Can share which solar provider you are using and which to avoid and the pricing you have gotten?

Any problem with roof leaking?

So far got quotation from gspark for 6.9kwp/5kwac for RM22899.

Mine by Gme greentech 12.1kwp around 37k

Need give inverter/panels model only will know if it's worthwhile! So far everything I heard about them is negative! But no first hand experience so could be competitors bad mouthing them.

Very good pricing

Mine is sungrow inverter and panel , 580w x 21

6.34kWp/5kWac
Trina panels, Huawei hybrid 3 phase inverter

Got it for RM19800 during promo. Should be installing next month. Just signed the NEM forms on Tuesday.

parking..

upgrading single phase to 3 phase and also doing roof re-waterproof to prep for solar as well

got the model no for huawei?

Sun2000 5KTL-m1

Ppl will say battery expensive
Ppl will say need to use proprietary Huawei battery or only those approved by Huawei so it’s expensive

My answer is very simple
IF the price is the same or just very slightly more, for the same 5kWac of course I take the hybrid inverter

Why? I have the OPTION available to me to easily plug in a DC battery. Which incurs less setup cost versus your AC coupled battery. Not to mention less losses since it’s DC to DC battery.

Battery expensive is not relevant. I have the option to do it when it’s cheaper in the future. Even if AC battery is cheaper in the future you need to incur additional setup and commissioning cost for the AC coupled battery setup. So nett nett I will still come ahead with less hassle.

7 UNITS OF 580w CANADIAN SOLAR PANEL & 1 UNIT SUNGROW INVERTER SG5RT

RM15,000 FOR 4.06 kwp



10 days of usage.

This post has been edited by rapple: May 18 2024, 11:57 AM

Planning to install solar panel too
Just wondering
As my new house require to install ACP awning, can just install solar panel as awning, as the ACP awning quoted rm50k for the whole semi-d house

Yes, solar carport or something similar!

This post has been edited by adamw: May 18 2024, 10:12 PM

get a low frequency inverter if you have the options..
power mosfet burnouts is the archillis heel of most inverters here.. hf ones

logically possible. but why don't you ask the solar installers and share...

how to know if its low freq or hi freq?

Why still use off grid ?

Hybrid can be on grid, his is for NEM Rakyat, it's on grid with an option to add battery later.

decided to go with pathgreen. just signed letter of appointment last friday. will see how it goes.

That will be after 10years , by that time if want to off grid will be better to change new inverter

mind to share the provider?

Yeah.. got the solaris email ytd. Now waiting tnb to pay the rebate back.

When did you apply?

Congratulation, RM4k off the price

I don’t want to be off grid. I want to be on grid with battery so can use my own power after NEM expires.

Who changes inverter after 10 years lol. If it’s not faulty and nothing wrong why want to incur cost? 10 years time battery cost would have come down, and just buy a Huawei battery, plug and play and I am ready to rock.

My payback period for solar system is <5 years. After that savings for another 6 years would give me sufficient returns to buy the battery, just in time for NEM expiry.

There is absolutely no reason to buy a normal string inverter over a hybrid Huawei inverter if it costs the same. If the hybrid inverter is slightly more, just pay it. After all Huawei is one of the better China inverters out there.

Anyhow the only reason I pull the trigger now is because solar systems have dropped significantly in price. Plus the Solaris RM4k rebate lowers the total cost. And the company offers 0% credit card installment, which is bit more than my TNB bill. No brainer for me to pull the trigger.

After paid up it is “free” electricity.

PM me your contact I’ll hook you up.

This post has been edited by Jason: May 30 2024, 02:04 AM

16 May - got the NEM cert and submit to TNB on the same day.
20 May - receive NEM welcome letter from TNB
28 May - message tnb on FB to check on Solaris status and then get email after that.

No need wait for first TNB bill after NEM installed?

Actually regardless of on grid or off grid, one can still install and use own battery. The only special thing about NEM is that the meter and electric flows both way with the condition that TnB is on which let us offset (or sell) the excess electricity generated.

weather or not to change inverter when 10 years is up or to purchase battery supported inverter straight up will be based on personal preference though, nobody can tell, 10 years on how is the condition of the inverter. (one side is banking on that inverter continue to work and then there is no additional cost to support battery while the other is assuming that inverter may become spoilt or less efficient in 10 years and just about right time to change new onew.)

But regardless, definitely it is free electricity once ROI is mature in 5 to 6 years time

Tnb did the cut off on 19th Jun.

20th Jun onwards is NEM billing. Waiting for next month bill to see how much credit I have.

