Yea, not to worry. I don't think I'll be fetching anyone until I at least gain some confidence.

No prescription lens but I do use glasses occasionally. So will keep an eye out when using pinlock systems. And with regards to rain, I think I'll hold off riding in the rain at least until I get my 'feet wet' getting some actual riding experience... hahah

How big of a jump was it when you moved up from the 250 to 650? I mean obviously the weight and power, but did it take you long to adjust? And for bikes to queue behind cars, how did you overcome that fear to start filtering between traffic?

Curious though, why ride then 250 when you have the 650? Hahah, wouldn't the whole reason for upgrading is so you can move up?

i love this bike. Mind to share how much you have bought? Is it hard to find the spare part as I read many people’s complaining the honda parts availability is a mess now.

No harm asking the shop to fix the pinlock then test it out and if there is a distraction can always ask them to remove it again before you leave. Always happens in darker environment with bright lights but if seldom ride at night then should be safe.

That is a good idea but sooner or later will be riding in rain especially when you are caught off guard in the middle of commute

It's more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow.

That aside. Smaller lighter bike is just much easier to filter and cilok around KL traffic. Plus for the commute, you are not planning to hit big speeds anyway so a more efficient bike is welcome.

As for filtering. It's just like jumping into a cold swimming pool. You just have to decide to go through with it. KL drivers are used to bikes filtering so usually they will give you a wide berth. Smaller towns and city not so much...especially for big bikes. Simple matter of fact is, if you don't feel comfortable or safe filtering, just don't. Once you get more riding skill and confidence, it will come naturally...just as long you remember a big bike is a lot wider than a kapchai, especially if you have panniers sticking out beyond your handlebars.

As for rain riding. I usually just ride through it with or without rain gear. Just bring speeds down, stay off painted lines, allow for more braking distance... Standard stuff. But get a helmet with a pinlock.

This post has been edited by jaycee1: Oct 18 2024, 09:12 AM

And also the countless potholes and road bumps within the city. It just occured to me that it must be amazing to ride a scrambler within a city, you fly through potholes and tall bumps like they don't exist, and you ride through curbs and dividers of reasonable heights to make illegal U-turns, damn, must be fun af.

This post has been edited by JustForFun: Oct 18 2024, 10:16 AM

I'm still in the process of breaking in the 650 and its an inline 4, not much low end torque but it is noticeably slightly more powerful than the single cylinder 250 during acceleration from a complete stop. can't give any comparison with a MT07 which has shitloads of low end torque. after a couple of rides, i am getting used to it, but there are things i won't do what i normally do on the 250 while riding in heavy/standstill traffic due to its weight. the 250 is far more forgiving compared to a 200 kg bike. I am able to hold the bike upright for mistakes i made due to it being lightweight and its a definite fall if its done on the 650 and its mistakes that i feel can only learn from experience( esp slow speed manuever/parking/u turn on slopes) , its not taught in institutes .

for getting rid of the fear of filtering between traffic. i only ride during weekends when there's not that many cars around and crazy kapchais speeding. and also practice slow speed manuevers especially a straight line at slow speed till i know i am ready to give it a go and it will progress naturally and the fear will eventually go away. just lots of practice.

just to share with you how i finally decided to start off with a 250 instead of a 650 is during my first lesson on the ER6N, everything was going well and i thought a 650 should be manageable for someone like me with 0 experience in riding a bike until i had a fall, front wheel was slightly turned and i grabbed the front brake to stop at very slow speed and down the bike went with no chance of holding the bike up due to its weight. that incident made me change my mind.

my commute is not on a highway where the lanes are alot wider than normal roads, my route is jalan gasing and old klang road and its always bumper to bumper/standstill traffic during peak hours and the distance between cars are small compared to filtering on a highway. the 250 is alot more easier to filter and cutting across from one side to another in a stand still traffic( doing a sharp 90 degree turn) . on the 650 i would imagine if i made a mistake i would have ended up landing on the car's front bonnet or the rear. its still doable but its just too much work for that plus with impatient kapchais queueing up behind you will only make things worse. will be using the 650 for weekend / long distance rides only

I bought it brand new ard 24K, can't remember the exact figure. yes they were having issues with bringing in bikes and spare parts for 2 years for reasons that we do not know. but since the beginning of this year everything has resumed as normal. for spare parts you can also contact a seller(he's in the whatsapp group as well) that assist in bringing in original parts from thailand should you not want to purchase it from bigwing.

if you're interested in 2nd unit, the market price right now is around 10-12K and you still can nego with them. you can also join the whatsapp group for this bike to know more. So far i have yet to see anyone complaining about the bike and there's one rider who has rode it for > 100,000km with no issues

Gotta respect you for riding through Old Klang road, with a sportbike that has less turning radius no less. Tried it a couple of times and decided it's too dangerous for me, the stupid road design forces cars to merge left and right and during peak hours, and that's too dangerous for riders. By the way, does the police saman riders using the bus lane there during morning rush hours?

