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post May 8 2024, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(Daprind @ May 8 2024, 03:35 PM)
Now here is the problem when you say it's normal because the environment generalize it (classmate also consist of divorce parents).

In future, all these kids won't take marriage oath seriously. They can just sign the paper and divorce when they deem it fit.

Which makes me conclude that most of divorce case come from broken family background. their parents divorce, to them divorce is a "norm" too.

From my POV, I will never allow my child to have any romantic relationship with broken family kids. I nurture them well, end up become broken. what's the point then?
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I agree with your sentiment. But who am i to disallow my child to date person of his choice. I will have to trust my children choice la, after all they are the product of my genes coupled with my nurturing. On top of that i pray to god always that my children has good logical mind with great EQ. Fengshui is not my cup of tea so i havent done anything from than angle yet.

On the other hand many couple at home also scolding each other daily and fighting proxy war using the children, they remain married forever but deep down they hate each other to the core. This kind of couple the kids be better than kids from divorced couple? What i want to say is even non-divorced family also is not as good as it seems, probably worse. Your dotter may end up getting abused yet she don't dare to explore the divorce route because "my mummy said broken family don't deserve romantic relationship cos will break other ppl's kid worrrr".

World not so black and white leh.

btw. welcome back. lol

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post May 9 2024, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ May 8 2024, 04:12 PM)
I am happily married for 16 years and I think divorces are normal in society

One should not view it as taboo or a ‘problem’, I for one cannot understand why it should be frowned upon
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because your belief and principle starts from home.

if daddy keep beating mummy, its also okay to raise hand on future wife/ husband. If daddy keep gambling, also no problem once hit legal age enter Genting. It's all due to 'normal'.

root already spoilt, why still try luck?

QUOTE(jojolicia @ May 8 2024, 04:01 PM)
Do you mean broken family kid as in single parent?

How is having a relationship or even marrying a single parent child, gonna make your child end up become broken?

Care to share your view?
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QUOTE(gashout @ May 8 2024, 04:27 PM)
problem isn't everyone were young once. problem is you put 'death sentence' on all kids from divorced family.
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yeah i know i'm stereotyping. but come on, if there are plenty of perfect family out there, why must settle with broken one?

kids grown up from dysfunctional family, they tend to develop cynical feeling. How many parents send them for therapy to cure their traumatic experience?

i won't deny those that survive has very strong mental well being. but the others that don't?

even you go supermarket, are you gonna be okay with spoiled egg even its the last one? that is just material wise. now we are talking about partner you spend the rest of your life with.
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post May 9 2024, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ May 8 2024, 04:59 PM)
I agree with your sentiment. But who am i to disallow my child to date person of his choice. I will have to trust my children choice la, after all they are the product of my genes coupled with my nurturing. On top of that i pray to god always that my children has good logical mind with great EQ. Fengshui is not my cup of tea so i havent done anything from than angle yet.

On the other hand many couple at home also scolding each other daily and fighting proxy war using the children, they remain married forever but deep down they hate each other to the core. This kind of couple the kids be better than kids from divorced couple? What i want to say is even non-divorced family also is not as good as it seems, probably worse. Your dotter may end up getting abused yet she don't dare to explore the divorce route because "my mummy said broken family don't deserve romantic relationship cos will break other ppl's kid worrrr".

World not so black and white leh.

btw. welcome back. lol
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topkek la. stop saying that word. i was sus'ed cause of my face. to you, yes, remember me!

anyway back at it. you know he/she is trouble, yet you choose to go ahead dismissing all the negative probability. This is like no different when you meet zha nan/ zha ni, you still together in hoping you could change them?

you got 4. can la give your blessing with trial and error. kek. ayam just got the one and only. let me die in peace ok, don't make me keksim.

also its bullshit couple live together without argument. we are not in Disneyland ya.
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post May 9 2024, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ May 7 2024, 10:22 PM)
No opinion…. It’s a matter between 2 adult parties.

I have a pair of classmates, both doctors from Uni who got married, had kids, and now are separated but we still have both of them over for our Uni group gatherings…
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how old are the kids, if u dont mind sharing with us

sometimes I am afraid what will happened to these kids mental health, seeing their parents no longer together

I have seen some psychos in the past that came from broken family

the way they treat and manipulate ppl for attention is quite scary. since they lack of it.

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post May 9 2024, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 9 2024, 09:48 AM)
how old are the kids, if u dont mind sharing with us

sometimes I am afraid what will happened to these kids mental health, seeing their parents no longer together

I have seen some psychos in the past that came from broken family

the way they treat and manipulate ppl for attention is quite scary. since they lack of it.
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The saddest thing is the kids are both on the spectrum. One less so than the other. IINM one is 8 the other is 11.
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post May 9 2024, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ May 8 2024, 02:24 PM)
Wife was the chief breadwinner for nearly a decade, while I was doing my housemanship, medical officership, specialist exams, junior specialty positions etc.

I'm lucky she never walked out on me.

Now she's retired and I'm the only breadwinner...

