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post Sep 10 2025, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Sep 10 2025, 10:09 AM)
They really target 17 for 14 & 15 users.
16 Pro Max users seems like very little incremental upgrade to 17 Pro Max.
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QUOTE(poooky @ Sep 10 2025, 10:09 AM)
Very good move from Apple. Now even those who buy iPhone < 5 years will also hand itchy want to upgrade since got 120hz and 256gb storage as base model.

Many of these people start working buy iPhone say plan to use until end of life 7-8 years now change tune.

Apple marketing genius.
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yeah , now they need to target new customer with entry level product , just like the new M4 Mac Mini and the Macbook Air M4 , increase storage but reduce price , after Tim Cook take over Apple , damn long time didnt give people a "WORTH" feeling biggrin.gif

Last time when u buying Apple entry level product , feel like u are a pig that kena apple chop head biggrin.gif But now totally worth it.

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QUOTE(dikae @ Sep 10 2025, 10:12 AM)
Might be worth to wait a while, aside from seeing the real thing, also save quite a lot. I got the 16PM at launch last year, then grabbed another for my wife a few months later and the saving was significant, think its about 1k+, about 3 or 4 months after launch biggrin.gif (+ no waiting time/ all colours avail is a plus bonus)
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I got 16PM for 4.5k after voucher 5 months after launch. I think it's worth the wait. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 10 2025, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(poooky @ Sep 10 2025, 10:09 AM)
Very good move from Apple. Now even those who buy iPhone < 5 years will also hand itchy want to upgrade since got 120hz and 256gb storage as base model.

Many of these people start working buy iPhone say plan to use until end of life 7-8 years now change tune.

Apple marketing genius.

Edit: Unker also hand itchy, want to buy for ios development. Or maybe 16e.
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16e is totally not worthy trash now, since 256gb equipvalent is rm3499, while 17 256gb is rm3999 which is only rm500 but the extra u get certainly worth much much much more than the rm500 spent. tongue.gif

QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Sep 10 2025, 10:15 AM)
yeah , now they need to target new customer with entry level product , just like the new M4 Mac Mini and the Macbook Air M4 , increase storage but reduce price , after Tim Cook take over Apple , damn long time didnt give people a "WORTH" feeling  biggrin.gif

Last time when u buying Apple entry level product , feel like u are a pig that kena apple chop head  biggrin.gif  But now totally worth it.
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yes, mac mini m4 is certainly has super super high CP value for anyone who wants to step into MacOS world.

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post Sep 10 2025, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Sep 10 2025, 09:20 AM)
Looks like slightly more, negligible I guess

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iphone air only has eSim version, including China if not mistaken, the info you posted is leak info not accurate?
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post Sep 10 2025, 10:25 AM

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Dont know next iphone 18 will be using silicone carbon battery? China alot of 6.3" phone already with SiC battery that capacity 5500-6500mAh. If it come true , then it will be good pocket size yet powerful battery life with iOS optimization. Then i wont ever looking for bigger phone to make my hand and finger tired biggrin.gif
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post Sep 10 2025, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(neekun @ Sep 10 2025, 06:56 AM)
Undecided between iPhone air and 17 pro max…very likely I will go for 17 pro max because I do not wish to sacrifice camera and battery life for choosing iPhone air though the thin form factor is very nice  tongue.gif

Refer to https://www.apple.com/my/iphone/compare/ for comparing the iPhones.

Now I need to choose which colour, all 3 of them look nice to me leh……. :confused:
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17 Pro Max Orange please. tongue.gif

QUOTE(bem69 @ Sep 10 2025, 07:53 AM)
Ahhh the unused gift card is a bonus. I can get rm4k from my 16pm at TRX. Just wondering only 🤣
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Huh? Why 4k? I will do the same too if TRX accepts higher price but I think it’s the same everywhere.

QUOTE(kmed @ Sep 10 2025, 08:11 AM)
How does trade in work? Do you need backup to your PC before passing the old phone?
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You have 7 days to return the phone after you get the new phone. No need to rush.

