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 Thinking of getting an MT-07, Maintenance cost and issues?

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post Nov 17 2024, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(JPlaSMaY666 @ Nov 17 2024, 11:37 AM)
One thing that caught me is always the 'bump' going up the titi and it takes me half a second to steady myself once I'm fully on it. As time in the driving school is always limited, does anyone have any other tips on how else I can practice the skills needed to pass this 'wall'? Hahah

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post Nov 18 2024, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(JPlaSMaY666 @ Nov 17 2024, 11:37 AM)
Hi Kawans, in case anyone's wondering, I'm still alive and well. got all my limbs intact too. Hahah

Just to update, I've gotten my bike for a week and had my first class at the driving school yesterday. Ended up with a Leoncino 250 in pretty good condition from a friend (Was a deal I couldn't resist)

And also I want to thank everyone who talked me out of getting an MT07 as my first bike. My driving school uses the MT07 as their practice + test bikes and whoa, the handling and weight is not something I would have been able to handle without any prior experience. So thanks for stopping me from doing something stupid.

By the way, I could go through the riding test motions at the driving school but one thing I seem to be having issues with is the dreaded titi. Kept going off the titi for some reason even when I'm trying to follow through with all the tips given.

- Don't look down
- Look ahead
- Play with clutch and brake

One thing that caught me is always the 'bump' going up the titi and it takes me half a second to steady myself once I'm fully on it. As time in the driving school is always limited, does anyone have any other tips on how else I can practice the skills needed to pass this 'wall'? Hahah

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That's means you are not going fast enough to ramp up the titi.

The theory that you already know:
- Don't look down
- Look ahead
- Play with clutch and brake

Combine with:
1) Start moving bike faster to ramp up the titi.
2) On titi, clutch at friction zone, if too fast, use the rear brake slightly to slow it down. If too slow combine with slight throttle & rear brake together, it helps to straigthen the bike.
3) DO NOT USE FRONT BRAKE, once you press front brake, you are literrally done. Worse case you might fell from bike.

Some little tips:
- Try to push your bike further behind before you start ramp up, if it is allow. (my driving school allow me to do so)
- Don't count time first until you are familiar with all the technique as mentioned above and you pass the titi for many times.
- Try all the bikes at your driving school as all the bike might have different feeling and characteristic.
- Lastly, don't fall from titi. As long you don't fall from titi, you will have 70% chance to pass the test. You are lucky if the JPJ officer forgot, lazy, tired & etc counting time. icon_rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by acid_head: Nov 18 2024, 12:53 AM
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post Nov 18 2024, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Nov 17 2024, 07:49 PM)
which driving school is this? usually they use er6n or z650.. mt07 is kinda unusual to be used in driving school here laugh.gif

like jaycee said, give a lil bit of speed before going up the bumb, then its all fine control between rear brake, clutch and throttle.

then you can start counting on the bridge '1001','1002','1003', until seven to since you need to stay on it for 7 seconds minimum.
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i did mine in metro puchong. Learn using er6n but during test, i was given mt 07....totally different bike but no choice...
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post Nov 18 2024, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(Voopoo @ Nov 18 2024, 05:53 PM)
i did mine in metro puchong. Learn using er6n but during test, i was given mt 07....totally different bike but no choice...
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Must be new. When I was there only z650s
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post Nov 19 2024, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Nov 18 2024, 08:34 PM)
Must be new. When I was there only z650s
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i was there july-sep, only have z650 too...
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post Nov 19 2024, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(acid_head @ Nov 18 2024, 12:52 AM)
That's means you are not going fast enough to ramp up the titi.

The theory that you already know:
- Don't look down
- Look ahead
- Play with clutch and brake

Combine with:
1) Start moving bike faster to ramp up the titi.
2) On titi, clutch at friction zone, if too fast, use the rear brake slightly to slow it down. If too slow combine with slight throttle & rear brake together, it helps to straigthen the bike.
3) DO NOT USE FRONT BRAKE, once you press front brake, you are literrally done. Worse case you might fell from bike.

Some little tips:
- Try to push your bike further behind before you start ramp up, if it is allow. (my driving school allow me to do so)
- Don't count time first until you are familiar with all the technique as mentioned above and you pass the titi for many times.
- Try all the bikes at your driving school as all the bike might have different feeling and characteristic.
-  Lastly, don't fall from titi. As long you don't fall from titi, you will have 70% chance to pass the test. You are lucky if the JPJ officer forgot, lazy, tired & etc counting time.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Ah crud, that's where I failed as I've been drilled doing my braking via the front brakes only and not touch the back. Guess that's where it's coming back to haunt me now. Need to work on my back brakes. Since getting my bike, I've not touched my back brakes at all bangwall.gif so I guess that's my kryptonite..

