- Thanks to Hao

The old thread is here
Gerbils Hut V5, I wont bite you, I wont stink either!

General Information of Mongolian Gerbils:

The Mongolian Gerbil (Meriones unguiculatus) is widely kept as pets. They come in a variety of colours, which makes them stand out from their close cousin, the common brown rat. Gerbils are very friendly, sociable, intelligent, entertaining, lively, and curious animals. They rarely bite and are almost odourless. Mongolian gerbils make excellent pets for they are diurnal, meaning they are active during the day, taking short naps and snoozes in between play.

One important fact to know,
You CANNOT pull their tails or it will come off. No, gerbils are not lizards, they come off coz their tails have very sensitive nerves and skin, pulling hard can detached the bone and tear the skin, resulting in the lost of a tail.

Origin


Gerbils in captivity make great beginner pets. They rarely bite at all, have little to no odour and are economical to keep in the long run. Once a while, gerbils can get curious so they do tend to nip and test their surroundings. Nipping is normally not painful, only bites are painful and sometimes bloody but there is no need to be scared of gerbils for they rarely bite.

Single or a Pair?
By nature, gerbils are social creatures, meaning the should never be kept as single animals. Gerbils that live alone have nothing to do, no aim in life and they will just go on eating and sleeping, becoming overweight and depressed, and will be destructive by chewing on everything they find, dig at the tank's corners the whole day without stop, show nervousness and other unhealthy activities. This is why WE RECOMMEND to get gerbils in pairs. Gerbils are colony animals. They need to feel safe and secure in a family. It is delightful to see gerbils in a pair or a small clan. They will groom each other, play wrestling, sleep together and eat together. When in a bigger group say more than 2 gerbils, they will set their own Hierarchy, having a dominant gerbil doing most of the activities first, then followed by the rest. The dominant gerbil will then put everyone in place and make sure that every gerbil knows his or her place in the clan.

Gerbil Behaviour:


How to keep gerbils?
There are many caresheets available on the Internet for research, so do read up as this is just a basic guide.

Gerbils do not do well in cages; therefore the best housing for gerbils is an aquarium or tank. The housing needs are quite different from hamsters and other rodent pets.

Important stuff to have before getting a gerbil:

1.5ft Aquarium with lid- you can get plastic or glass, plastic is easier to clean. The bigger, the better. (rm30 to rm40 for plastic) DO NOT CAGE THEM! Examples:



Hamster staple food- A good basic staple would be Habitrail Staple, but the best in the market that gives very good results would be Prestige and Harry Hamster. Only these 2 brands will give the best nutrition and variety to a gerbil's diet.

Treats- Wooden chews, peanuts, dog biscuits and dried stale bread are great treats.

Water bottle- They need a bottle but if you don't want them to tear the bottle up, searh the internet for tips on making a bottle guard or cage. Gerbils do not need much water if you feed them fruits and vege often but it is still very important to attach a bottle with fresh water for the gerbils.

Vege and fruits- Important to have in their diet. Give mustard greens(Sawi/Choy Sum), apple, carrots, pear, french beans, lettuce. PUMPKIN makes an excellent treat!!! It deworms the intestines as well.

Toys- Gerbils love wooden stuff to chew, cardboard box to chew and glass cups and small clay flower pots to play in. Do not buy plastic toys coz they will chew them and you will waste your money. Plastic can also be dangerous when eaten.

Hide Box- Gerbils like to sleep in hide boxes. You can DIY one from an old coconut shell, buy a wooden one or plainly make one out from wooden ice cream sticks and PVA glue. Clay or glass Aroma burners work very well but make sure you buy 1 that can fit a gerbil inside.

Wood Shavings and Wood Chips- No pine or cedar, please use aspen shavings or chipsi wood shavings. Pine and Cedar will cause breathing problems and watery eyes. Wood Chips are a good substitute if you can't find proper wood shavings.

Timothy Hay- Gerbils love hay. They chew it, build nest with it and sleep in it.

Alfalfa Hay- High in protein and is still good for gerbils to nibble and chew and make their nest.

