Nov 18 2007, 03:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #136
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Woah.. Pengster! Finally wanna turn to dark size? Penryn? Hehe.. Hm.. Wait for the latest G92 will be much more better. Or perhaps HD 3 series. That 1 can do quad cross fire.. Eh.. Letting go ur item? I bet ray will get interested with ur 68GS..
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kabukiawie	Nov 18 2007, 05:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #137
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@zeipher i am not sure that it can support, but mostly can la as the driver always up to date. but running games at high resolution is a nono. Edmin owned a 4200TI before. now sold to 1 of my friend. still going strong even >5year old card. @raymond at least you have D43 which can run 1:1 at high speed with loose timing. mine running at 5:4 also hard to get high.
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kingmax	Nov 18 2007, 06:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #138
Enthusiast Senior Member 751 posts Joined: Oct 2006	Does these 2 motherboard support p4 precott 3.0 GHz ? ASROCK P4i65G and MSI MS7104 ? both are 478
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mgxbox	Nov 18 2007, 06:27 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #139
Regular Banned 1,112 posts Joined: Oct 2007	QUOTE(kingmax @ Nov 18 2007, 06:06 PM) Does these 2 motherboard support p4 precott 3.0 GHz ? ASROCK P4i65G and MSI MS7104 ? both are 478 Depend on bios, check on those motherboard official website and look for the model there for more details.
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fylon	Nov 18 2007, 06:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #140
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@kingmax Two of the board, i can confirmed that the AsRock board can support 3.0E and its HT ready. Guys.. Just get my hand the full version of ProStreet.. Going to try it later on.. Was installing now!
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kabukiawie	Nov 18 2007, 06:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #141
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@kingmax please type the motherboard model in the search textbox at http://www.google.com, then gently press the search button. from what i know, the asrock mobo support prescott. not sure about the msi.
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mgxbox	Nov 18 2007, 06:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #142
Regular Banned 1,112 posts Joined: Oct 2007	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 18 2007, 06:42 PM) @kingmax please type the motherboard model in the search textbox at http://www.google.com, then gently press the search button. from what i know, the asrock mobo support prescott. not sure about the msi. lol... why have to gently press? if hard press google server will go down kah? Added on November 18, 2007, 6:49 pm QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 18 2007, 06:30 PM) @kingmax Two of the board, i can confirmed that the AsRock board can support 3.0E and its HT ready. Guys.. Just get my hand the full version of ProStreet.. Going to try it later on.. Was installing now! I got it few days back, but NFS ProStreet is nothing like NFS Underground, Most Wanted or Carbon. NFS ProStreet is all about Professional Driving similar to Gran Turismo. I regret buying it, boo... NFS ProStreet gameplay suck only graphics nice. This post has been edited by mgxbox: Nov 18 2007, 06:56 PM
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kabukiawie	Nov 18 2007, 06:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #143
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	not good to be rude ma...LOL....mouse left button is use to play game.wahaha i think better googled for the information 1st as his question can easily answered on the manufacturer webside.
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mgxbox	Nov 18 2007, 06:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #144
Regular Banned 1,112 posts Joined: Oct 2007	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 18 2007, 06:52 PM) not good to be rude ma...LOL....mouse left button is use to play game.wahaha i think better googled for the information 1st as his question can easily answered on the manufacturer webside. Since when after playing games the left mouse button became rude? lol...
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fylon	Nov 18 2007, 07:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #145
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Anyways, is good to learn the habit of googling. Actually that whats searching engine were made for. By then, just tried 20mins ProStreet. Seems not bad.. I like the new game play style. Thats wad skill called.
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pengster	Nov 18 2007, 07:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #146
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 18 2007, 03:21 PM) Woah.. Pengster! Finally wanna turn to dark size? Penryn? Hehe.. Hm.. Wait for the latest G92 will be much more better. Or perhaps HD 3 series. That 1 can do quad cross fire.. Eh.. Letting go ur item? I bet ray will get interested with ur 68GS.. Soon.slowly buying each part one by one. prolly getting the proc and graphic card only next year so by then hopefully i can get the Penryn and G92 8800GTS or smth.haha so,this is first item. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
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overclockalbert	Nov 18 2007, 07:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #147
Regular Senior Member 1,058 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Penang , Malaysia	@pengster, nice PSU there. planning for 8800GTS? 650W was over kill imo, if not consider kaw-kaw OC with Penryn.
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pengster	Nov 18 2007, 08:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #148
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	Thanks. yeah 8 series and maybe quad Penryn when it reaches here next year.or just dual if no budget. and yeah,i plan to oc all the way.lol
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kingmax	Nov 18 2007, 08:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #149
Enthusiast Senior Member 751 posts Joined: Oct 2006	QUOTE(mgxbox @ Nov 18 2007, 06:27 PM) Depend on bios, check on those motherboard official website and look for the model there for more details. QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 18 2007, 06:30 PM) @kingmax Two of the board, i can confirmed that the AsRock board can support 3.0E and its HT ready. Guys.. Just get my hand the full version of ProStreet.. Going to try it later on.. Was installing now! QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 18 2007, 06:42 PM) @kingmax please type the motherboard model in the search textbox at http://www.google.com, then gently press the search button. from what i know, the asrock mobo support prescott. not sure about the msi. Thank you for the reply.I did search for those motherboard but I am not very sure until someone reply that had tested and running those motherboard. I would like to ask ,between both AS rock and MSI brand , which one is long lasting ? somehow Asrock only provide 1 year warranty while MSI 3 years.I am not sure which one I should get regarding with both build quality .
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fylon	Nov 18 2007, 08:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #150
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Its depend on ur choice. I had used the AsRock board before. Well.. Not bad. Kinda stable. Provided that ur not into overclocking. Overall the board is doing quite well. Just the draw back for AsRock board is it only comes with 2 ram dimm. Max ram only can support to 2GB. Other then that, all is good. I give 8.5/10 for this board. As for MSI, i not really sure about that. Never use it before.. But is a branded board. I believe it should have its own standard. If ur considering warranty wise, then u may get this mobo.
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TSraymond5105	Nov 18 2007, 09:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #151
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 18 2007, 03:21 PM) Woah.. Pengster! Finally wanna turn to dark size? Penryn? Hehe.. Hm.. Wait for the latest G92 will be much more better. Or perhaps HD 3 series. That 1 can do quad cross fire.. Eh.. Letting go ur item? I bet ray will get interested with ur 68GS.. Haha.he's goign to change next year.We will see next year whether he let go his 6800GS or not. QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 18 2007, 05:19 PM) @zeipher i am not sure that it can support, but mostly can la as the driver always up to date. but running games at high resolution is a nono. Edmin owned a 4200TI before. now sold to 1 of my friend. still going strong even >5year old card. @raymond at least you have D43 which can run 1:1 at high speed with loose timing. mine running at 5:4 also hard to get high. Mine tighest can run on 2.5-3-3-5 with current 229FSB .But seems like my RAM doesn't care about this 2.5-3-3-5 and 3-4-4-8. 2fylon,Asrock is the subsidary company from Asus.tha't why their mobo are stable.
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herojack41	Nov 18 2007, 09:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #152
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	long live asus
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zeipher	Nov 18 2007, 09:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #153
Casual Junior Member 330 posts Joined: Dec 2006	@pengster nice psu you got there... going for sli setup ? nfs:prostreet... hope the ps2 version will be as good as the pc version as my comp cannot even run nfs:carbon at medium settings also Penryn quad will cost a bomb and Penryn dual going to cost a dynamite must... must... must... resist the dark force
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pengster	Nov 18 2007, 09:29 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #154
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(kingmax @ Nov 18 2007, 08:30 PM) Thank you for the reply.I did search for those motherboard but I am not very sure until someone reply that had tested and running those motherboard. I would like to ask ,between both AS rock and MSI brand , which one is long lasting ? somehow Asrock only provide 1 year warranty while MSI 3 years.I am not sure which one I should get regarding with both build quality . im currently on a MSI board and i prefer that than an Asrock mobo cause im into overclocking.was able to push my 2.4 till 2.88 Ghz last time on stock everything last time. (that time dont dare to play with the volts yet ><) QUOTE(zeipher @ Nov 18 2007, 09:20 PM) @pengster nice psu you got there... going for sli setup ? nfs:prostreet... hope the ps2 version will be as good as the pc version as my comp cannot even run nfs:carbon at medium settings also Penryn quad will cost a bomb and Penryn dual going to cost a dynamite must... must... must... resist the dark force nah no money to go for SLi.maybe just a 8800GT/GTS G92. slowly slowly getting part by part.by the time i finish building my new rig it'll be next year already @raymond5105 yeah im gonna sell of my s478 rig once i complete my new rig.but i think im gonna do COD only as im afraid of postage and all the hassle. haha
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fylon	Nov 18 2007, 09:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #155
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Ray Yea.. Used AsRock before. Not bad, kinda solid for the performance. Recommended for normal usage. I used to keep 1 as my backup board actualy. By then, i tried the ProStreet dy, atleast with my 68GT i can have mid high setting. But the game is damn hard to play. Skilled driver needed. Overall.. I like it!
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TSraymond5105	Nov 18 2007, 10:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #156
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon,solute you your 6800GT can play at medium settings.what resolution are you using now?
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fylon	Nov 18 2007, 10:29 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #157
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	1024*768 with mid high setting. Still able to run at 4x AA. Just will having some lagging if got few cars cornering together. Other then that.. Its smooth!
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sang_karim	Nov 18 2007, 10:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #158
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	Guys ... try to reach 4GHz with 5:4 divider isn't as easy as i thought .. try with this setting : Vcore : 1.5V Vdimm : 2.75V Vagp : 1.6V Ram timing : 3-4-4-8 Results with 5:4 divider - Windows restart Result with 1:1 divider - Windows can start normally I'm wondering why that 5:4 divider can't boot normally .... @fylon have u ever try 4:5 divider ? coz ur ram have plenty room to oc, i think u should give a try ... if ur's set to FSB = 250MHz ... ur proc gonna run at 4GHz and ram at 312MHz ... This post has been edited by sang_karim: Nov 18 2007, 10:40 PM
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TSraymond5105	Nov 18 2007, 10:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #159
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	THis is strange,i think maybe your RAM doesn't like loose timing at low frequency.
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sang_karim	Nov 18 2007, 10:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #160
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Nov 18 2007, 10:40 PM) THis is strange,i think maybe your RAM doesn't like loose timing at low frequency. or maybe i should tighten the timing or leave it to default setting ? This post has been edited by sang_karim: Nov 18 2007, 10:43 PM
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TSraymond5105	Nov 18 2007, 10:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #161
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Maybe your try on default timing first.I tried my KVR before running on 5:4 also can't boot up.I also can't understand why.
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kabukiawie	Nov 18 2007, 10:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #162
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@raymond 229mhz 1:1 is quite hard for me to reach there. mine only get till 225, not prime stable somemore. at 5:4 not reach 248 stable. haiz....really have no luck in ocing. maybe next rig in the future la(3 years later? ). hahaha... @pengster OMG!!!! i LOVE the psu. looks damn sweet! how much?? but if you get the parts slowly, then when your whole system completed, many some parts already half warrenty gone. as for me, i will plan a list for the rig i want and keep an eye on the price and technology change. at the same time collect $. only budget available, update the required list then 1 go hamtam. just my 2 cents @fylon hoho....now you are buzy gaming la? hahahaha....
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sang_karim	Nov 18 2007, 10:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #163
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	ok .. set the ram timing to auto and now can boot normally ... ..gonna try push more ..
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kabukiawie	Nov 18 2007, 10:57 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #164
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	wahaha...as expected, your ocz ram dont want to run too loose at low speed!!! wahaha...At 212mhz, it can tun at 2-2-2-6 la. just set to SPD for ram 1st and vcore to 1.5v. then start push it slowly till it hit the wall. now your ram shouldnt be big problem.
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TSraymond5105	Nov 18 2007, 11:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #165
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(sang_karim @ Nov 18 2007, 10:52 PM) ok .. set the ram timing to auto and now can boot normally ... ..gonna try push more .. QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 18 2007, 10:57 PM) wahaha...as expected, your ocz ram dont want to run too loose at low speed!!! wahaha...At 212mhz, it can tun at 2-2-2-6 la. just set to SPD for ram 1st and vcore to 1.5v. then start push it slowly till it hit the wall. now your ram shouldnt be big problem. Like that i bet my RAM is also behaving like the OCZ RAM?Loose timing won't boot at 5:4 divider?
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sang_karim	Nov 18 2007, 11:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #166
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	i'm done ... i think my proc hit the wall oredi .. can boot normally at FSB = 255MHz (3.84GHz) .. beyond that will hang after loading windows Vcore : 1.5V Vdimm : 2.65V Vagp : 1.6V Ram timing = Auto Now running dailly with 3.6Ghz with 2.5-3-3-5 timing .... fylon, u r the man rite now ....
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kabukiawie	Nov 18 2007, 11:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #167
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	maybe thats true. raymond, your ram just pass a message to me. "DONT UNDERESTIMATE ME!!! I CAN RUN AT TIGHT TIMING~~~" jk jk wahahahaha.....mine last time have face this problem, running at cas3 dont boot at all, at least must run at cas2.5 or cas2. that time was running at speed below stock speed. once get over 200mhz, then running at cas3 no problem. but also quite useless, cant even get pass trought 230mhz. @sang_karim you try run it at 5:4, i think you should get higher. since you can get near to 3.8GHz 1:1, i believe get pass 4GHz with 5:4 is not a hard work. at 4ghz you can run at 2-x-x-x timing. i htnk the performance will be better than your current 3.6GHz This post has been edited by kabukiawie: Nov 18 2007, 11:27 PM
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sang_karim	Nov 18 2007, 11:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #168
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 18 2007, 11:18 PM) maybe thats true. raymond, your ram just pass a message to me. "DONT UNDERESTIMATE ME!!! I CAN RUN AT TIGHT TIMING~~~" jk jk wahahahaha.....mine last time have face this problem, running at cas3 dont boot at all, at least must run at cas2.5 or cas2. that time was running at speed below stock speed. once get over 200mhz, then running at cas3 no problem. but also quite useless, cant even get pass trought 230mhz. @sang_karim you try run it at 5:4, i think you should get higher. since you can get near to 3.8GHz 1:1, i believe get pass 4GHz with 5:4 is not a hard work. at 4ghz you can run at 2-x-x-x timing. i htnk the performance will be better than your current 3.6GHz oredi tried with 5:4 divider .. that was the result i got ... i thought i can easily reach 4Ghz with 5:4 but i'm wrong .... set vcore, vdimm , ram timing at auto and vagp at 1.6V incase needed for stability but only manage to boot windows normally at FSB = 255Mhz (3.84Ghz) only ... almost the same with 1:1 divider which can boot at FSB = 254Mhz only ... so my conclusion is the proc hit the wall oredi ....
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fylon	Nov 18 2007, 11:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #169
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Wah... 1 hrs dint refresh thread is flooded. @sang_karim Haha.. I never tried with 5:4 before as i can hit 4G with 1:1 ratio i think it should be enough for me. As for the timing 2.5-3-3-6 @ 4G i gain around 7k bandwidth for my system. Most of it, as Ray & kabu has says, ur ram need to be tighten up during high speed. Btw.. Ur proc hit the wall already wth 255mhz @ 1:1 ratio? Not done yet.. Maybe vAGP not enough for high speed. Since u had pump more then 250mhz.. vAGP might be one of the concern which limiting u get beyond ur current speed. @Ray & Kabu Yup.. Busing gaming now. Hand itchy now.. Game more important than OC now. Spend 3hrs on ProStreet but only mange to dominate 2 race day! OMG! The game is kinda long! I only finish 3%.... P/s: ProStreet full version takes me 7GB of space to install. This post has been edited by fylon: Nov 18 2007, 11:47 PM
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sang_karim	Nov 18 2007, 11:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #170
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 18 2007, 11:45 PM) Wah... 1 hrs dint refresh thread is flooded. @sang_karim Haha.. I never tried with 5:4 before as i can hit 4G with 1:1 ratio i think it should be enough for me. As for the timing 2.5-3-3-6 @ 4G i gain around 7k bandwidth for my system. Most of it, as Ray & kabu has says, ur ram need to be tighten up during high speed. Btw.. Ur proc hit the wall already wth 255mhz @ 1:1 ratio? Not done yet.. Maybe vAGP not enough for high speed. Since u had pump more then 250mhz.. vAGP might be one of the concern which limiting u get beyond ur current speed. dude .. not 5:4 la .. 4:5 one ... .. it will show 500MHz at DRAM Frequency in bios ... if i set the FSB 200Mhz at bios with 4:5 divider .. i'm gonna get proc run at stock (3Ghz) while ram at 250MHz ... i'm wonder how it's gonna be if u apply it ... ur stock ram is 250Mhz rite? which means it's still got plenty of room for ocing ... if u set the FSB = 225Mhz .. ur proc gonna run at 3.6Ghz and ram at 281Mhz ... is it wonderfull if u can run at that speed ... ... please correct me if my calculation is wrong ...
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blonely	Nov 18 2007, 11:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #171
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	hihi all want to ask about the proc northwood p4 3.0ghz, stepping 9,revision D1 wat the meaning of the stepping and the revision? is it good?
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fylon	Nov 18 2007, 11:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #172
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Haha.. Sorry! Got flooded with game on mind. Owh yup. Tried that before actually, due my ram was PC4200 = 500mhz but unfortunately i cannot boot my system what that setting. Thats why i stick to 400mhz. This post has been edited by fylon: Nov 19 2007, 12:17 AM
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sang_karim	Nov 19 2007, 12:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #173
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 18 2007, 11:58 PM) Haha.. Sorry! Got flooded with game on mind. Owh yup. Tried that before actually, due my ram was PC4200 = 533mhz but unfortunately i cannot boot my system what that setting. Thats why i stick to 400mhz. dude .. ur stock ram speed is 266Mhz aa?
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fylon	Nov 19 2007, 12:18 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #174
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Stock is 250mhz, with PC4200 = 500mhz. But anyways, some surprise here. I could boot my system with 4:5 ratio now.. By then, no matter how i disable the PAT, when i running at stock speed, it sure fully enable! Addon: Correct some mistake! PC4200 = 500mhz! Not 533! Screenie: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by fylon: Nov 19 2007, 12:20 AM
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pengster	Nov 19 2007, 12:22 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #175
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 18 2007, 10:50 PM) @raymond 229mhz 1:1 is quite hard for me to reach there. mine only get till 225, not prime stable somemore. at 5:4 not reach 248 stable. haiz....really have no luck in ocing. maybe next rig in the future la(3 years later? ). hahaha... @pengster OMG!!!! i LOVE the psu. looks damn sweet! how much?? but if you get the parts slowly, then when your whole system completed, many some parts already half warrenty gone. as for me, i will plan a list for the rig i want and keep an eye on the price and technology change. at the same time collect $. only budget available, update the required list then 1 go hamtam. just my 2 cents @fylon hoho....now you are buzy gaming la? hahahaha.... ahha thanks i bought it at LYP today.600+.will set it up tomorrow. no cash to buy everything 1 shot mar.so slowly buy lor.better anyway,i can wait for the G92 8800GTS and Penryn that way.haha oh yeah,disabling PAT makes my system stable @ 2700Mhz.no crashes whatsoever after 3 hours of gaming silly that i forgot all about PAT.thanks guys!
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blonely	Nov 19 2007, 12:30 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #176
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	no bodies free to answer my question jk jk
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sang_karim	Nov 19 2007, 12:31 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #177
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 19 2007, 12:18 AM) Stock is 250mhz, with PC4200 = 500mhz. But anyways, some surprise here. I could boot my system with 4:5 ratio now.. By then, no matter how i disable the PAT, when i running at stock speed, it sure fully enable! Addon: Correct some mistake! PC4200 = 500mhz! Not 533! Screenie: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « why don u try running at 4:5 divider ... high speed proc and high bandwith ram ... ..see how much u can do with 4:5 ...
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fylon	Nov 19 2007, 12:38 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #178
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@sang Ok.. Here is ur request sang. Just play around with it. And i found the max spot for my ram. 273mhz with 3-4-4-8 @ 2.75v vdimm. As my cpu were clock to 218fsb. Anything more then will make me stuck at POST. Meaning i was running at 3.48Ghz with my ram at 273mhz. Gain around 6.2k bandwidth. Not bad.. P/s: One thing i found that, by using 4:5 ratio, even i go beyond 200fsb my PAT were still on. I set it to auto and it always fully enable shown in CTIAW. Screenie: @blonely Actually u can search on the net to find about the stepping and revision thing. This post has been edited by fylon: Nov 19 2007, 12:40 AM
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blonely	Nov 19 2007, 12:42 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #179
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	@fylon already do so but still dun understand. as in wikipedia cant found.
