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News EPF Account 3 to go live on May 11

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post Apr 25 2024, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(spacelion @ Apr 25 2024, 02:46 PM)
There should be a one button press to change distribution to 85%-15%-0%

But I guess they want us to withdraw deposit as it will increase their kpi
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post Apr 25 2024, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Apr 25 2024, 03:49 PM)
May 12 - August 31....This period you didnt do anything.....by Sept 1
Your Account 3 will remain zero forever.....EPF will remain old split at 70% account 1, 30% account 2.
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Spacelion is probably talking about future contribution. He doesn't want to contribute to account 3.
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post Apr 25 2024, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Apr 25 2024, 03:42 PM)
Starting May 12 - August 31.
You can choose OPT in or no OPT in.

NO OPT IN, means remain same......Account 1 & 2 ...Account 3 will remain zero forever.  EPF money will remain 70% account 1 , 30% account 2.

If you choose OPT In....account 3 automatic take 1/3 amount of your money from Account 2.
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This is wrong info.
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post Apr 25 2024, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(N9484640 @ Apr 25 2024, 03:33 PM)
Withdrawal - online can do
To transfer from acct 3 to acct 1 or 2 - must goto kwsp fill form 🤦🏻‍♂️
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🤦🤦Tak pasal pasal buat menyusahkan je.
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post Apr 25 2024, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Apr 25 2024, 03:49 PM)
May 12 - August 31....This period you didnt do anything.....by Sept 1
Your Account 3 will remain zero forever.....EPF will remain old split at 70% account 1, 30% account 2.
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No la, if you don’t opt in for the initial transfer from acct 2 to acct 3, then acct 3 will just start from zero. 10% of contribution will still end up in acct 3
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post Apr 25 2024, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Apr 25 2024, 03:19 PM)
I think if you have 300k or more in ACC2, you probably don't need the 100k in ACC3. You either already did pretty good for yourself to have additional savings and liquidity somewhere else or are already close to retirement.
To me ACC3 is pretty much useless unless maybe a quick way to get funds lets say for a medical emergency. But we all know what people will spend ACC3 monies on.
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Not really true also. Things are so crazy expensive now.
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post Apr 25 2024, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Apr 25 2024, 03:42 PM)
Starting May 12 - August 31.
You can choose OPT in or no OPT in.

NO OPT IN, means remain same......Account 1 & 2 ...Account 3 will remain zero forever.  EPF money will remain 70% account 1 , 30% account 2.

If you choose OPT In....account 3 automatic take 1/3 amount of your money from Account 2.
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Starting May 12 - August 31 >> This opt in is only for the transfer of one time initial fund from current acc2. If you opt out (do nothing) means your Acc 3 start from 0, only building up fr May24 distributions onwards

The new distribution of 75/15/10 from May-24 onwards is auto for all across.



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post Apr 25 2024, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(nelson969 @ Apr 25 2024, 01:18 PM)
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TLDR so far i read

>account 3 start with 0
> during May 11 2024 and August 31 2024, member can transfer money from account 2 to account 3 , if they decide no transfer ,at 1 Sep 2024, your account 3 is starting with 0
>75:15:10 contribution, do your calculation
>No impact on the EPF’s portfolio, dividend for Account 3 could differ in future
>Withdrawal amount of RM50 from account 3
>>only age 55 below, after 55 age above, account 3 and account 2 will go into account 1
my opinion

neh, make sure at 60 years old u get 800k 900k 1m in KWSP and leech of the dividend, it is susceptible all of us will live thru pass 60 until 100 or 90

not a good move, this is probably respond to ppl who withdraw money during covid-19

they doing this just to make sure ppl work until 100, no retirement like sg, hk , japan , korea , china , American

i am expecting them to push the retirement age from 60 to 70 or 63

source : https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...rst-year/130739
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we're the cheese leleh generation. not gonna reach 90 or 100. 60 may be hard for some.
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post Apr 25 2024, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(Sihambodoh @ Apr 25 2024, 03:45 PM)
People with 1m will still withdraw. Let's say if you have 1010k in EPF. You can only withdrawax 10k. Unless you want to buy house or other reasons, you can't touch your 303k in account 2.