Sand Bath- When your gerbil's fur looks ruffled and dull, give them a sand bath. You can get this cleaning sand that is for hamsters, works well and will make a gerbil look all velvety and clean looking. Recommended brands are Sluis, Delikate Snowy bathing sand, Charlie Chinchilla bathing sand.

Bedding Hay/Straw- You can try Russel Hay or Sluis Comfort Hay. These hay are used to build nest... cheaper than Timothy and Alfalfa hay.... and smells nice too.

How about breeding?
Please see the link below... breeding is not easy as it will cost money and time and space. So think carefully before breeding. Also, it takes a lot of studying of the genetics to get the best colour quality from a pair. Some gerbils can only produce black and agouti pups.... so that is why the genetics have to be studied. Breeding needs a goal, to be a breeder one must never think of money but the goal of getting new colours or promoting the pet. If any information needed on breeding, PM Nezumitaro, jaswwp or me(crazymouse_yyh)

Important TIPS

Useful Websites:

http://www.sensi-media.com/gerbil/domestic.htm - thanks to Jaswwp

http://www.gerbils.co.uk/

http://www.abcgerbils.com/

http://www.agsgerbils.org/

http://www.petermaas.nl/gerbils/english.htm

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/e...bils/colors.htm

http://www.gerbilbreeding.com/gene.htm - thanks to Nezumitaro

http://home.wtal.de/ehr/gerbils/colors.htm

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Park/6961/index.html

This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: Apr 8 2008, 01:21 PM

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This post has been edited by nezumitaro: Jul 7 2009, 10:32 AM

1. How to DIY a water bottle hanger

One of the popular problems faced by gerbil owners is the issue of how to provide a source of water for gerbils. Although a dish can be used, but most of the time the gerbil will bury the dish in shavings, making the bedding wet. It is important for a gerbil to have water especially if it is pregnant or nursing. Gerbils have been known to reabsorb fetuses or even eat a pup to get the water it needs if water is not provided.

There are many types of bottles available on the market. If you are able to find a bottle with those suckers or those that stick to the tank wall then it is good, however sometimes the gerbils will chew the suckers or the water bottle itself.
If you have the type of bottle that points downwards, you can hang it from the tank cover, however if you have the normal type of bottle, the kind without a small hole at the top for you to hang wire through..you might have to make a bottle holder yourself.

Example:

Water bottle with no hole at the top provided.


Water bottle with hole provided at the top

2. How to make a split cage

Why need a split cage? Note that gerbils have very short memories and can forget their friends in 3 days or even less. If you have to seperate your gerbils because of breeding but wish to reintroduce them at a later date, you should use a split cage so that they can still see and smell each other. New gerbils can also be introduced in this way for a few days, so that there is less chance of fighting when you finally put them together. Remember that gerbils can fight to the death, dont think that they look so loving and tame to their friends, once they see an unknown gerbil they can fight viciously and cause very serious wounds. I'm speaking from experience here.



This is the simplest split cage you can make for a plastic tank. The sides are rubber hose split into half, the purpose is so that you can wedge the whole thing into the tank, and it wont move or slip. Remember that plastic tanks are wider at the top than at the bottom, so you have to take that into account when cutting and bending the wire mesh. Try to use metal wire mesh with small holes, with big holes the gerbils will keep on chewing at it, and hurt their noses. Make sure it is tall enough, gerbils can climb up the split and crawl through any small spaces at the top.
3. Alternative to tanks

Gerbils given birth and you want to seperate the dad from the mum? Or perhaps your gerbil has fallen sick and you want to seperate it from the other healthy ones temporarily. If you can't get a tank at short notice, you can use a storage box



This is just to give a general idea. Note that the top should be securely fastened, else the gerbil will escape. Usually I put the storage box lid on top covering half the wire, and something heavy on top, but more pegs should do the trick as well.