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fylon	Nov 19 2007, 12:45 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #180
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@blonely U sure cant find in wiki? http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:C0ryS...clnk&cd=4&gl=us Wanna know more about P4? Read this article. http://www.hardcoreware.net/reviews/review-195-1.htm This post has been edited by fylon: Nov 19 2007, 12:47 AM
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overclockalbert	Nov 19 2007, 01:25 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #181
Regular Senior Member 1,058 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Penang , Malaysia	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 19 2007, 12:58 AM) Haha.. Sorry! Got flooded with game on mind. Owh yup. Tried that before actually, due my ram was PC4200 = 500mhz but unfortunately i cannot boot my system what that setting. Thats why i stick to 400mhz. @fylon, bro, it's 533Mhz rather then 500Mhz. the ram was tested to run over 24hours of memtest with that timing and speed without fail. it should not be the ram's problem.
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blonely	Nov 19 2007, 01:27 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #182
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	@fylon thanks jz now i key in stepping 9 and revision D1 in there to search,it show me nth then tried northwood p4 3.0 ghz as well.. and search the whole words...also not related... guess my searching skill is damn poor..
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overclockalbert	Nov 19 2007, 01:30 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #183
Regular Senior Member 1,058 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Penang , Malaysia	QUOTE(blonely @ Nov 19 2007, 02:27 AM) @fylon thanks jz now i key in stepping 9 and revision D1 in there to search,it show me nth then tried northwood p4 3.0 ghz as well.. and search the whole words...also not related... guess my searching skill is damn poor.. bro, what u need to know? Added on November 19, 2007, 1:32 amstepping stuff u can google in P4 stepping , the best stepping would be MO stepping, which usually goes to EE edition of P4. Added on November 19, 2007, 1:40 am QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 19 2007, 01:38 AM) @sang Ok.. Here is ur request sang. Just play around with it. And i found the max spot for my ram. 273mhz with 3-4-4-8 @ 2.75v vdimm. As my cpu were clock to 218fsb. Anything more then will make me stuck at POST. Meaning i was running at 3.48Ghz with my ram at 273mhz. Gain around 6.2k bandwidth. Not bad.. P/s: One thing i found that, by using 4:5 ratio, even i go beyond 200fsb my PAT were still on. I set it to auto and it always fully enable shown in CTIAW. Screenie: @blonely Actually u can search on the net to find about the stepping and revision thing. @fylon, the PDP can run stable, with active cooling @2.8V/loose timing , way up to PC4400 (275Mhz ) without fail. but i don't see any benefit for u to run 4:5 in stead of 5:4 option 1 FSB : Dram 4 : 5 200 : 250 option 2 FSB : Dram 5 : 4 250 : 200 Do u have any significant improve of dram bandwidth over enabling PAT????? very interesting. mind to share more? rgds, Albert This post has been edited by overclockalbert: Nov 19 2007, 01:40 AM
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blonely	Nov 19 2007, 02:11 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #184
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	jz want to know about the stepping and the revision.. wat is this specs indicate...
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mgxbox	Nov 19 2007, 02:51 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #185
Regular Banned 1,112 posts Joined: Oct 2007	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 18 2007, 07:22 PM) Anyways, is good to learn the habit of googling. Actually that whats searching engine were made for. By then, just tried 20mins ProStreet. Seems not bad.. I like the new game play style. Thats wad skill called. NFS series should be arcade racing. EA really fail on this NFS ProStreet if I wish to play skill, I prefer Gran Turismo more realistic. Do not reply this post, out of topic.
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herojack41	Nov 19 2007, 07:32 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #186
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	@fylon fylon...izzit my ram clock slow???
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sang_karim	Nov 19 2007, 08:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #187
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(herojack41 @ Nov 19 2007, 07:32 AM) @fylon fylon...izzit my ram clock slow??? u ram run at stock speed which is 200Mhz for 1:1 divider . This post has been edited by sang_karim: Nov 19 2007, 08:09 AM
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fylon	Nov 19 2007, 08:27 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #188
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@albert Lol.. Sorry sorry! Play too much game until forgot everything. Yeap.. Just play around with 4:5 ratio just too see what is happening. By then, i only set the vdimm to 2.75v maybe thats the reason hold me at 273mhz. I dont have active cooling for the thus dun dare to up the vidimm to high. I think it my mobo CMOS battery problem, as before i changed the batt, most of the setting in the bios such like set the performance mode to turbo will crash the system. And set the ram speed to 500mhz will make me unable to get trough POST. But i didnt give a try after i change the until last night. Now everything is fine. Can use all the bios setting. Just pairing the PDP with this P4P800SE was a great pair. As last night, my P4P800 Dlx dont have 500mhz & 533 ram ratio in bios. Running at 4:5 ratio? With clock my pc to 3.48GHz i can gain around 6.2k bandwidth. Normally at 1:1 with 3.6Gh speed, i only have around 6-6.1k bandwidth, PAT disable due the fsb goes beyond 200mhz. But with 4:5 i gain around 100 mega byte extra bandwidth. Ofcause with this ratio the PAT is enable Seems like by enabling PAT makes another 100MB bandwidth for me. Screenie: 1. 1:1 ratio with PAT disable. 2. 4:5 ratio with PAT enable. @herojack41 Ur case is normal. Nothing go wrong. Edit: Typo This post has been edited by fylon: Nov 19 2007, 08:31 AM
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sang_karim	Nov 19 2007, 08:40 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #189
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	@fylon dude ... have u try to compare super pi score between those setting?
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TSraymond5105	Nov 19 2007, 08:46 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #190
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@blonely ,the stepping and patching of a processor is indicating the time when processor was made. GO stepping is a core from Gallatin but with L3 disable. @kabu,i don't under estimate your RAM. Just that i'm suprising why the RAM won't boot at loose timing when using 5:4 only. @fylon,you were busy to play ProStreet.Hehe,i think here only you can enjoy the game.Other members GC not so powerful.
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fylon	Nov 19 2007, 09:04 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #191
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@sang_karim Nop for 3.48Gh with 4:5 ratio, meaning 218fsb:273mhz .. I dint. But tried in stock speed. Gain around 42s.. As i know, super PI were more depend on cpu rather then ram. Correct me if im wrong. But memory bandwidth is slightly increase at 4:5 ratio due of PAT enable. @Ray Haha.. Nah! Pensgter GC also enough juice for this card. Come come.. Invest new GC! I saw alot of nice game around now. Cant wait to dominated all the ProStreet now! Next game might be Gears of Wars..
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kabukiawie	Nov 19 2007, 09:08 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #192
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@raymond not underestimate ram la, normal ram is like that. even some value ram with D43 can easily score better than mine. Envy a bit lo. i know my mobo and ram has limits the oc performance. i just accept the fact. you also know la, at vdimm 2.68v( typo:not 1.68v ) how far can the ram go?? no hurting. as now i am running all at stock, even with BH5 also no feeling. wahahaha..... XD This post has been edited by kabukiawie: Nov 19 2007, 10:08 AM
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fylon	Nov 19 2007, 09:14 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #193
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Kabu.. Typo!! 1.68v? DDR3 ar?
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TSraymond5105	Nov 19 2007, 09:31 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #194
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon,ya going to invest for new GC sometime later.Hehe,see year end bonus can fit me for a new GC or not.Pengster seems like now busy for his SPM exam.Now he can't play ProStreet. @kabu,BH5 you will have some feel.You will see the bandwidth is much more better than normal RAM.
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sang_karim	Nov 19 2007, 09:39 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #195
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	@fylon almost end of year dude .. how's ur casing hunting?
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kabukiawie	Nov 19 2007, 10:11 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #196
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	he diam diam ubi type, wait and see how he surprice us later. wahaha...coz the coming pcfair he sure eyeing for that. then his black pearl will shine in new case. huhu.....
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skzisghost	Nov 19 2007, 10:39 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #197
Getting Started Junior Member 267 posts Joined: Dec 2006	hey guys any socket478 mobo with ddr2 and pci-e ready ?
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fylon	Nov 19 2007, 10:56 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #198
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@kabu & Sang Haha.. No no.. Wrong! Im going for further study soon la. No point to get new case while i cannot bring it over. Probably will buy it at LYN next year. More choice ma.. @skzisghost Answer is no for DDR2 S478 mobo. And yes for S478 mobo with PCIE slot. But then, rarest of the rare.
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sang_karim	Nov 19 2007, 11:00 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #199
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 19 2007, 10:56 AM) @skzisghost Answer is no for DDR2 S478 mobo. And yes for S478 mobo with PCIE slot. But then, rarest of the rare. actually there is .. but of coz la very2 rare item to get it here ... CLICK ME ...
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fylon	Nov 19 2007, 11:03 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #200
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Sang.. Via chipset cannot OC high. Even can, not much performance can be gained as well. BioStar mobo... Latest mobo still quite good. But old generation.. Not a good choice.
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sang_karim	Nov 19 2007, 11:05 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #201
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 19 2007, 11:03 AM) Sang.. Via chipset cannot OC high. Even can, not much performance can be gained as well. BioStar mobo... Latest mobo still quite good. But old generation.. Not a good choice. maybe skzisghost don want to oc .. but i doubt he can get those board here ...
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kabukiawie	Nov 19 2007, 11:06 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #202
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@herojack41 i think better you put your rig details in your signature, easier to refer. hahaha your cpu running at what speed?? seems like you are running at stock. hmm.....
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sang_karim	Nov 19 2007, 11:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #203
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 19 2007, 11:06 AM) @herojack41 i think better you put your rig details in your signature, easier to refer. hahaha your cpu running at what speed?? seems like you are running at stock. hmm..... oredi told him b4 to put his rig spec at siggy ... i geuss he dunno how to put it on siggy kot ...
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fylon	Nov 19 2007, 11:19 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #204
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Sang Lol.. Then u gotta teach him how to put siggy! Working life is bored! Was thinking of ProStreet..
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kabukiawie	Nov 19 2007, 11:23 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #205
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	easy only, install the game in you office then full use the resources. said to your boss that you help promoting the gaming rig to customers. wahahaha....
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TSraymond5105	Nov 19 2007, 11:28 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #206
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(sang_karim @ Nov 19 2007, 11:00 AM) actually there is .. but of coz la very2 rare item to get it here ... CLICK ME ... A nice board,but wasted using VIA chip.Can't o/c high on this chipset.I wander if using DDR667 will boost a lot on the memory bandwidth or not?On the other hand,using 7900GS or 8600GT on this board sure a big gain in gaming but with T/C with high speed processor. QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 19 2007, 11:19 AM) @Sang Lol.. Then u gotta teach him how to put siggy! Working life is bored! Was thinking of ProStreet.. ProStreet is hot now.I bet everyone is playing. QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 19 2007, 11:23 AM) easy only, install the game in you office then full use the resources. said to your boss that you help promoting the gaming rig to customers. wahahaha.... Can install the game but need original one.
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zeipher	Nov 19 2007, 11:39 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #207
Casual Junior Member 330 posts Joined: Dec 2006	QUOTE ProStreet is hot now.I bet everyone is playing. I'm not ~!! my pc won't let me play and no time to go grab the ps2 version work OT all the way
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sang_karim	Nov 19 2007, 11:43 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #208
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(zeipher @ Nov 19 2007, 11:39 AM) I'm not ~!! my pc won't let me play and no time to go grab the ps2 version work OT all the way i'm not playing either ... more to watching tv series and movie one ... .. as my oc quest to reach 4Ghz oredi done ... dunno what to tweak anymore ...
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kabukiawie	Nov 19 2007, 12:07 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #209
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@sang_karim i second to you. didnt into playing mood. hahahaha...give me five! weird la your chip wont get beyond that. hmm..... even with more vdimm also the same? i thought at least it can go till 4ghz. but running at 3.8 is really a great satisfaction i can only imagine in my dream. @raymond i am out of your bet. wahaha... its original!! for more detail, it is actually originally pirated. This post has been edited by kabukiawie: Nov 19 2007, 12:14 PM
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sang_karim	Nov 19 2007, 12:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #210
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 19 2007, 12:07 PM) @sang_karim i second to you. didnt into playing mood. hahahaha...give me five! weird la your chip wont get beyond that. hmm..... even with more vdimm also the same? i thought at least it can go till 4ghz. but running at 3.8 is really a great satisfaction i can only imagine in my dream. maybe what shawty said was rite .. it's all about the mobo ... maybe if using P4C800-E Deluxe i can't easily reach 4Ghz ...
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TSraymond5105	Nov 19 2007, 12:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #211
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Haha,some of your here are not playing.I bet at the moment now just fylon alone is epxeriencing with the new game.I also not intend to install the game as my GC performs bad. @sang,i think now you can start to playback some video with last time shinjite uploaded.Check and see can playback smooth or not.fylon should also try on the video playback too with his 4GHz.
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sang_karim	Nov 19 2007, 12:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #212
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Nov 19 2007, 12:50 PM) Haha,some of your here are not playing.I bet at the moment now just fylon alone is epxeriencing with the new game.I also not intend to install the game as my GC performs bad. @sang,i think now you can start to playback some video with last time shinjite uploaded.Check and see can playback smooth or not.fylon should also try on the video playback too with his 4GHz. owh..that video ... i'm gonna try went back at home .... but still dun really know wat to look at coz last time i can play the video normally ...
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fylon	Nov 19 2007, 01:07 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #213
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Ray Ehe.. Dont like that. Well.. Got new game ma.. Then play. I believe Edmin will try this game out soon. As his 76GS was almost on par or better then my 68GT! Should be no problem for ProStreet. The HD video? Yup.. Got time wanna try out. But im still looking for good codec which wont make my WMP get crazy when playing certain format. I was currently use the Korean player. The KMPlayer, so far so good. Just cannot track the fps. @Sang Hm.. Beside mobo, i think proc also playing an important roll. Not just the mobo. Thats my 2 cent. This post has been edited by fylon: Nov 19 2007, 01:07 PM
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edministrator	Nov 19 2007, 01:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #214
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 19 2007, 01:07 PM) @Ray Ehe.. Dont like that. Well.. Got new game ma.. Then play. I believe Edmin will try this game out soon. As his 76GS was almost on par or better then my 68GT! Should be no problem for ProStreet. Eh...me ah, u sponsor me the game, fylon, i will review a bit...hehehe... been busy lately on fixing PCs and catching up Robotech series in my room (of course using my s478 rig), no time for games... Robotech rocks... wanna hunt for the mecha model when i have the time...muahahaha...
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fylon	Nov 19 2007, 01:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #215
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@edmin Ar? Robotech? Whats that? U come over my house take the DVD.
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TSraymond5105	Nov 19 2007, 01:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #216
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon,i think the HD video are really no good in playback on S478.It's eating out alomost 100% of the processor time.WMP player is so so only.The alternative one would be the Media Player Classic.I like this player.How long are you aiming to finish the Prostreet?
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kabukiawie	Nov 19 2007, 01:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #217
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@sang_karim the mobo plays important role in oc. too bad mine is 'tight budget" mobo. till now i didnt see much people using p4p800E dlx mobo. if next time got chance, maybe grab a 875 mobo. hohoho... @Ed apa macam? haha....buzy rush Robotech?? no more oc?? ngiahahaha.... @fylon for me, the best player i prefered is windows media player classic. play almost everything. brother, have you ever think of do PAT mod on your p4p800se?? running at 4GHz with full PAT will be real sweet. last time i had read some forum on this mod and if can run 1:1 at very high speed, PAT modding can squeeze 3-5% more performance than normal. i have seen some p4p800se users successfully mod and the result quite interesting. Just my 2 cents la. ofcoz the risk is there. This post has been edited by kabukiawie: Nov 19 2007, 01:44 PM
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fylon	Nov 19 2007, 01:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #218
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Ray Haha.. Hm.. Any nice codec intro? Wanna try the power of 4G! I will try the video out when im free. ProStreet? I guess the same is kinda long. I had raced over 30++ racing baru reach 6-8% complete. Nvm.. Such a good game need to take long time finish. Im disappointed with Carbon actually. I spend 15hrs to completed the game. But ProStreet kinda different as it almost like GT4.. More realistic on the driving part! That what im looking for. @Kabu Yup. I read about the review before. Something like flash the bios right? Anyways i dont plan wanna risk this mobo anymore. So just let it be at the original one will do. As i read from the article says that if modded to other bios, it cannot have better ram ratio. Just to gain extra 3-5% performance and wanna put the mobo on risk. I choose not to put on risk!
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herojack41	Nov 19 2007, 02:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #219
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	-EDITED- know liao This post has been edited by herojack41: Nov 19 2007, 02:19 PM
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kabukiawie	Nov 19 2007, 02:11 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #220
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon i mentioned the mod to you is because you manage to get 1:1 till 4GHz. so the divider thing is not a problem to you. well, choice is yours. i want to do the mod but my mobo cant do it at all. so no point la. if you wanna try that, better tell us. i didnt see any 478 users doing that yet.
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herojack41	Nov 19 2007, 02:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #221
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	put de
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pengster	Nov 19 2007, 02:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #222
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 19 2007, 09:04 AM) @sang_karim Nop for 3.48Gh with 4:5 ratio, meaning 218fsb:273mhz .. I dint. But tried in stock speed. Gain around 42s.. As i know, super PI were more depend on cpu rather then ram. Correct me if im wrong. But memory bandwidth is slightly increase at 4:5 ratio due of PAT enable. @Ray Haha.. Nah! Pensgter GC also enough juice for this card. Come come.. Invest new GC! I saw alot of nice game around now. Cant wait to dominated all the ProStreet now! Next game might be Gears of Wars.. doubt my rig can handle ProStreet smoothly larh.it's already having problems with CSS with 2X AF i dont even get decent playable FPS when playing CSS during heavy fighting part. QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Nov 19 2007, 09:31 AM) @fylon,ya going to invest for new GC sometime later.Hehe,see year end bonus can fit me for a new GC or not.Pengster seems like now busy for his SPM exam.Now he can't play ProStreet. @kabu,BH5 you will have some feel.You will see the bandwidth is much more better than normal RAM. lol im not sitting for SPM yet man.1 more year for me
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fylon	Nov 19 2007, 02:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #223
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Kabu Yup.. 4G with 1:1 ratio.. That what im waiting for actually. At the end it come true. But anyways, i dont wanna do the mod la. As i dont have backup mobo with me. Once this 1 'kong' then im going to dead for times. Otherwise, go ur house dig ur socket A borrow me. @Pengster Owh? Ur GC cant handle CSS? Hm.. Never try mine with that game before. As i dont really like FPS game. If something like C&C 3 or NFS, i sure will play on it.
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sang_karim	Nov 19 2007, 03:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #224
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(herojack41 @ Nov 19 2007, 02:23 PM) put de now that's better ... so, u oredi oc ur rig a bit rite? have u check ur KVR? what chipset it's using? hynix?