Need to go back to practicing slow maneuvers with the back brakes..

Another thing to note, the bikes in my school have some of biggest free play on the clutch and on a bike like the MT-07, a little slip means the engine dying, or worst, the bike lurching forward when you least expect it. It's never really the same spot on the clutch friction zone.
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post Nov 19 2024, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(JPlaSMaY666 @ Nov 19 2024, 03:47 PM)
Ah crud, that's where I failed as I've been drilled doing my braking via the front brakes only and not touch the back. Guess that's where it's coming back to haunt me now. Need to work on my back brakes. Since getting my bike, I've not touched my back brakes at all  bangwall.gif  so I guess that's my kryptonite..

Need to go back to practicing slow maneuvers with the back brakes..

Another thing to note, the bikes in my school have some of biggest free play on the clutch and on a bike like the MT-07, a little slip means the engine dying, or worst, the bike lurching forward when you least expect it. It's never really the same spot on the clutch friction zone.
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That's why you need to familiarise all the bikes available in your driving. Don't be shy to ask exchange the bike with other learners. I did that, ask them exchange the bike during learning together, jot down the number plate and the characteristic of the bike so you can remember and avoid the mistakes. Sorry I may sounds a bit extreme but I know I don't have skill in riding so I try to minimise my mistakes.

This post has been edited by acid_head: Nov 19 2024, 05:55 PM
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post Nov 21 2024, 06:53 AM

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QUOTE(acid_head @ Nov 18 2024, 12:52 AM)
-  Lastly, don't fall from titi. As long you don't fall from titi, you will have 70% chance to pass the test. You are lucky if the JPJ officer forgot, lazy, tired & etc counting time.   icon_rolleyes.gif
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This is true, my officer passed my test despite me only spending 6.5+ secs on the titi. I guess as long as you look stable enough, even if you don't reach 7 seconds they will still let it go.

But don't dread the titi, put in the hours there because it really teaches you how to balance your bike in slow speed condition, you'll need it when riding in jam.

This post has been edited by JustForFun: Nov 21 2024, 06:53 AM
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post Nov 21 2024, 09:48 AM

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post Nov 21 2024, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(JustForFun @ Nov 21 2024, 06:53 AM)
This is true, my officer passed my test despite me only spending 6.5+ secs on the titi. I guess as long as you look stable enough, even if you don't reach 7 seconds they will still let it go.

But don't dread the titi, put in the hours there because it really teaches you how to balance your bike in slow speed condition, you'll need it when riding in jam.
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During my test day fall on last week of the year, the officer told every candidates that he want everyone pass the test happily and go celebrate new year on bike, he will not count the time on titi. As long dont fall, he wil give pass cool2.gif
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post Nov 22 2024, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(acid_head @ Nov 18 2024, 12:52 AM)
That's means you are not going fast enough to ramp up the titi.

The theory that you already know:
- Don't look down
- Look ahead
- Play with clutch and brake

Combine with:
1) Start moving bike faster to ramp up the titi.
2) On titi, clutch at friction zone, if too fast, use the rear brake slightly to slow it down. If too slow combine with slight throttle & rear brake together, it helps to straigthen the bike.
3) DO NOT USE FRONT BRAKE, once you press front brake, you are literrally done. Worse case you might fell from bike.

Some little tips:
- Try to push your bike further behind before you start ramp up, if it is allow. (my driving school allow me to do so)
- Don't count time first until you are familiar with all the technique as mentioned above and you pass the titi for many times.
- Try all the bikes at your driving school as all the bike might have different feeling and characteristic.
-  Lastly, don't fall from titi. As long you don't fall from titi, you will have 70% chance to pass the test. You are lucky if the JPJ officer forgot, lazy, tired & etc counting time.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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That's me, press front brake... I'm done hahaha fall down with er6n
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post Nov 22 2024, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(JPlaSMaY666 @ Nov 17 2024, 11:37 AM)
Hi Kawans, in case anyone's wondering, I'm still alive and well. got all my limbs intact too. Hahah

Just to update, I've gotten my bike for a week and had my first class at the driving school yesterday. Ended up with a Leoncino 250 in pretty good condition from a friend (Was a deal I couldn't resist)

And also I want to thank everyone who talked me out of getting an MT07 as my first bike. My driving school uses the MT07 as their practice + test bikes and whoa, the handling and weight is not something I would have been able to handle without any prior experience. So thanks for stopping me from doing something stupid.