This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: Nov 5 2007, 08:22 PM

Color for Gerbil:




Babymoli


Split Cage:







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This post has been edited by nezumitaro: Jul 7 2009, 10:37 AM

small bottle design, put at the corner of tank, this one is for small tank.


this one is i put for the habitrail cover


this is the design for big bottle hanging on the corner of tank, a bit ugly design i think, but works for me.
see there is a like door like that in the lower part, that is to cover the lower part of the bottle from bite
coz b4 this i didnt put the cover up, then jus side cage only, end up they bite the lower part of bottles.

>>> this design is the one that use on below picture

see the white masking tape there, is the place where my gerbs bite it, got one small hole.
so i put masking tape on it then use uhu gam to glue on the side on the masking tape.
coz i duwan put the gam on the hole direct coz sacred later the gam suck inside the bottle.
if u carefully see on top of the bottle, there still got cage protect it, that is extra one, not from the original design.
this is to prevent from biting the top of the bottle, b4 this i got put also, but then jus cover a bit, now put almost cover the whole top


This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: Nov 5 2007, 08:23 PM

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Yay...... Congratulation on thread v6.....

Congratz on V6...

version 6 already...long time i am not active in this forum ma...already changes thread..

walao...congrats on ver6...will be posting new pics when i get new gerbs

Hey I have a question, can gerbils die of heart attack? Especially when old age? My siblings like to scare them by clapping and making them jump. They think it's funny.. blargh..

haha...bluheng my bro oso like to do that...everytime he do that he will sure get something flying 2 his head...i oso dunno la...but they kinda scared and terkejut by clapping...

walao ... v6 ady .... gongxi gongxi

Gerbil thread is really popular at LYN unlike other pet forums.

Congrats & hope gerbil community will grow!

Ok, did I miss anyone out in the contribution? If you guys got information, just post, I will adjust it for the 1st page yah. Heheheh.... and you guys can adjust your post too, add updates or whatever.

here is the video that my gerbs run on the wheels, a bit noisy there and low quality since i jus record with my phone.

Gerbils on DIY wheels

This post has been edited by zoejehuty: Nov 5 2007, 09:58 PM

eh why up there got one tank with only 1 gerbil? He sick ah? Nice wheel btw..

waww hun u very ging wor can change all the things lol!! hun put zoe diy wheel up also lah..

This post has been edited by nezumitaro: Nov 5 2007, 11:20 PM

ya lo, respect with hun skill, change all the thing, i was surprise seeing that...
blueheng > the one the the tank is male, that's the only male i have, all other tank is female, so cant mix lo.
the wheel now still on test, everything working, jus part of the silicon bitten off, but then now they like know that is for use, so they didnt bite any of it liao.

icic... hehe beta stage wheel. nice.. buy another male for that gerbil to play with lor.. see him so pity.. haha..

why must make a new thread when reach 2500 posts?

haha anyway.....why my gerbs like to smell each other's butt? so weird

check check is it their bro mah... heheh..
the 2 felas ok?

wan to get male one, but then me here cant get, everytime got also female.
since that time hun said she there got put up some adoption, then wait there lo.

congrate..

new thread already..

LOL..Because the forum said so? Nah, its because its going to get over crowded with too many post around so i guess its easier to manage to create a new thread..

Ah...V6 already. The community is growing really fast now. Congrats to everyone and one request :

More pictures...Yikes

check by smelling the butt? haha. yeah they are ok. here is some pics..


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Hahahaha.. Cute chubby fella. That fella so notty, trying to escape ar...

he just jump up, but not dare to jump down.

xenon koh, cute chubby notti fella..

haha.. i also have the kura-kura burner..

today I went to Superpets to see their gerbils.... err... their display gerbils kinda bad setup.

You know what bedding their use? Aquarium gravel!!!! Yes, that's right, those aquarium gravel that is like 0.5cm size.... pity, so hard and cannot dig to burrow. 2 gerbils in the display tank, with some driftwood and rocks.... kinda sad. I wonder how to absorb the pee and poo.... summore the way they clean.... bleh... I walk into the petshop, can faint.... the air is like cat litter and pee smell....

