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nihility
post Feb 19 2025, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(king99 @ Feb 19 2025, 05:38 PM)
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I wonder what will happen in this case.

Got one unit under renovation but got money issue, delayed, no TNB cable connected to the unit, thus no account.

Pencuri setup illegal mining operation in the unit with no people.

Pencuri "hijack" cable to my unit, but before the meter.

In this case if TNB found out, would me or the empty unit be in trouble ??
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The cables infra before your unit meter belong to TNB. If the tapping is before the TNB’s meter and it serves another unit, it is not your issue.

If it taps before the TNB’s meter and goes to your unit, you will be at fault.

For Selangor’s PBT, there are no more overhead cables allowed (all buried underground), hence the tapping before the meter is quite impossible unless it was carried out during the construction.

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post Feb 19 2025, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(BuKeYi @ Feb 19 2025, 01:40 PM)
they curi electric before the meter check, so they bypass it.

ur meter won't know. unless a huge amount of electric consumption in that area and that's why they come and check.
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With that magnitude of the usage, the incoming source intake could be easily a 200A ~ 300A CT meter.

200A ~ 300A CT meter, the bypass cable upfront cost is high. I doubt anyone who wants to steal utility will be willing to come out with such massive upfront cost. More likely, the tenant is using an existing meter registered under the owner’s name.

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post Feb 19 2025, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Feb 19 2025, 07:06 PM)
Like I said the analogy, someone parked in a private car park owned by the landlord, when the car stolen instead of prosecuting the theft you go after the landlord of the carpark?

Also if people tap and steal water from the pipe from outside your house, just because it is stolen closest to the branch that goes into your house before the meter, you the landlord kena saman?

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Why they dare not pursue the theft directly which is the tenant renting from the landlord?

Got insider job that he/she knows between TNB contractors which will be spilled out?

Now thinking carefully, this electricity thefts might have something to do with insider job just like TM cable thefts recently.
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Your analogy is valid. If the tapping is from public infrastructure didn’t go into your unit, ask TNB to prove that you are at fault and benefit from the theft. If they can’t provide the proof, the argument stops there.

Your speculation statements post the edit - you need to seek your answer from the other.

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post Feb 19 2025, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Feb 19 2025, 07:12 PM)
Or they have already planted tap points in the infra from beginning to allow electricity thefts during build outs.

Developer, TNB contractors and project contractors all got involvement? When the landlord decided to rent out the premise, they straight took opportunity to jump at it?
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Too negative speculation statement and almost will not happen.

Reasons:-

1) No developer so stupid to come out with additional capex to benefit buyers. This additional thing they cannot even bill the buyer.

2) The unit compliance is supervised by the site supervision team reporting to the Engineer and Architect. No stupid Engineer will sign the CCC clearance & risk their practising license got suspended. What benefits the buyer can offer to Engineer to make them risk their practising license being at risk? If not logic, pls throw away the idea.

The risk >>>> reward.

Only idiot Engineer will do this stupid decision.

The theft modification is more likely to happen after the project handover ( developer will be out of the picture), where the buyer instructed their electrician to modify it.

As I explained, for the cable buried underground for Selangor, it is very unlikely to happen, hence you can eliminate this possibility.

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post Feb 19 2025, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Feb 19 2025, 07:54 PM)
Buried underground if worst how did the tenant managed to tap the electricity before the meter and stole so much without doing major modifications noticed?

Not unless the taps were already well planned and known. They had the layout design plan where to tap from.
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You need to view thing from the broader angle. Only Selangor PBT enforce underground distribution cabling. It doesn’t mean other states are using the same.



 

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