Btw, I think people have this false impression that filtering traffic is just going one straight line, but a lot of times you will come to these choke points where some cars are close to each other but not exactly parallel, so you'll have to flick your bike left and right fast to avoid knocking people's side mirror off. 200KG of metal will do you no good in such situation, and you better pray that the long queue of kapchais behind you are patient enough to not go crazy on their horns if you're stuck.

I’m considering 2nd MT25, CB250 or new gixxer. 3 of them more or less the same price. Occasionally looking 2nd Z650 as well. And yeah, last i also looking 2nd hand d400 as many sifu recommended here cheap to disposable.

Let me guess, your 650 is CB650R?

His bike is CB250, not CBR 250. Is a naked bike.

filtering between traffic was one of my concern riding a bike, since I dont have the experience. zero.

So i start when I'm still L, with knee guard and jacket. haha. This is how I build my confidence:

-ride during low peak hours. que behind car first and wait until its clear to try lane filtering to the front. Its ok to waddle in between car if not confident can fit through.
-gain confidence to ride in high traffic. (use federal to travel from bukit raja to damansara, use bike lane. get the feel of traffic rush)
-force myself to ride in peak hour. (nkve bukit raja to damansara/kota damansara, school area)
-DASH has good curve road and not much traffic, can practice how to handle big bike during high speed corner.

People tend to be forgiving with L sticker. I stalled numerous time at traffic light. Just dont panic and remain calm.

Alright, I'm going for my Undang lecture and all this Sat. Hopefully it all goes well.

Once that is done, I'm going to start my lessons as soon as possible and also take on a 3rd party riding lesson just to get myself a bit more acquainted riding a bike. And of course, to get myself a starter bike (Dominar) to practice on.

In the initial month, I'm thinking of just riding around my housing area getting used to controls and trying slow speed maneuvers. Need to build that confidence before going on the road coz traffic on Federal highway is no joke and hearing horror stories about the bike lane there isn't confidence inspiring either. I'll make sure to stick the "L" Sticker loud and proud and keep fingers crossed people will be more understanding on the road.

I've also been hearing people saying I should get a half-face helmet instead of a full-face as a newbie just to give me a bit more vision riding the bike. Thoughts on this, kawans?

This post has been edited by JPlaSMaY666: Oct 22 2024, 08:22 AM

Accidents don't discriminate newbies or experienced riders. A full face is always your best protection. I have a jet helmet for riding around in the city as it affords a better view out but it is surely more risky riding around with this.

This post has been edited by lowpro: Oct 22 2024, 08:27 AM

I ride my first bike Honda Wave dash 110 with full face Givi helmet lol

practice safely, and don't try to tahan bike from falling with your body parts

federal highway is not that scary, just when joining that bike lane

you need to control the clutch and throttle, if not going to stalled

U r dem lucky motogp carnival is just less than 2weeks away. Must visit for u since u hvn°t bought anything yet.
Many diff brand helmet for u to compare n choose, etc.
U dont need tickets to enter the carnival area.
3 days fri to sun!

Yea, I don't think me being 75+ kg will be able to hold back a falling 180++kg bike from falling..

See quite a lot of motorcyclist filtering at breakneck speeds though which kinda makes me anxious about riding but I suppose that's something that I will overcome with time and experience.

Oh yea, I'm no stranger to clutches as I daily drive a Manual Vehicle. Would take some getting used to on the clutch bike but I'll manage. I still remember my first time driving on the road after getting my license and I was stopped at a traffic light on a slope. FUH, the fear and anxiety was real especially when you have drivers who press the horn the moment light turns green. Lols, reaction time faster than 'F1 drivers'...

Nice! Might just go take a look and get some essentials...mainly the helmet and jacket. Hope they got people there who can help with helmet fittings as I would like to try stuff out.

most of the time rider went for what they think they like and end up hating the bike, to me get something that is beginner friendly bike for a starter that you have no financial issue getting rid of it later.

majority of the issue owning at first is learning how big bike physics works like cornering, torque/throttle management, either you go big and learn it on the track or get the experience on the b-road. Reminder that it only takes 60km/h impact to 90% kill you (varies depending on angle, height, which body parts, etc)

as for riding gears, those who own big bikes eventually would own multiple version of it, example like helmet. For starter get a value for money gears like KYT or a decent daily mesh jacket, jeans with knee padding and a glove

for bike choice is up to you, but i do prefer for daily rider to go for a 2 cylinder naked bike, budget wise dominar d400 will do

The best thing about MT07 is the weight, just like riding at 250cc bike. I just bought MT07 this year.

I left riding bike for about 10 years, they i bought kapcai RS150 for 2 years, MT15 for a year to learn the big bike-style then now MT07.. Yes the torque is very pulling but it not scary at all.. the linear range at bottom quite large when riding around town to cilok.. i found mt07 is more easy to cilok than MT15..

I have my MT15 for sale if you want haha

more notes : i did survey 400ish bike like new triumph speed 400/400x both are nice but i dont dare to take due to brand and parts.. dominar/z650 bike heavy for daily and i dont like kawa weight distribution at the front, but this one better stability at high speed..

This post has been edited by mytaffeta: Oct 23 2024, 01:08 PM