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News EPF Account 3 to go live on May 11

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post Apr 25 2024, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Apr 25 2024, 12:34 PM)
Use your logic, what will cause them to declare less dividend?

The Account 3 cannot be gamed. We can’t just pump in money for short term, and then withdraw. Cause, the apportionment is fixed at 75:15:10.

Given that, I find it hard to understand why people expect lower dividend for Account 3.

If anything, if EPF loses 5% of annual dividend declared each year (half of the 10% from Account 3), it would be a lower base and hence higher dividend the following year for those who did not withdraw. This is as long as the withdrawals do not cause liquidity issues, which I don’t think they will given EPF’s asset allocation to cash/money market which is sufficient to absorb this.

Also don't forget, Account 1 allocation has increased from 70% to 75%. This money remains locked till retirement.
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Basically, giving you the carrot.... but also holding the stick.
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post Apr 25 2024, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Apr 25 2024, 12:37 PM)
How to opt out for account 3 from May 2024 distribution onwards all together?

Is there an opt out option?
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I think not. Basically all contributors below 55 are "assigned" 3 accounts from May onwards. Only difference is that you can withdraw 10%, but as a "penalty" a 5% .... "retainer fee" goes to Akaun 1 - which you can only withdraw after 55.
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post Apr 25 2024, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(nelson969 @ Apr 25 2024, 01:01 PM)
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Keyword - "might". No official word on this, right?
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post Apr 25 2024, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(askingquestion @ Apr 25 2024, 01:27 PM)
Different functionality

Because account 1 money cannot be withdraw unless very specific circumstances (death, retirement, etc)

Account 2 was made so we could withdraw the money for certain purpose. Since account 2 was for the purpose of withdrawing money, let people withdraw from account 2 lor.

Why need account 3?
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If you look more closely, account 3 IS necessary. Think of this way... if you can withdraw anytime.... people will start withdrawing like crazy and then account 2 would be empty in no time. You can try to put a condition that you must have a minimum amount inside, but what IS the minimum? RM 10? 100? 1000?

By creating account 3, basically you can withdraw all without any conditions.

This post has been edited by ZeroSOFInfinity: Apr 25 2024, 01:45 PM

 

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