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 Tnb win against landlord, Tnb win, Flawless victory, fatality

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Akaashi
post Feb 19 2025, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(Najibaik @ Feb 19 2025, 05:50 PM)
this is what happened when u get monopoly

monopoly always the winner
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Sadly that’s the reality
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post Feb 19 2025, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(billyboy @ Feb 19 2025, 05:36 PM)
change meter to tenant name. easy. all online. cool2.gif
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QUOTE(jibpek @ Feb 19 2025, 05:43 PM)
TNB been almost monopoly has the obligation to protect landlord as well.

Name under owner, owner kena

Name under tenant, owner kena

No warning given, cannot set limit, and owner cannot check the usage if the meter name is under tenant.

Kek
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This mean no solution, unless do surprise raid of tenant every month?

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post Feb 19 2025, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Feb 19 2025, 03:24 PM)
Now that TNB wins this case, of course they wiil wait until the bill becomes millions and millions ringkek only take action la.
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bingo
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post Feb 19 2025, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(LonelyHart16 @ Feb 19 2025, 06:19 PM)
Why Malaysia law side with TNB? How is this fair or even legal?

If someone stole my identity to do illegal things, why I am responsible for the damage?

What is this crazy logic? Gomen no care? TNB bribed gomen?
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The scary part is you could go 1 week holiday,

Someone disguise as TNB contractor masuk your house and purposely "modify" your meter without your permission.

Then that person make report to TNB say you curi electric.

Then real TNB come check and say you 10 year curi electric and demand you pay RM100 000.
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post Feb 19 2025, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(king99 @ Feb 19 2025, 06:28 PM)
The scary part is you could go 1 week holiday,

Someone disguise as TNB contractor masuk your house and purposely "modify" your meter without your permission.

Then that person make report to TNB say you curi electric.

Then real TNB come check and say you 10 year curi electric and demand you pay RM100 000.
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Eh? Got kes like this ka? So impossible, laugh.gif
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post Feb 19 2025, 06:30 PM

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Why tnb never sekat
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No wonder TNB engineer so high pay.
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post Feb 19 2025, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(LonelyHart16 @ Feb 19 2025, 06:19 PM)
Why Malaysia law side with TNB? How is this fair or even legal?

If someone stole my identity to do illegal things, why I am responsible for the damage?

What is this crazy logic? Gomen no care? TNB bribed gomen?
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Politicians often take sides with the corporations and the elites who owns the establishments.

That is why the entire world is rigged from top down at least to protect the ones with interests.

This is like if you parked your car in someone's car park owned privately but your car got stolen. Instead of blaming the theft, the owner of the car park gets prosecuted instead of the theft?

Like they say the theft tapped on the wire branch before going through the electric meter, should the owner of the property whose account under the meter is the one guilty?

What is the electricity is tapped at the main trunk wire before the branching into individual homes? Will TNB still pick scapegoats to blame?
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post Feb 19 2025, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(GHBZDK @ Feb 19 2025, 06:30 PM)
Why tnb never sekat
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Yes the smart meters these days can be read daily remotely. If the amount accumulates beyond the deposit credit limit threshold, TNB should already be alarmed.

But you see the problem here lies is that none of the individual meters were recording the stolen electricity.

The theft tapped the stolen electricity supply from the incoming wire before going through the meter.

So who to blame?

Straight accusing the landlord is wrong, if the landlord tempered with the meter that is another story but instead the renting tenant got away free?

That is finding easy way scapegoat to pay for the losses.
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post Feb 19 2025, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(new in IT @ Feb 19 2025, 06:31 PM)
No wonder TNB engineer so high pay.
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Also R&R problem.
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Feb 19 2025, 07:48 PM)
Also R&R problem.
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Ya, those high pay fulfill 2Rs.
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post Feb 19 2025, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(king99 @ Feb 19 2025, 05:38 PM)
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I wonder what will happen in this case.

Got one unit under renovation but got money issue, delayed, no TNB cable connected to the unit, thus no account.

Pencuri setup illegal mining operation in the unit with no people.

Pencuri "hijack" cable to my unit, but before the meter.

In this case if TNB found out, would me or the empty unit be in trouble ??
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The cables infra before your unit meter belong to TNB. If the tapping is before the TNB’s meter and it serves another unit, it is not your issue.

