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TSnelson969
post Feb 19 2025, 01:30 PM, updated 10 months ago

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https://www.therakyatpost.com/news/malaysia...s-crypto-crime/


Original source from chinese , lazy to translate , https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?stor...&ref=embed_post

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Landlord Loses 2-Year Legal Battle, Forced To Pay RM825K For Tenant’s Crypto Crime
Despite TNB reducing the initial RM1.7 million penalty, the landlord still faces mounting costs, including legal fees and 5% interest on the outstanding amount.

After years of legal battles, a landlord has been forced to shoulder a massive electricity penalty.

Due to his tenant’s electricity theft, he ultimately faces an astronomical bill of RM825,000, which leaves him mentally and physically exhausted.

The landlord, Jason, shared his ordeal through a Facebook page.

He revealed that his nightmare began in July 2020 when he rented his property to a tenant who claimed to run a computer business, only to discover later that the tenant was a complete fraudster.

He revealed that his nightmare began in July 2020 when he rented his property to a tenant who claimed to run a computer business, only to discover later that the tenant was a complete fraudster.

Following legal consultation, Jason was advised to wait for TNB’s lawyer’s letter rather than paying the penalty immediately.

After a two-year wait, TNB began processing the case in 2022 and reduced the penalty from RM1.7 million to RM825,000 – still an overwhelming amount.

The case underwent lengthy court proceedings from 2022 to 2024, with Jason losing the legal battle. He now has to pay:

The penalty amount continues to accrue 5% interest
RM25,000 for TNB’s legal fees
RM11,000 for his first lawyer’s collection fees

Jason expressed his frustration at the situation, questioning the fairness of a system that holds landlords accountable for their tenants’ illegal activities.

This has pushed me to the edge! I can’t accept losing my life savings like this, so I’ve decided to appeal and seek another lawyer for any chance of overturning the decision.

Landlords like Jason face challenges as some tenants have fraudulently opened TNB accounts in their names, leading to massive debts from illegal Bitcoin mining activities.

In a massive cryptocurrency mining fraud scheme, 45 property owners and business operators collectively lost RM8.5 million in electricity charges after tenants stole their identities to conduct illegal Bitcoin mining operations.

The victims only discovered the fraud upon receiving hefty bills from TNB.

Among the victims are KC Teo, a wheelchair-bound landlord facing a RM300,000 bill; Ganeson, who had to pay RM70,000; Tom, whose company was fraudulently used to register 10 TNB accounts accumulating RM700,000 in bills; and Loo, whose identity was stolen to rent a shop lot that amassed RM196,000 in electricity charges.

Petaling Jaya MP Lee Chean Chung has called for TNB to establish a dedicated task force to investigate Bitcoin mining activities and plans to propose amendments to the Electricity Supply Act 1990 in Parliament.



TLDR : landlord vs tnb but landlord loss , tnb had reduce penalty but it is still large amount , landlord fall into crypto scam tenant who spike the tnb bill


Lesson : all landlord must check tenant profile very super hard before sign tenancy agreement and landlord shaking in fear now the law is not side with them

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honorable ayam /k , thanks for the overwhelm respond

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post Feb 19 2025, 01:32 PM

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So property bubble soon?
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post Feb 19 2025, 01:32 PM

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With tnb app, there's no reason for LL to get surprises if he checks diligently.
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post Feb 19 2025, 01:33 PM

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tnb give discount, tnb not winning either.
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post Feb 19 2025, 01:33 PM

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825kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
pay to tnb?biar betul...every day pay rm1 can la...tnb slow slow wait
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post Feb 19 2025, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(poco loco @ Feb 19 2025, 01:33 PM)
825kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
pay to tnb?biar betul...every day pay rm1 can la...tnb slow slow wait
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Cant la, later they cut off how ? Suddenly ask one shot payment or no electricity for you
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post Feb 19 2025, 01:34 PM

 
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Feb 19 2025, 01:32 PM)
With tnb app, there's no reason for LL to get surprises if he checks diligently.
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Curi electric. Got app also useless.
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post Feb 19 2025, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Feb 19 2025, 01:32 PM)
With tnb app, there's no reason for LL to get surprises if he checks diligently.
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wont work if tenant illegally taps into the cable
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post Feb 19 2025, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Feb 19 2025, 01:32 PM)
With tnb app, there's no reason for LL to get surprises if he checks diligently.
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i dont think they could check much details if the account under different name. at best only monthly bill.
but most of the time landlord just dont bother if monthly bill is low anyway, they only shocked if the bill is high. evil crypto miner will just make sambungan haram, so bill will always low than it should.

anyway landlord must buy current clamp to actually check the current flow, if it is too high, but the meter run slow, then it is redflag.
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post Feb 19 2025, 01:35 PM

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As long the building on that address is yours. You still the one yang kena responsible, no matter what name on the TNB meter. Yeah,kinda suck
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post Feb 19 2025, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Feb 19 2025, 01:32 PM)
With tnb app, there's no reason for LL to get surprises if he checks diligently.
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They bypass the meter, app will show nothing.

Done well, naked eye wont be able to tell, more so our untrained eye.
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post Feb 19 2025, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(nelson969 @ Feb 19 2025, 01:33 PM)
Cant la, later they cut off how ? Suddenly ask one shot payment or no electricity for you
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kamikazi jer la
even after sell the house still rugi ni

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habisla rent price gonna naik
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post Feb 19 2025, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Feb 19 2025, 01:32 PM)
With tnb app, there's no reason for LL to get surprises if he checks diligently.
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they curi electric before the meter check, so they bypass it.

ur meter won't know. unless a huge amount of electric consumption in that area and that's why they come and check.
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post Feb 19 2025, 01:40 PM

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don't rent out, no problem.
just sell the house/shop
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post Feb 19 2025, 01:40 PM

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Electricity Supply Act 1990 is lopsided against consumers
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post Feb 19 2025, 01:42 PM

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in this case, I congratz TNB. Same method to those who hacked their meter, b4 kantoi, me happy cz monthly rm60 with 4 AC, after kantoi, damn u TNB so cruel.
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post Feb 19 2025, 01:43 PM

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Funny thing with TNB is that if the amount exceeds the deposit collected by them shouldnt it be cut off immediately. Surely every business has credit terms and limit per customer. Sounds fishy.
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