Sorry, can I ask about this solaris rebate.
So the solaris is bank into your TnB account? it is not offset as payment when you install your solar?

It's pay to your bank account by tnb.

U got to pay the solar providers then u claim back from tnb through solaris.

VaSolar, 5.82kWp Jinko n-type panels with Huawei Hybrid Inverter. 20k with option for 5 years 0% interest payment 🤔

Oh.. I see, so it is bank to your bank account. Then it is good.
I thought it is deposit into TnB account as advance credit... then that is not good.

Thank you for the clarification.

Hi Sifu,

can help to see if this package good?

Alpha Solar HOME (NEM RAKYAT)
Standard 7.26 kWp (12 panels)
LONGI PV PANEL: 15 yrs
Product warranty / 30 Yrs Performance warranty
SAJ/Sofar/INVT STRING warranty: 10 Yrs
Solar PV mounting Structure: 10 Yrs Warranty
Workmanship Warranty(DLP): 3 Yrs
Insurance : 2 Yrs
Pv Cleaning : 2 Yr
Average Monthly Generation(Year1):8712 kWh
Average Monthly Bill Saving: RM 415

cash term :
🚩MYR 21,600( Discount Price )

Hmm... you sure that they quote you a 7.26 kw system can provide average monthly bill savings of RM415?
Sound a bit too much on the high side.
Based on my understanding, monthly bill saving should be around RM250 to RM350, so average should be RM300.
Maybe you can ask the seller to show you realtime data log of user installing their system and from previous month, you can gauge a better understanding.

Better get exact details, inverter spec? Longi 605W model no? BTW, your house 3 or single phase?

This post has been edited by adamw: May 31 2024, 01:14 PM

Panel is okay. But I would avoid those inverters like the plague.

Good brands for inverter from China includes Goodwe, Solis, Sungrow and Huawei.

Did you have bad experience with SAJ/Sofar/INVT?

Search, Australia forums and groups are a good resource.

Learn from other people’s mistake. Don’t need to have bad experience in everything lol. We have abundance of option in Malaysia and Solis & Goodwe + Huawei are solid choices.

In any case, that’s just my personal opinion that I would avoid it like the plague. I would avoid Peugeot cars too. But anyone can go ahead and buy with their money.

Great!

found one with Solis Inverter and Canadian Panel, but Huawei Inverter need topup RM2K

Nice, this seems new model from Solis, 2 MPPT can support 16A each if I read their specifications correctly!



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That's a single phase inverter. Is your household supply single phase or 3 phase? If 3 phase, always best to choose 3 phase inverter.
I got 6.37kWp with Huawei 3 phase 5kW hybrid inverter for about the same price. Which is why I say for the same price & kWp, take the Huawei inverter.

Just checked..
NEM submission 17th May, approval 28th May. Not bad. Now waiting to queue for installation date.

after discuss with the agent i upgrade to 14 panel for 8,26kWp and with Solis 3phase inverter with 5yrs 0% installment. Whole system RM27K.

Price ok?

Ask for Solis brochure. Cannot seems to find your model ending with S. Because there's a newer model that can accept higher current

Hi guys,

I’ve got a quotation from solaroo and the parts they gave are

Solar modules: Longi Solar
Inverters: Hoymiles Micro-inverter HMS-1800

Want to ask if Hoymiles inverter any good? As compared to Huawei’s fusion solar?

Pretty noob at this.

Thanks!

Ask them if they willing to let you used S-miles app. Already many complaints on them previously regarding this issue!

I think the app they are using is Solaroo’s own mobile app. Any idea how bad it is for this app?

Useless app from what their customer feedback. Reason for micro inverter is can see individual panels generations but their app don't have this feature.

Hi guys,

I got another quotation from Alpha Solar as below:

System Size: 7.3 kWp
Energy Generation (Year 1) (kWh): 8,784
Average Monthly TNB Bill Saving: RM 419
Recommended for current TNB Bill Amount: RM 498
Savings and Financial Analysis
Solar promotion price: RM 19,750 (Cash/Credit Card)
Solar promotion price: RM 20,935 (EPP 36 months)
Solar promotion price: RM 21,429 (EPP 60 months)
Payback Period (Year): 3.1
Simple 10 Year Saving: RM 50,329
Simple 20 Year Saving: RM 100,658
Solar PV Panel
Solar PV Panel: Longi
Solar PV Model: LR7-72HGD 610M
Quantity: 12
Product Warranty: 15 years
Power Performance Warranty: 30 years
Inverter
Inverter: SAJ-Sofar-INVT
Model: R5-6K-S2-15
Quantity: 1
Warranty: 10 years

Change to Huawei Inverter add 3k

From what I have survey so far, the pricing seems to be the cheapest. Any comments here from the specs?

