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post Oct 17 2024, 04:53 AM

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QUOTE(Voopoo @ Oct 16 2024, 05:14 PM)
yes, thank you to all you sifus for your advise
after riding a 145 kg 250cc bike for 3 years and switched to a 200kg 650, the weight difference is huge....can immediately feel it during slow speed maneuver.
when i just got my L license, the weight of a bike didnt even cross my mind when i wanted to get a 650cc bike right from the start.
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what is the 250cc you bhave rode back then?
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post Oct 17 2024, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(Voopoo @ Oct 17 2024, 12:09 PM)
CB250R, still riding it as my daily ride to work. Wasn't my plan to ride to work but due to the jam nowadays, i prefer riding than driving
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i love this bike. Mind to share how much you have bought? Is it hard to find the spare part as I read many people’s complaining the honda parts availability is a mess now.


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post Oct 19 2024, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(Voopoo @ Oct 18 2024, 03:15 PM)
I'm still in the process of breaking in the 650 and its an inline 4, not much low end torque but it is noticeably slightly more powerful than the single cylinder 250 during acceleration from a complete stop. can't give any comparison with a MT07 which has shitloads of low end torque. after a couple of rides, i am getting used to it, but there are things i won't do  what i normally do on the 250 while riding in heavy/standstill traffic due to its weight. the 250 is far more forgiving compared to a 200 kg bike. I am able to hold the bike upright for mistakes i made due to it being lightweight and its a definite fall if its done on the 650 and its mistakes that i feel can only learn from experience( esp slow speed manuever/parking/u turn on slopes) , its not taught in institutes .

for getting rid of the fear of filtering between traffic. i only ride during weekends when there's not that many cars around and crazy kapchais speeding. and also practice slow speed manuevers especially a straight line at slow speed till i know i am ready  to give it a go and it will progress naturally and the fear will eventually go away. just lots of practice.

just to share with you how i finally decided to start off with a 250 instead of a 650 is during my first lesson on the ER6N, everything was going well and i thought a 650 should be manageable for someone like me with 0 experience in riding a bike until i had a fall, front wheel was slightly turned and i grabbed the front brake to stop at very slow speed and down the bike went with no chance of holding the bike up due to its weight. that incident made me change my mind.
my commute is not on a highway where the lanes are alot wider than normal roads, my route is jalan gasing and old klang road and its always bumper to bumper/standstill traffic during peak hours and the distance between cars are small compared to filtering on a highway. the 250 is alot more easier to filter and cutting across from one side to another in a stand still traffic( doing a sharp 90 degree turn) . on the 650 i would imagine if i made a mistake i would have ended up landing on the car's front bonnet or the rear. its still doable but its just too much work for that plus with impatient kapchais queueing up behind you will only make things worse. will be using the 650 for weekend / long distance rides only
I bought it brand new ard 24K, can't remember the exact figure. yes they were having issues with bringing in bikes and spare parts for 2 years for reasons that we do not know. but since the beginning of this year everything has resumed as normal. for spare parts you can also contact a seller(he's in the whatsapp group as well) that assist in bringing in original parts from thailand should you not want to purchase it from bigwing.

if you're interested in 2nd unit, the market price right now is around 10-12K and you still can nego with them. you can also join the whatsapp group for this bike to know more. So far i have yet to see anyone complaining about the bike and there's one rider who has rode it for > 100,000km with no issues
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I’m considering 2nd MT25, CB250 or new gixxer. 3 of them more or less the same price. Occasionally looking 2nd Z650 as well. And yeah, last i also looking 2nd hand d400 as many sifu recommended here cheap to disposable.

Let me guess, your 650 is CB650R?

QUOTE(JustForFun @ Oct 18 2024, 10:09 PM)
Gotta respect you for riding through Old Klang road, with a sportbike that has less turning radius no less. Tried it a couple of times and decided it's too dangerous for me, the stupid road design forces cars to merge left and right and during peak hours, and that's too dangerous for riders. By the way, does the police saman riders using the bus lane there during morning rush hours?

Btw, I think people have this false impression that filtering traffic is just going one straight line, but a lot of times you will come to these choke points where some cars are close to each other but not exactly parallel, so you'll have to flick your bike left and right fast to avoid knocking people's side mirror off. 200KG of metal will do you no good in such situation, and you better pray that the long queue of kapchais behind you are patient enough to not go crazy on their horns if you're stuck.
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His bike is CB250, not CBR 250. Is a naked bike.
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post Nov 18 2024, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(JPlaSMaY666 @ Nov 17 2024, 11:37 AM)
Hi Kawans, in case anyone's wondering, I'm still alive and well. got all my limbs intact too. Hahah

Just to update, I've gotten my bike for a week and had my first class at the driving school yesterday. Ended up with a Leoncino 250 in pretty good condition from a friend (Was a deal I couldn't resist)

And also I want to thank everyone who talked me out of getting an MT07 as my first bike. My driving school uses the MT07 as their practice + test bikes and whoa, the handling and weight is not something I would have been able to handle without any prior experience. So thanks for stopping me from doing something stupid.

By the way, I could go through the riding test motions at the driving school but one thing I seem to be having issues with is the dreaded titi. Kept going off the titi for some reason even when I'm trying to follow through with all the tips given.

- Don't look down
- Look ahead
- Play with clutch and brake

One thing that caught me is always the 'bump' going up the titi and it takes me half a second to steady myself once I'm fully on it. As time in the driving school is always limited, does anyone have any other tips on how else I can practice the skills needed to pass this 'wall'? Hahah

Thanks Kawans!
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That's means you are not going fast enough to ramp up the titi.