Then at the back got also a tank with agouti gerbils.... and WW, Syrians and Robos.... the Syrains are not as nice as those at Pet Shack or from Foo.... kinda thin. Their Robos look scruffy.... the WW don't look too good either.... but the price for a gerbil there is RM48!!!!

Also, beware, that petshop sure will hunt to buy gerbils from breeders.... called me and ask if I can supply or not... Dream on lah, I won't supply to petshops. I see the condition... sigh.. i won't go there anymore.

yeah thanks.....but is it too fat ad? he is way too chubby i guess.

bout the kura-kura burner, hehe got it from RM5 shop eh? cheap and practical.

where is Superpets??
i think we should ban it..

i bought the kura-kura from hinode shop..
agree.. cheep and practical..

Superpets is near pet shack, sunway mentari also.... well, I think the bad thing is the ventilation lah.... coz they seal up the whole shop for air cond, with all the cats.... and i mean MANY cats, the place smells like cat litter and pee. To the staff and owner, they are used to it so won't suspect got smell but to new comer.... can pengsan lah hahahah....

The tanks for the gerbils and hamsters are spacious.... but just the display set up makes me don't like them.

Not really lar. My sumos even chubby than yours. Foo's gerbils all can grow round round & nice to squeeze. ^^

squeeze? yeeerrrr ... wait u squeeze squeeze until the eyes pop out ...

oh, the superpets manage to find gerbils supplier adi ar..... I think they really know nothing about gerbils la, pity the gerbils.

some of my gerbs picture...

nice wall ???


nice companion... nice pillow there...

u r a good gal to become my pillow...


This post has been edited by zoejehuty: Nov 9 2007, 09:10 AM

lol hun u also visit the shop ah? i stay so near never can find my way to go lol.. i still don tknwo where is it

HAhaha... nice pictures of your gerbils.
I'm gonna get the adoption gerbils soon. Once with me, you can get them lah.

Ah? I ask Joan loh... that Friday I was at Pet Shack.... then I walk to superpets, wondering how nice they looked like coz I saw their website before and wanted to compare.... but sigh... sad sad place lah for the animals there. Sad for human also coz the smell and air... yucks hahahah.

thanks, once u get the adoption then u let me know lo...

oh like this no problem ah? hehe wait after i try to squeeze them and see

as orang tua-tua says..
"indah khabar dari rupa"..

hello ... anybody home?? all gerbs gone hibernating?

ya lo, seem like not much ppl here, hmm....

want to ask here..
why gerbils suddenly "hentak-hentak" their legs..

sometimes because of scared, maybe because u jus suddenly appear in front of them then they being shock...

i think it not the cause..
other reasons??

sometimes i just lay down, and they suddenly hentak legs..
macam kawat kaki pulak.. hehe..

thumping? I guess it's normal for gerbils to do that. They do it when they're excited or to alert others of danger. hahah.. so far i never see my 2 gerbils do that before though.

oo like that..
i always see mine doing that..
when one do that, others will keep quite..

waaa...long time didnt visit then V6 de.. cool

This post has been edited by -Abtic-: Nov 11 2007, 02:40 AM

haha.. yalor mmg pun gitu.. when one thumps the rest will be on alert to see why is their friend thumping cause it could be danger or something else interesting ma..

yalor yalor ... hun n foo also seem appear very little recently ... babymoli also ... where gone ar?

Recently i noticed some flees or ticks on my gerbils. Cause when i move them into the carrier tank so that i can change the bedding, i saw some small jumping bugs inside the carrier tank which is small and yellowish.

Then i decided to sun their hay.

Does sand bathing help in removing the ticks?

Or do i need some medication to remove them?

Thanks

lolz.. Recently busy with my work. Modules hit deadline.
Yup.Sun it would be killed them. Do sun your bedding as well.

hey nezumitaro.... i was curious how to make that coconut home for ur gerbil?
interesting here,can teach me?

hehe.. no one of us bother to make it.. we buy from petshops.


I just went to foo's house today.. walao.. got sports car.. lol.. and taro so ganas, scare my mom and sis. I miss my gerbils!!!

