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post Sep 10 2025, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Sep 10 2025, 08:54 AM)
I think the 17 will be sell good , because almost have all the feature pro had with less 1 telephoto lens.
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yes, CP value is damn high. Those who bought iphone 16 will cry. tongue.gif


iPhone 16 Pro → 17 Pro (same $1,099 for 256 GB tier)

Storage: 128 GB dropped, now starts at 256 GB.

Display: Brighter (3,000 nits), anti-reflective coating, tougher Ceramic Shield 2 glass.

Cameras: 48 MP across all lenses, 8× optical zoom, new ProRes RAW / Dual Capture.

Performance: A19 Pro chip + vapor cooling, faster sustained speeds.

Battery: +6 hrs video playback, 50% charge in ~20 min.

Design: New aluminum build, N1 chip with Wi-Fi 7 / BT 6.

Bottom line: 17 Pro adds anti-glare screen tech on top of more storage, brighter display, huge camera and battery gains, and stronger performance — all at the same effective starting price.

Want me to also re-do the Pro Max summary in this same tight format so all three (17, 17 Pro, 17 Pro Max) match?
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post Sep 10 2025, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Sep 10 2025, 08:52 AM)
iPhone 16 Pro → 17 Pro (same $1,099 for 256 GB tier)

Storage: 128 GB dropped, now starts at 256 GB.

Display: Brighter (3,000 nits), tougher Ceramic Shield 2 glass.

Cameras: 48 MP across all lenses, 8× optical zoom, new ProRes RAW / Dual Capture.

Performance: A19 Pro chip + vapor cooling, faster sustained speeds.

Battery: +6 hrs video playback, 50% charge in ~20 min.

Design: New aluminum build, N1 chip with Wi-Fi 7 / BT 6.

Bottom line: 17 Pro packs more storage, brighter display, huge camera and battery gains, plus stronger performance — at the same effective starting price.
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I think this year the vanilla 17 offers the best value - same RM3,999 starting price but you get double the storage and 120hz refresh rate. That itself is a big win already.
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post Sep 10 2025, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(attw @ Sep 10 2025, 08:59 AM)
I think this year the vanilla 17 offers the best value - same RM3,999 starting price but you get double the storage and 120hz refresh rate. That itself is a big win already.
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yes, exactly. not to mention the rest of upgrades too. tongue.gif

also good for first-time iphone users as well.

Imagine during shopee/lazada sales, this price will be further down. tongue.gif which it can even happen in 1 month time or less even.
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post Sep 10 2025, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(cklove96 @ Sep 10 2025, 02:24 AM)
MYS version battery is 2 hours shorter than US version

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They really are squeezing all the remaining free space on the us iphone for battery (hence the no sim slot).
It was like 100mah difference probably?
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post Sep 10 2025, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Sep 10 2025, 09:02 AM)
yes, exactly. not to mention the rest of upgrades too.  tongue.gif

also good for first-time iphone users as well.

Imagine during shopee/lazada sales, this price will be further down.  tongue.gif which it can even happen in 1 month time or less even.
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Ya, also clearly targeted at would be Pixel customers who are rather underwhelmed by the recently launched Pixel 10…

QUOTE(alucard89 @ Sep 10 2025, 09:03 AM)
They really are squeezing all the remaining free space on the us iphone for battery (hence the no sim slot).
It was like 100mah difference probably?
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I’d take a physical sim slot over that extra 100mAh battery capacity (or 2 hours usage as Apple puts it) any day smile.gif
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post Sep 10 2025, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(attw @ Sep 10 2025, 09:07 AM)
Ya, also clearly targeted at would be Pixel customers who are rather underwhelmed by the recently launched Pixel 10…
I’d take a physical sim slot over that extra 100mAh battery capacity (or 2 hours usage as Apple puts it) any day smile.gif
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yeah, with the specs of 17 series now, it is a perfect first iphone for anyone or even ppl from android gang without much compromisations other than the camera advanced features for pro series. tongue.gif

true also. i also like the current physical sim slot that gives flexibility. tongue.gif
but i hope apple can slowly eliminate physical sims for whole world.

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QUOTE(attw @ Sep 10 2025, 09:07 AM)
Ya, also clearly targeted at would be Pixel customers who are rather underwhelmed by the recently launched Pixel 10…
I’d take a physical sim slot over that extra 100mAh battery capacity (or 2 hours usage as Apple puts it) any day smile.gif
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Looks like slightly more, negligible I guess

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post Sep 10 2025, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Sep 10 2025, 08:58 AM)
yes, CP value is damn high. Those who bought iphone 16 will cry.  tongue.gif
iPhone 16 Pro → 17 Pro (same $1,099 for 256 GB tier)

Storage: 128 GB dropped, now starts at 256 GB.

Display: Brighter (3,000 nits), anti-reflective coating, tougher Ceramic Shield 2 glass.

Cameras: 48 MP across all lenses, 8× optical zoom, new ProRes RAW / Dual Capture.

Performance: A19 Pro chip + vapor cooling, faster sustained speeds.

Battery: +6 hrs video playback, 50% charge in ~20 min.

Design: New aluminum build, N1 chip with Wi-Fi 7 / BT 6.

Bottom line: 17 Pro adds anti-glare screen tech on top of more storage, brighter display, huge camera and battery gains, and stronger performance — all at the same effective starting price.

