QUOTE(BenYeeHua @ Sep 30 2025, 11:57 PM)
Yes, agree you at tech point of view, the money customer saved for subs any ISP at lower cost, not just bring them basic access of internet, but also bring them to the evil part of who gonna bear the cost.
And well, it is also them, as hidden cost.
Now they just stuck with most video bitrate around 4Mbps, PCDN getting them ban for uploading anything to cloud etc, even live streamer also get such issues and had to sign up for RM 800 plans for just pure upload without throttling.
Even if PCDN implement well, it can save cost by having mostly local traffic, but nope, all they want is to sell those server/service/content provider expensive quota, and they only dare to ban ISP's customer to "solve" the issues.
(Another reason is they no need to pull a lot of local fiber, this one I am kind of unsure on tech part la, like how many it gonna take to fulfill the requirement for PCDN.)
And not just that, 1 hour ago, I get block again, because I am oversea IP.
https://zh.moegirl.org.cn/Mainpagehttps://img.moegirl.org.cn/common/thumb/f/f...s_2_Treaser.jpg
The orig pic is fine, just thumb over IPv6, lol.
Still, any place has it own network issues la, like TM, 10 years ago, they dare to throttle any ADSL to Google traffic as low as 480kbps, including Google search, and it only solved after fiber online....
That time, the only thing you can hope for YouTube full speed, is you get kick/chosen by Google to connect TM peer server, and DNS give you TM peer IP.

Actually the China internet problem is like this...
The Party talk about being socialist. The telcos are state-owned. You would think they practice what they preach but they are more capitalist than the West.
Before year 2020, the concept of settlement-free peering do not exist. It is all paid IP transit. But China Telecom and China Unicom each owns half the country, so they are both kind of Tier-1 in China and decided they will peer with each other and nobody else as a form of gatekeeping.
The peering between China Telecom and Unicom is themselves designed to be congested, so that businesses who want to reach the whole China must buy IP Transit from all the telcos. Imagine for a second you do online business and must sign up TM, Maxis, CelcomDigi just to do business. Not just typical home or business account. It must be IP Transit.
The amount of money Baidu, Tencent and Jack Ma donated to the Party via this arrangement itself is no joke.
Come year 2020, MIIT mandate all local telco do settlement-free peering with each other as a method to improve accessibility. It is really funny since MIIT is the government, the telcos are also owned by government.
So then they all provides limited peering just to comply, meaning they give you a low port speed. But once your port burst, they refuse to upgrade and instead want you to buy IP Transit.
- or -
They totally cut off your traffic and "blackmail" you into buying IP Transit.
This kind of tactic is doing local China businesses a lot of harm because they don't know when big brother telco will come knocking for more money or your Internet goes out. In a way all these China has cheap and fast Internet is itself a propaganda. Only people in this industry know all their dirty laundries.
By pulling the plug on customer, they gain a lot of things. The customer either stop PCDN, which means the provider must pay up and billed 95th percentile since it is IP Transit, or the customer pay up because their income depends on it.
As you can see, every China telco pull this kind of stunt inside China, to their own local businesses, to their own citizen. What you think they will do to foreign telco?
To me it is the government milking the people. Of course they cannot write about it because everything is censored.
Long story short, the Party want everyone to have Internet just to show the rest of the world how great is China but not use them. Not cross-border, not even inside China itself.