If it taps before the TNB’s meter and goes to your unit, you will be at fault.

For Selangor’s PBT, there are no more overhead cables allowed (all buried underground), hence the tapping before the meter is quite impossible unless it was carried out during the construction.

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QUOTE(king99 @ Feb 19 2025, 07:28 PM)
The scary part is you could go 1 week holiday,

Someone disguise as TNB contractor masuk your house and purposely "modify" your meter without your permission.

Then that person make report to TNB say you curi electric.

Then real TNB come check and say you 10 year curi electric and demand you pay RM100 000.
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Won't be like this la. They need to check electricity at substation in vs houses unit out to estimate your 'stolen' usage (+penalty if any).
Mana boleh suka2 pull number out of thin air.
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post Feb 19 2025, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(BuKeYi @ Feb 19 2025, 01:40 PM)
they curi electric before the meter check, so they bypass it.

ur meter won't know. unless a huge amount of electric consumption in that area and that's why they come and check.
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With that magnitude of the usage, the incoming source intake could be easily a 200A ~ 300A CT meter.

200A ~ 300A CT meter, the bypass cable upfront cost is high. I doubt anyone who wants to steal utility will be willing to come out with such massive upfront cost. More likely, the tenant is using an existing meter registered under the owner’s name.

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post Feb 19 2025, 07:04 PM

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Buy property they say
Earn rental money they say
The property pays for itself they say

Now hailat already
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post Feb 19 2025, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(nihility @ Feb 19 2025, 06:57 PM)
The cables infra before your unit meter belong to TNB. If the tapping is before the TNB’s meter and it serves another unit, it is not your issue.

If it taps before the TNB’s meter and goes to your unit, you will be at fault.

For Selangor’s PBT, there are no more overhead cables allowed (all buried underground), hence the tapping before the meter is quite impossible unless it was carried out during the construction.
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Like I said the analogy, someone parked in a private car park owned by the landlord, when the car stolen instead of prosecuting the theft you go after the landlord of the carpark?

Also if people tap and steal water from the pipe from outside your house, just because it is stolen closest to the branch that goes into your house before the meter, you the landlord kena saman?

EDIT:

Why they dare not pursue the theft directly which is the tenant renting from the landlord?

Got insider job that he/she knows between TNB contractors which will be spilled out?

Now thinking carefully, this electricity thefts might have something to do with insider job just like TM cable thefts recently.

This post has been edited by petpenyubobo: Feb 19 2025, 07:09 PM
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post Feb 19 2025, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(nihility @ Feb 19 2025, 07:04 PM)
With that magnitude of the usage, the incoming source intake could be easily a 200A ~ 300A CT meter.

200A ~ 300A CT meter, the bypass cable upfront cost is high. I doubt anyone who wants to steal utility will be willing to come out with such massive upfront cost. More likely, the tenant is using an existing meter registered under the owner’s name.
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Or they have already planted tap points in the infra from beginning to allow electricity thefts during build outs.

Developer, TNB contractors and project contractors all got involvement? When the landlord decided to rent out the premise, they straight took opportunity to jump at it?
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Feb 19 2025, 07:06 PM)
Like I said the analogy, someone parked in a private car park owned by the landlord, when the car stolen instead of prosecuting the theft you go after the landlord of the carpark?

Also if people tap and steal water from the pipe from outside your house, just because it is stolen closest to the branch that goes into your house before the meter, you the landlord kena saman?

EDIT:

Why they dare not pursue the theft directly which is the tenant renting from the landlord?

Got insider job that he/she knows between TNB contractors which will be spilled out?

Now thinking carefully, this electricity thefts might have something to do with insider job just like TM cable thefts recently.
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Your analogy is valid. If the tapping is from public infrastructure didn’t go into your unit, ask TNB to prove that you are at fault and benefit from the theft. If they can’t provide the proof, the argument stops there.

Your speculation statements post the edit - you need to seek your answer from the other.

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post Feb 19 2025, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Feb 19 2025, 01:32 PM)
With tnb app, there's no reason for LL to get surprises if he checks diligently.
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Funfacts, tapping before meter is not tracked by your TNB app.
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QUOTE(ycs @ Feb 19 2025, 01:40 PM)
Electricity Supply Act 1990 is lopsided against consumers
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Fuck TNB, run your own solar farm and live off-grid.

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