... deswai I will also retire next year, so I don't have to support her hahaha.
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Ur in medical field bro.... key word is medical field.....ur wife is smart as she knows is fish on! (as in for the long term)..... lets just say if ur just a normal office worker..... things might be very different today.
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post May 9 2024, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(Afterburner1.0 @ May 9 2024, 09:52 AM)
Ur in medical field bro.... key word is medical field.....ur wife is smart as she knows is fish on! (as in for the long term)..... lets just say if ur just a normal office worker..... things might be very different today.
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It’s a fair point. But there were still a lot of uncertainties in those early years. She didn’t know if I’d pass my specialist exams - the pass rate is dismal, and even after that, she wouldn’t know if I’d be successful in private practice.

It’s a commitment she made as a wife - and same on my part, a commitment I made as a husband. In sickness and in health, for richer or poorer.
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QUOTE(hksgmy @ May 9 2024, 09:52 AM)
The saddest thing is the kids are both on the spectrum. One less so than the other. IINM one is 8 the other is 11.
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my goodness sad.gif
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post May 9 2024, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(Daprind @ May 8 2024, 03:35 PM)
Now here is the problem when you say it's normal because the environment generalize it (classmate also consist of divorce parents).

In future, all these kids won't take marriage oath seriously. They can just sign the paper and divorce when they deem it fit.

Which makes me conclude that most of divorce case come from broken family background. their parents divorce, to them divorce is a "norm" too.

From my POV, I will never allow my child to have any romantic relationship with broken family kids. I nurture them well, end up become broken. what's the point then?
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But children from broken family will love to be with ur children that is from a wholesome family.....most of the time is like that..... its a normal cycle....
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QUOTE(Daprind @ May 8 2024, 03:35 PM)
Now here is the problem when you say it's normal because the environment generalize it (classmate also consist of divorce parents).

In future, all these kids won't take marriage oath seriously. They can just sign the paper and divorce when they deem it fit.

Which makes me conclude that most of divorce case come from broken family background. their parents divorce, to them divorce is a "norm" too.

From my POV, I will never allow my child to have any romantic relationship with broken family kids. I nurture them well, end up become broken. what's the point then?
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QUOTE(Afterburner1.0 @ May 9 2024, 10:00 AM)
But children from broken family will love to be with ur children that is from a wholesome family.....most of the time is like that..... its a normal cycle....
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my POV
that's why we need to teach our kids the value of family right from the start
we never know what will happen to our journey in life but whatever time we have, we need to teach our kids good value in life

kids will observe what we do.even if we dont say it.they will imitate it indirectly.
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post May 9 2024, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(EmpireAnt @ May 8 2024, 08:49 AM)
hello there

i got divorced last december after 6 years of marriage. we were childhood friend and i've known her since i was 11 from an online game we used to play together. i am now 32 and she is 34.

1) at the point where i see there is no change of heart from my ex-wife after i tried to fix everything for almost a year

2) we did try to hold on for our son who is now 5yo. but some things are not fixable anymore.

3) Yes there will be lots changes in our life. But we keep the things between us only. We are now co-parenting and we took turn caring for him. usually i spend the
    week with him and he went to his mother on the next one.

4) Financially became unstable for me because previously we shared the bills together. So now it is 100% on me it hit me like a truck. One of the reason of my
  divorce is due to my inability to earn more and provide a better living condition to my family.

5) it felt bad so bad during the early days, when i had no one to talked to. i've had sleepless nights and all. now i started accepting it and it slowly calmed me down.
    currently i am staying at my friend house as he let me stay to finish the edah period. Although i am overstaying for a bit because i am fixing my old house.
My opinion: Divorce should not be a a bad thing to begin with. but we in Malaysia had always been a certain view on it. it could mean a fresh start or anything.
                  Sometimes, things just don't work out they way we expected it to be.
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So sorry to hear that bro. Hope you are strong to overcome this. I dont have the right words to say to you right now. May all be well soon with you.
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post May 9 2024, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(Evolynn @ May 8 2024, 04:37 PM)
want to share my story brief and short, not good in writing essay  laugh.gif

im a divorcee and just remarried not long ago

i married young age 21, cos pregnant. ex not working. i work alone to support the family. bought low cost property and move out from in law house.
ex changed became abusive and disrespect to me after he found job. tahan 8 yrs. cannot tahan any longer. divorce
i moved out from my own house, kid follow ex and MIL. and i rent far away, changed job and start all over again. every week met my kid bring go jalan.
(after several police report) because my ex refuse to let me see my kid.

met my current husb at new place. initially planning not to have kid cos i fobia already. YOLO
We stay in as couple for 9 years, never have big arguments, no shouting, we discuss and fix issue openly, we share chores, we share bills, we share hobby.
we share everything. and just recently i decide to open my heart for a family again. we got married recently and planning to have 1 kid only. haha

as for my gal, she grow up and we are like sister now  tongue.gif

my advice, not all divorce are bad.
no use to maintain a marriage if no love and respect for each other. it will just make the couple and kid to suffer more.
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Not many girls are willing to share bills and chores (esp when they know the guy's salary upfront), some girls are so afraid that their guy partner will take advantage of them (esp on chores) and they only do the bare minimum and expect to be loved n cared..... the guy partner is not blind.... we can normally see, and when we see u don't really have heart to take care of the house and turn it into a home..... its really a no go for most normal guys....( normal guys here means we r financially capable). If u dont really have heart to do chores so the guy will normally take over .... and that is how the distance will grow further.....