QUOTE(vez @ Sep 10 2025, 08:19 AM)
anyone have experience to share trade in with apple store
since last year first time

i plan to buy from apple store and trade in my 16p directly with apple, since i not stay in klang valley, somewhere northern of penisular  sweat.gif

let say if i choose trade in, input all my 16p info and purchase 17p this Friday pre-order
after receiving phone, apple will send me courier box to put my trade in phone inside right? and ship back, and then credit the trade in value to my CC?
*do we need to include box and cable? or just the phone only?

fruitie our lady boss here macam trade in before right hmm.gif
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Ok. Let me explain. I’m the queen of trade-in. laugh.gif
You key in everything when pre-order including choose the date for your old phone pickup. You have 7 days to do it I’m not mistaken. Then, wait for your new phone to arrive. Transfer data to new phone and enjoy! Reset your old phone as well.

When the day of pick up arrives, you will receive a SMS and the courier will contact you. Mine was Pos Malaysia. He brought a box for me and I just passed the phone to him. No need box and cable. Just the phone will do.

Sit back and relax now. Wait for Apple to receive back your phone to inspect the condition etc. and will credit back the money to your credit card.

Last year, RHB and HLB had issues with trade-in credit, Apple already refunded the money but the processor was not able to do it. How did I know? I was one of them. laugh.gif

Sekian, that’s all. Easy peasy.

QUOTE(attw @ Sep 10 2025, 08:58 AM)
I must say I was sure I was gonna get the Orange but now the Deep Blue is speaking to me… laugh.gif I guess if we’re gonna pre-order than no chance to see the actual phones first before deciding.
And every year they tell us the same thing - biggest/best battery life in an iPhone ever. To be honest, I didn’t really feel the big improvement of the battery life on the 16 Pro Max vs my 15 Pro Max…
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Orange la. tongue.gif

No, battery life big difference between 15PM and 16PM. Until today my 16PM is still 100% battery health. laugh.gif

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post Sep 10 2025, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Sep 10 2025, 02:20 AM)
The good news is it’s still RM 5,999 for 256GB 17 Pro Max but the bad news for me is the trade-in value for 16 Pro Max is only 3.5k vs 3.7k last year when I traded in 15 PM.
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Where do you trade in switch or apple store? Do share😁
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post Sep 10 2025, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(NagaK @ Sep 10 2025, 10:28 AM)
Where do you trade in switch or apple store? Do share😁
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Apple directly.
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post Sep 10 2025, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Sep 10 2025, 10:29 AM)
Apple directly.
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can do pure trade-in without buying new iphone also rite?
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QUOTE(westlife @ Sep 10 2025, 10:30 AM)
can do pure trade-in without buying new iphone also rite?
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Yes, you will get a gift card.
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Sep 10 2025, 10:29 AM)
Apple directly.
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Thanks but I'll might hold for upgrade and pull trigger for Watch Ultra 3 so tempting ❤️😂
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QUOTE(NagaK @ Sep 10 2025, 10:33 AM)
Thanks but I'll might hold for upgrade and pull trigger for Watch Ultra 3 so tempting ❤️😂
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I’m using Ultra 2 and it doesn’t attract me that much yet, so I think I won’t be upgrading mine.
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Sep 10 2025, 10:40 AM)
I’m using Ultra 2 and it doesn’t attract me that much yet, so I think I won’t be upgrading mine.
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I haven't used Apple Watch yet so this is first time for me. Or I settle down with 11 series first as I'm newbie
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Sep 10 2025, 10:32 AM)
Yes, you will get a gift card.
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gift card meaning can only be used at apple store?

like that not so good sia. becos dun think i will get the new iphone from apple store, but will try to get from shopee/lazada with discount vouchers. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Sep 10 2025, 09:59 AM)
only get to know , the iphone air doesnt have speaker on the bottom ,  only have 1 speaker. So might be a downside if u care about sound quality.
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Oh really? I didn’t know this coz obviously I haven’t seen the Keynote yet… Will watch tonight…
Non-stereo speakers is a deal breaker for me - even for my midrange Android phones, hahaha…

QUOTE(Jason @ Sep 10 2025, 10:03 AM)
The only thing stopping it from being amazing is 8GB ram. If it had 12GB can forget about Pro unless you want the camera.

So… Pro has 4x optical and 8x “croptical”? I am not getting what they trying to confuse me with. Is it a real 8x optical or not?

And yes if I were to buy a Pro I want the eSIM version cause I want the battery. So significant on the pros!
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I think RAM isn’t a concern for most people on iPhones, haha. But yeah, I think if I had the option I’d probably go eSIM too just to try the 5000mAh battery on an iPhone!

