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post Feb 20 2025, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(king99 @ Feb 19 2025, 08:38 PM)
I wonder if we can call TNB to check on our premise every month and we pay them.

Like we pay them RM150 per month, come our premise to check, then keep in black and white Jan 2025, no issue.

Then if tenant decide to curi electric on Feb 2025, worse is we pay for Feb 2025 since Jan 2025 is "confirmed no curi".
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just change the tnb bill to the tenant names during the rental period.
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post Feb 20 2025, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(nelson969 @ Feb 20 2025, 08:00 AM)
by the time to find the tenant sudah change identiy and lari lari far far
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that's why tnb take the easy way out and go after the homeowner in some cases

personally i think the govt should do more to protect the consumers instead of tnb
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post Feb 20 2025, 08:51 AM

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must insist tenant to apply for TNB and make the meter under their name
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post Feb 20 2025, 08:57 AM

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post Feb 20 2025, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(nelson969 @ Feb 20 2025, 08:00 AM)
by the time to find the tenant sudah change identiy and lari lari far far
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So, if a tenent commit a murder in a rented house and run far far, the landlord is then turned into the murderer?
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post Feb 20 2025, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Feb 19 2025, 02:06 PM)
Pakai nama sama. The meter is illegally registered via legal method.

Also, the app now offers to add your account via IC numbers.

I am not saying the owner is negligent. The court shouldnt judge the owner has to pay since they dont use the electricity. The meter registration itself is a fraud. The burden should fall on TNB to pay their own mistakes for fraudulant registeration.
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Indeed. This looks like poor due diligence on TNBs part. The owner will have no idea (and likely TNB also) if they bypassed the meter.

Anything before the meter shouldnt be the LL's responsibility.
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post Feb 20 2025, 10:13 AM

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tenant curi electic how. how would LL know via TNB app?
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post Feb 20 2025, 10:20 AM

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the problem is tenant go apply apply tng under his/her name but using fake ic, mayb fake name too

unless u can bring tenant go tnb giv ic do thumbprint then another story la.

now property owners will be getting a real hit lo knowing even if tnb name under tenant u still kena.
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QUOTE(kennykong85 @ Feb 20 2025, 10:20 AM)
the problem is tenant go apply apply tng under his/her name but using fake ic, mayb fake name too

unless u can bring tenant go tnb giv ic do thumbprint then another story la.

now property owners will be getting a real hit lo knowing even if tnb name under tenant u still kena.
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tnb not that foolish ler.
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post Feb 20 2025, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(king99 @ Feb 19 2025, 05:38 PM)
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I wonder what will happen in this case.

Got one unit under renovation but got money issue, delayed, no TNB cable connected to the unit, thus no account.

Pencuri setup illegal mining operation in the unit with no people.

Pencuri "hijack" cable to my unit, but before the meter.

In this case if TNB found out, would me or the empty unit be in trouble ??
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Where was it tap from? If it's from area inside ur property? If its within ur area, ur responsible, otherwise its the other property owner problem
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post Feb 20 2025, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(Ashadiya @ Feb 20 2025, 12:19 PM)
Where was it tap from? If it's from area inside ur property? If its within ur area, ur responsible, otherwise its the other property owner problem
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Outside public pole
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post Feb 20 2025, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(king99 @ Feb 19 2025, 08:38 PM)
I wonder if we can call TNB to check on our premise every month and we pay them.

Like we pay them RM150 per month, come our premise to check, then keep in black and white Jan 2025, no issue.

Then if tenant decide to curi electric on Feb 2025, worse is we pay for Feb 2025 since Jan 2025 is "confirmed no curi".
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Y u wanna pay TNB? Go pay for ur own certified electrician to go check loh
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post Feb 20 2025, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(king99 @ Feb 20 2025, 12:38 PM)
Outside public pole
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As long the pole is not inside ur property, it's not ur problem, but ur neighbour when tnb find out will going to be a happy person when get the backdated bills
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post Feb 20 2025, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(billyboy @ Feb 19 2025, 05:08 PM)
should open a course how to detect curi elektrik to shop house owners  rclxms.gif
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U can be the next property guru!
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post Feb 20 2025, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(Ashadiya @ Feb 20 2025, 12:39 PM)
Y u wanna pay TNB? Go pay for ur own certified electrician to go check loh
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The issue is if we check this month got tampering and report to TNB, what stop TNB to say we have been tampering for 12 months and pay penalty ?
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QUOTE(king99 @ Feb 20 2025, 12:44 PM)
The issue is if we check this month got tampering and report to TNB, what stop TNB to say we have been tampering for 12 months and pay penalty ?
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U don't, like someone mention here, u kick ur tenant out, renovate and fix it so no more tampered electricity and act ignorance
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post Feb 20 2025, 12:51 PM

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if you find out tenant tamper you better don't report or TNB go after you for the losses biggrin.gif
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post Feb 20 2025, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(samftrmd @ Feb 20 2025, 07:36 AM)
Why can't they go after the tenent?
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Yes, why not the tenant got very solid evidence on him.

Landlord has the rental service agreement which the tenant signed and also the confiscated crypto mining equipment which belongs to tenant.

This 2 are very solid evidence and proof that the tenant is the thief.
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QUOTE(Ashadiya @ Feb 20 2025, 12:19 PM)
Where was it tap from? If it's from area inside ur property? If its within ur area, ur responsible, otherwise its the other property owner problem
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This is very silly logic.

If say the public utility pipe and electricity cable that is the property of the utility company is in front of your house. People tap and steal from it, the tenant is held responsible?

Do you even understand what is a demarcation point or demilitarized zone(DMZ) between 2 country borders work?

At one side is TNB's property, the other side of the beyond the meter is the tenant's responsibility.
In this case, the TNB Smart Meter Input and Output serves as the Demarc Point.

If you don't understand go and Google "What Is A Demarc Point".

This one is gas line into residential homes.

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*Only the green line after the demarc point is the responsibility of the property owner.

This case sounds odd. I feel that the law firm which is representing these landlord tenants cases is incompetent and useless when it comes to consumer tribunals. I suggest they should boot him and find a more experienced one in handling their cases since their cases already involved millions.

Nothing to lose to spend a bit more on someone who can handle their cases better.


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post Feb 20 2025, 01:51 PM

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but how come TNB let it accrue until 1.7mil?

last time when I first started working, my electricity bill no pay for 1 month, 2nd month pink note already come. 3rd month still no pay the fella come and cut my electricity d. reconnect have to wait next working day

i think inside job ni

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