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acbc
post Feb 19 2025, 07:34 PM

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Impossible to win against TNB unless u don't have an account with them in the first place.

So, always get the tenants to register the TNB by themselves. Even so, if the tenants ran away, TNB will require the full payment before reconnecting the supply back.

If not, the property cannot transfer name at the Land Office. TNB will block it until full payment is settled.
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post Feb 19 2025, 07:37 PM

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lol..normal user tak bayar 1 mth, second mth terus kena potong d...but bitcoin miner pulak can accumulate till millions owing pun tak kena potong...
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post Feb 19 2025, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Feb 19 2025, 07:34 PM)
Impossible to win against TNB unless u don't have an account with them in the first place.

So, always get the tenants to register the TNB by themselves. Even so, if the tenants ran away, TNB will require the full payment before reconnecting the supply back.

If not, the property cannot transfer name at the Land Office. TNB will block it until full payment is settled.
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post Feb 19 2025, 07:39 PM

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tnb already had many cases like this and failed to take action to prevent cuz everytime will just bill owner

meaning that they failed to prevent the repetitive mistake and refuse to improve since they lazy to find the culprit and just blame everything to owner

have been practising this and never fail
thus never sked
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post Feb 19 2025, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Feb 19 2025, 07:12 PM)
Or they have already planted tap points in the infra from beginning to allow electricity thefts during build outs.

Developer, TNB contractors and project contractors all got involvement? When the landlord decided to rent out the premise, they straight took opportunity to jump at it?
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Too negative speculation statement and almost will not happen.

Reasons:-

1) No developer so stupid to come out with additional capex to benefit buyers. This additional thing they cannot even bill the buyer.

2) The unit compliance is supervised by the site supervision team reporting to the Engineer and Architect. No stupid Engineer will sign the CCC clearance & risk their practising license got suspended. What benefits the buyer can offer to Engineer to make them risk their practising license being at risk? If not logic, pls throw away the idea.

The risk >>>> reward.

Only idiot Engineer will do this stupid decision.

The theft modification is more likely to happen after the project handover ( developer will be out of the picture), where the buyer instructed their electrician to modify it.

As I explained, for the cable buried underground for Selangor, it is very unlikely to happen, hence you can eliminate this possibility.

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post Feb 19 2025, 07:42 PM

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This case really unfair, the owner goes report to police and TNB but in the end got penalized …

If the owner goes to terminate TNB silently then no problem.

Not to mention TNB open the loophole for people to tap electricity by exposing their cabling. If TNB take better care of their infrastructure and implement prevention and alarm system to track weird usage and straight cut before it bloated to beyond deposit this wont happen …

The rule should protect the innocent and should just forfeit deposit. And TNB shall only be given right to claim up to 3 months … their inaction to identify and stop usage shall deserved punishment …

This post has been edited by p4n6: Feb 19 2025, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(JoLee @ Feb 19 2025, 01:43 PM)
Funny thing with TNB is that if the amount exceeds the deposit collected by them shouldnt it be cut off immediately. Surely every business has credit terms and limit per customer. Sounds fishy.
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Ya vry bad controls
Or mayb got syndicate
Or tnb staff compromised
So many possibility

Gov need to step in overhaul something
This is a leak for tnb too if offer diskaun
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post Feb 19 2025, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Feb 19 2025, 01:32 PM)
With tnb app, there's no reason for LL to get surprises if he checks diligently.
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fraudsters rent the premise and do mining with TNB account registered with 3rd party, I believed they tempered the TNB meter already even u check the apps also no use as the bill is like normal after tempering.
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that's no small amount, and could forced a person to be bankrupt & homeless. If that were to happen to me, i would just kms at that point bruh.
very heartless of TNB.

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This is what happens when 1 company monopoly electricity
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QUOTE(nihility @ Feb 19 2025, 07:23 PM)
Your analogy is valid. If the tapping is from public infrastructure didn’t go into your unit, ask TNB to prove that you are at fault and benefit from the theft. If they can’t provide the proof, the argument stops there.

Your speculation statements post the edit - you need to seek your answer from the other.
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On second thoughts the electrician who did the cable theft before the meter input, is not very smart person. If he is TNB insider, he should know the master meter telemetry will identify the leaks very easily with the excess consumption.
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post Feb 19 2025, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(nihility @ Feb 19 2025, 07:41 PM)
Too negative speculation statement and almost will not happen.

Reasons:-

1) No developer so stupid to come out with additional capex to benefit buyers. This additional thing they cannot even bill the buyer.

2) The unit compliance is supervised by the site supervision team reporting to the Engineer and Architect. No stupid Engineer will sign the CCC clearance & risk their practising license got suspended. What benefits the buyer can offer to Engineer to make them risk their practising license being at risk? If not logic, pls throw away the idea.

The risk >>>> reward.

Only idiot Engineer will do this stupid decision.

The theft modification is more likely to happen after the project handover ( developer will be out of the picture), where the buyer instructed their electrician to modify it.

As I explained, for the cable buried underground for Selangor, it is very unlikely to happen, hence you can eliminate this possibility.
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Buried underground if worst how did the tenant managed to tap the electricity before the meter and stole so much without doing major modifications noticed?

Not unless the taps were already well planned and known. They had the layout design plan where to tap from.
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QUOTE(robotking123 @ Feb 19 2025, 05:33 PM)
Easy just to change tnb name to tenant only, simple things many don't know
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you tak tau now open account is attached to addresss lao meh. they no pay, you also no eletric until settle their bill.
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Gov need to take action fast and amend the law on this. It's gonna affect property investment and many people gonna find it hard to rent later.

There is nothing to stop tnb side to collude with cripto criminal for a big pay off from owner if they want to and the system had just proven this a possible loophole.
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post Feb 19 2025, 08:03 PM

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LOL. thought being a landlord can goyang kaki collect rent only.

wanna kesian but its his own mistake. very hefty one.
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post Feb 19 2025, 08:05 PM

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helang always win

cibai you do business also got credit term and credit limit

tnb just supply electricity unlimited but no need check?

so if tnb rent a premise and do cyto mining then the landlord need to pay tnb?

i propose tnb lease a premise from government, do cyto mining and we the tax payers will pay you for electricity consumed
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QUOTE(mowlous @ Feb 19 2025, 08:00 PM)
Gov need to take action fast and amend the law on this. It's gonna affect property investment and many people gonna find it hard to rent later.

There is nothing to stop tnb side to collude with cripto criminal for a big pay off from owner if they want to and the system had just proven this a possible loophole.
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meh, property investment is a cancer, especially flipping that add zero value to the economy anyway. let them rot.
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post Feb 19 2025, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Feb 19 2025, 06:47 PM)
Yes the smart meters these days can be read daily remotely. If the amount accumulates beyond the deposit credit limit threshold, TNB should already be alarmed.

But you see the problem here lies is that none of the individual meters were recording the stolen electricity.

The theft tapped the stolen electricity supply from the incoming wire before going through the meter.

So who to blame?

Straight accusing the landlord is wrong, if the landlord tempered with the meter that is another story but instead the renting tenant got away free?

That is finding easy way scapegoat to pay for the losses.
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Sad. Madani please help this dood out before giving electricity to gaza…
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post Feb 19 2025, 08:15 PM

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Same case as this 1.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5502135&hl=

LOD RM1.1 millio. Go to court and at the end most probably same outcome as this case, TNB sure win.

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