What you can do is buy a bottle of mite spray for birds and use it on gerbils. That's the safest. You sure jumping? Fleas are brown and got long back legs and looks like a bean shape.... ticks are like tear drop shape and also brown coloured and much bigger to see.

I think it is the bedding. Sun it. That's the bedding mites, kinda common in wood shavings. It is quite harmless, it only eats up rotten food... lives in soil so if you put the bedding near an entrance that is near grass or outdoors or even flower pot with soil, then the mites may have traveled from there.

Just go petshop buy lah. None of us make coconut homes for our gerbils unless you got a tool that can drill a nice round hole.

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UPDATES

I got hold of the gerbils for adoption.

How many you ask?

Hahahah.... about 30.... crazy crazy....

Anyway, they are open for adoptions.... and sorry, no colour mixing. Why? Coz got 2 colonies.... so to avoid fighting, only adoption of colony mates. They are adults so harder to pair up unless you have the patience to do split tank introduction.

There are 9 lilacs! All adults, males and females.

The other Colony consist of Blacks, Agoutis, a few Nutmegs and a few DEH, now this colony got age difference, from 2 months old to a year plus.

Anyway, will update in the adoption thread.

cool, so u get the adoption already...
thought last time said got a lot one, more than 30, but then 30 also a lot already...
anyway, i would like to adopt lilac, black and deh
u mean no colour mixing, is it each colour jus each colonies ?

Yah.... I think got more than 30... I never count, I know the lilacs got 9 and the other colony is alot.

Well, is better not to mix the colony.... but if you want, I see if can mix or not lah. You want males rite?

LOL.... I'm gonna disinfect them with detol bath later.... they have been living in very thick dirty bedding.... so better disinfect just to be safe. I will also deworm them if possible.

question question miss hun! how you disinfect them with detol? just help them take bath? And err.. deworm? Got deworm for rodents wan ah?

hmm, ya i want male, coz me here got 7 female and 1 male only
coz i now on planning to breed mah, now jus studying and also collecting colour lo... hehe...
if u cant mix them up then i will jus do it myself lo, duwan to trouble u much mah...
yalo, i also curious, how u do dettol bath and also deworm?

Dilute detol, then dip them in. Dry them with warm hair dryer loh hahaah.... I don't really bath gerbils but since the bedding was dirty, i scared got bacteria on them.... so better bath them before go to homes.

Deworm, I'm gonna ask a vet if can use puppy dewormer or not... if can't then will do what the vet do loh.

Yea, I'm kinda sure they are jumping cause when i try to put my hand near them, they jump away.

So i can spray the mite spray on the body expect the face right?

I'll try to buy it from Pet Safari this weekend when i get back

Ohhh... then in could be fleas.... they jump....

Anyway, yes. Do say you want a mite spray for birds.... if you find one for rabbits also can use. Birds may take a few sprays to actually kill the mites but it is safe if eaten coz birds would preen after each spray. Yups, no direct spraying on the face area.

Hmmm... what can cause the gerbils to nip alot??? My girls nip me and my bro alot lately...

Hmm... could be the scent of your soap or shampoo...

how much it is? so cute... planning to hv if it is not too expensive... and wat's the purpose of putting the hay inside the cage? it is for hygiene purpose or food? hehe... noob here and planning to hv gerbils too..



This post has been edited by acid_head: Nov 12 2007, 05:46 AM

The hay is to let them chew on for fiber and to help wear down their teeth. Crazymouse has some gerbils for adoption, why not a adopt a few? But probably got a bit of screening.

good morning Reanne, woke up so early? or hvnt sleep?haha...
icic...so i can get the hay from pet shop as well rite?

transferring my question from 'rat thread' into here to make it convenient... so the pine flakes will be better then wood flakes zoejehuty mentioned? what do u think?

Hahaa... Not yet sleep. Yea, you can get the hay from petshop. There are different types of hay. Got alfalfa, timothy, bermuda grass and barley & oats. Most common and inexpensive ones are timothy and alfalfa.

