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post Apr 25 2024, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(ye0073 @ Apr 25 2024, 01:13 PM)
Can transfer for 1 time option.
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I see. Thank for the clarification.
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post Apr 25 2024, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Apr 25 2024, 01:23 PM)
By your logic, what's the point of account 2 if it has same dividend as account 1? Just make it 30% of account 1 allowed to be withdraw for certain conditions.
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Different functionality

Because account 1 money cannot be withdraw unless very specific circumstances (death, retirement, etc)

Account 2 was made so we could withdraw the money for certain purpose. Since account 2 was for the purpose of withdrawing money, let people withdraw from account 2 lor.

Why need account 3?
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post Apr 25 2024, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(ye0073 @ Apr 25 2024, 01:04 PM)
For those who wants to opt out, can withdraw the money from account 3, and put it back thru self-contribution and enjoy tax relief of 7K.

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Abang tax relief and life insurance long ago separate dah. For those contribution more that 4k max relief have no reason to self contribute
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post Apr 25 2024, 01:29 PM

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For those who opt to transfer certain portion from acc 2 to acc3, what is the cutoff period they referring to? Is it based on May balance? Since we have time until Aug to decide can I do it on Aug and will they use Aug balance instead since will be higher?
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QUOTE(nelson969 @ Apr 25 2024, 01:01 PM)
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Keyword - "might". No official word on this, right?
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QUOTE(askingquestion @ Apr 25 2024, 01:27 PM)
Different functionality

Because account 1 money cannot be withdraw unless very specific circumstances (death, retirement, etc)

Account 2 was made so we could withdraw the money for certain purpose. Since account 2 was for the purpose of withdrawing money, let people withdraw from account 2 lor.

Why need account 3?
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You already answered yourself. Topkek.

They already renamed them to Account Retirement, Account Sejahtera, Account Flexible. Which is quite clear.

Wait, you know that Acc 3 can be withdraw for whatever reason. Right?

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post Apr 25 2024, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Apr 25 2024, 01:30 PM)
Keyword - "might". No official word on this, right?
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>No impact on the EPF’s portfolio, dividend for Account 3 could differ in future
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post Apr 25 2024, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(GambitFire @ Apr 25 2024, 01:29 PM)
For those who opt to transfer certain portion from acc 2 to acc3, what is the cutoff period they referring to? Is it based on May balance? Since we have time until Aug to decide can I do it on Aug and will they use Aug balance instead since will be higher?
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Do it on Aug for higher balance.
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post Apr 25 2024, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(askingquestion @ Apr 25 2024, 01:27 PM)
Different functionality

Because account 1 money cannot be withdraw unless very specific circumstances (death, retirement, etc)

Account 2 was made so we could withdraw the money for certain purpose. Since account 2 was for the purpose of withdrawing money, let people withdraw from account 2 lor.

Why need account 3?
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A1 - withdraw due to explicit circumstances.
A2 - withdraw due to specific need, requires approval.
A3 - withdraw minimum RM50 anytime. no need someone to approve.
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post Apr 25 2024, 01:40 PM

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Gomen said no to withdrawals earlier but actually allowing more to be withdrawn. Past ones max 60k iinm.

Now if you have 300k in your account 2,.you can withdraw 100k to spend on anything you like.

Kekwa. Then 2025 can claim economic growth under mafani, funded by people's retirement money.
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post Apr 25 2024, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(GambitFire @ Apr 25 2024, 01:29 PM)
For those who opt to transfer certain portion from acc 2 to acc3, what is the cutoff period they referring to? Is it based on May balance? Since we have time until Aug to decide can I do it on Aug and will they use Aug balance instead since will be higher?
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For you (in bold)

If the member chooses to opt-in for an initial amount,the transfer of the initial amount to Akaun Fleksibel and other accounts (if applicable) is based on the balance in the member’s Akaun Sejahtera on the date the opt-in application is made," it said.

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QUOTE(askingquestion @ Apr 25 2024, 01:27 PM)
Different functionality

Because account 1 money cannot be withdraw unless very specific circumstances (death, retirement, etc)

Account 2 was made so we could withdraw the money for certain purpose. Since account 2 was for the purpose of withdrawing money, let people withdraw from account 2 lor.

Why need account 3?
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If you look more closely, account 3 IS necessary. Think of this way... if you can withdraw anytime.... people will start withdrawing like crazy and then account 2 would be empty in no time. You can try to put a condition that you must have a minimum amount inside, but what IS the minimum? RM 10? 100? 1000?

By creating account 3, basically you can withdraw all without any conditions.

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QUOTE(ye0073 @ Apr 25 2024, 01:13 PM)
Can transfer for 1 time option.
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post Apr 25 2024, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(ye0073 @ Apr 25 2024, 01:20 PM)
You do or not account 3 is fixed. 10% of the contribution will goes to account 3.

The account 2 transfer to account 3 is once a lifetime between 11 May 2024 and 31 August 2024.
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10% is auto and cannot be ammend? I mean if I dowan to or I want only 5% . Something like that.
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QUOTE(Koranshita @ Apr 25 2024, 01:49 PM)
10% is auto and cannot be ammend? I mean if I dowan to or I want only 5% . Something like that.
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Too bad at this moment it does not provide this option. The only way to do is withdraw money from account 3 and transfer back as self-contribution.
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QUOTE(ye0073 @ Apr 25 2024, 01:04 PM)
For those who wants to opt out, can withdraw the money from account 3, and put it back thru self-contribution and enjoy tax relief of 7K.

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If your salary is 3k, you would already max out the 4k EPF relief, no need to withdraw anymore.
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10/30 baki dipindahkan ke akaun fleksibel
5/30 baki dipindahkan ke akaun persaraan
15/30 kekal dalam akaun sejahtera.

I wonder whether this is fixed or the maximum. For example, can I transfer 9/30 to akaun fleksibel, 4/30 to akaun persaraan dan retain the rest in akaun sejahtera?
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QUOTE(hafiziza @ Apr 25 2024, 01:58 PM)
10/30 baki dipindahkan ke akaun fleksibel
5/30 baki dipindahkan ke akaun persaraan
15/30 kekal dalam akaun sejahtera.

I wonder whether this is fixed or the maximum. For example, can I transfer 9/30 to akaun fleksibel, 4/30 to akaun persaraan dan retain the rest in akaun sejahtera?
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This is fixed.

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