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herojack41	Nov 19 2007, 03:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #225
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(sang_karim @ Nov 19 2007, 03:17 PM) now that's better ... so, u oredi oc ur rig a bit rite? have u check ur KVR? what chipset it's using? hynix?� i down clock liao ,since fylon and other user tell me...my voltage thingy are not stable....is too risky to OC....so i decided down clock back how to check KVR?? This post has been edited by herojack41: Nov 19 2007, 03:31 PM
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kabukiawie	Nov 19 2007, 03:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #226
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon if you want i can spond my 2000+ and the mobo to you. promise that you give me your p4p800se. wahahahaha @herojack41 thats better. so you havent oc?? just disable the auto oc option in bios then manually increase the 5mhz at a tiome till you fail boot to windows. the rest you set to auto(like ram timing, vcore, vdimm etc). once you have reach oc limit(when cannot boot to windows), slowly decrease 1mhz at a time till can get into windows. since you dont have the good cooler around, better dont increase the vcore. at stock i think there is no problem for you to get till 3ghz. are yours prescott or northwood? (just saw you update it, prescott, right? 2.8E) FYI, oc on stock vcore still not having huge risk of spoil your system. better be sure that you keep an eye on the cpu temp. if over 50C then better stop pushing more eventhough it can go further. because you are using prescott. consult fylon and sang_karim, they have almost the same stuffs like yours. Wondering why all of you getting p4p800se?? wahahahaha.... Edited: update some info. This post has been edited by kabukiawie: Nov 19 2007, 03:41 PM
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herojack41	Nov 19 2007, 03:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #227
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 19 2007, 03:34 PM) @fylon if you want i can spond my 2000+ and the mobo to you. promise that you give me your p4p800se. wahahahaha @herojack41 thats better. so you havent oc?? just disable the auto oc option in bios then manually increase the 5mhz at a tiome till you fail boot to windows. the rest you set to auto(like ram timing, vcore, vdimm etc). once you have reach oc limit(when cannot boot to windows), slowly decrease 1mhz at a time till can get into windows. since you dont have the good cooler around, better dont increase the vcore. at stock i think there is no problem for you to get till 3ghz. are yours prescott or northwood? FYI, oc on stock vcore still not having huge risk of spoil your system. better be sure that you keep an eye on the cpu temp. if over 50C then better stop pushing more eventhough it can go further. consult fylon and sang_karim, they have almost the same stuffs like yours. Wondering why all of you getting p4p800se?? wahahahaha.... lol....i have been using this rig 4 years already...before this"i mean now" P4P800SE 478socket are latest lor.....i think . my monster processor temperature always around 55~60++ with intel cooler master.my processor are prescott This post has been edited by herojack41: Nov 19 2007, 03:42 PM
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sang_karim	Nov 19 2007, 03:43 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #228
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(herojack41 @ Nov 19 2007, 03:30 PM) i down clock liao ,since fylon and other user tell me...my voltage thingy are not stable....is too risky to OC....so i decided down clock back how to check KVR?? owh .. u run at stock oredi aa ... well, ur 12V rail not so stable ... that's why fylon said it's kindda risk to oc ur system ... maybe u need to change ur psu if u want to oc kaw2 la ... bout that KVR, u can see with ur bare eyes on the ram's chip ... u can check it here if u want to know about gud chipset for rams .. Click Me This post has been edited by sang_karim: Nov 19 2007, 03:44 PM
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kabukiawie	Nov 19 2007, 03:47 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #229
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(herojack41 @ Nov 19 2007, 03:41 PM) lol....i have been using this rig 4 years already...before this"i mean now" P4P800SE 478socket are latest lor.....i think . my monster processor temperature always around 55~60++ with intel cooler master.my processor are prescott i think your airflow in your casing is not good. try improve the airflow like have good intake and exhaust airflow, tidy up the cable. easiest way of testing the airflow---> open side panel. if the temp decrease alot mean you need to do something to your casing airflow. i faced that problem before last time with my prescott. close side panel temp pump up till >50C!! once open case it drop <40C. for years i use this rig open side panel.
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sang_karim	Nov 19 2007, 03:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #230
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 19 2007, 03:47 PM) i think your airflow in your casing is not good. try improve the airflow like have good intake and exhaust airflow, tidy up the cable. easiest way of testing the airflow---> open side panel. if the temp decrease alot mean you need to do something to your casing airflow. i faced that problem before last time with my prescott. close side panel temp pump up till >50C!! once open case it drop <40C. for years i use this rig open side panel. but beware of that open side panel or else u might see sum fried cicak inside there ....
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herojack41	Nov 19 2007, 03:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #231
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(sang_karim @ Nov 19 2007, 03:43 PM) owh .. u run at stock oredi aa ... well, ur 12V rail not so stable ... that's why fylon said it's kindda risk to oc ur system ... maybe u need to change ur psu if u want to oc kaw2 la ... bout that KVR, u can see with ur bare eyes on the ram's chip ... u can check it here if u want to know about gud chipset for rams .. Click Me okok...thanks...but i lazy removing da ram card maybe few more weeks....i take out and have a bath for da ram QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 19 2007, 03:47 PM) i think your airflow in your casing is not good. try improve the airflow like have good intake and exhaust airflow, tidy up the cable. easiest way of testing the airflow---> open side panel. if the temp decrease alot mean you need to do something to your casing airflow. i faced that problem before last time with my prescott. close side panel temp pump up till >50C!! once open case it drop <40C. for years i use this rig open side panel. kabukiawie,thanks for da information.my side panel are always open....maybe is still too near da wall i try move it far away,nothing blocking my north bridge and prosser cooler
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sang_karim	Nov 19 2007, 04:07 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #232
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(herojack41 @ Nov 19 2007, 03:54 PM) kabukiawie,thanks for da information.my side panel are always open....maybe is still too near da wall i try move it far away,nothing blocking my north bridge and prosser cooler i think it's kinda normal if u r using stock hsf coz i remember when i'm using stock hsf with 2.4Ghz .. the temp is around that ... maybe u can reattach ur hsf and use AS5 or MX-2 for thermal paste .. maybe can help a bit ...
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kabukiawie	Nov 19 2007, 04:07 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #233
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@herojack41 haha...if you want my northwood, hehehehe...maybe i want to trade with your prescott. at least with northwood you can oc without more worry on the temp even on stock HFS. mine now running at temp <38C on load. even oc till 3.3GHz also less than 43C full load. i love the temp. This post has been edited by kabukiawie: Nov 19 2007, 04:09 PM
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zeipher	Nov 19 2007, 04:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #234
Casual Junior Member 330 posts Joined: Dec 2006	open side panel = comp jadi dust collector need to dust once in a while to keep the computer clean. but can see the temperature drop... add a table fan... lagi drop banyak banyak running mine with side panel close now... temp on full load = 46-50C... guess time to reapply AS5 but lazy la This post has been edited by zeipher: Nov 19 2007, 04:18 PM
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kabukiawie	Nov 19 2007, 04:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #235
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	thats the total idea of open case...wahahaha....i used a tablefan to blow diirectly to the casing. dust is alot but performance is great. hehehe but dont smoke and keep you room clean, then you can open the case panel. ofcoz for permanent solution, improve the casing airflow is important like add intake and exhaust fan. i tell herojack to open the case is to chenk is the cpu really hot or just the hot air still trap nearby HFS area.
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sang_karim	Nov 19 2007, 04:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #236
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	maybe herojak need to add sume case fan for better air flow ... i'm using 4 x 80mm fan to cool down my rig ...
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edministrator	Nov 19 2007, 04:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #237
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	i modded my sidepanel from acrylic to meshed, no cicak or lipas can attack. keeps the temp under control. This post has been edited by edministrator: Nov 19 2007, 04:46 PM
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kabukiawie	Nov 19 2007, 05:03 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #238
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@Ed hahaha...i know yours since socketA already using meshed side panel. can see bling bling somemore. hahahaha your oc stop liao?? why no sound??
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edministrator	Nov 19 2007, 05:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #239
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 19 2007, 05:03 PM) @Ed hahaha...i know yours since socketA already using meshed side panel. can see bling bling somemore. hahahaha your oc stop liao?? why no sound?? OC oledi stopped @ 3.33Ghz. Enough for me. Watch anime, watch US drama series, listen to MP3... make my life more interesting... coz pocket not interesting enough to play with new tech, C2Q, GF8, etc...
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herojack41	Nov 19 2007, 06:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #240
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 19 2007, 04:07 PM) @herojack41 haha...if you want my northwood, hehehehe...maybe i want to trade with your prescott. at least with northwood you can oc without more worry on the temp even on stock HFS. mine now running at temp <38C on load. even oc till 3.3GHz also less than 43C full load. i love the temp. hahah...prescott are faster QUOTE(zeipher @ Nov 19 2007, 04:16 PM) open side panel = comp jadi dust collector need to dust once in a while to keep the computer clean. but can see the temperature drop... add a table fan... lagi drop banyak banyak running mine with side panel close now... temp on full load = 46-50C... guess time to reapply AS5 but lazy la i duno how to plug out my processer cooler.... is a intel cooler master......where can i buy those liquid...liquid thing???and how much??
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kabukiawie	Nov 19 2007, 07:07 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #241
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@herojack nono....if can oc higher, northwood are better coz you can overclock more using stock HFS compare to prescott. hahahaha..... jk jk. i know prescott is faster la. the thermal paste can be buy at pc shop. the popular brand is like Artic Silver 5, AC MX2(fylon, correct or not? ) etc.
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pengster	Nov 19 2007, 07:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #242
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 19 2007, 02:49 PM) @Kabu Yup.. 4G with 1:1 ratio.. That what im waiting for actually. At the end it come true. But anyways, i dont wanna do the mod la. As i dont have backup mobo with me. Once this 1 'kong' then im going to dead for times. Otherwise, go ur house dig ur socket A borrow me. @Pengster Owh? Ur GC cant handle CSS? Hm.. Never try mine with that game before. As i dont really like FPS game. If something like C&C 3 or NFS, i sure will play on it. not to say cant handle la.but it gets laggy when there's heavy fighting going on.something around below 20fps.sometimes can even drop to 10fps if i play with bots. so far after disabling PAT i can achieve 2700Mhz stable.on my old PSU. lol
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herojack41	Nov 19 2007, 07:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #243
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 19 2007, 07:07 PM) @herojack nono....if can oc higher, northwood are better coz you can overclock more using stock HFS compare to prescott. hahahaha..... jk jk. i know prescott is faster la. the thermal paste can be buy at pc shop. the popular brand is like Artic Silver 5, AC MX2(fylon, correct or not? ) etc. last time i saw my technical help me change da cooler...there is a piece of thing...izzit thats da thermal paste???...if i buy that thermal paste already hor....i also duno how to plug out my intel cooler master
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zeipher	Nov 19 2007, 08:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #244
Casual Junior Member 330 posts Joined: Dec 2006	@herojack41 open your casing and see... there should have screws or clippers to hold your hsf. comparing both AS5 and MX2 which perform better ? heard that MX2 is not conductor... so is safer to apply. true ar ?
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overclockalbert	Nov 19 2007, 08:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #245
Regular Senior Member 1,058 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Penang , Malaysia	@herojack41, U PENANG LANG KAH? where u stay?
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herojack41	Nov 19 2007, 08:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #246
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(zeipher @ Nov 19 2007, 08:36 PM) @herojack41 open your casing and see... there should have screws or clippers to hold your hsf. comparing both AS5 and MX2 which perform better ? heard that MX2 is not conductor... so is safer to apply. true ar ? i tryed to remove it....with screw driver....is goddamn hard .it got 4 point that hold da fan....
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kabukiawie	Nov 19 2007, 08:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #247
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@harojack maybe you take picture of your cooler. so that we can help observe how to take out the cooler. if just the stock hfs, it should be quite easy to take out.
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herojack41	Nov 19 2007, 09:13 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #248
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(overclockalbert @ Nov 19 2007, 08:41 PM) @herojack41, U PENANG LANG KAH? where u stay? i stay at KL QUOTE @harojack maybe you take picture of your cooler. so that we can help observe how to take out the cooler. if just the stock hfs, it should be quite easy to take out. i dun have digital camera and phone camera also ...my webcam cant snap photo....if snap also very dark....cant even snap finnaly i found da same exact picture on ebay da heatsink are different This post has been edited by herojack41: Nov 19 2007, 09:38 PM
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kabukiawie	Nov 19 2007, 09:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #249
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	okok easy la like this, just turn off the power, then unplug the 2 white clip to another side, then gently unplug the 4 clips that anchor the bracket. slowly remove it then together with fan+sink can take out already.
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herojack41	Nov 19 2007, 09:57 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #250
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 19 2007, 09:56 PM) okok easy la like this, just turn off the power, then unplug the 2 white clip to another side, then gently unplug the 4 clips that anchor the bracket. slowly remove it then together with fan+sink can take out already. i having problem on da clip ler..... ...duno how to unplug :xthat anchor really hard....like i remove this place...den another place den get stucked again This post has been edited by herojack41: Nov 19 2007, 10:04 PM
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TSraymond5105	Nov 19 2007, 10:03 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #251
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 19 2007, 01:58 PM) @Ray Haha.. Hm.. Any nice codec intro? Wanna try the power of 4G! I will try the video out when im free. ProStreet? I guess the same is kinda long. I had raced over 30++ racing baru reach 6-8% complete. Nvm.. Such a good game need to take long time finish. Im disappointed with Carbon actually. I spend 15hrs to completed the game. But ProStreet kinda different as it almost like GT4.. More realistic on the driving part! That what im looking for. @Kabu Yup. I read about the review before. Something like flash the bios right? Anyways i dont plan wanna risk this mobo anymore. So just let it be at the original one will do. As i read from the article says that if modded to other bios, it cannot have better ram ratio. Just to gain extra 3-5% performance and wanna put the mobo on risk. I choose not to put on risk! Ya,i play the demo is a bit hard to control the car.From Underground 2 onwards,they are chaging the way to control the cars in the game.Flash bios with modded one is risky,don't practice it if you don't have any confident on the bios. QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 19 2007, 02:49 PM) @Kabu Yup.. 4G with 1:1 ratio.. That what im waiting for actually. At the end it come true. But anyways, i dont wanna do the mod la. As i dont have backup mobo with me. Once this 1 'kong' then im going to dead for times. Otherwise, go ur house dig ur socket A borrow me. @Pengster Owh? Ur GC cant handle CSS? Hm.. Never try mine with that game before. As i dont really like FPS game. If something like C&C 3 or NFS, i sure will play on it. FPS game is a bit hard and challenge to be played,C&C 3 and NFS are totally different from FPS games.WE can say FPS games are one man show games. QUOTE(pengster @ Nov 19 2007, 07:10 PM) not to say cant handle la.but it gets laggy when there's heavy fighting going on.something around below 20fps.sometimes can even drop to 10fps if i play with bots. so far after disabling PAT i can achieve 2700Mhz stable.on my old PSU. lol Your 6800GS shouldn't be that week to play the CS.What kind of resolution you are using?You use Open GL or Software mode in the game?
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edministrator	Nov 19 2007, 10:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #252
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	tested 1440x900, 4xAA, 16XAF, Max details, 12bots, no lag on CSS. On these settings, running the CSS stress test = +-90fps This post has been edited by edministrator: Nov 19 2007, 10:07 PM
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kabukiawie	Nov 19 2007, 10:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #253
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@herojack i thought yours is cooler master HFS, thats why i ask for the picture. but the picture is just normal HFS la. ok, about the clip, slowly pull aside from the hole and pull up a bit so that it wont go back hole again. then do the same at the other side. just be careful and gentle.it should be fine. Good luck unpluging your hfs. if really cant do it, just get your technician and you observe how he take out the cooler. learn from expert ma.
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herojack41	Nov 19 2007, 10:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #254
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 19 2007, 10:14 PM) @herojack i thought yours is cooler master HFS, thats why i ask for the picture. but the picture is just normal HFS la. ok, about the clip, slowly pull aside from the hole and pull up a bit so that it wont go back hole again. then do the same at the other side. just be careful and gentle.it should be fine. Good luck unpluging your hfs. if really cant do it, just get your technician and you observe how he take out the cooler. learn from expert ma. lol....even my technician have problem with it...my first intel cooler master.while my technician finish cleaning and he try to put it back....den it clash when he wanna try take back out......cannot take out anymore de den when he try harder....PLAKwhole intel cooler master bye bye de,this 1 is new 1 he gave it to me This post has been edited by herojack41: Nov 19 2007, 10:18 PM
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TSraymond5105	Nov 19 2007, 10:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #255
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	This is not hard to remove,but is preety hard to express in words.
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kabukiawie	Nov 19 2007, 10:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #256
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	if i sent the pc to the pc shop that broke my HFS, i wont ever and never go back to him anymore.
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herojack41	Nov 19 2007, 10:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #257
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	personal technician....i think its because of my processor got 70 celcius thats why......so easy to break
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kabukiawie	Nov 19 2007, 10:29 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #258
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	i honestly can tell you that there is no such thing as temp too high become easy break, is the way of doing it is wrong. i never come across people that break the clip especially the intel 1. for amd socket A then it really neet some skills to remove and install it. you ask Edmin, he sure say socket A is the hardest to deal with. intel 1 all easy install. pentium 3 is a bit tricky, but once the pentium4 come out, all quite userfriendly. correct me if i am wrong.
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edministrator	Nov 19 2007, 10:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #259
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	aiyoh, kabu, u know i know lah, socket A heatsink, a bit of force can break the Mobo! P4 one, sap sap water lah... bro herojack41, i seriously doubt your 'personal technician', sounds like chapalang technician/mechanic?... and your heatsink is original Intel heatsink, not 'coolermaster'! do not be confused!!! This post has been edited by edministrator: Nov 19 2007, 10:34 PM
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herojack41	Nov 19 2007, 10:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #260
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 19 2007, 10:29 PM) i honestly can tell you that there is no such thing as temp too high become easy break, is the way of doing it is wrong. i never come across people that break the clip especially the intel 1. for amd socket A then it really neet some skills to remove and install it. you ask Edmin, he sure say socket A is the hardest to deal with. intel 1 all easy install. pentium 3 is a bit tricky, but once the pentium4 come out, all quite userfriendly. correct me if i am wrong. hm...duno ler....maybe is me noob cant understand....i will try it later on....izzit da bracket are stick on da mobo already?? QUOTE aiyoh, kabu, u know i know lah, socket A heatsink, a bit of force can break the Mobo! P4 one, sap sap water lah... bro herojack41, i seriously doubt your 'personal technician', sounds like chapalang technician/mechanic?... and your heatsink is original Intel heatsink, not 'coolermaster'! do not be confused!!! i know...its intel coolermaster only This post has been edited by herojack41: Nov 19 2007, 10:41 PM
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kabukiawie	Nov 19 2007, 10:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #261
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@herojack here is something you might need. http://www.pctechguide.com/tutorials/Pentium4_Remove.htm brother, intel produce its own hfs la. coolermaster is the 3rd party cooler manufacturer. link below is coolermaster website http://www.coolermaster.com/index.php?language=en This post has been edited by kabukiawie: Nov 19 2007, 10:45 PM
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edministrator	Nov 19 2007, 10:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #262
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(herojack41 @ Nov 19 2007, 10:37 PM) i know...its intel coolermaster only no no bro, INTEL stock heatsink, not INTEL COOLERMASTER
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fylon	Nov 19 2007, 10:43 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #263
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(herojack41 @ Nov 19 2007, 06:54 PM) hahah...prescott are faster Not really. Clock to clock in stock speed, Northwood is far faster then Prescott. Due Prescott have deeper pipeline. It takes more time to done a cycle. Well.. This is kinda technical thingy. Prescott will shine with high FSB. With OC result, Prescott is leading with high clock speed. AS5 & MX-2, is depend on urs choice. As myself is using MX-2. Not bad.. Idle for my monster at 3.6Ghz around 39-41'c. And fan only run at 1.2k rpm. About ur stock hsf, are u sure ur technician is skilled enough? I never heard that person who called 'technician' break customer item. P4 heatsink are actually very easy to take off. Dont have to be skill enough but u have to be smart on how to bend the kaki and take the fan off from each of the fan click. Anyways, im agreed with Edmin.. Im doubting about ur personal 'technician'.. 70'c Celsius on northwood? U sure? 70'c is near the edge of frying off ur Northwood already. Btw, ur mobo dont support Thermal Throttle? Well.. Provided ur got enable this function. For more information about Thermal Throttle, press HERE. @Ray Yea.. Im not going to risk my 800SE anymore. Scare la.. Hard to find mobo u know. I think if this time it got dead, i will turn dark side!
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kabukiawie	Nov 19 2007, 10:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #264
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon hahaha.....i think technician at your place do things like that, sure kena goreng kaw kaw. btw, he is using the presHott. 2.8E. but the skill of that technician is really... so i suspect that the technician didnt install the thermal paste and HFS properly till the heat cant release properly.
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sang_karim	Nov 19 2007, 10:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #265
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	@herojack41 dude .. u won't learn if u don't ever try to do it urself ... last year i'm also scared to explore this pc things ... how to put the cables .. where the cables should be at the rite place .. how to clean ur hsf ... how the proc look like .. etc ... and i remember as i eager to clean the hsf coz wanna reduce the temp .. i just attach the hsf on the proc without any thermal paste ... that kindda gud experience to me ... u'll learn sumthing from there ...