By the way, I could go through the riding test motions at the driving school but one thing I seem to be having issues with is the dreaded titi. Kept going off the titi for some reason even when I'm trying to follow through with all the tips given.

- Don't look down
- Look ahead
- Play with clutch and brake

One thing that caught me is always the 'bump' going up the titi and it takes me half a second to steady myself once I'm fully on it. As time in the driving school is always limited, does anyone have any other tips on how else I can practice the skills needed to pass this 'wall'? Hahah

Thanks Kawans!
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Good to hear that, for newbie like me I think MT07 is good enough.. how much do you bought you leoncino for?
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post Nov 22 2024, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(RoofTopPrince @ Nov 22 2024, 01:35 PM)
That's me, press front brake... I'm done hahaha fall down with er6n
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Fuh..did you injured yourself? I saw someone injured his leg when he fell from bike on titi.
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post Nov 23 2024, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(acid_head @ Nov 22 2024, 07:54 PM)
Fuh..did you injured yourself? I saw someone injured his leg when he fell from bike on titi.
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I managed to take off my left while the bike fall down... The trick is like this, press a lil bit throttle when going up titi then only use rear brake and clutch.... Wallaaa btw where do you take your test? Mine at PS samy

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post Nov 24 2024, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(RoofTopPrince @ Nov 23 2024, 08:30 AM)
I managed to take off my left while the bike fall down... The trick is like this, press a lil bit throttle when going up titi then only use rear brake and clutch.... Wallaaa btw where do you take your test? Mine at PS samy
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I took mine at metro subang. You are lucky, i saw many peoples fall from titi and some were injured their leg.
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post Nov 24 2024, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(acid_head @ Nov 24 2024, 08:12 AM)
I took mine at metro subang. You are lucky, i saw many peoples fall from titi and some were injured their leg.
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Yup... Never press front brake.
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QUOTE(RoofTopPrince @ Nov 22 2024, 01:35 PM)
Good to hear that, for newbie like me I think MT07 is good enough.. how much do you bought you leoncino for?
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The MT-07 was definitely good enough in the brief time I spent with it at the driving school. Just too much 'goodness' for me to handle without the experience. Hahah

I got the Leoncino for RM7k with some aftermarket parts thrown in for good measure. (Exhaust, Crash Bar, Bar End Mirrors). Mileage was pretty low as well. Originally wanted a different bike but when the Leoncino became available, I didn't think too long because of the newer bike, ABS system and styling compared to the other 250cc bike I was considering.

This post has been edited by JPlaSMaY666: Nov 24 2024, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE(RoofTopPrince @ Nov 24 2024, 04:12 PM)
Yup... Never press front brake.
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Yea, have been practicing just balancing the clutch and back brakes. With the occasional throttle, it definitely made things A LOT easier.

Now I just need to find the balance between balance and going as slow as possible in a straight line. Hoping the hours I put into practicing will come in handy going into my future classes.
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QUOTE(acid_head @ Nov 19 2024, 05:55 PM)
That's why you need to familiarise all the bikes available in your driving. Don't be shy to ask exchange the bike with other learners. I did that, ask them exchange the bike during learning together, jot down the number plate and the characteristic of the bike so you can remember and avoid the mistakes. Sorry I may sounds a bit extreme but I know I don't have skill in riding so I try to minimise my mistakes.
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Yes, next round will try rotating the bikes. There are 3 Big CC bikes at my school. 2 x MT07 and 2 x ER6N. Will try the other MT07 next class as they only use MT07s during the JPJ test.

Still making amateurish small mistakes but spending around 120km riding around my taman and the surrounding area has helped build some level of confidence on the road. Now I'm trying to get used to going at speed because 50 to 60km/h still feels scary for me on the bike. I don't know if I'm supposed to feel like this. I mean, going 50 to 60 in a car feels vastly different on the bike.. Hahah
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QUOTE(JPlaSMaY666 @ Nov 24 2024, 05:36 PM)
Now I'm trying to get used to going at speed because 50 to 60km/h still feels scary for me on the bike. I don't know if I'm supposed to feel like this. I mean, going 50 to 60 in a car feels vastly different on the bike.. Hahah
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Curiously, going 200+ on a bike feels slower than the same speeds in a car.

Your brain just speeds up to compensate, making everything slow motion.

Just need to ride more and get used to it.....as with anything.


When I first got my dominar, the 35hp felt damn fast. Now the 100hp NK feels "just adequate".

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