this is what the best finance minister can do?
News EPF Account 3 to go live on May 11
News EPF Account 3 to go live on May 11
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Apr 25 2024, 02:03 PM
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this is what the best finance minister can do?
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Apr 25 2024, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(Atrocious @ Apr 25 2024, 01:54 PM) not to mention people will eat more wagyu steak Atrocious liked this post
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Apr 25 2024, 02:06 PM
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My concern is dividend how? All 3 accounts same?
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Apr 25 2024, 02:06 PM
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Apr 25 2024, 02:07 PM
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Dividend most important, no fuxking way mandatory contribution with zero dividend, every time withdraw and put into what ?
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Apr 25 2024, 02:07 PM
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Apr 25 2024, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Apr 25 2024, 01:30 PM) You already answered yourself. Topkek. They already renamed them to Account Retirement, Account Sejahtera, Account Flexible. Which is quite clear. Wait, you know that Acc 3 can be withdraw for whatever reason. Right? QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Apr 25 2024, 01:35 PM) A1 - withdraw due to explicit circumstances. A2 - withdraw due to specific need, requires approval. A3 - withdraw minimum RM50 anytime. no need someone to approve. QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Apr 25 2024, 01:43 PM) If you look more closely, account 3 IS necessary. Think of this way... if you can withdraw anytime.... people will start withdrawing like crazy and then account 2 would be empty in no time. You can try to put a condition that you must have a minimum amount inside, but what IS the minimum? RM 10? 100? 1000? Just change account 2 to have a maximum % you can withdraw.By creating account 3, basically you can withdraw all without any conditions. Just the fact that there is account 3, and that account 3 is mandatory (why, in fact EPF should love it if more people opt out of account 3 and put in account 1/2 if same dividend), tell me account 3 dividend is going to be less. I like to be proven wrong, but I don't think I am going to be. This post has been edited by askingquestion: Apr 25 2024, 02:09 PM |
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Apr 25 2024, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(askingquestion @ Apr 25 2024, 01:27 PM) Different functionality sebab ekonomi tak jalan.Because account 1 money cannot be withdraw unless very specific circumstances (death, retirement, etc) Account 2 was made so we could withdraw the money for certain purpose. Since account 2 was for the purpose of withdrawing money, let people withdraw from account 2 lor. Why need account 3? my takeaway from this is be prepared for another round of inflation. what do the government expect if they put more money into the people's pockets? |
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Apr 25 2024, 02:11 PM
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Should be incentivised if account 3 > certain amount or within certain percentage of total of account 1 and 2, recover full dividend rate
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Apr 25 2024, 02:17 PM
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For self contribution, it would be better if EPF let people choose which acct they can choose to self contrubute
Example if I want to save money in EPF but choose Acct 3 to save If EPF let people do this, I will dump all my KDI saving, Touch N Go money to EPF No need to put in other platforms |
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Apr 25 2024, 02:21 PM
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Apr 25 2024, 02:30 PM
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Apr 25 2024, 02:32 PM
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Apr 25 2024, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(askingquestion @ Apr 25 2024, 01:17 PM) IMO, if account 3 same dividend as account 1 and 2, what is the point of account 3 then? To cater for emergency withdrawal, the floodgate has been open since MCO time, by doing this government increase account 1 to 75% in return.Just make it easier to withdraw from account 2 then (like you can withdraw x% from account 2 once a year etc) For me if there is any emergency scenario, i can withdraw this money without go and loan from bank. QUOTE(Boy96 @ Apr 25 2024, 01:19 PM) ASB and Tabung Haji return how many %?Why not switch to EPF syariah account? QUOTE(creep @ Apr 25 2024, 02:06 PM) I saw in fb someone attended the briefing with EPF, got ppl asking the rate she said all 3 acc same rate |
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Apr 25 2024, 02:46 PM
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Apr 25 2024, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Apr 25 2024, 02:46 PM) AHB not ASB.. AHB is 2.5% every 6 Month.. so 5% a year. Tabung Haji is 3.1% annually. oh amanah hartanah bumiputraEPF syariah havent potong 2.5% zakat yet off whatever dividens you are getting let say EPF dividend is 6%, after zakat should be effectively 5.85%? This post has been edited by yhtan: Apr 25 2024, 02:49 PM |
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Apr 25 2024, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Apr 25 2024, 02:48 PM) If u have 100000 in your account, then dividen 6%.. become 106000106000 - 2.5% = 103,350 So effective 3.35% saja... It deduct 2.5% of the whole balance every year This post has been edited by Boy96: Apr 25 2024, 02:53 PM |
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Apr 25 2024, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE(xpole @ Apr 25 2024, 03:17 PM) For self contribution, it would be better if EPF let people choose which acct they can choose to self contrubute You want it to be like bank savings account lah but remember how much is bank savings account interest?Example if I want to save money in EPF but choose Acct 3 to save If EPF let people do this, I will dump all my KDI saving, Touch N Go money to EPF No need to put in other platforms |
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Apr 25 2024, 03:03 PM
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