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herojack41	Nov 19 2007, 10:57 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #266
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	@fylon im using prescott lor.... = = thanks guys.....who giving me alot of information thanks ya,i will try myself....eh...actually those thermal paste how much de? Added on November 19, 2007, 11:01 pm QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 19 2007, 10:49 PM) @fylon hahaha.....i think technician at your place do things like that, sure kena goreng kaw kaw. btw, he is using the presHott. 2.8E. but the skill of that technician is really... so i suspect that the technician didnt install the thermal paste and HFS properly till the heat cant release properly. accidently 1 lor.... QUOTE(sang_karim @ Nov 19 2007, 10:53 PM) @herojack41 dude .. u won't learn if u don't ever try to do it urself ... last year i'm also scared to explore this pc things ... how to put the cables .. where the cables should be at the rite place .. how to clean ur hsf ... how the proc look like .. etc ... and i remember as i eager to clean the hsf coz wanna reduce the temp .. i just attach the hsf on the proc without any thermal paste ... that kindda gud experience to me ... u'll learn sumthing from there ... wat happend if din put thermal paste into it???burn?? This post has been edited by herojack41: Nov 19 2007, 11:01 PM
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sang_karim	Nov 19 2007, 11:05 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #267
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(herojack41 @ Nov 19 2007, 10:57 PM) @fylon im using prescott lor.... = = thanks guys.....who giving me alot of information thanks ya,i will try myself....eh...actually those thermal paste how much de? Added on November 19, 2007, 11:01 pm accidently 1 lor.... wat happend if din put thermal paste into it???burn?? u want to know? give a try ... i dun have a chance to try it b4 for a long run ... joke .. joke ... the proc gonna die fast kot if without the thermal paste ...
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kabukiawie	Nov 19 2007, 11:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #268
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@herojack worst case is burn your cpu. what thermal paste are you using?? maybe get the name of the thermal paste then look for its official website. it should provide the guide how to use their product.
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fylon	Nov 19 2007, 11:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #269
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Kabu Yea.. I saw once. Terus got goreng by the boss! Due dint install properly customer mobo. If im not mistaken, a quad core proc were burnt due to incorrect installation of cable. @herojack41 Haha.. Actually u dun nid purposely put a Prescott on ur siggy. Just drop a E there will do already. I mean write it as 2.8E, with that, ppl will know is a PresHot Core based. Yup. Without thermal grease/paste, the heat that produced by the processor unable to get transmitted fast to heatsink. Thus, it makes ur processor get hotter then ever. Thermal paste are actually a small layer of material in between the processor & HSF. Its function as helps transfer the heat from processor to hsf.
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herojack41	Nov 19 2007, 11:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #270
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	@kabukiawie on da new hsf got ady
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sang_karim	Nov 19 2007, 11:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #271
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	@herojack41 AS5 or MX-2 i think around RM30-RM40 per tube at Lowyat ... if u wanna get one, why not u get better hsf .. pair them together surely gonna cool down ur preshot ...
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kabukiawie	Nov 19 2007, 11:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #272
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@herojack new hfs?? what do you mean?? you have bought a new hfs?? @fylon fried the quad core?? OMG!!!!! if i am the boss i will punch him hard. haha......why dont give the quad core to me instead of fried it. really silly that guy. some time i quite scare when installing new components on pc. better check all the parts and cables properly twice before turn on. don dare to fried the parts. if not cry wiothout tear. This post has been edited by kabukiawie: Nov 19 2007, 11:17 PM
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fylon	Nov 19 2007, 11:13 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #273
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	U using new hsf already? Are the thermal paste like a piece of chewing gum type? It it was, then it should be stock thermal paste. Which are LOW class type. (Well for me it was, i never use stock thermal paste, at least CM Nano Fusion. ) If i were u, i will use the 3rd party type.
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kabukiawie	Nov 19 2007, 11:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #274
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	haha...fylon, my thermalright thermal paste still in the box not yet celebrate opening ceremony le. my little stick of AC5 just lest 20%.
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sang_karim	Nov 19 2007, 11:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #275
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	haha .. my cap ayam coolermaster paste also still about 50% unuse ... for now just lazy to reattach the hsf back coz blocked by the psu if wanna install it back .. need to cabut the top part of casing in order to install it back ... this make me feel wanna get new big casing ..
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pengster	Nov 19 2007, 11:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #276
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Nov 19 2007, 10:03 PM) Ya,i play the demo is a bit hard to control the car.From Underground 2 onwards,they are chaging the way to control the cars in the game.Flash bios with modded one is risky,don't practice it if you don't have any confident on the bios. FPS game is a bit hard and challenge to be played,C&C 3 and NFS are totally different from FPS games.WE can say FPS games are one man show games. Your 6800GS shouldn't be that week to play the CS.What kind of resolution you are using?You use Open GL or Software mode in the game? like i said,mine's the crippled 128bit 128mb version all my settings are max out and on 1024x768 reso with 2x AF. btw,just installed the monster in my com took me over an hour cause of my small casing and Ultra90.block the way and i ended up scratching the OP650. oh well,its running now.
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sang_karim	Nov 19 2007, 11:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #277
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(pengster @ Nov 19 2007, 11:35 PM) like i said,mine's the crippled 128bit 128mb version all my settings are max out and on 1024x768 reso with 2x AF. btw,just installed the monster in my com took me over an hour cause of my small casing and Ultra90.block the way and i ended up scratching the OP650. oh well,its running now. how's the 12V rail? show us some screenie dude ..
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fylon	Nov 19 2007, 11:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #278
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Kabu Ehehe.. Yea! Quad.. Thats why i say, that technician terus goreng by the boss. Anyways, i always double checked after all the component is installed properly before press the ON button. Ehe.. My new MX-2 i think still got 95% full tube. Anyways, for those who OC their system now.. Is better reapply ur thermal paste every 2-3mnths. I mean do cleaning for ur system. I suppose u guys know that the thermal paste will get dried faster then run on stock when on OC. Due long time work on high temperature. I clean up and apply new every 2months for my system.
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pengster	Nov 19 2007, 11:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #279
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	@sang_karim that was what i was just about to do. the volts are kinda weird though.not sure if its good or not.this is taken when idling.with the latest everest ultimate edition. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « kinda worried about the 12v. This post has been edited by pengster: Nov 19 2007, 11:55 PM
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zeipher	Nov 20 2007, 12:52 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #280
Casual Junior Member 330 posts Joined: Dec 2006	my friend once ask me before why his proc so hot till the comp can only on for half an hour... coz too hot and comp auto shut down. then i ask him... wtf did you do with your comp, and he replied that he take out the cpu hsf and cleaned it. so i ask what thermal paste did you use but my friend stare back at me blankly and ask wtf is a thermal paste and i was like ask him to go lowyat get any thermal paste that he like since he not oc-ing his pc... take out the hsf and apply the thermal paste. woila... temp drop more than 25++++C
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pengster	Nov 20 2007, 01:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #281
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	LOL.thats damn dangerous weih.lucky for him the proc didnt get fried
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kabukiawie	Nov 20 2007, 07:16 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #282
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon a quad core cpu can easily cost over rm1k, lucky your boss didnt ask for refund. haha........ @zeipher if northwood then still ok, prescott then i not guarentee it will not fried. if its socket A super hot cpu, confirm burn. hahaha....... i have tried didnt use the thermal paste for my duron last time coz dont have it and too noob that time. lickily didnt fried the cpu. now dont dare already. @sang_karim its time to change a new casing. @pengster the 12v rail is a bit high. is it ok?? i am quite noob about psu.
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fylon	Nov 20 2007, 08:12 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #283
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Pensgter How comet eh 12v rail goes so high? Almost near 13v.. Hows ur component temperature? HDD? Seems quite abnormal to me. Never saw a high 12v before. @Kabu Yup.. Quad now is arouns 980 per biji. Well.. Kuching ppl not that hardcore. 3months only sold 3 biji Quad. Haha!
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TSraymond5105	Nov 20 2007, 08:44 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #284
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@pengster,your 12V is damn stable but seems like the reading is just a little bit high.I've same opinion with fylon,i also never see the 12v will go near 12.8v.
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kabukiawie	Nov 20 2007, 08:46 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #285
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon cant expect much from kuching market. if play C2D already consider hardcore already. if for me i also wont play quad core. hahaha.......coz i am not hardcore also. kekeke.. you there have sell AC5 or MX2?? if mine habis, maybe can get from you. This post has been edited by kabukiawie: Nov 20 2007, 08:51 AM
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herojack41	Nov 20 2007, 09:00 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #286
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 19 2007, 11:08 PM) @herojack worst case is burn your cpu. what thermal paste are you using?? maybe get the name of the thermal paste then look for its official website. it should provide the guide how to use their product. after da old intel hsf broke.....when he gave me da new 1...already stick 1 thermal paste at there de. QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 19 2007, 11:09 PM) @Kabu Yea.. I saw once. Terus got goreng by the boss! Due dint install properly customer mobo. If im not mistaken, a quad core proc were burnt due to incorrect installation of cable. @herojack41 Haha.. Actually u dun nid purposely put a Prescott on ur siggy. Just drop a E there will do already. I mean write it as 2.8E, with that, ppl will know is a PresHot Core based. Yup. Without thermal grease/paste, the heat that produced by the processor unable to get transmitted fast to heatsink. Thus, it makes ur processor get hotter then ever. Thermal paste are actually a small layer of material in between the processor & HSF. Its function as helps transfer the heat from processor to hsf. paiseh....terus goreng . QUOTE(sang_karim @ Nov 19 2007, 11:12 PM) @herojack41 AS5 or MX-2 i think around RM30-RM40 per tube at Lowyat ... if u wanna get one, why not u get better hsf .. pair them together surely gonna cool down ur preshot ... maybe i just get it at my outside computer shop....more easy,cause ar...i never been to lowyat before .im a under well frog.izzit i ask them AS5 or MX-2 thermal paste there will know wat is it?? QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 19 2007, 11:12 PM) @herojack new hfs?? what do you mean?? you have bought a new hfs?? @fylon fried the quad core?? OMG!!!!! if i am the boss i will punch him hard. haha......why dont give the quad core to me instead of fried it. really silly that guy. some time i quite scare when installing new components on pc. better check all the parts and cables properly twice before turn on. don dare to fried the parts. if not cry wiothout tear. lol,my new hsf comes with thermal paste de changed at this year march 31 only"its my birthday " QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 19 2007, 11:13 PM) U using new hsf already? Are the thermal paste like a piece of chewing gum type? It it was, then it should be stock thermal paste. Which are LOW class type. (Well for me it was, i never use stock thermal paste, at least CM Nano Fusion. ) If i were u, i will use the 3rd party type. yes,it come with da chewing gum and its like black colour,come with da intel hsf there.
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TSraymond5105	Nov 20 2007, 09:22 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #287
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	You can ask for AS5 or Artic Cooling MX2 from the shop,the shopkeepers will know what are they. Both products are more or less about the same in performance.
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herojack41	Nov 20 2007, 09:23 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #288
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Nov 20 2007, 09:22 AM) You can ask for AS5 or Artic Cooling MX2 from the shop,the shopkeepers will know what are they. Both products are more or less about the same in performance. pricy de ma???or still have other brand cheaper abit??and same performance
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TSraymond5105	Nov 20 2007, 09:26 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #289
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Of course you have other brands but i'm not knowing them so well. If you buy from shop will be a bit pricey from the bulk order,i bought AS5 very long time ago for RM25 and this year bought a tube of Artic Cooling MX1 for RM25 too.
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herojack41	Nov 20 2007, 09:38 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #290
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Nov 20 2007, 09:26 AM) Of course you have other brands but i'm not knowing them so well. If you buy from shop will be a bit pricey from the bulk order,i bought AS5 very long time ago for RM25 and this year bought a tube of Artic Cooling MX1 for RM25 too. okay...thanks....if da price around rm30-rm50...im not gonna buy it
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zeipher	Nov 20 2007, 09:45 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #291
Casual Junior Member 330 posts Joined: Dec 2006	QUOTE if northwood then still ok, prescott then i not guarentee it will not fried. if its socket A super hot cpu, confirm burn. hahaha....... lucky him coz his on the super hot socket A cpu QUOTE Ehe.. My new MX-2 i think still got 95% full tube. laugh.gif Anyways, for those who OC their system now.. Is better reapply ur thermal paste every 2-3mnths. I mean do cleaning for ur system. I suppose u guys know that the thermal paste will get dried faster then run on stock when on OC. Due long time work on high temperature. smile.gif I clean up and apply new every 2months for my system. laugh.gif no wonder my temp is getting hotter nowadays. lol. haven't reapply my thermal paste for past 4-5mths... but still, lazy la as my temp is still consider ok i think... load temp @46 - 48C depending on the weather
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herojack41	Nov 20 2007, 09:51 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #292
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(zeipher @ Nov 20 2007, 09:45 AM) lucky him coz his on the super hot socket A cpu no wonder my temp is getting hotter nowadays. lol. haven't reapply my thermal paste for past 4-5mths... but still, lazy la as my temp is still consider ok i think... load temp @46 - 48C depending on the weather your system is kinda cold .my GPU even higher then your processor man....46~50++
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kabukiawie	Nov 20 2007, 11:25 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #293
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	dont compare GPU with cpu, nowadays GPU are super duper hot hot hot. expecially the highend gc with giant stock cooler. loud, hot and bulky. @herojack are you still believing your stock HFS is coolermaster?? well, i strongly suggest you change you hfs and psu if you really want to oc. and ofcoz, read more before you installing. those information can save you alot from those preventable so-called 'accidents'.
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pengster	Nov 20 2007, 01:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #294
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 20 2007, 07:16 AM) @fylon a quad core cpu can easily cost over rm1k, lucky your boss didnt ask for refund. haha........ @zeipher if northwood then still ok, prescott then i not guarentee it will not fried. if its socket A super hot cpu, confirm burn. hahaha....... i have tried didnt use the thermal paste for my duron last time coz dont have it and too noob that time. lickily didnt fried the cpu. now dont dare already. @sang_karim its time to change a new casing. @pengster the 12v rail is a bit high. is it ok?? i am quite noob about psu. QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 20 2007, 08:12 AM) @Pensgter How comet eh 12v rail goes so high? Almost near 13v.. Hows ur component temperature? HDD? Seems quite abnormal to me. Never saw a high 12v before. @Kabu Yup.. Quad now is arouns 980 per biji. Well.. Kuching ppl not that hardcore. 3months only sold 3 biji Quad. Haha! QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Nov 20 2007, 08:44 AM) @pengster,your 12V is damn stable but seems like the reading is just a little bit high.I've same opinion with fylon,i also never see the 12v will go near 12.8v. yeah that was what i was a little worries about.however,i've posted in the PSU thread in OC united and irangan said that was fine and Everest aint very accurate with their readings.
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herojack41	Nov 20 2007, 02:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #295
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 20 2007, 11:25 AM) dont compare GPU with cpu, nowadays GPU are super duper hot hot hot. expecially the highend gc with giant stock cooler. loud, hot and bulky. @herojack are you still believing your stock HFS is coolermaster?? well, i strongly suggest you change you hfs and psu if you really want to oc. and ofcoz, read more before you installing. those information can save you alot from those preventable so-called 'accidents'. = =! i havent change it yet ma...lazy to touch that signature i will change it later. btw,no more OC no more thermal paste for this intel p4 rig....i had enough with it due to my $%^&( brother.i will kumpul money and get a decent gaming rig Added on November 20, 2007, 2:33 pmguys....can i build this rig in between 2k~2.5k C2D 2.0ghz or upper 2GB DDR kingston value ram nvidia 7 series 128 or 256 mb 1 dvd burner 450watt true power supply 17" lcd any brands 160gb hdd western or maxtor This post has been edited by herojack41*: Nov 20 2007, 02:35 PM
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TSraymond5105	Nov 20 2007, 02:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #296
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Wao,someone is going to biuld C2D already.
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sang_karim	Nov 20 2007, 02:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #297
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(pengster @ Nov 20 2007, 01:52 PM) yeah that was what i was a little worries about.however,i've posted in the PSU thread in OC united and irangan said that was fine and Everest aint very accurate with their readings. 12.74V aa ... i thought that tolerence is plus minus 5% rite? which means for 12V rail should be around 12.6V - 11.4V ... maybe the reading not so accurate like Irangan said ... well, strong 12V rail u got there ... no doubt bout it ..
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herojack41	Nov 20 2007, 02:44 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #298
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Nov 20 2007, 02:38 PM) Wao,someone is going to biuld C2D already. yeap...thats true . guys....got any price tag on this few product ma??
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mgxbox	Nov 20 2007, 02:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #299
Regular Banned 1,112 posts Joined: Oct 2007	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 20 2007, 08:12 AM) @Pensgter How comet eh 12v rail goes so high? Almost near 13v.. Hows ur component temperature? HDD? Seems quite abnormal to me. Never saw a high 12v before. @Kabu Yup.. Quad now is arouns 980 per biji. Well.. Kuching ppl not that hardcore. 3months only sold 3 biji Quad. Haha! Normal lah, can sell out also consider miracle liao.
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TSraymond5105	Nov 20 2007, 03:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #300
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	You can download the price list from hardwarezone.com there.You can choose the shop and download the price list.
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HMMaster	Nov 20 2007, 03:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #301
10K Club Moderator 10,308 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Nov 20 2007, 02:38 PM) Wao,someone is going to biuld C2D already. Now all new game require dual core... so better upgrade la. Dun think P4 can last any longer...
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TSraymond5105	Nov 20 2007, 03:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #302
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(HMMaster @ Nov 20 2007, 03:09 PM) Now all new game require dual core... so better upgrade la. Dun think P4 can last any longer... Yup,i know in future the games will be very heavy in processing demand.But no choice right now we can just stick to old school P4 only until it's totally cannot support for new applications.
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herojack41	Nov 20 2007, 03:13 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #303
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Nov 20 2007, 03:06 PM) You can download the price list from hardwarezone.com there.You can choose the shop and download the price list. owh...thanks for da link ray.....
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zeipher	Nov 20 2007, 03:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #304
Casual Junior Member 330 posts Joined: Dec 2006	old school p4 rocks will be watching tv series, anime and movies more than gaming on the p4 anyway... except for some occasional dota game once in a while
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pengster	Nov 20 2007, 03:31 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #305
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(sang_karim @ Nov 20 2007, 02:39 PM) 12.74V aa ... i thought that tolerence is plus minus 5% rite? which means for 12V rail should be around 12.6V - 11.4V ... maybe the reading not so accurate like Irangan said ... well, strong 12V rail u got there ... no doubt bout it .. yeah i just read that it was supposed to be +-5% oh well,everest aint that accurate anyway.lol. btw,just got my MX2
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herojack41	Nov 20 2007, 03:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #306
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	paiseh...give some comment Duo Core E4500 2.2ghz rm420 Asus P5k SE rm365 CoolerMaster Hyper UC rm140 x2 Corsair PC5400 DDR2 1GB RM75+rm75=150 WD1600JS 160GB SATA 3GB 8MB rm175 HEC 400W (24Pins, 2 SATA) rm220 Asus 8400GS 256MB DDR2 rm200 DVD Rom rm70 17'' L1753S A 2000:1 5ms - rm585 keyboard rm20 mouse rm25 speaker??duno yet all cost rm2370 any idea how to reduce da cost?? This post has been edited by herojack41: Nov 20 2007, 03:58 PM
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pengster	Nov 20 2007, 04:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #307
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	do you really need the DVDROM,keyboard and mouse?you could use your current ones and save some cash.unless of course you plan to keep your older rig la p/s. after changing to the OP650 i was able to oc my 6800GS to 503mhz core clock whereas last time i was only able to get till 475mhz only
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herojack41	Nov 20 2007, 04:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #308
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(pengster @ Nov 20 2007, 04:02 PM) do you really need the DVDROM,keyboard and mouse?you could use your current ones and save some cash.unless of course you plan to keep your older rig la p/s. after changing to the OP650 i was able to oc my 6800GS to 503mhz core clock whereas last time i was only able to get till 475mhz only da mouse and keyboard actually is i buy 1.....cause argue with my brother....i buy and use,now is sharing....should i take it off??if take off de this comp no keyboard and mouse later he like frog quack quack quack .i think i should take it off This post has been edited by herojack41: Nov 20 2007, 04:08 PM
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pengster	Nov 20 2007, 04:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #309
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	take it off la and make him buy his own set of keyboard and mouse but so evil la.haha. just tried the CSS video stress test i got an average of 54FPS at 503/1336 with my 6800GS lowest was about 20FPS+ and highest 70FPS+.
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TSraymond5105	Nov 20 2007, 04:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #310
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE QUOTE(herojack41 @ Nov 20 2007, 03:54 PM) paiseh...give some comment Duo Core E4500 2.2ghz rm420 Asus P5k SE rm365 CoolerMaster Hyper UC rm140 x2 Corsair PC5400 DDR2 1GB RM75+rm75=150 WD1600JS 160GB SATA 3GB 8MB rm175 HEC 400W (24Pins, 2 SATA) rm220 Asus 8400GS 256MB DDR2 rm200 DVD Rom rm70 17'' L1753S A 2000:1 5ms - rm585 keyboard rm20 mouse rm25 speaker??duno yet all cost rm2370 any idea how to reduce da cost?? You can choose E21x0 series proc to reduce your cost.