QUOTE(skylinelover @ Sep 10 2025, 10:08 AM)
Haha chun laugh.gif

Now the S25 ultra price dropped even further😄😆💥💥

Best vanilla ever since like iphone 11 rclxms.gif

Still vividly remember ijustine rave the 11 hard hahahaha

In case you totally missed it icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif
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Haha, I remember the iPhone 11 - in fact, my mum still uses one. I think the only downer back then was it had a LCD screen and not an OLED laugh.gif

QUOTE(dikae @ Sep 10 2025, 10:12 AM)
Might be worth to wait a while, aside from seeing the real thing, also save quite a lot. I got the 16PM at launch last year, then grabbed another for my wife a few months later and the saving was significant, think its about 1k+, about 3 or 4 months after launch biggrin.gif (+ no waiting time/ all colours avail is a plus bonus)
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Oh I won’t be waiting coz I have an older 15 Pro Max to trade in - Apple offering up to 3k for it - that’s quite a sweet deal!

QUOTE(fruitie @ Sep 10 2025, 10:26 AM)
No, battery life big difference between 15PM and 16PM. Until today my 16PM is still 100% battery health. laugh.gif
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The battery health, yes, I agree. My 16 Pro Max is on 99% battery health too! smile.gif
I’m just saying in my normal day usage I didn’t feel the 16 Pro Max had significantly better battery life. I usually unplug my phone charger at night (around 11pm or so) at 100% and then go about the next day with average of maybe 5 hours SOT (and maybe 2 hours or so of Apple Music), then when I get back at home and charge the phone, the battery percentage would be around 40% to 50%. It’s quite similar for both my 15 Pro Max and 16 Pro Max - but both were much better than the 14 Pro Max for sure.
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coming from ip12pm, should i opt to upgrade ip16pm or ip17pm?
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Think these are the most awkward user now within 2 years:

1) iPhone 15 - no AI
2) iPhone 16 - 120hz
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 10 2025, 10:56 AM)
coming from ip12pm, should i opt to upgrade ip16pm or ip17pm?
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For sure ip17PM if u have the budget.
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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Sep 10 2025, 10:25 AM)
Dont know next iphone 18 will be using silicone carbon battery? China alot of 6.3" phone already with SiC battery that capacity 5500-6500mAh. If it come true , then it will be good pocket size yet powerful battery life with iOS optimization. Then i wont ever looking for bigger phone to make my hand and finger tired  biggrin.gif
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I dump Samsung just 4 that factor alone😄😆

Fk lithium ion man💥💥

Now i got 1 Chinese as business only phone

Personal flagship i still hmm.gif hmm.gif either Chinese flagship or 17 pro max lithium ion🤭🤭

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QUOTE(NagaK @ Sep 10 2025, 10:42 AM)
I haven't used Apple Watch yet so this is first time for me. Or I settle down with 11 series first as I'm newbie
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Ultra is much bigger than the normal series. So, you can see which one suits you. I guess it is better to discuss in the watches threads.

QUOTE(westlife @ Sep 10 2025, 10:42 AM)
gift card meaning can only be used at apple store?

like that not so good sia. becos dun think i will get the new iphone from apple store, but will try to get from shopee/lazada with discount vouchers.  tongue.gif
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Of course. Same goes to other retailers as well, they want you to spend at their place only.

QUOTE(attw @ Sep 10 2025, 10:52 AM)
The battery health, yes, I agree. My 16 Pro Max is on 99% battery health too! smile.gif
I’m just saying in my normal day usage I didn’t feel the 16 Pro Max had significantly better battery life. I usually unplug my phone charger at night (around 11pm or so) at 100% and then go about the next day with average of maybe 5 hours SOT  (and maybe 2 hours or so of Apple Music), then when I get back at home and charge the phone, the battery percentage would be around 40% to 50%. It’s quite similar for both my 15 Pro Max and 16 Pro Max  - but both were much better than the 14 Pro Max for sure.
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I still get around 8H SOT with 80% charge. hmm.gif

QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 10 2025, 10:56 AM)
coming from ip12pm, should i opt to upgrade ip16pm or ip17pm?
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17 Pro Max for sure, you are in this thread. tongue.gif

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