Maybe should consider a slightly larger system? The saving is rather optimistically high. Or if possible ask the person to share system log data of those that have install similar system and check if can generate that much savings. The estimated sun hour is 3.3, but I think maybe 3 is more realistic.
8784/365 day/7.3kwp = 3.3
I am guessing you are using close to 1000 kwh per month? Just my opinion, I think 14 Panel of about 8.5 KWp system maybe better with higher capacity inverter as well.

I think i’m ok so far using circa 7+ kwp system since my monthly bill is around 300 only. But yeah I wonder if Longi’s panel is able to generate 610w per panel compared to other brands like Trina, Jinko where its rates at 590w per panel?

I see, if bill of around 300, then is OK with such capacity.

Cause from your earlier quotation is:

Average Monthly TNB Bill Saving: RM 419
Recommended for current TNB Bill Amount: RM 498

As for the panel, I think it is quite reliable, will have same variation but should be in within range. Besides Peak sun hour is a variable itself to begin with so it is OK.

Just note that the sales agent who quote you RM419 savings for a 7+ kwp system is slightly too optimistic and I think does not reflect real world scenario.

The panels are fine, I would however opt for a better inverter if it was my system. A GoodWe, Huawei or Solis. Also, my vendor don't charge me extra for EPP 36 months, so if comparing the system of the same size + Huawei 3 phase hybrid inverter and 36 months EPP... nope, your quotation is not the cheapest, just FYI.

Finally found a company that provides Solar Panel as replacement for Awning.
As my house require awning to shield the rain and sun on the 1st floor, was thinking to save cost by having solar panel as electricity generator and sun/rain shield. And they quoted me this:

8.265 KWP Grid-Tied Solar System

1. 182mm 144cells 435W Half Cell 19Unit RM620.00
Total RM11,780.00
- Brand : Trina Solar
- Model : TSM-NEG9R.28_435W
- Nominal Maximum Power (Pmax) : 435W
- Optimum Operating Voltage (Vmp) : 42V
- Optimum Operating Current (Imp) : 10.36Amp
- PV Array : 19 x 435W =8.265 KW


2. Inverter 15KW 3 Phase 1 Unit
Total RM3,680.00
- Brand : Think Power
- Rated Power : 15KW
- Max DC Power : 22.5KW
- Maximum PV Array Open Circuit Voltage :1000VDC
- MPPT Range @ Operating Voltage : 250 - 850VDC
- MPPT Tracker : 2 / 3 String

3. Aluminium Profile 42 Unit RM65.00
Total RM2,730.00
- Price : Mtr/unit
- Without Anodizing

4. Metal Structure
Total RM5,300.00
- MS Sq Pipe 4"x4" x 6mtr (Thk 3.0 mm) 3
- MS Rec Pipe 3"x6" x 6mtr (Thk 3mm) 4
- MS Sq Pipe 3"x3" x 6mtr (Thk 2.0 mm) 3
- MS Footing plate & M20 Wallplug 5
- Protecting cover ( leakproof) 1
- Heavy duty paint ( primer + top coat) 1
- Miscellaneous (Silicone glue & others) 1
- Remarks: Exclude drainage

5. Labour Cost
Total RM5,500.00
- Labour + tools + fastener + bracket

6. Wiring from Solar Panel to Inverter & Electrical Cabinet
Total RM3,500.00
- Include all wires &
- Enclosure box
- Electrical components
- Wires & cable

7. miscellaneous Charges
Total RM4,200.00
- Transportation
- Documentation
- Insurance covered

Grand Total :RM 36,690.00

Are the specs of the panel and inverter OK?
Just started learning about solar panel

Quoted by Epsilon?

also need to know whats the awning covered size

Started your solar project already?

ya planning now. when u free bos. i come see u

Yes you are right
Wondering how you can guess it correctly

I have asked many solar panel suppliers
And many said can't support as awning due to the weight of the panel
Except this Epsilon
So still skeptical if it really works

Only Epsilon & me selling thinkpower for now!
Ask for a shop drawing of the awning. I remember there was another vendor offering solar as awning but just cannot remembered whom!

