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post Apr 25 2024, 02:03 PM

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this is what the best finance minister can do?
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post Apr 25 2024, 02:05 PM

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post Apr 25 2024, 02:06 PM

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My concern is dividend how? All 3 accounts same?
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post Apr 25 2024, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Apr 25 2024, 01:09 PM)
any official source for this?
kekwa, ini speculation
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I saw in fb someone attended the briefing with EPF, got ppl asking the rate she said all 3 acc same rate
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post Apr 25 2024, 02:07 PM

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Dividend most important, no fuxking way mandatory contribution with zero dividend, every time withdraw and put into what ?
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post Apr 25 2024, 02:07 PM

 
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QUOTE(Duckies @ Apr 25 2024, 02:06 PM)
My concern is dividend how? All 3 accounts same?
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Same same but different.
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post Apr 25 2024, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Apr 25 2024, 01:30 PM)
You already answered yourself. Topkek.

They already renamed them to Account Retirement, Account Sejahtera, Account Flexible. Which is quite clear.

Wait, you know that Acc 3 can be withdraw for whatever reason. Right?
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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Apr 25 2024, 01:35 PM)
A1 - withdraw due to explicit circumstances.
A2 - withdraw due to specific need, requires approval.
A3 - withdraw minimum RM50 anytime. no need someone to approve.
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Apr 25 2024, 01:43 PM)
If you look more closely, account 3 IS necessary. Think of this way... if you can withdraw anytime.... people will start withdrawing like crazy and then account 2 would be empty in no time. You can try to put a condition that you must have a minimum amount inside, but what IS the minimum? RM 10? 100? 1000?

By creating account 3, basically you can withdraw all without any conditions.
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Just change account 2 to have a maximum % you can withdraw.

Just the fact that there is account 3, and that account 3 is mandatory (why, in fact EPF should love it if more people opt out of account 3 and put in account 1/2 if same dividend), tell me account 3 dividend is going to be less.

I like to be proven wrong, but I don't think I am going to be.

This post has been edited by askingquestion: Apr 25 2024, 02:09 PM
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post Apr 25 2024, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(askingquestion @ Apr 25 2024, 01:27 PM)
Different functionality

Because account 1 money cannot be withdraw unless very specific circumstances (death, retirement, etc)

Account 2 was made so we could withdraw the money for certain purpose. Since account 2 was for the purpose of withdrawing money, let people withdraw from account 2 lor.

Why need account 3?
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my takeaway from this is be prepared for another round of inflation. what do the government expect if they put more money into the people's pockets?
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post Apr 25 2024, 02:11 PM

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Should be incentivised if account 3 > certain amount or within certain percentage of total of account 1 and 2, recover full dividend rate
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post Apr 25 2024, 02:17 PM

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For self contribution, it would be better if EPF let people choose which acct they can choose to self contrubute

Example if I want to save money in EPF but choose Acct 3 to save

If EPF let people do this, I will dump all my KDI saving, Touch N Go money to EPF

No need to put in other platforms


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post Apr 25 2024, 02:21 PM

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post Apr 25 2024, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(creep @ Apr 25 2024, 02:06 PM)
I saw in fb someone attended the briefing with EPF, got ppl asking the rate she said all 3 acc same rate
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Yes. News also report current it is same. But future might change. The art of word.

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post Apr 25 2024, 02:32 PM

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post Apr 25 2024, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(askingquestion @ Apr 25 2024, 01:17 PM)
IMO, if account 3 same dividend as account 1 and 2, what is the point of account 3 then?

Just make it easier to withdraw from account 2 then (like you can withdraw x% from account 2 once a year etc)
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To cater for emergency withdrawal, the floodgate has been open since MCO time, by doing this government increase account 1 to 75% in return.

For me if there is any emergency scenario, i can withdraw this money without go and loan from bank.

QUOTE(Boy96 @ Apr 25 2024, 01:19 PM)
Ok time to withdraw and but in AHB or Tabung Haji.. higher dividen without need for zakat deduction
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ASB and Tabung Haji return how many %?

Why not switch to EPF syariah account?

QUOTE(creep @ Apr 25 2024, 02:06 PM)
I saw in fb someone attended the briefing with EPF, got ppl asking the rate she said all 3 acc same rate
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post Apr 25 2024, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Apr 25 2024, 02:36 PM)


ASB and Tabung Haji return how many %?

Why not switch to EPF syariah account?
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AHB not ASB.. AHB is 2.5% every 6 Month.. so 5% a year. Tabung Haji is 3.1% annually.

EPF syariah havent potong 2.5% zakat yet off whatever dividens you are getting
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post Apr 25 2024, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Apr 25 2024, 02:46 PM)
AHB not ASB.. AHB is 2.5% every 6 Month.. so 5% a year. Tabung Haji is 3.1% annually.

EPF syariah havent potong 2.5% zakat yet off whatever dividens you are getting
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oh amanah hartanah bumiputra

let say EPF dividend is 6%, after zakat should be effectively 5.85%?

This post has been edited by yhtan: Apr 25 2024, 02:49 PM
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post Apr 25 2024, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Apr 25 2024, 02:48 PM)
oh amanah hartanah bumiputra

let say EPF dividend is 6%, after zakat should be effectively 5.85%?
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If u have 100000 in your account, then dividen 6%.. become 106000

106000 - 2.5% = 103,350

So effective 3.35% saja... It deduct 2.5% of the whole balance every year

This post has been edited by Boy96: Apr 25 2024, 02:53 PM
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post Apr 25 2024, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(doremon @ Apr 25 2024, 12:32 PM)
Kalau takut, keluarkan duit from acc 3 cepat2 self contribute dalam kwsp balik. Pusing2 sampai acc 3 RM0
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post Apr 25 2024, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(xpole @ Apr 25 2024, 03:17 PM)
For self contribution, it would be better if EPF let people choose which acct they can choose to self contrubute

Example if I want to save money in EPF but choose Acct 3 to save

If EPF let people do this, I will dump all my KDI saving, Touch N Go money to EPF

No need to put in other platforms
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You want it to be like bank savings account lah but remember how much is bank savings account interest?


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post Apr 25 2024, 03:03 PM

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