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post Feb 19 2025, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Feb 19 2025, 02:32 PM)
With tnb app, there's no reason for LL to get surprises if he checks diligently.
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App don't show from upstream if they bypass your local meter leh.
TnB also don't instantly know if got curi, how would homeowners fare any better.

Anyway generally miners how to profile?
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post Feb 19 2025, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Feb 19 2025, 03:12 PM)
Another very stupid thing about TNB is why dont cut the electric early?

Whats the guarantee letting it flows like that , you will get the money back?

TNB is a fat cow. time to make it works.
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Bill racked up by tenant from July to Dec same year. Means maybe something like this:

3 month see high usage but meter not matching trigger flag under TNB.
1-2 month finding out which unit under that substation consuming very high electricity.
1-2 month verifying and calculating backpay and billing owner.

Initial bill amount was 1.7mil for July-Dec (283k average per month if 6 month).
Even if they settle and find out within 2 month also you mau pay if kena bill for 500k+?
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post Feb 19 2025, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(Seawater @ Feb 19 2025, 03:30 PM)
If a house got zero usage in electricity is already red flag. So difficult to check? Just go visit all those house with zero usage.
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Easily evaded, normal appliance still use house punya wiring. Bypassed wiring you lay cable for your mining setup room only.
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post Feb 19 2025, 02:46 PM

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To the folks saying must change meter name to tenant:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4994416/all/1000

TnB refusing to re-open k-tard account because outstanding amount which they consider is tied to the property itself.

tl:dr don't invest in poorperty.
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post Feb 19 2025, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(billyboy @ Feb 19 2025, 03:51 PM)
are you sure ke ?

This argument was raised by the appellant in the case of Thomas Thomas@Mohan a/l K Thomas v Tenaga Nasional Berhad & Ors [2017] MLJU 70 (“Thomas”). The Appellant argued that he should not be held liable as he was not the occupier of the premises and therefore not the consumer of the electricity.

The Court of Appeal in Thomas followed the decision in Tenaga Nasional Bhd v Empayar Canggih Sdn Bhd (previously known as ODVD Manufacturer Sdn Bhd) [2014] 8 MLJ 280, where it was held that it was the registered consumer that was responsible as the power and supply agreement with TNB was in their name. 

https://www.thomasphilip.com.my/articles/i-...eter-tampering/
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For this case Jason punya tenant used fake identification to rent.

If landlord maintain account name, under landlord responsibility to chase tenant for settlement (goodluck). TnB will still bill landlord as account owner, you want chase tenant you punya hal.

If landlord transfer account name to (faked id) tenant, you won't kena chase, but if TnB want the outstanding to be settled first what can you do? Initiate legal, minimum maybe 2 years. In the mean time your unit no electricity confirm cannot rent. After 2 years result maybe kena like this Jason (1.7mil turun to 800k, still fucked).

TnB too stronk in either case.

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QUOTE(billyboy @ Feb 19 2025, 04:23 PM)
If TNB goes after shop owner and NOT after the registered meter, then it is an illegal act.

TNB Kedai manager can huff and puff. However if it goes to TNB HQ, the legal department will follow the law.  cool2.gif
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Again, shop owner mungkin no kena bill, but if they don't want to re-open under your account because previous account holder the tenant account got outstanding how? Technically you can't close an account with outstanding unless do write-off. They can just say they're initiating legal with previous account and your account will be opened once that's settled.

I believe Electricity Supply Act got state they must supply to people, but not within how long. Technically they are 'working on it', so hard to push the blame on them. See who can play the waiting game.
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QUOTE(king99 @ Feb 19 2025, 07:28 PM)
The scary part is you could go 1 week holiday,

Someone disguise as TNB contractor masuk your house and purposely "modify" your meter without your permission.

Then that person make report to TNB say you curi electric.

Then real TNB come check and say you 10 year curi electric and demand you pay RM100 000.
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Won't be like this la. They need to check electricity at substation in vs houses unit out to estimate your 'stolen' usage (+penalty if any).
Mana boleh suka2 pull number out of thin air.

 

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