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homonculus	Nov 20 2007, 04:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #311
Getting Started Junior Member 95 posts Joined: Jul 2005	[quote=raymond5105,Nov 20 2007, 04:53 PM] [/quote] You can choose E21x0 series proc to reduce your cost. [/quote] why not choose amd one? slightly reduce price
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HMMaster	Nov 20 2007, 05:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #312
10K Club Moderator 10,308 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(herojack41 @ Nov 20 2007, 03:54 PM) paiseh...give some comment Duo Core E4500 2.2ghz rm420 Asus P5k SE rm365 CoolerMaster Hyper UC rm140 x2 Corsair PC5400 DDR2 1GB RM75+rm75=150 WD1600JS 160GB SATA 3GB 8MB rm175 HEC 400W (24Pins, 2 SATA) rm220 Asus 8400GS 256MB DDR2 rm200 DVD Rom rm70 17'' L1753S A 2000:1 5ms - rm585 keyboard rm20 mouse rm25 speaker??duno yet all cost rm2370 any idea how to reduce da cost?? use stock HSF Use CRT Use non-optical mouse (ball type)
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herojack41	Nov 20 2007, 06:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #313
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE take it off la and make him buy his own set of keyboard and mouse� but so evil la.haha. just tried the CSS video stress test i got an average of 54FPS at 503/1336 with my 6800GS� lowest was about 20FPS+ and highest 70FPS+. im sure take off...when i still remember he scold me $%^&( QUOTE You can choose E21x0 series proc to reduce your cost. lol...overclock kar? QUOTE use stock HSF Use CRT Use non-optical mouse (ball type) ball mouse wan also tiada hahaha.....about da CPU cooler....i also duno how its look like when i type in...haha cause i choose it as cheap 1 @kabu finnaly i know how to remove da intel cooler and i put some thermal paste de....temperature seems like drop 1 celcius only This post has been edited by herojack41*: Nov 20 2007, 06:42 PM
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kabukiawie	Nov 20 2007, 08:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #314
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@herojack good try. i think maybe is your airflow in casing not good. the hot air from hfs didnt get out and cold air failed get in. have you feel the air near the hfs?? ever try to touch the sink with your finger?? if it really hot then mean its too hot already. but if cold or just warm, you should reinstall it again as the heat from cpu cant transfer to HFS. how much thermal paste you put?? put too much or too little will have bad effect. i normally put the quantity of a rice of thermal paste. yes, SEBIJI BERAS of AC5. for other type of thermal maybe need the quantity a bit more than that. try to lap it flat on cpu surface. hahaha....found the guide. have you ever use the google.com?? very powerful tool to solve almost all your problems. check this out, guite how to apply thermal grease to your 478 cpu http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/274/8 This post has been edited by kabukiawie: Nov 20 2007, 08:15 PM
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TSraymond5105	Nov 20 2007, 08:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #315
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(herojack41 @ Nov 20 2007, 06:35 PM) im sure take off...when i still remember he scold me $%^&*( lol...overclock kar? ball mouse wan also tiada hahaha.....about da CPU cooler....i also duno how its look like when i type in...haha cause i choose it as cheap 1 @kabu finnaly i know how to remove da intel cooler and i put some thermal paste de....temperature seems like drop 1 celcius only What happen to you?You mena pengster scolded you before? If using E21x0,can go to o/c,i read a lot of reviews.THese type of proc are gem,very easy to o/c to 3GHz.
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pengster	Nov 20 2007, 09:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #316
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	wah no lah he means his bro will scold him he take the keyboard and mouse away.not me edit : i just got myself a tube of MX2 and i've applied it on my proc and GPU.just wondering if it requires any break in period?cause my GPU temp has shot up to 60c This post has been edited by pengster: Nov 20 2007, 09:47 PM
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TSraymond5105	Nov 20 2007, 09:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #317
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(pengster @ Nov 20 2007, 09:46 PM) wah no lah he means his bro will scold him he take the keyboard and mouse away.not me edit : i just got myself a tube of MX2 and i've applied it on my proc and GPU.just wondering if it requires any break in period?cause my GPU temp has shot up to 60c Haha,i was confusing when he was saying that. misunderstand already. This post has been edited by raymond5105: Nov 20 2007, 09:48 PM
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herojack41	Nov 20 2007, 10:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #318
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 20 2007, 08:10 PM) @herojack good try. i think maybe is your airflow in casing not good. the hot air from hfs didnt get out and cold air failed get in. have you feel the air near the hfs?? ever try to touch the sink with your finger?? if it really hot then mean its too hot already. but if cold or just warm, you should reinstall it again as the heat from cpu cant transfer to HFS. how much thermal paste you put?? put too much or too little will have bad effect. i normally put the quantity of a rice of thermal paste. yes, SEBIJI BERAS of AC5. for other type of thermal maybe need the quantity a bit more than that. try to lap it flat on cpu surface. hahaha....found the guide. have you ever use the google.com?? very powerful tool to solve almost all your problems. check this out, guite how to apply thermal grease to your 478 cpu http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/274/8 holy #$%^&( i sapu whole interface before i sapu....that thermal paste comes with da hsf already got a piece of chewing gum with is covered whole interface 1 wor.....ahhhhh i din clean da interface QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Nov 20 2007, 08:37 PM) � What happen to you?You mena pengster scolded you before? � If using E21x0,can go to o/c,i read a lot of reviews.THese type of proc are gem,very easy to o/c to 3GHz. nope....my $%^& brother.... QUOTE(pengster @ Nov 20 2007, 09:46 PM) wah no lah he means his bro will scold him he take the keyboard and mouse away.not me edit : i just got myself a tube of MX2 and i've applied it on my proc and GPU.just wondering if it requires any break in period?cause my GPU temp has shot up to 60c now i no need scare his $hit anymore...once i got da new rig i sure take it off,because its my money Added on November 20, 2007, 10:01 pmbtw.....i buy that thermal paste really not worth....can use once only...and satu cost rm5 .he din sell that got alot punya This post has been edited by herojack41: Nov 20 2007, 10:03 PM
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fylon	Nov 20 2007, 10:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #319
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Wah.. Just back from beach and the thread become 2 page advance.. Not bad.. Spirit burning high! @kabukiawie Yea. Currently having MX-2 at my store. But not much.. Few stick only. Not much ppl know about AS product.. Kch ppl here all got blinded by CM liao.. @HMMaster Yup. Agreed with u. But anyways, it just not enough power for gaming. Other then that, i think P4 can still handle other task well. Things such like surfing, chatting or documentation doesnt drain much resources. By then HTPC was a good choice. Edmin gonna make his HTPC with P4 system. @herojack41 Emm.. Actually the question about ur new rigs costing should be asked in Hardware Q&A! Here is just for P4.. Not for dark side. As for how to apply thermal grease, refer to to kabu's post. Some advise around, apply to little will burnt ur cpu, apply too much will also burnt ur cpu. So becareful.
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herojack41	Nov 20 2007, 10:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #320
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 20 2007, 10:17 PM) Wah.. Just back from beach and the thread become 2 page advance.. Not bad.. Spirit burning high! @kabukiawie Yea. Currently having MX-2 at my store. But not much.. Few stick only. Not much ppl know about AS product.. Kch ppl here all got blinded by CM liao.. @HMMaster Yup. Agreed with u. But anyways, it just not enough power for gaming. Other then that, i think P4 can still handle other task well. Things such like surfing, chatting or documentation doesnt drain much resources. By then HTPC was a good choice. Edmin gonna make his HTPC with P4 system. @herojack41 Emm.. Actually the question about ur new rigs costing should be asked in Hardware Q&A! Here is just for P4.. Not for dark side. As for how to apply thermal grease, refer to to kabu's post. Some advise around, apply to little will burnt ur cpu, apply too much will also burnt ur cpu. So becareful. i sapu da whole interface .but hor before that when changing da new cooler it come with whole chewing gum and covered whole interface de.....
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fylon	Nov 20 2007, 10:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #321
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	That is thermal paste. Not grease. Thermal grease is something like semi liquid. Just like cream type. Well.. The size of a rice is more then enough for a processor. Normally a tube of thermal grease (depend on size) can use for 10-40 pc. But anyways, it still depend.
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herojack41	Nov 20 2007, 10:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #322
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	okay...its thermal grease...den how???
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fylon	Nov 20 2007, 10:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #323
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Then? If u wanna use it, just the size of a piece of rice will do for ur processor already. Did u read the post that kabu linked? Its a useful link, if ur the 1st time and duno how to apply.
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herojack41	Nov 20 2007, 10:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #324
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 20 2007, 10:41 PM) Then? If u wanna use it, just the size of a piece of rice will do for ur processor already. Did u read the post that kabu linked? Its a useful link, if ur the 1st time and duno how to apply. da worse thing is....after i put it into da processor den only saw his post
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pengster	Nov 20 2007, 10:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #325
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	phew.i applied the MX2 wrongly on my GPU thats why it shot up to 66c i put the layer too thin and now after reapplying then temp went down to 44c 4c lower then when using Ceramique but my cpu temp drop by 2c only. lol
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fylon	Nov 20 2007, 10:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #326
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@herojack41 If i were u, i will take it off again and reapply. As is danger if too much thermal grease is applied. Why? Because if the layer too thick it will make the heat transfer process become slow. Thus, temperature wil shot up high. Not good for long time, proc will burnt. @Pengster Ehehe.. Ur using the stock heatsink for ur 68GS? Mine were 60-67'c range. Idle is around 63'c, once gaming will heat 67'c. Ofcause will teh huge stock heatsink. Lazy to change to my Zalman cooler.
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herojack41	Nov 20 2007, 10:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #327
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 20 2007, 10:53 PM) @herojack41 If i were u, i will take it off again and reapply. As is danger if too much thermal grease is applied. Why? Because if the layer too thick it will make the heat transfer process become slow. Thus, temperature wil shot up high. Not good for long time, proc will burnt. @Pengster Ehehe.. Ur using the stock heatsink for ur 68GS? Mine were 60-67'c range. Idle is around 63'c, once gaming will heat 67'c. Ofcause will teh huge stock heatsink. Lazy to change to my Zalman cooler. i was suspecting da new free edition bitdefender making my comp load heavier then before.... while playing game or surfing...any1 encounter this bitdefender problem before??? fylon....i try to take it off in next few day....cause...tomoro i going to help my fathers at da matawang muzium kantin da temperature is around 60 now...izzit da thermal grease caused this?? da thermal grease can use once only....got 1 stick for me and its so goddamn expensive rm5 per stick.... This post has been edited by herojack41: Nov 20 2007, 11:01 PM
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fylon	Nov 20 2007, 11:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #328
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Yeap. Maybe.. Even with stock hsf, my proc will never got beyond 55'c on full load. Change a reapply the thermal grease will helps reduce the heat. Bro, RM5 per stick? Mine near per RM50 per tube.
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kabukiawie	Nov 20 2007, 11:27 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #329
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon haha...mine 5gram ac5 last time cost rm25 le. i ask my friend help buy when he traveling at KL. for 2+ years still got 20% left. wahaha.....dont worry la. jimat jimat use it wont expired 1. kuching ppl dont play oc 1. only handful are extreme ocer. i believe till now the pc that sold from your shop all running at stock 1. any customer that buy the highend stuffs to oc?? i can bet with you that the customers that bought C2Q that sold 3 in 3 months didnt use to oc. just the $ is more. wahaha..... @herojack listen to senior fylon. better reapply the thermal grease. 1 stick rm5 is quite costly. have you read the guide i gave you in my previous post?? i use that method to apply mine. works well. This post has been edited by kabukiawie: Nov 20 2007, 11:34 PM
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fylon	Nov 20 2007, 11:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #330
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Kabu Haha.. Got! But rarely happened. U know what? Most of the user at kch here.. Their C2D rigs all run at E2xx0 series. Gosh! I seldom heard customer wanna find E6 series. Really sweat.. Haha.. By then, got chance grab a MX-2. It performance better then AS5. 3-4'c lower then AS5. And also, the tube is bigger.. Alot more of grease inside. But the price is almost the same in LYN if u count in teh postage. LYN bulk see RM40, +shipping RM5. My place dealer price, RM45 also. Same.. So i grab at local here.
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edministrator	Nov 20 2007, 11:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #331
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 20 2007, 11:46 PM) @Kabu Haha.. Got! But rarely happened. U know what? Most of the user at kch here.. Their C2D rigs all run at E2xx0 series. Gosh! I seldom heard customer wanna find E6 series. Really sweat.. Haha.. By then, got chance grab a MX-2. It performance better then AS5. 3-4'c lower then AS5. And also, the tube is bigger.. Alot more of grease inside. But the price is almost the same in LYN if u count in teh postage. LYN bulk see RM40, +shipping RM5. My place dealer price, RM45 also. Same.. So i grab at local here. Kuching mentality, cheapskate...haha... biasa la, i have observed over the years how majority users purchase their new PC. Need cheap cheap, as long as can use. Not extreme nor high end. Those wanna go hi-end (kononnya), usually will opt for branded PC such as HP and claim they have hi end PC. The adults and teenagers will usually say they wan gaming rig within budget 2-3K (seldom 4-5k), all inclusive with monitor. Then, graphic card usually low - mid end type. Changing CPU hsf? Change GPU hsf? I would say, rarely seeing any who would purchase 3rd parties! But current happenning trend, all buy notebooks... maybe fylon can correct me if i m wrong, since u work in a PC shop... Oh ya, U guys have MX2? maybe will go angkat from u during PC fair, visit u...hehe...then u treat me & kabu minum kopi? wahahhaa.... This post has been edited by edministrator: Nov 20 2007, 11:58 PM
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fylon	Nov 20 2007, 11:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #332
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Edmin Hahaha.. Totally admit what ur words. Well.. Thats what kuching ppl was! 99% Softcore and only 1% hardcore. By then, those hardcore customer come, their request is damn scary type. All their items have to order. Maximus, 8800Ulta, crucial Balista and some other etc. Here is just like, wan cheap then all the way to cheapest. But if high end, then all the way high until scary type. HP? Yup.. Some of their item really high end. HP Black Bird.. P/s: MX-2? Yup. Got but i will be at HP Printer booth la.. Dont think can accessories booth find u what u want. As if i can go out during the fair then no problem go lim teh with both of u. This post has been edited by fylon: Nov 21 2007, 12:00 AM
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zeipher	Nov 21 2007, 12:00 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #333
Casual Junior Member 330 posts Joined: Dec 2006	ms AS5 baru use 2 time only for 1++ year... still got around 70% like that. got mine for only rm20 after apply AS5 really can see the temp drop compare to the default blackie color thermal paste. question. before reapply AS5 or MX2, we need to clean the remaining of the past thermal paste/grease right? just wondering the correct way of removing it.
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fylon	Nov 21 2007, 12:04 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #334
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Yeah. Gotta clean the surface before applying the new grease on. I usually lap it alcohol.. If u got enough cash, can get the thermal grease cleaner from sHawTy. He was doing the bulk for this item. RM25 it hink.
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kabukiawie	Nov 21 2007, 12:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #335
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	wahaha...fylon, maybe i will get the MX2 from you as well since my AC5 is drying. kekeke.....no problem lim teh together. kuching ppl is like that 1 la, if i want to buy also but the E2xxx or E4xxx pair up with a mid end mobo like ds3, then clock kaw kaw. cheapskate ma... makes me think of tomshardware.com on how they oc the E2140 to 3GHz++ using the mid end gigabyte mobo.
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pengster	Nov 21 2007, 01:15 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #336
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 20 2007, 10:53 PM) @herojack41 If i were u, i will take it off again and reapply. As is danger if too much thermal grease is applied. Why? Because if the layer too thick it will make the heat transfer process become slow. Thus, temperature wil shot up high. Not good for long time, proc will burnt. @Pengster Ehehe.. Ur using the stock heatsink for ur 68GS? Mine were 60-67'c range. Idle is around 63'c, once gaming will heat 67'c. Ofcause will teh huge stock heatsink. Lazy to change to my Zalman cooler. yeah using the stock heatsink.a small block of copper at least now with the MX2 the idle temps is around 44c better then last time 48c.
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TSraymond5105	Nov 21 2007, 08:40 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #337
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Hi guys,i tried MX1 on my FX5900,when full load is about 65 defree celcius only using stock heatsink fan.Idle will be around 40+ degree celcius.AS5,MX1 and MX2 are good thermal grease.
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kabukiawie	Nov 21 2007, 08:48 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #338
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	hmm, seems that the mx2 is very promising, i think better get 1 stick from fylon 1st. @fylon please reserve a stick of mx2 for me, i will get from you on the pc fair. kekekeke.....
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herojack41	Nov 21 2007, 04:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #339
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	actually.......if u put in like a najis...and my hsf clam on it...also jadi fat and spread to whole processor de ma.....in my opinion is lidat lor.....
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fylon	Nov 21 2007, 08:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #340
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	What a busy day.. @herojack41 Yea. U can do that as well. It depend on individual actually. But for me, i will lap it flat on the surface of the processor.
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kabukiawie	Nov 21 2007, 09:05 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #341
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	i use the squeeze method. seems good for me, as i read the guide on AC5 official website on how to apply the thermal paste on various cpu. sicket A it uses the lap flat where others like k8 and intel all using hfs to press. @fylon when is the pcfair?? This post has been edited by kabukiawie: Nov 21 2007, 09:16 PM
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fylon	Nov 21 2007, 09:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #342
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Kabu Lol.. The fair? End of this month. 30th, 1th & 2th. Same old place lo..
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kabukiawie	Nov 21 2007, 09:15 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #343
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon ahhaha....okok, i think i will be like last time, go there speed windows shopping and geram all the way going home again. but this time got mission, haha.....get the mx2 from you.
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fylon	Nov 21 2007, 09:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #344
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Lol.. The MX-2 left 2 tube only. But not sure will go sold out before the fair or not. I try reserve it la. What must wait until PC fair? Tomorrow come grab from me la! Haha....
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kabukiawie	Nov 21 2007, 09:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #345
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon you know, end of the month belum sampai. kering la. wahahahaha..... btw, your didnt change the fan for your BT??
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herojack41	Nov 21 2007, 09:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #346
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 21 2007, 08:22 PM) What a busy day.. @herojack41 Yea. U can do that as well. It depend on individual actually. But for me, i will lap it flat on the surface of the processor. da crap thing is....i put already only know this maybe.......few more motnh....but after few more months i maybe got a C2D already
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kabukiawie	Nov 22 2007, 08:50 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #347
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	hey, guys. all going for holidays?? no oc attempt these days?? quite cold this thread recently.
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TSraymond5105	Nov 22 2007, 09:19 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #348
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Yesterday this thread was cold,very few postings only.fylon also busy with games nowadays,i think now he has stopped to tweak or o/c on his system already.
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kabukiawie	Nov 22 2007, 09:31 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #349
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@raymond yalo, very very cold. other users seems quite cold as well, like sang_karim, pengster etc. too bad i have no oc potential already. haiz.....
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zeipher	Nov 22 2007, 10:00 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #350
Casual Junior Member 330 posts Joined: Dec 2006	just check my voltage yesterday... notice that my 12V rail drop to 11.75+V only my akuComel dying ? tonight going back downclock to stock check check sin
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kabukiawie	Nov 22 2007, 10:43 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #351
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	try run at stock then see hows it goes. ofcoz for safety purpose, better change the akucomel psu. fylon have this psu that blow off its cpu and mobo when overclocking last time. better becareful.
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sang_karim	Nov 22 2007, 10:57 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #352
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 22 2007, 10:43 AM) try run at stock then see hows it goes. ofcoz for safety purpose, better change the akucomel psu. fylon have this psu that blow off its cpu and mobo when overclocking last time. better becareful. the one that burn his cpu and mobo is Cooler Master la i think ... the AkuComel one was dead but did not bring the cpu and mobo along ... i think that what was happen as far as i remember la ... yesterday not feeling very well la .. got headache and can't do any work at office ... back at home on my pc and downloading house tv series ... when woke up at 1 a.m saw my pc restarted and hang at post screen at detecting pri...... dunno what happen .. gonna check it back later tonite .. OT .. guys, if u wanna buy casing .. what kind of casing will u search for first ... This post has been edited by sang_karim*: Nov 22 2007, 10:58 AM
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kabukiawie	Nov 22 2007, 11:04 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #353
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	haha....true also, the coolermaster realpower. but i think maybe when the akucomel kaboomed, maybe it already give some damage to mobo, then once change to new psu also die together. pity him. OT:budget is the most important thing la, once set the $$, then list out all casing that within the range then start compare. if no budget limit, get the ah lian or batuperak. edited:typo This post has been edited by kabukiawie: Nov 22 2007, 11:07 AM
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sang_karim	Nov 22 2007, 11:30 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #354
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 22 2007, 11:04 AM) OT:budget is the most important thing la, once set the $$, then list out all casing that within the range then start compare. if no budget limit, get the ah lian or batuperak. OT : aiyo ... for me, i'm not gonna spend to much in a casing .. maybe around RM 200- RM 300 budget ... as for normal cap ayam mid tower can't fit my mobo and psu well , is there any kind of big mod tower casing?