This post has been edited by adamw: Jun 21 2024, 07:59 PM

System Size: 10.44 kWp
Energy Generation (Year 1) (kWh): 13,842
Average Monthly TNB Bill Saving: RM 584
Recommended for current TNB Bill Amount: RM 600


Solar promotion price: RM 37,578 (EPP 60 months)
Payback Period (Year):5.4
Simple 10 Year Saving: RM 34,252

Solar PV Panel
Solar PV Panel: Longi LR5-72HTH-580M
15 years prod warranty and 25 years linear power output warranty
Solar PV Model: Solar PV Panel HPBC tech SUN 2000 -10KTL-M1 (10 years warranty)
Quantity: 18



Gotten Quotation on this... any comment and feedback?

This post has been edited by limyusiong: Jun 22 2024, 07:23 PM

I've been with SolarEco for about a year now and they've been pretty solid. No issues with my roof leaking since the installation. As for pricing, it's around RM22,000 for a similar setup. Can't speak for gspark though, haven't dealt with them.

Gotten another quota:



EPP price of RM 31,800


If comparing both, what is the diff btw Solar PV Panel? Longi vs Jinko Panel? Any advice?

Just different brand. To me not so important. The first quotation you share don't have inverter brand and capacity... but assuming is similar capacity. So my opinion is just get the cheaper one will do.

As for the average saving, it is reported abit on the high side... but that is just the general information in the quotation. Real live usage, the sun hour is about 3 per day, so monthly saving should be around RM480. But on another case, you didn't need your solar to cover 100% of your usage because the first 300 units are cheap.

Not sure if you noticed your own quotation. Despite both using the Huawei hybrid inverter, the VASOLAR one is 8kW and the earlier one is 10kW. Given the total system size the VASOLAR one is more optimised. Given the price difference and similar kWp output, VASOLAR is a no brainer IMO. At RM2994/kWp with EPP, very competitive pricing!


lol what you talking. the inverter make all the difference. panels have matured so much and between major manufacturers performance numbers are very similar. inverters on the other hand lead a hard life and fail more so than panels.

And his first quotation stated SUN2000 which is the Huawei hybrid inverter.

did u specified what PV panel and inverter brand you want? because they quoted me sunpower PV + sungrow inverter, 8.8kwp is 30k

QUite expensive for this price and capacity and system type.

Anyone has experience or have friends experience with Emit Solar by TIME? Their model seems like a no brainer. No worries about maintenance and warranty during the contract period. Any thoughts?

The saving is minuscule compared to getting solar system yourself if you are capable of financing it.

They charge a certain rate for their system production. Usually this is not suitable for small homes. If very big usage like few thousands kWh, then can consider this. But it will save you the most 10-20% of the current bill.

OH... I failed to read between lines... it should not be label as solar PV model in the description though

low risk, no up front payment, low return lo... it all depend on how much you are wiling to put up front

Nope. I didnt specify what panel and inverter. I just asked for their quick default quotation as I was rushing.

As far as my research tells, usually panels you cant choose. Inverter you can ‘upgrade’ or choose other brands for an extra cost.

By the way, anyone has any feedback if say for panels from same brand ie Trina, some vendors use different power panels..ie 580w vs 590w vs 600w
Does it matter? I mean I understand it affects your total system power but would higher power panels comes with stronger materials(?) or whatever additional materials.

For panels, Trina is one of the good ones right now. The wattage is the rating of max output it can produce. Usually the calculation of panels wattage will lead to your kwp and finally to your yield projection. If you ask me the difference between 590w vs 600w, it may not be very big difference. But accumulativelu, it can be a lot especially on bigger size projects.

https://services.seda.gov.my/nem/quota/dashboard

NEM rakyat quota 30% left… we are only in half of the year.. Solaris working its magic. I’m chilling because NEM agreement signed and allocated for me.

You guys better hurry up if you want to install this year.

From what I can see, there is no upfront payment. That itself is a 'saving' compared to buying the whole system upfront. I understand that they charge according to how much their system managed to offset from the bill (I could be wrong on this as I didn't call them up to get the details). The real saving is after the contract period. They have a minimum contract period of 5 years which is reasonable owing to the systems nowadays can last for much longer. After the contract period, it's like getting the system for free.

In a gist, its like:-
1. no upfront payment
2. getting the system for free (after contract period)
3. worry free during contract period
4. going green helps the environment

Its all about reaping the benefits after the contract period. (this is the only downside which I can see). Any thoughts or comments?

Not worth it for a consumer. Many solar vendors out there offer EPP credit card payments at 0% (some with surcharge) upto 60 months which is 5 years. if you calculate the entire cost/sum paid, it is much more expensive for such rental/instalment plan. Because at the end of the day, somebody is financing the capex, and there is no free lunch in the world.