Want me to also re-do the Pro Max summary in this same tight format so all three (17, 17 Pro, 17 Pro Max) match?
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QUOTE(attw @ Sep 10 2025, 08:59 AM)
I think this year the vanilla 17 offers the best value - same RM3,999 starting price but you get double the storage and 120hz refresh rate. That itself is a big win already.
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Yeah super super good value , not to mention wait 11.11 have laz shopee voucher, might hit rm3.5k? Haha
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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Sep 10 2025, 09:21 AM)
Yeah super super good value , not to mention wait 11.11 have laz shopee voucher, might hit rm3.5k? Haha
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certainly. wait a bit longer will be even lower i guess... tongue.gif

iphone 16 got bro got it at rm3.3k with vouchers at shopee in march this year (which is merely 6 months after launched).

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QUOTE(westlife @ Sep 10 2025, 09:09 AM)
yeah, with the specs of 17 series now, it is a perfect first iphone for anyone or even ppl from android gang without much compromisations other than the camera advanced features for pro series.  tongue.gif

true also. i also like the current physical sim slot that gives flexibility.  tongue.gif
but i hope apple can slowly eliminate physical sims for whole world.
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Ya, if you don’t need the “Pro” cameras, you’d be saving quite significantly going for the normal 17 this round and without too much compromise too.

QUOTE(alucard89 @ Sep 10 2025, 09:20 AM)
Looks like slightly more, negligible I guess

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In a way it is significant because it’s the first iPhone with a 5000mAh battery… I’ve been saying for years I wished iPhones had a 5000mAh battery, hahaha laugh.gif

QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Sep 10 2025, 09:21 AM)
Yeah super super good value , not to mention wait 11.11 have laz shopee voucher, might hit rm3.5k? Haha
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I read somewhere Apple is targeting those with iPhones 13 and older to switch to this 17… I think it’s a compelling case for that!
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Now Pro or non-Pro, hmm

256GB now any con on video recording issue beside storage limitation (can be solved by external SSD anyway) such as recording format?

Last time 128GB cannot go higher resolution.
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post Sep 10 2025, 09:59 AM

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only get to know , the iphone air doesnt have speaker on the bottom , only have 1 speaker. So might be a downside if u care about sound quality.
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No more 17 Plus model?
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post Sep 10 2025, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Sep 10 2025, 10:00 AM)
No more 17 Plus model?
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yes no more , they replaced with AIR


Really cant wait to see review on how the 17 Pro Max handle the heat smile.gif

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QUOTE(attw @ Sep 10 2025, 08:59 AM)
I think this year the vanilla 17 offers the best value - same RM3,999 starting price but you get double the storage and 120hz refresh rate. That itself is a big win already.
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The only thing stopping it from being amazing is 8GB ram. If it had 12GB can forget about Pro unless you want the camera.

So… Pro has 4x optical and 8x “croptical”? I am not getting what they trying to confuse me with. Is it a real 8x optical or not?

And yes if I were to buy a Pro I want the eSIM version cause I want the battery. So significant on the pros!
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QUOTE(attw @ Sep 10 2025, 08:59 AM)
I think this year the vanilla 17 offers the best value - same RM3,999 starting price but you get double the storage and 120hz refresh rate. That itself is a big win already.
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QUOTE(westlife @ Sep 10 2025, 09:02 AM)
yes, exactly. not to mention the rest of upgrades too.  tongue.gif

also good for first-time iphone users as well.

Imagine during shopee/lazada sales, this price will be further down.  tongue.gif which it can even happen in 1 month time or less even.
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Haha chun laugh.gif

Now the S25 ultra price dropped even further😄😆💥💥

Best vanilla ever since like iphone 11 rclxms.gif

Still vividly remember ijustine rave the 11 hard hahahaha



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QUOTE(Jason @ Sep 10 2025, 10:03 AM)
The only thing stopping it from being amazing is 8GB ram. If it had 12GB can forget about Pro unless you want the camera.

So… Pro has 4x optical and 8x “croptical”? I am not getting what they trying to confuse me with. Is it a real 8x optical or not?

And yes if I were to buy a Pro I want the eSIM version cause I want the battery. So significant on the pros!
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8gb is far far far far far more enough for iOS seriously especially for non-pro user , dont think non-pro user might see different between 8gb vs 12gb of RAM. Even my shop Old PC stil using 4gb of RAM biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Sep 10 2025, 10:01 AM)
yes no more , they replaced with AIR
Really cant wait to see review on how the 17 Pro Max handle the heat  smile.gif
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They really target 17 for 14 & 15 users.
16 Pro Max users seems like very little incremental upgrade to 17 Pro Max.
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Very good move from Apple. Now even those who buy iPhone < 5 years will also hand itchy want to upgrade since got 120hz and 256gb storage as base model.

Many of these people start working buy iPhone say plan to use until end of life 7-8 years now change tune.

Apple marketing genius.

Edit: Unker also hand itchy, want to buy for ios development. Or maybe 16e.

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QUOTE(attw @ Sep 10 2025, 08:58 AM)
Hahaha… I’m also undecided about Orange or Deep Blue now… thinking if it’s worth not to be an early adopter and wait to see the physical phones first before pulling the trigger.
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Might be worth to wait a while, aside from seeing the real thing, also save quite a lot. I got the 16PM at launch last year, then grabbed another for my wife a few months later and the saving was significant, think its about 1k+, about 3 or 4 months after launch biggrin.gif (+ no waiting time/ all colours avail is a plus bonus)

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