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fylon	Nov 22 2007, 11:30 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #355
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Ray Nah.. As if lo.. I wanna game but cant. Too many work on office. Need to prepare thing for PC fair now. Not much time.. Home then check mail watch abit anime then sleep. No time for OC stuff. Even see the ProStreet icon on the desktop also no mood wanna click on it. @Kabu Yea. I was thinking of that. The AkuComel case had cause some damage on my previous system already. After change a new psu then push again end up south bridge burnt. @Sang Pity u... Same here! Haha.. I wasnt feeling well also. Bad weather.. RM200-300 range? Maybe SifuSejuk brand? I once fall in love with its Centurion 5! Full black version.. This post has been edited by fylon: Nov 22 2007, 11:36 AM
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edministrator	Nov 22 2007, 11:35 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #356
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(sang_karim @ Nov 22 2007, 11:30 AM) OT : aiyo ... for me, i'm not gonna spend to much in a casing .. maybe around RM 200- RM 300 budget ... as for normal cap ayam mid tower can't fit my mobo and psu well , is there any kind of big mod tower casing? RM200-RM300 = CM Stacker 690
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sang_karim	Nov 22 2007, 11:36 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #357
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	Talking about game .. i just wanna try playing Pro Evolution Soccer 8 and download the demo version ... after install, cannot play game .. it's says my gc not support the minimal requirement ... it says some version vertec/verdec .. can't remember ... pity me ...
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edministrator	Nov 22 2007, 11:39 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #358
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(sang_karim @ Nov 22 2007, 11:36 AM) Talking about game .. i just wanna try playing Pro Evolution Soccer 8 and download the demo version ... after install, cannot play game .. it's says my gc not support the minimal requirement ... it says some version vertec/verdec .. can't remember ... pity me ... does not support certain vertex requirement, your ATI 9250 gcard is DX8 compatible, not DX9. check the game requirement 1st.
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sang_karim	Nov 22 2007, 11:39 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #359
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(edministrator @ Nov 22 2007, 11:35 AM) RM200-RM300 = CM Stacker 690 that's the new one from CM rite? kindda look nice too ... Added on November 22, 2007, 11:41 am QUOTE(edministrator @ Nov 22 2007, 11:39 AM) does not support certain vertex requirement, your ATI 9250 gcard is DX8 compatible, not DX9. check the game requirement 1st. oic ... my gc don't support DX9 aaa ... hehe .. i thought it can play any games but the graphic quality is not very good ... i'm so noob bout this gc thing This post has been edited by sang_karim: Nov 22 2007, 11:41 AM
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fylon	Nov 22 2007, 11:58 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #360
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Edmin CM Stacker got that cheap? 690 only RM200-300 range wo.. But anyways, din see any near my place here. @Sang Ehe.. Invest a 73/76GT with DDR3 GRAM sure can satisfy u and it can last another 2 more years for recent gaming.
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edministrator	Nov 22 2007, 12:01 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #361
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 22 2007, 11:58 AM) @Edmin CM Stacker got that cheap? 690 only RM200-300 range wo.. But anyways, din see any near my place here. confirmed.
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fylon	Nov 22 2007, 12:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #362
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Where u saw it? So cheap.. CM Stacker 690!! Change my target.. Act was planning to get Centurion 5, within 290-250. Now got better one.. Wanna change target!
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sang_karim	Nov 22 2007, 12:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #363
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 22 2007, 12:19 PM) Where u saw it? So cheap.. CM Stacker 690!! Change my target.. Act was planning to get Centurion 5, within 290-250. Now got better one.. Wanna change target! oredi check it at modernopc.com .. price at RM 245.00 .. i think i gonna buy tha casing sumday ...
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fylon	Nov 22 2007, 12:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #364
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Sang Haha.. Moderno different ma.. Me and edmin were at kuching here. Since he saw that casing before.. I think local my place here sure got. Just wanna know where he saw that. By then moderno item is cheap. But the shipping cost like a bomb.
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zeipher	Nov 22 2007, 12:47 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #365
Casual Junior Member 330 posts Joined: Dec 2006	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 22 2007, 10:43 AM) try run at stock then see hows it goes. ofcoz for safety purpose, better change the akucomel psu. fylon have this psu that blow off its cpu and mobo when overclocking last time. better becareful. any good psu to recommend? budget about RM150 i guess... coz planning for a lcd this month or so. hopefully my p4 can stay with me for another couple of years since i mostly do my gaming on my console. OT, any nice lcd with hdmi input available that don't cost more than Rm2k? planning for my future <dunno when> ps3
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fylon	Nov 22 2007, 01:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #366
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	RM150 for good PSU? Thats abit hard la.. Pump ur budget high abit. Maybe RM200. For that price, 200 u can get a BatuPerak ST400 PSU. Like what sang is using.. Not bad!
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shinjite	Nov 22 2007, 01:31 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #367
�ŞħĬΩĵΐŦ�� All Stars 19,321 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Klang	If its around the RM150 range, only 350W good 1s u can find. This post has been edited by shinjite: Nov 22 2007, 01:31 PM
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kabukiawie	Nov 22 2007, 01:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #368
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	i agreed with fylon, using BatuPerak ST400 is a nice bet at that price range. @Ed ee....i cant find it in coolermaster website, CM690 got la, mid tower. are you mentioning this 1?? http://www.coolermaster.com/products/produ...cate=17&id=2908
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sang_karim	Nov 22 2007, 01:44 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #369
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	that st400 i saw at bulk cost about RM160.00 .. try to find at garage sales .. also saw a forumer selling it but dunno if still available .. Added on November 22, 2007, 1:45 pm QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 22 2007, 01:38 PM) i agreed with fylon, using BatuPerak ST400 is a nice bet at that price range. @Ed ee....i cant find it in coolermaster website, CM690 got la, mid tower. are you mentioning this 1?? http://www.coolermaster.com/products/produ...cate=17&id=2908 yeap .. kindda with that casing .... u also interested aaa kabu? This post has been edited by sang_karim: Nov 22 2007, 01:45 PM
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kabukiawie	Nov 22 2007, 01:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #370
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	at rm160 only?? + shipping should be below rm180. that will be nice. i love that case also. but it seems quite heavy. 9.8kg for the case alone. This post has been edited by kabukiawie: Nov 22 2007, 01:50 PM
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sang_karim	Nov 22 2007, 02:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #371
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 22 2007, 01:46 PM) at rm160 only?? + shipping should be below rm180. that will be nice. i love that case also. but it seems quite heavy. 9.8kg for the case alone. so if u want to buy casing, u want to buy a lighter one aaa? pro and cons for heavy casing?
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pengster	Nov 22 2007, 02:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #372
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 22 2007, 09:31 AM) @raymond yalo, very very cold. other users seems quite cold as well, like sang_karim, pengster etc. too bad i have no oc potential already. haiz..... now im trying to max out my graphic card first managed 515/1388 highest i can go so far. QUOTE(edministrator @ Nov 22 2007, 11:35 AM) RM200-RM300 = CM Stacker 690 QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 22 2007, 12:19 PM) Where u saw it? So cheap.. CM Stacker 690!! Change my target.. Act was planning to get Centurion 5, within 290-250. Now got better one.. Wanna change target! the one im using now? i got it for rm240 only.hahaha but edmin,are you sure its called a stacker?the box doesnt says so. lol QUOTE(zeipher @ Nov 22 2007, 12:47 PM) any good psu to recommend? budget about RM150 i guess... coz planning for a lcd this month or so. hopefully my p4 can stay with me for another couple of years since i mostly do my gaming on my console. OT, any nice lcd with hdmi input available that don't cost more than Rm2k? planning for my future <dunno when> ps3 the Silverstone Strider ST400 would be suitable.its around rm160 if im not mistaken at bulk section.
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fylon	Nov 22 2007, 02:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #373
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Sang &Kabu Nice casing.. Hehe! For me, if i grab it i sure will mod the side panel. Its a good case but just too pity dont have side windows. 9.8Kg still ok lo.. I saw the RaidMax case at my place here.. 12kg for a case. P/s: Guys.. I found this fan. >>HERE<< Plan ot use it on my BT. 1.8k rpm on performance mode. Any idea? RM55.. This post has been edited by fylon: Nov 22 2007, 02:53 PM
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pengster	Nov 22 2007, 02:29 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #374
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	its bloody heavy after i fitted in all my stuff.especially so with the OP650. but the thing i like about it is that it has can fit lots and lots of fans edit : @ fylon the zalman fan aint bad.but whats the CFM? and the CM690 comes with a sidepanel,but a small one » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by pengster: Nov 22 2007, 02:37 PM
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sang_karim	Nov 22 2007, 02:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #375
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(pengster @ Nov 22 2007, 02:29 PM) its bloody heavy after i fitted in all my stuff.especially so with the OP650. but the thing i like about it is that it has can fit lots and lots of fans and the CM690 comes with a sidepanel,but a small one nice looking one .. i'm definitely will put the casing in my dream list ...
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edministrator	Nov 22 2007, 02:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #376
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	@everyone, sorry ya, my mistake, not stacker, CM690...
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pengster	Nov 22 2007, 02:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #377
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(sang_karim @ Nov 22 2007, 02:42 PM) nice looking one .. i'm definitely will put the casing in my dream list ... i was actually aiming for the TT Armor Jr.but what the heck,this one was almost 200bucks cheaper. @edmin no probs.all i know is that stacker is those full tower casings which are hugeee
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sang_karim	Nov 22 2007, 02:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #378
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	@pengster how many 120mm fan can fit into that casing .. tell me .. tell me ..
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edministrator	Nov 22 2007, 02:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #379
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(pengster @ Nov 22 2007, 02:46 PM) i was actually aiming for the TT Armor Jr.but what the heck,this one was almost 200bucks cheaper. @edmin no probs.all i know is that stacker is those full tower casings which are hugeee thanx bro. the CM690 is a cool casing, affordable also with cable management ready. plus, the space is huge with PSU on bottom style, which is nice... the best thing is, the pricing, looks and performance. Added on November 22, 2007, 2:56 pm QUOTE(sang_karim @ Nov 22 2007, 02:52 PM) @pengster how many 120mm fan can fit into that casing .. tell me .. tell me .. 7x 120mm. check the specs here: http://www.coolermaster.com/products/produ...cate=17&id=2908 This post has been edited by edministrator: Nov 22 2007, 02:56 PM
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fylon	Nov 22 2007, 02:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #380
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Sang, Pengster Ehehe.. Yea! Same here. Nice looking! Then all the S478 kaki here will be using the same casing as well? As for the fan cfm. Can refer to >>HERE<<. Seems not bad.. Can set the mode to silent or performance. But once i thing i dont like about Zalman fan they control the speed by using Y-Cable. So user only have 2 choicce, either is high or low. Oh yea.. The link i post up is the not LED type. Same product. Just the one im looking for is LED version. P/s: 7x 120mm fan.. That gonna blow the rigs hell way cooll! This post has been edited by fylon: Nov 22 2007, 03:00 PM
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sang_karim	Nov 22 2007, 03:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #381
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(edministrator @ Nov 22 2007, 02:54 PM) thanx bro. the CM690 is a cool casing, affordable also with cable management ready. plus, the space is huge with PSU on bottom style, which is nice... the best thing is, the pricing, looks and performance. Added on November 22, 2007, 2:56 pm 7x 120mm. check the specs here: http://www.coolermaster.com/products/produ...cate=17&id=2908 opps .. forgot to check it there .. thanks admin ... ... 7 x 120mm fan .... i can see mine gonna full with 120mm LED fan ...
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edministrator	Nov 22 2007, 03:07 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #382
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 22 2007, 02:58 PM) @Sang, Pengster Ehehe.. Yea! Same here. Nice looking! Then all the S478 kaki here will be using the same casing as well? As for the fan cfm. Can refer to >>HERE<<. Seems not bad.. Can set the mode to silent or performance. But once i thing i dont like about Zalman fan they control the speed by using Y-Cable. So user only have 2 choicce, either is high or low. Oh yea.. The link i post up is the not LED type. Same product. Just the one im looking for is LED version. P/s: 7x 120mm fan.. That gonna blow the rigs hell way cooll! bro, try see if AVF carry that case in or not, its very new, my friend bought it back from KL. Update me pls, if any news...LOL....
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sang_karim	Nov 22 2007, 03:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #383
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	found at garage sales .. someone selling that casing at RM232.00 .. he's somewhere at puchong ... i wish i had sum money to buy this rite now ...
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pengster	Nov 22 2007, 03:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #384
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(sang_karim @ Nov 22 2007, 02:52 PM) @pengster how many 120mm fan can fit into that casing .. tell me .. tell me .. as what edministrator said : QUOTE(edministrator @ Nov 22 2007, 02:54 PM) thanx bro. the CM690 is a cool casing, affordable also with cable management ready. plus, the space is huge with PSU on bottom style, which is nice... the best thing is, the pricing, looks and performance. Added on November 22, 2007, 2:56 pm 7x 120mm. check the specs here: http://www.coolermaster.com/products/produ...cate=17&id=2908 haha it can fit 2x120mm on top,1x120mm bottom,1x120mm rear,1x120mm front,1x120mm side and 1 more 120mm optional at the front gonna get myself some TT Thunderblades and change the stock fans to something more powerful.and add 2 more on top. haha. @fylon the cfm is good at performance mode man but kinda hard to find it right?
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fylon	Nov 22 2007, 03:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #385
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@edmin Sure.. Will check it out 2mrw once my purchaser is back. Hehe.. If cheap then sure will grab.. Hope can get the type will side windows. Even the CM Centurion5 also have 2 type. With & without side panel one.
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zeipher	Nov 22 2007, 03:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #386
Casual Junior Member 330 posts Joined: Dec 2006	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 22 2007, 01:19 PM) RM150 for good PSU? Thats abit hard la.. Pump ur budget high abit. Maybe RM200. For that price, 200 u can get a BatuPerak ST400 PSU. Like what sang is using.. Not bad! time to lepak at bulk/garage section found batuPerak ST400 @rm170 and acbel E2 470W @around rm170 also... which is better? in terms of stability and for o/c. i know the batuPerak's is a quality psu but not so sure bout the acbel's.
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fylon	Nov 22 2007, 03:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #387
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Pensger HEhehe.. Not bad! I was having it on my side right now. All three color.. Red, blue & green. Not bad.. Reserved one up 1st. Wanna see any other shop throw price during pc fair or not. Else will just grab the reserved one. Added on November 22, 2007, 3:30 pm@zeipher Acbel not bad also. Ray was using it.. He is owning the 430W type if im not mistaken. PSU choosing? Anyways.. Roughly things below is what u need to consider: 1. The power efficiency (how many %) 2. 12v rail (for good PSU, usually will have minimum 2) 3. Price Vs Watt (see worth of not.. No point to get a 300W for 250. ) 4. Do research for ur dream PSU before u buy. This post has been edited by fylon: Nov 22 2007, 03:30 PM
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edministrator	Nov 22 2007, 03:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #388
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 22 2007, 03:20 PM) @edmin Sure.. Will check it out 2mrw once my purchaser is back. Hehe.. If cheap then sure will grab.. Hope can get the type will side windows. Even the CM Centurion5 also have 2 type. With & without side panel one. check the price for both...muahaha...and PM me...
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pengster	Nov 22 2007, 03:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #389
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(zeipher @ Nov 22 2007, 03:22 PM) time to lepak at bulk/garage section found batuPerak ST400 @rm170 and acbel E2 470W @around rm170 also... which is better? in terms of stability and for o/c. i know the batuPerak's is a quality psu but not so sure bout the acbel's. i'd go for the ST400.but its up to you basically.i just trust Silverstone more like what fylon said below,check all the stuff he listed down and also check out reviews. QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 22 2007, 03:22 PM) @Pensger HEhehe.. Not bad! I was having it on my side right now. All three color.. Red, blue & green. Not bad.. Reserved one up 1st. Wanna see any other shop throw price during pc fair or not. Else will just grab the reserved one. Added on November 22, 2007, 3:30 pm@zeipher Acbel not bad also. Ray was using it.. He is owning the 430W type if im not mistaken. PSU choosing? Anyways.. Roughly things below is what u need to consider: 1. The power efficiency (how many %) 2. 12v rail (for good PSU, usually will have minimum 2) 3. Price Vs Watt (see worth of not.. No point to get a 300W for 250. ) 4. Do research for ur dream PSU before u buy. how much for one?you've got me tempted.
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fylon	Nov 22 2007, 03:47 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #390
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Pengster U mean the Zalman 12cm fan? U were from West Msia what.. Sure be can get cheaper price then me. I can hook around RM60 for the fan.
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shinjite	Nov 22 2007, 04:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #391
�ŞħĬΩĵΐŦ�� All Stars 19,321 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Klang	last time I checked, Acbel's efficiency on load is impressive one of the highest if not the highest too
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herojack41	Nov 22 2007, 08:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #392
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	@sang gonna blow your pc away???
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sang_karim	Nov 22 2007, 08:31 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #393
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(herojack41 @ Nov 22 2007, 08:21 PM) @sang gonna blow your pc away??? not blow la .. wanna get proper house for my hardware ... but not in a hurry la ... just take a peep at some lovely casing around ..
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edministrator	Nov 22 2007, 08:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #394
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(shinjite @ Nov 22 2007, 04:09 PM) last time I checked, Acbel's efficiency on load is impressive one of the highest if not the highest too acbel, reputatable PSU manufacturer, very reliable. Added on November 22, 2007, 8:42 pm QUOTE(sang_karim @ Nov 22 2007, 08:31 PM) not blow la .. wanna get proper house for my hardware ... but not in a hurry la ... just take a peep at some lovely casing around .. cepat la beli rumah CM690 baru, abang sang... baru la selesa rig s478, bagi dia rock & sexy sikit.. This post has been edited by edministrator: Nov 22 2007, 08:42 PM
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fylon	Nov 22 2007, 08:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #395
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Haha.. Gosh.. I guess there will some some 690 owner coming up next after this. Seems many of the user here were aim for that casing. @Edmin & Kabu Guys.. Sorry! Got bad news for u two. MX-2 habis stock.. Last two tube also gone even i keep it in a hard find spot. Lucky i grab it earlier. Gotta see the AVF got new stock coming in or not. Else, u guys try hunt at pc fair.
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sang_karim	Nov 22 2007, 08:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #396
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(edministrator @ Nov 22 2007, 08:40 PM) cepat la beli rumah CM690 baru, abang sang... baru la selesa rig s478, bagi dia rock & sexy sikit.. ... if the money is like picking leaf from a tree .. of coz i will buy by tomorrow ... ... to buy a psu oredi have to wait almost 6 month .. maybe have to wait same period for casing too la dude ... Added on November 22, 2007, 8:59 pm QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 22 2007, 08:54 PM) Haha.. Gosh.. I guess there will some some 690 owner coming up next after this. Seems many of the user here were aim for that casing. i thinks it's the hotest casing from CM this year ... oredi see people asking for price at garage sales ... This post has been edited by sang_karim: Nov 22 2007, 08:59 PM
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kabukiawie	Nov 22 2007, 10:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #397
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon aiyo...... nevermind la, maybe try our luck at pcfair there. hmm..... me really dry, but cant wait you guys getting that great casing and want to get the review from you guys.