Personally I don't recommend pine shavings. A budget choice will be delikate shavings. Though we don't really know what wood is it, it doesn't smell strongly of pine.

yea.. me too not yet sleep... delikate shaving? wat's that? wat's the diff btw the wood shaving? sorry for asking alot noob questions.. haha

Delikate is the brand. Pine is toxic because of the chemical that gives it the pine smell. So if the shavings smell less of pine, means got less of these chemicals.

Wahahahaha~ NEW THREAD ALREADY!

oh icic... so coincidence i bought that brand, juz simply buy 1...now i know alr... thx alot reanne~!

Hahahahaha... That car her bro's one. Lol... Got scare by Taro ar??? You don't afraid of him then he'll never target you. Service him a while & he'll love you very much. Hahahahahaha...

haha taro ar, if anyone act scared he will bully them one, esp girls !

I wanna hug Taro.... hahaha....

Anyway, later I will be checking and sexing the gerbils.... goodness, so damn many gerbils.... food!!!!! Argh!!!!!30 gerbils will eat alot alot alot! Double my own feedings hahahah.... anyway, those that wanna adopt the gerbils, PM me.... got some condition to fill.

haha you can feed them raw vege and rice and bread too... I always give mine bread crusts coz my family doesnt like to eat it.

Hahah.. I'll stick with rice. Got plenty of brown rice.... Vegies...wow, my grocery bill go up liao hahah.

brown rice? can give them 2 ah? the masak or non masak one? hehehe....huhu...damn busy la now days...cannot spend time 2 reply2...hehehe...so hun,how are the girls??

Masak one loh... they don't really like the uncooked ones... well, I tried before on my gerbils....

Your girls ah, split cage loh... They can't get along well, the 2 older ones kept wanna fight with the younger ones.

wa...gado2 ka? wonder what will happened if i try 2 itroduce2 mine...hehehe..must take a longer time...huhuhu....

just get from petshop its made for bird. its clean enought to play


make sure u do it slow. don't kill ur gerbils.


Hun roti also price up ah!! ur pocket really will hv lubang. why not ask the fela to payt he food?

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Added on November 12, 2007, 1:38 pmlol everyone know taro is the big bully.. always target galsss lol!!

This post has been edited by nezumitaro: Nov 12 2007, 01:38 PM

haha, hun have a big time now lo... going to have a big big hole in the wallet already...
i going to adopt it anyway, keep update with the adoption.

Wuwuwuwu.... just counted..... 31 gerbils!!!!

Anyway, got 2 DEH, I'm gonna keep 1 heheheh... so one is a baby, just about 4 weeks old. So zoejehuty, you need to wait another 2 weeks before can take lah.

I don't even know which is the mom LOL.... So I will adopt out all the males.
There is 2 nutmegs.... then the rest all agouti and blacks.

The agoutis are really good looking.... the blacks.... got this black girl kinda cute. When I pick her up, she will put her 2 paws in her mouth... I dunno why. I'll get a pic once I get my camera. Funny but cute. She is not deform or anything, just would put her 2 paws in her mouth.

cool, got 31 gerbs there, hmm, no problem for me, coz i already planned that time only i get to kl
is there any spotted for the the rest, other than DEH?

Hahah... no spotted or pieds.... only got 1 DEH, 2 nutmegs and the rest Agoutis and Blacks available.... then also those 9 lilacs.

31 gerbils? my god...not lubang anymore...but much more bigger than lubang...wa....if i staying away from my parents sure help you 1 hun....sorry la...a tank only agouti oso should be challenging
hehehe

Hahaha... today just bought Rm5 worth of veggies for all the animals for adoption.... susah coz so many....

if im not mistaken 2 tanks right?? whoa....sian you hun...sure damn tight every tank

Heheh... give you a hint.... 1 tank got 9 gerbils.... and 1 tank got 22 gerbils....

9 for a 2 ft tank not so bad la....but 22? my god....sure pack like hell....where is the space for them 2 lepak2 and dig2?