The theory that you already know:
- Don't look down
- Look ahead
- Play with clutch and brake

Combine with:
1) Start moving bike faster to ramp up the titi.
2) On titi, clutch at friction zone, if too fast, use the rear brake slightly to slow it down. If too slow combine with slight throttle & rear brake together, it helps to straigthen the bike.
3) DO NOT USE FRONT BRAKE, once you press front brake, you are literrally done. Worse case you might fell from bike.

Some little tips:
- Try to push your bike further behind before you start ramp up, if it is allow. (my driving school allow me to do so)
- Don't count time first until you are familiar with all the technique as mentioned above and you pass the titi for many times.
- Try all the bikes at your driving school as all the bike might have different feeling and characteristic.
- Lastly, don't fall from titi. As long you don't fall from titi, you will have 70% chance to pass the test. You are lucky if the JPJ officer forgot, lazy, tired & etc counting time. icon_rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by acid_head: Nov 18 2024, 12:53 AM
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post Nov 19 2024, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(JPlaSMaY666 @ Nov 19 2024, 03:47 PM)
Ah crud, that's where I failed as I've been drilled doing my braking via the front brakes only and not touch the back. Guess that's where it's coming back to haunt me now. Need to work on my back brakes. Since getting my bike, I've not touched my back brakes at all  bangwall.gif  so I guess that's my kryptonite..

Need to go back to practicing slow maneuvers with the back brakes..

Another thing to note, the bikes in my school have some of biggest free play on the clutch and on a bike like the MT-07, a little slip means the engine dying, or worst, the bike lurching forward when you least expect it. It's never really the same spot on the clutch friction zone.
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That's why you need to familiarise all the bikes available in your driving. Don't be shy to ask exchange the bike with other learners. I did that, ask them exchange the bike during learning together, jot down the number plate and the characteristic of the bike so you can remember and avoid the mistakes. Sorry I may sounds a bit extreme but I know I don't have skill in riding so I try to minimise my mistakes.

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post Nov 21 2024, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(JustForFun @ Nov 21 2024, 06:53 AM)
This is true, my officer passed my test despite me only spending 6.5+ secs on the titi. I guess as long as you look stable enough, even if you don't reach 7 seconds they will still let it go.

But don't dread the titi, put in the hours there because it really teaches you how to balance your bike in slow speed condition, you'll need it when riding in jam.
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During my test day fall on last week of the year, the officer told every candidates that he want everyone pass the test happily and go celebrate new year on bike, he will not count the time on titi. As long dont fall, he wil give pass cool2.gif
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post Nov 22 2024, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(RoofTopPrince @ Nov 22 2024, 01:35 PM)
That's me, press front brake... I'm done hahaha fall down with er6n
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Fuh..did you injured yourself? I saw someone injured his leg when he fell from bike on titi.
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post Nov 24 2024, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(RoofTopPrince @ Nov 23 2024, 08:30 AM)
I managed to take off my left while the bike fall down... The trick is like this, press a lil bit throttle when going up titi then only use rear brake and clutch.... Wallaaa btw where do you take your test? Mine at PS samy
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I took mine at metro subang. You are lucky, i saw many peoples fall from titi and some were injured their leg.
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post Nov 28 2024, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(JPlaSMaY666 @ Nov 24 2024, 05:36 PM)
Yes, next round will try rotating the bikes. There are 3 Big CC bikes at my school. 2 x MT07 and 2 x ER6N. Will try the other MT07 next class as they only use MT07s during the JPJ test.

Still making amateurish small mistakes but spending around 120km riding around my taman and the surrounding area has helped build some level of confidence on the road. Now I'm trying to get used to going at speed because 50 to 60km/h still feels scary for me on the bike. I don't know if I'm supposed to feel like this. I mean, going 50 to 60 in a car feels vastly different on the bike.. Hahah
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Just my curiosity, what bike you are riding now?

Well yea, i only have kapcai and I hvnt been riding bike for 10 years. When I started back and ride in KL town, i feel it is very fast even on 50kph. It is pretty normal.
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post Jan 6 2025, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(arvind13 @ Jan 6 2025, 02:56 PM)
Hey bro... Woahh that's a milestone riding to office for the first time..  thumbup.gif  I remember my old times with a Leoncino 250 which was a wild horse to tame.. Short gear ratio and rough handling.. Sold off last year and got myself a Vstrom 250 SX. Vast difference in terms of handling, engine smoothness, gear shift and ratio..  biggrin.gif
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Rough handling means? How’s the overall experience of Leoncino 250?
Im glad that you are complimenting Vstrom 250, as I am eyeing on Gixxer 250, I assume the engine setup is quite close to Vstrom.

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post Feb 26 2025, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(JPlaSMaY666 @ Feb 26 2025, 08:17 PM)
Yea, that was one of the main concerns I had when it comes to using the back brakes. But touch wood, haven't skidded yet. Must be due to me riding like an old man. Hahah

I do notice using the rear brakes allowed me to control the bike better during slower maneuvers..especially important during lane splitting.
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During lane splitting, yes I'm using rear brake often together with throttle (on kapcai), as it help to balance back the bike during slow speed. Which I learnt it on titi. tongue.gif

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anyone can recommend the riding pants and also riding boots?
Looking for the high performance ratio type as I'm not rich to buy to top tier brand like alphine star & etc

 

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