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herojack41	Nov 22 2007, 10:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #398
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	guys....i google goole also cant found a guide that can apply thermal grease for my nvidia card.... my gpu normally load of idle is at 45 celcius now keep rising....kinda scare its 50 celcius now
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pengster	Nov 22 2007, 10:55 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #399
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 22 2007, 03:47 PM) @Pengster U mean the Zalman 12cm fan? U were from West Msia what.. Sure be can get cheaper price then me. I can hook around RM60 for the fan. wah thats way over my budget for a 12cm fan imagine if i were to buy 3 of those haha looks like im the first one in this thread to hook myself up with a CM690.affordable yet good.i like. QUOTE(herojack41 @ Nov 22 2007, 10:48 PM) guys....i google goole also cant found a guide that can apply thermal grease for my nvidia card.... my gpu normally load of idle is at 45 celcius now keep rising....kinda scare its 50 celcius now there's a few ways to apply TIM on your GPU.i use the credit card method where i use a plastic card to apply an even layer on top of the GPU.i also follow Arctic Cooling's way to tint the heatsink with TIM before applying. a simple google search gave me this : http://www.softhardware.net/guides/hardware/raatp.php and http://www.techpowerup.com/printarticle.php?id=134
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herojack41	Nov 22 2007, 11:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #400
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	my 1 its nvidia 6200 A-LE got a small fan de Added on November 22, 2007, 11:07 pmerk.... i mean graphic card This post has been edited by herojack41: Nov 22 2007, 11:07 PM
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fylon	Nov 23 2007, 12:00 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #401
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Kabu Haha.. Yup! Sorry yea! But the pc fair is round at the corner. U can try ur luck over there. @Sang Yup.. Guess soon will have somemore kaki here using the 690 case. Pengster is leading.. @Pengster Yea.. Performance fan always expensive. I asked AllnGap before, he own one 110 cfm 12cm fan. Tri blade type.. Guess how much? RM75 then he wanna let go. Hell yea.. 12cm with 110cfm.. @herojack41 Its the same alright? Method is still the like how u apply the thermal grease for ur cpu. Nothing much different. Just follow the guide that pengster linked. This post has been edited by fylon: Nov 23 2007, 12:01 AM
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pengster	Nov 23 2007, 12:40 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #402
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	@fylon those Delta FFBs?haha i have one too.but an 80mm x 35mm one 8cm only but pushes about 80cfm.noisy as hell.haha i even saw AllnGap selling some 200cfm 12cm fans.crazy.
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zeipher	Nov 23 2007, 12:48 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #403
Casual Junior Member 330 posts Joined: Dec 2006	kinda in dilemma here on choosing my next psu... decided to topup my budget to RM200. with my budget can get AcBel E2 Power 510 for ngam ngam RM200 or SilverStone ST400 for RM 169... both price according to how much they quote in the trade zone forum la. wanna ask weather the AcBel's is true power or not and how to check if it is true power ? and before this i thought buying psu is a simple task
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blonely	Nov 23 2007, 02:37 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #404
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	@kabu dun scare me...cm psu no good ar? im using the extreme power 430W. ok de mah? i scare my rig will say bye bye to me ler.. @sang im using 9250 also...it support DX8 in its specification sheet la... but after update to latest driver(though latest is 2006 de) and the DX9 driver i think can play gua... i can play NFS carbon.. (not sure like this will do for your game or not. guys..correct me if i'm wrong ) @fylon Centurion 5 that expensive? i grab it not over rm200 ler, with side panel 1. if not mistaken about 160+ only... @ray using dial up...searching parts for my rig alone make me so geram with the loading liao.. but luckily all gathered.. will bec campus this sat...will hang around in this thread more often... 690 really nice ler...so many fan can be fit....but if no filter i scare inside will full of dust then have to clean it every week..
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edministrator	Nov 23 2007, 07:32 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #405
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(blonely @ Nov 23 2007, 02:37 AM) @sang im using 9250 also...it support DX8 in its specification sheet la... but after update to latest driver(though latest is 2006 de) and the DX9 driver i think can play gua... i can play NFS carbon.. (not sure like this will do for your game or not. guys..correct me if i'm wrong ) As I have in my previous posts, Radeon 9250 does not have proper hardware support for NFS prostreet. The game requires minimum pixel shader 2.0 support while DX8.1 cards only support up to pixel shader 1.4. It is NOT graphics card driver issue.
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edministrator	Nov 23 2007, 07:36 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #406
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(blonely @ Nov 23 2007, 02:37 AM) @kabu dun scare me...cm psu no good ar? im using the extreme power 430W. ok de mah? i scare my rig will say bye bye to me ler..� Let me rephrase kabu's statement. What he means is that CM psu is ok, depending on the models. for Extreme Power range, they are not true power, yet just like any other normal PSUs power ratings (max load). iGReen and Real Power product range offers better build/component and are true power, but of course, more expensive. Depending on your rig's power requirement, extreme power psu might already fullfill your needs. This post has been edited by edministrator: Nov 23 2007, 07:37 AM
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edministrator	Nov 23 2007, 07:39 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #407
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(zeipher @ Nov 23 2007, 12:48 AM) kinda in dilemma here on choosing my next psu... decided to topup my budget to RM200. with my budget can get AcBel E2 Power 510 for ngam ngam RM200 or SilverStone ST400 for RM 169... both price according to how much they quote in the trade zone forum la. wanna ask weather the AcBel's is true power or not and how to check if it is true power ? and before this i thought buying psu is a simple task anyone of those PSU are good choice. you can't go wrong.
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TSraymond5105	Nov 23 2007, 08:43 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #408
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(herojack41 @ Nov 22 2007, 11:06 PM) my 1 its nvidia 6200 A-LE got a small fan de Added on November 22, 2007, 11:07 pmerk.... i mean graphic card Your 6200 can unlock extra pipelines to 6600? You all so hardcore to get a fan for the heatsink....until a few pages also not yet finish searching....
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kabukiawie	Nov 23 2007, 08:54 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #409
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@blonely like Edmin said, not your psu not good. just have to becareful as the CM extreme power series are non-realpower, just the max load. normal or mild oc wont be having much problem. but it go for extreme oc, better get a better psu. better check your voltage before jump in a conclusion. keep an eye on flunctuated 12v or other. if keep jumping up and down very frequently, then mean the current in your system is not stable. as long as the voltage is +-5% within the stock voltage its consider quite ok. ofcoz check the how the voltage respond when load and idle.
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sang_karim	Nov 23 2007, 09:07 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #410
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	@blonely dude ... how ur new mobo? now can oc kaw2 la ...
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TSraymond5105	Nov 23 2007, 09:16 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #411
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(sang_karim @ Nov 23 2007, 09:07 AM) @blonely dude ... how ur new mobo? now can oc kaw2 la ... What mobo has he changed?
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sang_karim	Nov 23 2007, 09:29 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #412
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Nov 23 2007, 09:16 AM) What mobo has he changed? u dunno aaa ... check it HERE
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TSraymond5105	Nov 23 2007, 10:56 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #413
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(sang_karim @ Nov 23 2007, 09:29 AM) u dunno aaa ... check it HERE It's one of the legendary mobo.Nice man...when is he going to show off here?
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fylon	Nov 23 2007, 11:01 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #414
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Pengster Yup.. Those Delta's fan! Damn scary in noise but the performance is helly good! Haha.. Well.. I think i will just grab the zalman 80cfm type. That will be enough for me. Even now the normal 45+- cfm type can keep my proc @ 40+ range. Guess with the 80cfm then i can take it below 39'c. @blonely CM products is one of the branded & high quality stuff. But just they do categorized their item. Good and normal type. Extreme Power is enough juice for normal usage. As if wanna go for extreme OC. Better get a true / real power type. PSU like GigaByte Odin PRO or GT, CoolerMaster iGreen, RealPower Series, SilverStone Zues & Strider series. All these are high end and perform well. Of cause, without budget of 350 above, dun put it on ur list. I got my iGreen 500W for 38x. P/s: The RM350 price is for those PSU which contain 350W & above power. @Ray Haha.. Good fan give good performance. That why wanna look for a good fan. Imagine a 200cfm 12cm on my BT.. OMG! That good be monster cooling. By then blonely is carrying a new mobo. P4P800.. This post has been edited by fylon: Nov 23 2007, 11:03 AM
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kabukiawie	Nov 23 2007, 11:50 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #415
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@blonely bro, why diam diam didnt update us?? p4p800 is a nice mobo. we are expecting something from you now.. hehehehe.. ..... but before that, better get a true power psu. you got the same mobo as Edmin's. how much you bought it?? @fylon silverstone fm123 seems a nice gem to grab. 104cfm at 40db should be quite nice. it come with a fan controller. seems sweet enough for me. http://www.dvhardware.net/review121_silverstone_fm123.html
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fylon	Nov 23 2007, 01:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #416
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	104cfm!!! Nice fan.. But well.. Local here hard to get! Haiz..
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TSraymond5105	Nov 23 2007, 02:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #417
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 23 2007, 11:01 AM) @Pengster Yup.. Those Delta's fan! Damn scary in noise but the performance is helly good! Haha.. Well.. I think i will just grab the zalman 80cfm type. That will be enough for me. Even now the normal 45+- cfm type can keep my proc @ 40+ range. Guess with the 80cfm then i can take it below 39'c. @blonely CM products is one of the branded & high quality stuff. But just they do categorized their item. Good and normal type. Extreme Power is enough juice for normal usage. As if wanna go for extreme OC. Better get a true / real power type. PSU like GigaByte Odin PRO or GT, CoolerMaster iGreen, RealPower Series, SilverStone Zues & Strider series. All these are high end and perform well. Of cause, without budget of 350 above, dun put it on ur list. I got my iGreen 500W for 38x. P/s: The RM350 price is for those PSU which contain 350W & above power. @Ray Haha.. Good fan give good performance. That why wanna look for a good fan. Imagine a 200cfm 12cm on my BT.. OMG! That good be monster cooling. By then blonely is carrying a new mobo. P4P800.. 200cfm fan i think you will be having a night mare...The sound is too loud already.... Meanwhile,i'm waiting on blonely's mobo to show up.
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fylon	Nov 23 2007, 02:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #418
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Ray Haha.. Yea! 200cfm 21cm fan.. I think cicak wanna go in also hard.. All been blow out..: P By then, where is blonely?
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TSraymond5105	Nov 23 2007, 02:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #419
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon,i guess he is busy with his new mobo now.
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pengster	Nov 23 2007, 02:55 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #420
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	@fylon and raymond yeah only crazy people would buy that kind of fan.either that or they cant seem to be bothered by the outrageous noise it produces i cant even stand my Delta FFB which is producing almost 60dba already. hmm.i need to get a more powerful 9cm fan for my heatsink.the one im using now is pushing less than 40cfm.
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blonely	Nov 23 2007, 03:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #421
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	i havent go bec campus..and also wait siong to bec campus...the proc and cooler are with him.. i grab it with rm150..desperate to get the board since i will COD my board this sunday..haha... not diam diam...just havent setup so mah havent update here lo.. this is the parts i gather HIS x1650xt iceq turbo 512mb ddr3 asus p4p800 tuniq tower 120 P4 northwood 3.0ghz HT (from siong) wonder my psu hv enuf juice for all these... ohoh..then have to budget for psu as well... dry aldi....
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Deerc	Nov 23 2007, 04:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #422
~ KeV ~ Senior Member 762 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: ~ ipOh mAli ~	May i ask sum thing ? how much psu watt is consider enuff? i am a normal pc user. How about OCing? i gt a noob p4 2.4a proc.
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sang_karim	Nov 23 2007, 04:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #423
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(Deerc @ Nov 23 2007, 04:02 PM) May i ask sum thing ? how much psu watt is consider enuff? i am a normal pc user. How about OCing? i gt a noob p4 2.4a proc. dude .. u can google for psu calculator .. it's can help u to count how much power u needed for u hardwre roughly ... try to check it out ..
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fylon	Nov 23 2007, 05:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #424
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Sang Get the 200cfm 12cm fan.. Even cicak wanna go also hard.. Will be blown out! Hahah! @blonely Building a better rigs now? Nice setup there. @Deerc Agreed with Sang's word. U can do that online actually.. Roughly u will know how much power u need lo. Otherwise, just hamtam a 500W TruePower / RealPower PSU. That 1 sure guarantee enough!
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kabukiawie	Nov 23 2007, 05:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #425
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@Deerc welcome. recommended 400w+, preferred true power psu. if you are into hardcore overclocking, get 500w like abang fylon.
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blonely	Nov 23 2007, 06:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #426
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	@fylon ya..building better rig...is this nice? :brows: but i think wont be hardcore oc since my ram not a high performance ram...will find where will be the wall....
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kabukiawie	Nov 23 2007, 06:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #427
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@blonely depends la, if your cpu is ocable, running at 5:4 also quite fast. Eg, like your cpu able to run at 270fsb, your ram only running at 216MHz(i believe your ram can easily handle that speed). my friend, 270*15 = 4GHz le....
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blonely	Nov 23 2007, 07:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #428
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	@kabu haha....wanna try 1:1 first...aiks...hand itchy aldi.. but need wait till sunday nite...
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shinjite	Nov 23 2007, 07:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #429
�ŞħĬΩĵΐŦ�� All Stars 19,321 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Klang	Blonely, if u wanna test test how far ur rams can go first then go to your CPU then only find the optimal solution. Normally thats how I do it. Just to give ya some advice /off topic/ Those who are in Klang or nearby area or to those who are planning to visit Klang can drop by to Klang's own Centro Mall for FREE popcorns courtesy of DiGi Specialised Store on the 25th of this month (Sunday). All are welcome
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blonely	Nov 23 2007, 07:15 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #430
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	@shinjite erm....what you mean by go to cpu 1st?
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shinjite	Nov 23 2007, 07:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #431
�ŞħĬΩĵΐŦ�� All Stars 19,321 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Klang	what I mean is if you are planning to OC, test and see how far your RAMs can go first then followup by your CPU. After that, find the optimal solution between the 2. It will take some time....but this is overclocking
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kabukiawie	Nov 23 2007, 08:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #432
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@blonely i agree with shinjite. the main goal of oc is to get the most from what you have. so fint the highest cpu speed and highest ram speed. compare the different. unless you get the high performance ram like fylon or sang_karim having. 1:1 ofcoz can draw the most from the system. but if cant get high, like shinjite said, find another solution. @shinjite you work for DiGi?? too bad i have to swim over you there. if not sure go there get free popcorn.
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overclockalbert	Nov 23 2007, 09:11 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #433
Regular Senior Member 1,058 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Penang , Malaysia	crazy S478 post, V5 few days already 22 page. long live S478!!!!!!!!!!!!! Added on November 23, 2007, 9:14 pm QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 23 2007, 06:06 PM) @Sang Get the 200cfm 12cm fan.. Even cicak wanna go also hard.. Will be blown out! Hahah! @blonely Building a better rigs now? Nice setup there. @Deerc Agreed with Sang's word. U can do that online actually.. Roughly u will know how much power u need lo. Otherwise, just hamtam a 500W TruePower / RealPower PSU. That 1 sure guarantee enough! anyone wants SUNON 120mm 4.8W fan? i have afew and ready to let go. it's high CFM makes me wanna scream along. those interested can PM me. i'll try to upload some picture of it. This post has been edited by overclockalbert: Nov 23 2007, 09:14 PM
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pengster	Nov 23 2007, 09:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #434
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(Deerc @ Nov 23 2007, 04:02 PM) May i ask sum thing ? how much psu watt is consider enuff? i am a normal pc user. How about OCing? i gt a noob p4 2.4a proc. its not only about the number of watts a PSU has.have to see whether its a pure power PSU or not,and the rails.if you're gonna stick to the P4 rig awhile and not into hardcore OC,a solid 400w PSU would be fine.
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fylon	Nov 23 2007, 10:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #435
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@overclockalbert Yup! S478 is kicking ass right now. 5days can hit 22pages! Sounds not bad.. Near 500 post already. Ehehe.. Albert! Letting go ur monsta fan? Whats the cfm? 100 abve? Nways, i was looking for something below 80cfm to pair with my BT! @blonely What type of ram are u going to use for ur new rigs? Maybe u state it down, we can help u analyze abit?
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zeipher	Nov 23 2007, 10:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #436
Casual Junior Member 330 posts Joined: Dec 2006	old school still rocking hard ~! 100+ cfm fan? the noise is no no but the air flow is yes yes btw, is using 2 diff manufacturer ram will limit our ram o/c ability?
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kabukiawie	Nov 23 2007, 11:01 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #437
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@pengster hahaha...you are right. actually now you can get a water cooling and get a big casing with 5 x 120mm case fan. your op650 seems too strong. jk jk. i am envy you actually, wakakakaka..... XD
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pengster	Nov 23 2007, 11:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #438
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	haha i wont go for water cooling anytime soon.expensive and a hassle especially when i dont know what im doing. fans i will get them soon.still got alot of places left for the 12cm fans.haha i got the OP650 just in preparation for the Penryn or C2D rig.
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shinjite	Nov 23 2007, 11:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #439
�ŞħĬΩĵΐŦ�� All Stars 19,321 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Klang	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 23 2007, 08:32 PM) @blonely i agree with shinjite. the main goal of oc is to get the most from what you have. so fint the highest cpu speed and highest ram speed. compare the different. unless you get the high performance ram like fylon or sang_karim having. 1:1 ofcoz can draw the most from the system. but if cant get high, like shinjite said, find another solution. @shinjite you work for DiGi?? too bad i have to swim over you there. if not sure go there get free popcorn. More like a dealer for DiGi only
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overclockalbert	Nov 24 2007, 03:05 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #440
Regular Senior Member 1,058 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Penang , Malaysia	QUOTE(pengster @ Nov 24 2007, 12:19 AM) haha i wont go for water cooling anytime soon.expensive and a hassle especially when i dont know what im doing. fans i will get them soon.still got alot of places left for the 12cm fans.haha i got the OP650 just in preparation for the Penryn or C2D rig. bro , interested with Sunon fan 120mm? got total 5pcs with me now. used for few month only. i'll upload it soon at garage sale. so 1st priority to S478 owner
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kabukiawie	Nov 24 2007, 10:07 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #441
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	is the sunon very loud?? huhuhu.....fylon, your high cfm monster is on albert's hand. add a fan controller will be sweet. adjust at will ma. maybe you can get 60+-cfm at maybe 5V-7V?
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fylon	Nov 24 2007, 10:45 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #442
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Albert Haha.. Waiting for the pictures! Does the fan with fan controller? @Kabu Yup.. As if the fan come with fan controller then it should be no problem for me. As i was looking for something below 40db and have 70-80cfm. That will do already. By then the BatuPerak FM123 that u shown me in previous post, i foud it on garage sales. But too bad.. Pricy! RM65 without postage. Add 10 for postage.
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blonely	Nov 24 2007, 11:21 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #443
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	@fylon stilll stick to the A data value ram..2x512... havent got budget to change that yet.. my power supply is rated efficiency is >70%.... mayb its still not enuf?
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fylon	Nov 24 2007, 12:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #444
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	70% Efficiency? Thats kinda good already actually, almost same as my previous CM RealPower 450W type. My current iGreen is rated @ 85%> Efficiency.. By then, if better go get a high efficiency psu. More stable.
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pengster	Nov 24 2007, 12:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #445
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	QUOTE(overclockalbert @ Nov 24 2007, 03:05 AM) bro , interested with Sunon fan 120mm? got total 5pcs with me now. used for few month only. i'll upload it soon at garage sale. so 1st priority to S478 owner lol how powerful? dont think i'll be interested.now im looking for a 9cm one.thanks anyway
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kabukiawie	Nov 24 2007, 01:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #446
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@fylon the noctua NF-S12 120mm fan also not bad actually. 1 of the best cfm/noice. 25dbA @ 63cfm is very sweet. last time i think irangan got bulk on that. but the price is almost the same as BatuPerak 1. http://www.silentpcreview.com/article695-page4.html#noctua
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blonely	Nov 24 2007, 06:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #447
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	@fylon now my 12V output reading is 12.4V @kabu but the thermaltake iFlash can make it 17dBA @64cfm.... more nice~~
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fylon	Nov 24 2007, 06:27 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #448
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@blonely Sounds good. U changed new psu already? By then, watch out when u do OC. Well.. OC just like u speeding up car by pumping more petrol. Same concept with OC if u wanna hit higher speed, vcore pumping is a need. So becareful. @Kabu Thanks for ur info.. That fan sounds good.. Wanna see whether garage sales have this fan or not. PC Fair.. Time to hunt for some new fan also.
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kingmax	Nov 24 2007, 07:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #449
Enthusiast Senior Member 751 posts Joined: Oct 2006	Hi , previously I had ask about Asrock P4i65G for Pentium 4 prescott but If I buy the motherboard , how do I assemble it ? I know nothing about assembling a pc hardware.I am not sure whether I should post here or at 'hardware question/answer/ or Casings and Modifications section ' I read through the manual but I don't seem to understand which one I should plug in especially casing fan , power on off , temp , jumper and others. Please help out , thank you.