Now with this account 3, I can withdraw 101k from my account 2 and put as down-payment to buy a BMW. I get to piap more girls, BMW salesmen happy, gomen happy.
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Apr 25 2024, 03:38 PM)
33% to acc3
17% to acc1

I will withdraw 80k for my alphard downpayment
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Told ya, although I am not sure if he has 1m
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post Apr 25 2024, 04:30 PM

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https://www.kwsp.gov.my/en/account-restructuring
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post Apr 25 2024, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(jmas @ Apr 25 2024, 03:47 PM)
maxed the 4k compulsory, still got 3k voluntary right? (unless life insurance already maxed as well)
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People like me maxed that shit every year. No way waste money self contribute
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post Apr 25 2024, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(Sihambodoh @ Apr 25 2024, 04:20 PM)
Told ya, although I am not sure if he has 1m
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Not yet reach 1m but achievable by end of next year
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post Apr 25 2024, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Apr 25 2024, 03:21 PM)
Zakat has always been based on principal, not on the returns.

But for epf theres an exemption where u only start paying zakat every year once you reach 55 age
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Then your zakat based on gross salary and net salary? if net salary then your calculation is correct
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post Apr 25 2024, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Apr 25 2024, 04:47 PM)
People like me maxed that shit every year. No way waste money self contribute
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I dont hv life insurance yet, so still can voluntary
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post Apr 25 2024, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Apr 25 2024, 05:07 PM)
Then your zakat based on gross salary and net salary? if net salary then your calculation is correct
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Its not based on your salary but rather your total wealth at the end of each year minus 2.5%. if all your investments and bank accounts accumulate to have over rm21k (minus AHB and tabung haji) you have to start paying already

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post Apr 26 2024, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(askingquestion @ Apr 25 2024, 01:17 PM)
IMO, if account 3 same dividend as account 1 and 2, what is the point of account 3 then?

Just make it easier to withdraw from account 2 then (like you can withdraw x% from account 2 once a year etc)
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x% they make and name it account 3 laugh.gif
if they make it x% from account 2, people confuse sweat.gif
and not easy to maintain, how long the x% in account 2 reset for next withdrawal etc

for example if 50% from account 2 is withdrawable, once got ppl withdraw 50%, what next? coming month salary in, what is the amount of 50% can withdraw?
the logic and algorithm not to say cannot achieve, and eventually system can calculate, ppl will be confuse

just like WHY account 1 and 2 if 30% can use for house laugh.gif why why why...
separating to account 3 is best for manage and easily straightforward how much one can withdraw
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post Apr 26 2024, 08:57 AM

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So many ppl opt out because making assumption Acc 3 will be less interest? 😅
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post Apr 26 2024, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(eugenecctan @ Apr 26 2024, 08:57 AM)
So many ppl opt out because making assumption Acc 3 will be less interest? 😅
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What do u mean by opt out?

Acct 3 will be compulsory to all epf holders

The only thing that u can do is by transferring the fund from Acc 3 to Acc 1/2 manually at epf counter
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post Apr 26 2024, 09:29 AM

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someone really need to explain this to me.
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so means let's say i have 10k in 2nd account, how much really can i draw to my upcoming 3rd account?
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post Apr 26 2024, 09:32 AM

 
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QUOTE(budaken @ Apr 26 2024, 09:29 AM)
someone really need to explain this to me.
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so means let's say i have 10k in 2nd account, how much really can i draw to my upcoming 3rd account?
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Account 2 = Akaun Sejahtera
Account 3 = Akaun Fleksibel

So 10k x 10/30 = 3.33k you can withdraw.

This post has been edited by poweredbydiscuz: Apr 26 2024, 09:33 AM

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