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post May 9 2024, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(Daprind @ May 9 2024, 09:34 AM)
because your belief and principle starts from home.

if daddy keep beating mummy, its also okay to raise hand on future wife/ husband. If daddy keep gambling, also no problem once hit legal age enter Genting. It's all due to 'normal'.

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Which part of "I am happily married for 16 years" did you not understand? Does it sound like I'm in an abusive marriage?

Being in an abusive marriage is not OK. That is why I find divorces should not be frowned upon and can be a solution. People divorce to escape bad relationships. Since you're pretty much against divorces, so you'd rather stay in a abusive relationship than being divorced? That makes you an oxymoron for being against abuses but not condoning divorces.

Are you from a broken family or abusive relationship? That could explain why your responses are highly emotional and hostile. Not surprised you just came back from sus.
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QUOTE(Afterburner1.0 @ May 9 2024, 10:13 AM)
Not many girls are willing to share bills and chores (esp when they know the guy's salary upfront), some girls are so afraid that their guy partner will take advantage of them (esp on chores) and they only do the bare minimum and expect to be loved n cared..... the guy partner is not blind.... we can normally see, and when we see u don't really have heart to take care of the house and turn it into a home..... its really a no go for most normal guys....( normal guys here means we r financially capable). If u dont really have heart to do chores so the guy will normally take over .... and that is how the distance will grow further.....
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we have been brainwashed that $ is everything these days. too much peer pressure around us, sometime we forget how to live like a decent human being.

i wanna add more but , perhaps later.
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post May 9 2024, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ May 9 2024, 10:15 AM)
Which part of "I am happily married for 16 years" did you not understand? Does it sound like I'm in an abusive marriage?

Being in an abusive marriage is not OK. That is why I find divorces should not be frowned upon and can be a solution. People divorce to escape bad relationships. Since you're pretty much against divorces, so you'd rather stay in a abusive relationship than being divorced? That makes you an oxymoron for being against abuses but not condoning divorces.

Are you from a broken family or abusive relationship? That could explain why your responses are highly emotional and hostile. Not surprised you just came back from sus.
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i think i have made it clear that the issue is you generalizing the divorce as normal in today's society. which part of my reply make you failed to see that?

bad relationship then why commit from the beginning? what happened during the screening process? why accident never wear protection? why don't approach counseling when thing doesn't work out? why only marry then everything start to surface?

you tak kan want marry just marry jer. not compatible still proceed to sign the paper, pressure or no choice?

that's why easy come, easy go. very convenient eh.

happy marriage for you, good. continue uphold it towards generation. truly appreciate it.

me from broken family/ abusive relationship when am very upfront towards it? lol dude. try harder okay.

and yes, i was sus'ed again for my face. woman and jealousy tiada berpisah.
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post May 9 2024, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(Daprind @ May 9 2024, 11:02 AM)
i think i have made it clear that the issue is you generalizing the divorce as normal in today's society. which part of my reply make you failed to see that?

bad relationship then why commit from the beginning? what happened during the screening process? why accident never wear protection? why don't approach counseling when thing doesn't work out? why only marry then everything start to surface?

you tak kan want marry just marry jer. not compatible still proceed to sign the paper, pressure or no choice?

that's why easy come, easy go. very convenient eh.

happy marriage for you, good. continue uphold it towards generation. truly appreciate it.

me from broken family/ abusive relationship when am very upfront towards it? lol dude. try harder okay.

and yes, i was sus'ed again for my face. woman and jealousy tiada berpisah.
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The thing is, a divorce IS a normal occurrence in today's society. Just look around you. Even kids see that - wasn't that point made clear?

It is no longer taboo, it's something people are no longer afraid to speak or share about. It is becoming more acceptable. And why shouldn't it be?

Nobody said marriage is easy, and people don't simply divorce at their convenience like what you are trying to make it out to be. I am sure people have worked through a lot of things to save their marriage, but for some divorce is the end result.

Good that you are not from an abusive family....so why then so angry?



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post May 9 2024, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ May 9 2024, 11:22 AM)
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Good that you are not from an abusive family....so why then so angry?
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Genuine question from fellow enthusiast angler. What bait do you use that is so effective?

Would love to learn from a true master.
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QUOTE(hksgmy @ May 9 2024, 11:40 AM)
Genuine question from fellow enthusiast angler. What bait do you use that is so effective?

Would love to learn from a true master.
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U talking about real fishing or flame baiting? Lol.
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post May 9 2024, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ May 9 2024, 11:53 AM)
U talking about real fishing or flame baiting? Lol.
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Those who know, know hehehehe

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ May 9 2024, 11:40 AM)
Genuine question from fellow enthusiast angler. What bait do you use that is so effective?

Would love to learn from a true master.
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dont think I can help much, I hardly ever bait in serious /k

the other /k though ... biggrin.gif

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