And depending on the vendor, the warranty period varies. In any case most all inverters and panels are warrantied for >5 years.

By the end of the contract period, you will be out of NEM.

Usually if a person with 250 ringgit bill invest 20k in solar, they will get back about 20k worth of solar product and 15k additional saving. So roughly 35k in 10 years. (Don’t mind the depreciation )

But for the same person who goes for solar worth the package you mentioned, you will still have to pay Tnb and solar company about 220 a month. And your actual saving could be rm30. So if you do it for 10 years, you will fork out 26k.

This is just very rough sketch but in short, this is the theory behind why it’s not so worth it.

And Thai is a very small system. They don’t do small system for this kind of program if not mistaken.

Just my opinion, as there is other options so it is better to put them side by side for comparison and then decide which one is more suitable. Different people may have different preference. Base on the advantages you listed, let's compare them side by side
1. upfront payment
Rental: No upfront payment
Buy Over: Upfront payment or EPP with credit card up to 5 years
2. System ownership
Rental: getting the system for free after contract (But this system not able to sell back to TnB and not support battery operation, all in all may need to upgrade or change to newer inverter with battery)
Ownership: system is yours but NEM finished in 10 years
3. warranty
Rental: worry free during contract period
Ownership: Maintenance by owner but how often need maintenance, standard warranty to cover normal functionality of panel and inverter for at least 10 years
4. Green
Rental and ownership both is green.
5. Return
Rental: Some savings in electricity bills immediately, since there is no cost, but return maybe much lower in 10 years contract period
Ownership: ROI starts after 5 or 6 years, depends on capacity and return is much higher compare to rental over 10 years contract period.

So all in all, it all boils down to item 1 and 5. How willing for you to put up a certain amount of money upfront or in advance for EPP years. And with that how much return you can enjoy down the 10 years contract period

Thanks for the reply guys. With EPP coming into play (and stretching to 60 months), it's definitely worth looking into buying the system outright. How much of a price difference between one vendor to another? Is the main difference just due to the capacity of the electricity generation?

Oh based on my experience, the price can difference up to 20%. Capacity definitely is the main factor that determine the price. Inverter technology (hybrid, string, microinverter) is also affecting the price but maybe now to a lesser extend.
But I think the best is to get at least 3 or 4 companies to quote you. This is a free service so don't be ashamed to request for free site visit, explanation and quotation. No need to rush to sign up. Just communicate with the agent and then decide based on price and your preference after meeting up with the agent.

Just information sharing, I didn't go for the cheapest quotation either, instead I went with the one with a higher price but is more sincere in selling his service and answer to all my queries....

Based on this, only take 3 years to break even.

TNB did a cut off, once NEM is successfully registered and for my May bill from 22 to 31st is only RM 0.90.

Your is a 7kw system?

4kw only

How much did your system cost per kWp? 3 years is amazing.

mine was installed last week.

7.26kw
trina panels (605W N Type) x 12
hoymiles hms 2000 micro inverter x 3

1. Workmanship Warranty (Additional 4 year Promo Package)
Tenure 12 + 48 months (starting from the date of testing & commissioning)
Coverage Repair, rectify and/or making good of the defects or imperfections and water
leakages within solar panels coverage area.
Charges None

2. Free 3 Years Operations & Maintenance (Additional 2 years Promo Package)
Tenure 3 + 2 years (starting from the date of testing & commissioning)
Coverage a. Solar PV plant helpline
b. Daily solar PV plant remote monitoring
c. Annual Service (Scheduled Maintenance – once a year)
• Solar panel inspection (if necessary)
• DC cable inspection (if necessary)
• Inverter inspection (if necessary)
• AC combiner box inspection
• On-call service (non-scheduled maintenance & free of charge) until the issue is rectified

Total: 24k (30% - cash; 70% - 24 months epp)

Now waiting for TNB welcome letter before switching system on.

This post has been edited by jason1986: Jun 30 2024, 06:46 PM

Net 10k after NEM rebate.

By the way, your 4kw system is very amazing, the generation is very high.

Just rough calculation though, for a 10k investment if to break even 3 years. You will need a rebate of RM277 per month, your usage will be of 680kwh per month at least or higher.

May I know with whom?

We are getting like 4 to 5 hrs of sunshine on average.

Estimation is to cover rm200 per month.

Now waiting for the 5th Jul tnb bill to see how much extra is generated. Wanna see if is match to what the app shows.