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overclockalbert	Nov 24 2007, 08:47 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #450
Regular Senior Member 1,058 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Penang , Malaysia	Hi all, the Sunon fan model & spec : Sunon KD1212PTB1-6A Product Description 120x120x25 Ball Bearing Fan 12v - 0.38 amp - 4.8 watts - 3100 rpm - 90 cfm - 44.5 db currently left only 3pcs. 1pcs will be trade with other forumer for cooler, so now still left 2pcs. This post has been edited by overclockalbert: Nov 24 2007, 08:50 PM
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kabukiawie	Nov 24 2007, 10:07 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #451
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@blonely seems cool, but its too fancy for me. i think i will love for it if there is no text display. just my 2 cents. check this out about the iFlash. i dont know how about other user think about this. i cant accept it. hahaha...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S02QaIlTCzo @kingmax try google for it. actually there are quite a few guides available, step by step. btw, your mobo manual also having the information on how to install ra, cpu etc. have to do some homework before you start the job. This post has been edited by kabukiawie: Nov 24 2007, 10:33 PM
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kingmax	Nov 24 2007, 11:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #452
Enthusiast Senior Member 751 posts Joined: Oct 2006	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 24 2007, 10:07 PM) @blonely seems cool, but its too fancy for me. i think i will love for it if there is no text display. just my 2 cents. check this out about the iFlash. i dont know how about other user think about this. i cant accept it. hahaha...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S02QaIlTCzo @kingmax try google for it. actually there are quite a few guides available, step by step. btw, your mobo manual also having the information on how to install ra, cpu etc. have to do some homework before you start the job. Can't able to find any guide for the (pwr , reset , temp , connecter ) help for asrock 478.Can't find any related 478 motherboard image guide for the connector. Anyone know any guide website with picture ?
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sang_karim	Nov 24 2007, 11:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #453
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(kingmax @ Nov 24 2007, 11:12 PM) Can't able to find any guide for the (pwr , reset , temp , connecter ) help for asrock 478.Can't find any related 478 motherboard image guide for the connector. Anyone know any guide website with picture ? dude .. check out the user manual for the mobo HERE ... hope it's help
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deale30	Nov 24 2007, 11:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #454
Casual Junior Member 491 posts Joined: Oct 2007	add me in 2.4C @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Kingston ddr400 256mb*2 \| Sapphire ATI Radeon 9250
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sang_karim	Nov 24 2007, 11:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #455
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	QUOTE(deale30 @ Nov 24 2007, 11:28 PM) add me in 2.4C @ stock \| Asus P4P800-X \| Kingston ddr400 256mb*2 \| Sapphire ATI Radeon 9250 welcome to da old school club dude ... old school tech still rockin'
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kabukiawie	Nov 24 2007, 11:51 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #456
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@deale30 welcome. you have the same mobo as mine. how old is your rig??
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fylon	Nov 24 2007, 11:55 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #457
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Lol... Baru settle down my daily task and sit down read the forum. Woh~ Nothing much got update recently for OC stuff. Mostly we are discussing about pc accessories! @deale30 Welcome to the club. Make this thread as ur rigs home. @Albert Wah.. Ur fan make me scream! 12mm fan with 3.1k rpm? Thats scary.. Cant imagine the noise! 91cfm? Not bad..
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kabukiawie	Nov 25 2007, 12:15 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #458
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	most of us have reach to the wall already. now we are waiting blonely to gear up. i am waiting for his show. popcorn ready
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blonely	Nov 25 2007, 02:18 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #459
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	@fylon no change...still that 1 cm extreme 430W haiz...busy with the p4p800 mobo whole nite d...cant load into post screen.. dunno wat happen at all.. T^T
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overclockalbert	Nov 25 2007, 05:17 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #460
Regular Senior Member 1,058 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Penang , Malaysia	QUOTE(blonely @ Nov 25 2007, 03:18 AM) @fylon no change...still that 1 cm extreme 430W haiz...busy with the p4p800 mobo whole nite d...cant load into post screen.. dunno wat happen at all.. T^T what ram do u used? try to boot up with only 1 stick, try with every ram slot to boot up. if your mobo ok, then u should be able to boot. clear up your CMOS eveytime u change the ram slot, just to eliminate the possible that your cmos still memorise them. need every details of your voltage setting , vcore, vdimm vagp and the ram timing, if possible
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fylon	Nov 25 2007, 09:33 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #461
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@blonely What happened to ur mobo? Anyways, try boot ur post without any ram, see whether the mobo will beep or not. If beep thats mean ur mobo still stand the chance of surviving. After that, try clear ur cmos by take out the cmos battery for few sec and put it back. Than try albert's way. Boot ur mobo with 1 stick of ram and see how.
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kabukiawie	Nov 25 2007, 09:50 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #462
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	just push my cpu to 220fsb 1:1. now using it for normal usage. will stress it tonight. hope can stable. :-[ @blonely any beeping sound once you power on?? or just the psu and cpu fan spinning only?? or nothing happen at all? try the methods from albert and fylon. i also will do the same when i face this problem.
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fylon	Nov 25 2007, 10:22 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #463
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Kabu Ehehe... Going back to OC line? 1:1 Ratio with value ram? Not bad already..
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kabukiawie	Nov 25 2007, 10:30 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #464
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	haha....nothing to do ma, so just push a bit lo. yup, use my value ram. wahahaha......cheapskate oc is like that.
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edministrator	Nov 25 2007, 12:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #465
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 25 2007, 10:30 AM) haha....nothing to do ma, so just push a bit lo. yup, use my value ram. wahahaha......cheapskate oc is like that. this is the 'biasa' stuff for "old man-poor man club"
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fylon	Nov 25 2007, 01:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #466
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Edmin.. U're not poor.. Ur x-fi extreme & Dell UltraSharp 24' tell me that ur not poor! By then, this thread seems kinda low recently. Seems like everyone is busy!
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deale30	Nov 25 2007, 01:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #467
Casual Junior Member 491 posts Joined: Oct 2007	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 24 2007, 11:51 PM) @deale30 welcome. you have the same mobo as mine. how old is your rig?? bought in 2004i thnk.. wanna ask.. this mobo can player PCI GC tak??
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fylon	Nov 25 2007, 02:07 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #468
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	What do u mean player PCI GC? Anyways, most of the p4 system is running AGP GC. Unless ur using rare mobo which support DDR2 & PCI-E GC. As mentioned, is rare, so is hardly to get. P/s: If im not mistaken ur using P4P800-X right? Then the answer is NO for pci GC and DDR2 ram. This post has been edited by fylon: Nov 25 2007, 02:08 PM
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deale30	Nov 25 2007, 02:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #469
Casual Junior Member 491 posts Joined: Oct 2007	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 25 2007, 02:07 PM) What do u mean player PCI GC? Anyways, most of the p4 system is running AGP GC. Unless ur using rare mobo which support DDR2 & PCI-E GC. As mentioned, is rare, so is hardly to get. P/s: If im not mistaken ur using P4P800-X right? Then the answer is NO for pci GC and DDR2 ram. thank frens.. still wait money from heaven (bonos) to upgrade my rig
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fylon	Nov 25 2007, 03:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #470
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	LOL! Buy anyways, ur rigs still can OC abit. Like what kabu does. 10% OC from stock not bad already...
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TSraymond5105	Nov 25 2007, 04:04 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #471
Newbie Senior Member 5,341 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 25 2007, 01:41 PM) Edmin.. U're not poor.. Ur x-fi extreme & Dell UltraSharp 24' tell me that ur not poor! By then, this thread seems kinda low recently. Seems like everyone is busy! Wah,using X-Fi sound card.I heard this card is quite good but messy with a lot of profiles right? Dell 24" inches is big for me,i'm just using 17" inches LCD only. Recently nomore kaki in o/cing?The thread is groqing slow for a few days already.blonely's mobo not yet reach his hand?We are waiting you with popcorn already.
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edministrator	Nov 25 2007, 04:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #472
Regular Senior Member 1,940 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Soviet Sarawak	QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Nov 25 2007, 04:04 PM) Wah,using X-Fi sound card.I heard this card is quite good but messy with a lot of profiles right? Dell 24" inches is big for me,i'm just using 17" inches LCD only.] profiles? nope. it is simple, just need time to tune it to match your speakers. I always stick to one mode, Entertainment mode instead of Gaming and Audio Creation mode. 24 incher not for Desktop usage bro, solely for movies, dramas, TV channels, PS2, etc. Running as secondary monitor for this old s478 rig to act as HTPC. A sample of my setup (posted in previous s478 thread, lol): http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Atta...=post&id=298539 QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 25 2007, 01:41 PM) Edmin.. U're not poor.. Ur x-fi extreme & Dell UltraSharp 24' tell me that ur not poor! That one blood and sweat money bro. Real rich is migration to darkside or able to move to AM2 liao... This post has been edited by edministrator: Nov 25 2007, 04:20 PM
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herojack41	Nov 25 2007, 04:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #473
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	holy cow.....how come my 12+V drop till so geng....guys....any other software to see da correct voltage??
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fylon	Nov 25 2007, 04:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #474
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Edmin Lol.. That card cost alot right? My place here a new card cost around 4xx.. @herojack41 New PSU? Else is time for a new PSU..
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pengster	Nov 25 2007, 05:03 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #475
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	Wah nice setup edmin love that 24" Dell. 11.6v is still alright aint it?but abit on the scary side la.
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shinjite	Nov 25 2007, 06:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #476
�ŞħĬΩĵΐŦ�� All Stars 19,321 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Klang	QUOTE(herojack41 @ Nov 25 2007, 04:33 PM) holy cow.....how come my 12+V drop till so geng....guys....any other software to see da correct voltage?? No problems lowest is 11.4V -5% And you're using P4P800 SE, on load it will flunctuate badly so its normal A droop mod is needed to stabilise your rails This post has been edited by shinjite: Nov 25 2007, 06:28 PM
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blonely	Nov 25 2007, 06:44 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #477
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	@fylon try aldi...if no ram then beeping.... then i try slot 1 ram into each ram slot... ok no prob...then i try remove the battery and also slot the jumper to clear the cmos d...same... try 2 ati gc also no respond... then i read in other forum say there is quote that in the p4p800 manual some ati card cannot support.... so i try with a nvidia card now...still same.. Added on November 25, 2007, 7:03 pm@albert i havent do anything yet on the mobo... just assemble it and try boot up... the mobo can be on but the post screen din see,.... This post has been edited by blonely: Nov 25 2007, 07:03 PM
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fylon	Nov 25 2007, 07:05 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #478
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@shinjite P4P800SE will have fluctuation during on load? I never meet that kinda of problem with my mobo. Im using this mobo as well. By then, i think PSU also one of the factor who cause the fluctuate of voltage. @blonely Mine state clearly about ur condition? Did u try to boot ur system with 1 stick on ram? How was it? Can load into windows? Or pass the POST screen? Oh yea! I got a fren who using the same mobo as u, he did face the problem of incompatible GC with that P4P800SE.
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blonely	Nov 25 2007, 07:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #479
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	@fylon sure dun mind...as long as can fixed the prob... things was like this...my sis help me COD at mid valley..then bring bec to me on fri... last nite after dinner i start remove my asrock mobo and assemble my p4p800.. after i done everything, i press on and the psu is on, cpu fan is on, gc fan on.. but the monitor show nth. normally the led of monitor will stay on if there is anything show. then will blinking if standby..the led still show the monitor is standby after i on the com for a while... then i remove all things, left the proc, 1 stick ram and gc.. try on but still the same.. then i remove the board and try assemble outside the casing. still the proc, ram and gc. still same. then i remove ram. on, beeping. put bec the ram, still the same.. then try clear cmos, boot again.. still same... try with x1650xt, 9250 and mx4000 gc...same response.... try 512 a data ram and 512 kingston ram. stil same... these are wat had i tried... but all cant even see the post screen..
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fylon	Nov 25 2007, 08:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #480
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Ur situation is weird. Since the mobo will beep without ram, from the case the mobo still can consider is alive. As i know, that P4P800 is having problem with some old ATi card. My fren was having problem with 9550. Do u have spare proc with u? Since u still having sold it, did u try to boot the mobo with different board? In this case, it might the cpu is faulty but mobo is alive. Ur AsRock still on ur hand? Assemble ur new proc to ur AsRock board and try boot see it function or not. Well.. I lets conclude the solution that i can give through ur case. 1. Take ur current proc (newly bought) and plug onto ur old asrock board and test, see whether it can be boot up or not. 2. Take ur old proc, (2.8E i assum) and plug onto ur new mobo and boot. See whats happening. 3. Do u have any other GC? Such like FX5200 or FX5500 type? Try those old nVidia GC on ur new mobo. Since it has problem with ATI card.
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blonely	Nov 25 2007, 08:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #481
Getting Started Junior Member 212 posts Joined: May 2007 From: PJ	aldi tried the 2.8E proc. can boot on the asrock board..same setup on asrock board can run but move to the p4p800 cant see the post screen. havent try the 3ghz proc. tried with the nvidia mx4000 aldi. cant..
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herojack41	Nov 25 2007, 09:27 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #482
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(shinjite @ Nov 25 2007, 06:28 PM) No problems lowest is 11.4V -5% And you're using P4P800 SE, on load it will flunctuate badly so its normal A droop mod is needed to stabilise your rails shinjite.....when i see da voltage is not on load lor @fylon izzit pure power supply it pump da exact power to da hardware??cause when i call my technical he said...my psu can tahan This post has been edited by herojack41: Nov 25 2007, 09:30 PM
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fylon	Nov 25 2007, 10:04 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #483
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@blonely Just do what i told u to in the previous post. It might be a faulty proc u grab since it cannot boot the system up. But anyways, its still up to u wanna try or not. For ur case, it seems like is proc faulty since the mobo still beeping when ram is not plug in. I asked u to try ur 2.8E on the P4P800 not ur asrock board. @herojack41 There is nothing as pump full power. It still depend on the power station near ur area whether it supply stable current to ur house or not. PurePower PSU is a type a psu which operate supply stable current as it can to ur system, (well it still depend on the PSU pcb structure. The circuit that it used) but u still need a Voltage Regulator in order to stable down the AC current before it transmitted into ur PSU for converting. Anyways, it depend on u. If ur listen to ur personal technician then u stick to ur current psu than. As for me, i would suggest go for a better psu. Atleast a 500W PurePower. PSU is a long term investment.
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herojack41	Nov 25 2007, 10:05 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #484
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	QUOTE(fylon @ Nov 25 2007, 10:04 PM) @blonely Just do what i told u to in the previous post. It might be a faulty proc u grab since it cannot boot the system up. But anyways, its still up to u wanna try or not. For ur case, it seems like is proc faulty since the mobo still beeping when ram is not plug in. I asked u to try ur 2.8E on the P4P800 not ur asrock board. @herojack41 There is nothing as pump full power. It still depend on the power station near ur area whether it supply stable current to ur house or not. PurePower PSU is a type a psu which operate supply stable current as it can to ur system, (well it still depend on the PSU pcb structure. The circuit that it used) but u still need a Voltage Regulator in order to stable down the AC current before it transmitted into ur PSU for converting. Anyways, it depend on u. If ur listen to ur personal technician then u stick to ur current psu than. As for me, i would suggest go for a better psu. Atleast a 500W PurePower. PSU is a long term investment. owh hell no....i think its because i using three way plug....and in da three way plug still got another 1
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pengster	Nov 25 2007, 10:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #485
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	PSU = long term investment,i totally agree on that.thats why i spent alot on the OP so that it can last me at least 3 years. even the FMA before this lasted me 2 years albeit with some hiccups.
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fylon	Nov 25 2007, 10:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #486
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@herojack41 Well.. Its up to u. There are many reason causing voltage drop. But as for a real true performance psu, it atleast will keep the voltage on a safety range. Eg, my iGreen, even on idle mode it still keep my 12v rail at 12.35v and never goes below 12v. Since u state that ur psu is a true power type, i wander why the voltage will drop so much. Even +-5% but i dont think a true power psu will drop that much on idle mode. @pengster Ehehe! How much had u spent for ur OP? By then, 620W is more then enough already la! Haha! Did u PSU comes with dual PCI-E 6pin power connector? Or urs can support quad..
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herojack41	Nov 25 2007, 10:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #487
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	@fylon my psu comes with....2 sata cable and 6 other cable.....duno wat it named...i think u know that...and dual fan for power supply coolingthose cable are packed nice nice. as previus post u write got those rubber thing packed 1. alamak...forgot to add my hdd into siggy 1 maxtor 80gb 8mbps sata 1 western 80gb 8mbps ide This post has been edited by herojack41: Nov 25 2007, 11:01 PM
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pengster	Nov 25 2007, 11:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #488
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	@fylon got my OP650 for rm635 yeah there's 2x 6pin PCIE and 1x 8pin PCIE2.0 connector.but i doubt i'll be going SLi or Crossfire anytime soon.one 8800GT already almost 1k
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kabukiawie	Nov 25 2007, 11:15 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #489
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@blonely wao....your case very weird. hmm.....you have tried all the ram slot with each ram?? now i start suspecting the psu. you have any other spare psu or ram for testing?? since you have tested the cpu, i dont think is cpu prob. @shinjite running at 11.4v is still consider safe? i know still in the +-5% tolerent. mine right now running low at 11.4v. a bit worry.
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fylon	Nov 25 2007, 11:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #490
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	@Kabu blonely rigs is working fine if he use back his old asrock board. I suspect either is the proc is dead or the mobo is having problem thou. Since his previous mobo can run the system, dont think will be the psu. Yea.. 11.4v for 12v rail i don think is safe. Eventhough is +-5% tolerance, with that rating.. Is hear the edge of danger.
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shinjite	Nov 26 2007, 01:15 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #491
�ŞħĬΩĵΐŦ�� All Stars 19,321 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Klang	QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Nov 25 2007, 11:15 PM) @blonely wao....your case very weird. hmm.....you have tried all the ram slot with each ram?? now i start suspecting the psu. you have any other spare psu or ram for testing?? since you have tested the cpu, i dont think is cpu prob. @shinjite running at 11.4v is still consider safe? i know still in the +-5% tolerent. mine right now running low at 11.4v. a bit worry. not safe with long runnings of course
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kabukiawie	Nov 26 2007, 11:06 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #492
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	i see. hmm....better set to stock better. hahaha..... maybe the bext target upgrade is a better psu. the BatuPerak ST56F seems quite sweet. the price also reasonable. just my wallet dont allow.
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sang_karim	Nov 26 2007, 11:43 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #493
:: sάής ЌάЯΐм :: Senior Member 1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.	@blonely dude .. ur prob solve oredi ka? i also ever this kindda of prob .. usually it's about the ram .. just take it off and slot it back .. if not, try to take off the power cable slot to ur mobo and put it back ... that's wat have happen to me last time la ..
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herojack41	Nov 26 2007, 12:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #494
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	haha....so many problem on my currently this rig.....going build a c2d
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pengster	Nov 26 2007, 01:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #495
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	i used to have an almost similiar problem with blonely's problem.that was when i used the P4P800x and found out that my rams dont like each other but then it works flawlessly on the MSI mobo.
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kabukiawie	Nov 26 2007, 02:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #496
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	so its mobo and ram incompatibility problem?? hmm.....is it asus more picky on ram than MSI?
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herojack41	Nov 26 2007, 02:03 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #497
Master Of Trouble Maker Senior Member 5,697 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: A Place Where God And Master Of TroubleMaker Exist	finnaly i finish reading blonely problem....i have encounter da same problem like cant even bot in window i think is due to da ram different batch or something wrong with it gua..... try put in as single channel
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fylon	Nov 26 2007, 02:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #498
~ The Revival ~ Senior Member 4,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Soviet Sarawak	Well.. Based from what blonely says, he did try with 1 stick on ram which mean single channel. His system still unable to boot up. Is kinda hard to identify whats the problem was. Maybe mobo? Ram? PSU? or Proc.. Each of the compoents stand the change of faulty. But i think ram is the bigger part. Rmb my previous xms? One of the stick were having unknown problem and cause the whole system cannot boot. But once take off the faulty one, thing goes normal. But blonely more weird, maybe both of his ram is not compatible with the mobo. Since both of the ram still unable to boot the system up.
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pengster	Nov 26 2007, 02:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #499
eVoWei™ Senior Member 7,757 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Subang	@kabukiawie Yeah since both my sticks of KVR400 arent from the same batch,the P4P800x just wouldnt boot up with those two sticks running at DC.
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kabukiawie	Nov 26 2007, 03:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #500
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,039 posts Joined: Jan 2003	@pengster your case also weird. hmm.... running at single channel seems fine but once in dual channel, turn gila. i really blank with this issue. @fylon i know its low. when i 1st notice it i was shock. last time the worst is 11.6v but 11.4v is too low. so want to set it back to stock again. i really not suitable for oc already. wahaha....
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